Subject: She spilling jewels and collarbones...
Subject: hnia live - any good?
Subject: RHP seattle
Subject: Re: quis is making me queazy
Subject: RHP cancelled Manchester show
Subject: Re: Availability of RHP's 'Shock Me' single?
Subject: RHP cancelled Manchester show
Subject: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: Re: Review: The Paradise Motel
Subject: Re: Acquiring E.S.P./atlanta record shops
Subject: E-Mail Address for HNIA?
Subject: Re: rhp or muses in LA?
Subject: RHP in berkeley
Subject: Re: E-Mail Address for HNIA?
Subject: 4ad mail order
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: Re: Availability of RHP's 'Shock Me' single?
Subject: Re: hnia live - any good?
Subject: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: 4AD-L to split
Subject: Why Alanis would sound better on 4AD than Blues Traveler
Subject: Re: Paladins
Subject: CT-esque Japanese music....
Subject: Re: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: 4ad mail order
Subject: Re: CT-esque Japanese music....
Subject: Re: RHP cancelled Manchester show
Subject: Re: cancelled Manchester show and the like
Subject: Re: 4ad mail order
Subject: Lisa Germano summary
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:43:54 -0700
Regarding the limited "This Rimy River", Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
> What happened to the "silver foil blocked design", supposed to be on
> the blue suede of the slip case??
Ironically enough Frank, I ordered another copy of the Heidi Berry album
on vinyl and it came with a silver foil blocked design on blue suede.
This copy didn't have an inner sleeve like the first copy I ordered
though. Perhaps 4AD can send me an inner jacket??
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:04:38 -0600
i'm debating whether or not to go to the show tomorrow night here in
austin. how much old stuff and how much new stuff do they play? will the
experience be a valuable one? am i asking too many questions? basically,
will it be worth my money? thanks. :)
.j.
having a bout of horrendous indecision
---
[email protected] http://piglet.cc.utexas.edu/~joanna
noiserotica.thursday.mornings.3am.5am.kvrx.91.7.austin
"I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone.
I'm just here for the drugs."
-Nancy Reagan (when asked a political question at a "Just Say No" rally)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:15:33 -0700
Just a quick note about last Saturday's show. Some dude on acoustic
guitar opened, then Clodhopper (?) with a guy from American Music Club,
and Red House Painters. RHP played for... oh, about 2 1/2 hours, if I
remember correctly. All sorts of fun stuff... it was great. Especially
1) the super kick ass version of Lord Kill the Pain 2) leaving on a jet
plane (a "John Denver" song) and 3) the final Michael/Summer Dress when
Mark kicked aside the mic and had the audience finish singing the song.
Somewhat stop-and-go (especially when an amp blew), but overall one of the
best shows I've ever seen. Innnncredible.
Mike
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:57:44 +0000
At 02:07 PM 26/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>
>> ~ quis
>>
>
>ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
>someone please explain to me how to create a kill file for mailtool.
>i'm serious, i can't take it anymore.
>
oh....WHAAAAAAA!!
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:00:42 +0100
For anyone who's interested, I've just found out that the Red House
Painters gig in Manchester on Sept 11th has been cancelled.
This is just typical - the 3 gigs I've wanted to see this year in
Manchester (Mark Eitzel, Mazzy Star, RHP) have all been cancelled.
What is going on? It's a bloody conspiracy!
Simon
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:57:41 +0000
At 03:04 AM 27/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>G'day,
>
> I'm after a copy of RHP's 'Shock Me' CD single. I notice that it is
>available via a few US import stores. Are they just importing via the
>UK? If so, do any list members in the UK know whether this single is
>still generally available? It may be easier for me to order this from
>England rather than from the US.
>
>Underworld's 'Spikee/Dogman Go Woof' single is still available in the UK,
>that would be great.
>
>Thanks, Geoff
>
I just happen to have a spare copy of this if you're interested.....
~ quis
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:12:00 GMT
Simon,
if you remember they were scheduled to play the Academy about 18
months to 2 years ago and that gig was also cancelled. I've only seen
them twice before, once at the 13 year itch bash (bloody awful set),
and, then at Manchester Uni which was OUTSTANDING!!!!! The rapport
with the crowd was fantastic.
The cancellation has just poured more fuel on a bad year for me too -
Scheer didn't turn up at Man Uni, then I made the journey down to
London for the aborted DCD gig!!
The thing that pisses me off the most is (and I know that RHP aren't
on 4AD anymore!!) the London-centric approach to gigging that 4AD
bands seems to have. I wouldn't have seen Tarnation or Mojave 3 at all
if I hadn't been lucky enough to be attending a seminar in 'The Smoke'
earlier this year!!!! It only seems to be the 'less well known'
(outside this list) artists that stay in London!
4AD should learn - if it wants to promote less well known artists, get
them on the road and meet the fans! What's wrong with the North? At
least you get a good reception and good beer up here! (I mean to say,
if Kristen Hersh plays the Parr Hall Warrington then the North must be
groovy and hip :) !!!!!!).
Saying all this, I am making a special journey down to London to see
Tortoise!!! (But they did have the courtesy to support Stereolab at
Man Uni).
What's the situation like for 4AD gigs in Europe??? Is it worse
still?? The attitude to gigging in the USA seems much more healthy
than over here, where in general it's SHIT!!
Lets hope the Muses don't cancel!!!!
Paul Walsh
[email protected]
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Date: 28/08/96 12:24
For anyone who's interested, I've just found out that the Red House
Painters gig in Manchester on Sept 11th has been cancelled.
This is just typical - the 3 gigs I've wanted to see this year in
Manchester (Mark Eitzel, Mazzy Star, RHP) have all been cancelled.
What is going on? It's a bloody conspiracy!
Simon
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:11:30 +0000
> Lets hope the Muses don't cancel!!!!
>
Please no!!!
It is getting terrible in Manchester now. Not only cancelled gigs,
but hardly anyone I want to see seems to play here anymore. I seem to
live on local bands waiting for some worthwhile name band to come.
Whats wrong with Manchester, are they all put of by its 'club
culture' identity? The worse thing is after years of avoiding me I am
being forced to go to London to see Nomeasno this saturday (non
listy I am sure) just coz I am fed up of not seeign them. Its just
seems that promoters/bands don't want to ply here anymore - why?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:02:25 -0400
oz. price" at Aug 27, 96 11:04:38 pm
> i'm debating whether or not to go to the show tomorrow night here in
> austin. how much old stuff and how much new stuff do they play? will the
> experience be a valuable one? am i asking too many questions? basically,
> will it be worth my money? thanks. :)
> .j.
> having a bout of horrendous indecision
Well, I caught the show last night and am glad I went. Besides having the
great pleasure of meeting others from the list (Hi!), I rather enjoyed the
show. The opening band (though probably not playing with HNIA at other
places) was surprisingly decent, too. HNIA played a lot from the new
album, but definitely did some older stuff - the last song was If July (I
think that's what it's called) from Livonia, stripped down to just voice
and guitar. And not surprisingly, little if anything from Mouth By Mouth.
And there was a whale and a menagerie of wild animals! You've got to see
that, if not nothing else...
-greg
who says just go
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:21:42 -0400
Dear gods, and I thought Projekt were over-the-top in their descriptions of
artists on their label... With all the hyperbole, it can't be anything BUT
disappointing! But I s'pose I'll check it out anyway.
Is it available via import? By that, I mean has anyone seen it from
SirenDisc or Parasol or some other mail-order outfit?
Mike
[email protected]
At 11:52 AM 8/28/96 +1000, you wrote:
>G'day,
>
>Found this review of Australia band The Paradise Motel. Thought it might
>interest a few folk on the list (I love this band, BTW):
>
>>
>THE PARADISE MOTEL
> Left Over Life To Kill
> (Infectious)
>
>THE most enthralling, spacial, delicate, minimalist band to ever emerge from
>Australia, exceed expectation with a debut seven-track that in 25 chilling
>minutes swirls through a universe of mood and breathe so sparkled, so
>shadowed, so solar and spectral, it seems likely to collapse in on
>itself. Yet such is the control of The Paradise Motel that the hairline
>trigger between artistic indulgence and atmosphere is never pulled.
>Imagine the Cocteau Twins with the ambience of the Cowboy Junkies on The
>Trinity Sessions; imagine Portishead bathed in incandescent light while a
>waterfall streams fireworks deeper and moodier, brighter
>and more organic, living and gulping in existence while the chariots of
>the damned chase the song of the siren across the skies. Imagine
>keyboards rippling across a pond of sensitivity while guitars chime in
>salute to their divinity. Imagine a woman's voice so perfect it
>hangs life and death in its very cadences. Imagine lyrics that dig from the
>subconscious loops of memory, images and sensations, that trigger unbidden
>thoughts, lost times, barely remembered sentiments, lovers and losers, sex and
>hate, the single bead of perspiration on a full lip that could be a lone tear
>or a pinprick of joy. They are all The Paradise Motel. The voice belongs to
>Merida Sussex, the lyrics (mostly) to Charles Bickford and the instrumental
>interludes to Matthew Aulich. Add an aural tapestry interweaving electric
>guitars, acoustic guitar, Hammond organ, bassoon, French horn, cello,
>violin, viola, bass and drums, stare at the stars, unshackle your heart
>and journey. The Paradise Motel is open ...
>>
>
>I don't know if their stuff has been released in the US or UK yet,though...
>
>Cheers,
>Geoff
>
>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:46:15 -0400
Jamieson" at Aug 27, 96 09:03:05 pm
> << wuxtry records and criminal records are less than a quarter of
> a mile apart. >>
>
> actually its wax n fax, not wuxtry that is near criminal.. definitely go to
> wax n fax, you'll find a much better selection of used cd's, and new stuff
> too. Lotsa vinyl.
You know, I really should have noticed that too when I replied to that
message. Oh well. Anways, I finally made the trip to Criminal to pick up
Stars On E.S.P. (as well as the Magnetic Fields' Charm Of The Highway
Strip). Actually, Wuxtry is pretty good for used stuff and vinyl, too -
it's just closer to Emory.
> best buy wont have most of what you are looking for
> (except the Cumberland mall store which has alot for some reason).
Hmmmm. That's random.
> Oh, and Little 5 doesnt charge for parking if you tell the slacker attendant
> that you are shopping at the strip. Luckily for me, i live within 2 miles of
> most of this area, so i never have a problem getting stuff.
Oh, they're just trying to stop people from parking there and hanging out
in Little 5 all afternoon? i get it.
-greg
who enjoyed the HNIA show last night
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:31:31 -0400
Does anyone out there have an e-mail address for His Name Is Alive? By
that, I mean does Warren have an e-mail address anywhere? Instinct tells me
"NO", but I just wanted to be sure.
Thanks for any info,
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:04:40 -0400
sorry Matthew you missed the muses, they played Spaceland on Tuesday.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 08:58:24 -0700
Fred wrote:
> Where did RHP play in Berkeley.
They played at Berkeley Square on University Ave.
--phil
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:34:59 -0400
>
> Does anyone out there have an e-mail address for His Name Is Alive? By
> that, I mean does Warren have an e-mail address anywhere? Instinct tells me
> "NO", but I just wanted to be sure.
>
trey, the drummer, has email. [email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:18:39 -0400
hey,
would someone pls verify, I can't tell the jokes from the serious posts
anymore,
a.) is there a inner sleeve for Heidi Berry's lp (vinyl)
b.) is there a special edition of the Muses lp (vinyl)
c.) is it possible to mail a vinyl record without having it smashed to bits,
if you charge your customers 6 pounds 50?
I'm becomming dis-enchanted with the mail order service, I wanted access to
some of the cooler stuff, but ended up with a shelf full of Lush cdeps, each
pair counted as a single release, sleeveless records, and exclusion from
special editions. Pls address counter flames to 'grumpy' ...
On a more positive note, does anyone have 'Technicolour' by Disco Inferno?
I can't get enough of this lp, at first I thought way to much guitar, now I
want more ...
Bruce
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:16:47 -0400
reading ms. coney's description of live HNIA
has me all anxious for the september 20 show
at alvins. Qwestion: where exactly _is_ alvin's?
and also, i wonder if/what hnia will be doing,
re: special hometown goodies... an instore at
record collector? i personally have this
idea that HNIA should shoot a video for
'Universal Frequencies' or 'Dub Love Letter'
in downtown detroit, preferably performing
in front of the giant fist (of joe louis) sculpture
or in front of the big tire on I-94 (huge, 30 storey
tall uniroyal tire alongside of detroit interstate)...
i want my E.S.P.
dan k
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:28:52 -0400
>At 03:04 AM 27/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>G'day,
>>
>> I'm after a copy of RHP's 'Shock Me' CD single. I notice that it is
>>available via a few US import stores. Are they just importing via the
>>UK? If so, do any list members in the UK know whether this single is
>>still generally available? It may be easier for me to order this from
>>England rather than from the US.
>>
>>Underworld's 'Spikee/Dogman Go Woof' single is still available in the UK,
>>that would be great.
>>
>>Thanks, Geoff
>>
>
>I just happen to have a spare copy of this if you're interested.....
>
>~ quis
Also, like many other 4AD releases, it is available (at cost) via the 4AD
Mail order service.
cliff
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:43:32 +0000
At 05:04 8/28/96 +0000, you wrote:
>i'm debating whether or not to go to the show tomorrow night here in
>austin. how much old stuff and how much new stuff do they play?
Well, they do mostly stuff from E.S.P., maybe 5 or so OTHER songs, and a new
song about whales with "just the guyz". Karin really carries the show
vocally... wonderful voice live, as well as on record...and you really can
decipher all the words at the live show! Unlike what some have said about
HNIA, the live show isn't really a "noise" show IMHO, but more stripped down
& raw. Very guitar-centric. A heck of a lot of fun...I was grinning &
bopping throughout (which Karin noticed, she said...hey ya'll, if you go to
a live show and sit/stand in front, and if you're enjoying yourself, why not
ACT like you're enjoying yourself. Artists really do notice when everyone's
just sitting like bumps on a log. If you feel the energy, then feed it back,
and it will come back to you twofold!)
As for the internet, Karin & I chatted about it...they apparently keep up
with this list & enjoy it, tho they think some of the opinions put forward
as "fact" are silly (like that there are two women singing on E.S.P....nope,
Karin says she's the only female vocalist on E.S.P....and by the way, nope,
Warren is NOT an ego-maniac, according to Karin (who should know, right?).
Now, before I got my chance to chat with Karin I overheard the tail end of a
story she told another woman. Apparently, there are some fans out there that
have hassled Warren, like Warren somehow saves their wretched life with his
music, the kooky fan writes Warren tons of letters, and when Warren doesn't
answer, well, then Warren is in trouble with this fan! (This one example is
about someone in PA...hey, kooky, are you on this list? GET A LIFE and leave
your favorite artists alone! They don't owe you ANYTHING! Just a suggestion
from one HNIA fan to another...maybe Warren wouldn't seem so standoff-ish if
there weren't so many scary, crazed fans out there! Maybe he feels like he
needs to weave a bit of a protective cocoon around himself...did you ever
think of how you affect the artists you love when you're so, well, PUSHY, to
put it mildly?)
Oh, heck, I didn't mean to go into a big lecture.
>Will the experience be a valuable one? am i asking too many questions?
>basically,
>will it be worth my money? thanks. :)
Yep, definitely worth the moola, as long as you can still pay the rent & eat
during the week...hey, the show in Atlanta was only $7.00...worth twice,
even thrice, the price! And take some extra money, if you can afford it,
cause they're selling (cheap) live tapes, little cool activity books, and a
video (for only $10) with AN ACTUAL ALIEN AUTOPSY!
Hey, HNIA, come back to Atlanta and perform some alien autopsies here. I
SWEAR that most of the audience last nite were aliens...or zombies at least.
Lastly, it was great meeting Greg & Rexual from this list. Greg, keep in
touch & let me know of any cool shows (cause I'm out of town alot & might
not hear of em) ) so I can hopefully maintain my sanity in this cowtown.
Carol
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:21:00 GMT
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Date: 28/08/96 15:09
> Lets hope the Muses don't cancel!!!!
>
Please no!!!
It is getting terrible in Manchester now. Not only cancelled gigs,
but hardly anyone I want to see seems to play here anymore. I seem to
live on local bands waiting for some worthwhile name band to come.
Whats wrong with Manchester, are they all put of by its 'club
culture' identity? The worse thing is after years of avoiding me I am
being forced to go to London to see Nomeasno this saturday (non
listy I am sure) just coz I am fed up of not seeign them. Its just
seems that promoters/bands don't want to ply here anymore - why?
Richard,
Join the increasing queue of the dissatisfied - Thee North used to be
the best in the UK for gigs. 4AD was always London-centric but we
were never short of a good night out up here in the dark industrial
North. Even Liverpool had it's moments.
No, I don't think anything is wrong with Manchester and it's club
culture. I think the cause of the problem is with the record
companies and their attitude to Independent music in the UK. 4AD
(let's keep listy) has always been a label with a strange attitude to
touring, I remember back in the early 1980's having to travel down to
London to see Dif Juz, The Wolfgang Press etc.. The larger bands
always toured e.g. (at the time on 4AD) Cocteaus. Factory was very
much the same, the large bands toured the country, the smaller bands
e.g. Stockholm Monsters, Life etc.. usually only played close to
home.
It was like they wouldn't dish out the money for a smaller band to
tour until they had a large enough following...to get a large
following you need to promote...the best way of promoting is to
tour!! Chicken and the egg!!!
I do feel like I've been unfair to Factory a bit,.. initially they
did speed down the motorways in Transit vans touring all the time, it
was only after Tony Wilson earned enough to buy his first Armani suit
that his head vanished completely up his arse and Factory's policy
changed to only promote the big cash cows!!!!
COME ON 4AD...showcase your bands. Why did Shaving the Pavement only
happen in the USA?? You have fans all over the world...stop fucking
us around and reward us for consitently buying your releases, even
the shit releases!!!!
Paul Walsh
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:16:40 +0000
I want get out of this Talk .....please.
how to do It?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:36:38 -0700
>
> > Before you go making Alanis jokes, remember that 4AD is signing Alanis to
> > a six album deal.
This would not be much of a surprise (and it would probably be a good
idea), seeing as how 4AD has somehow thought it a good idea to sign the
Paladins. I know that several people probably think the Paladins are a
great band with great sound, guitar, etc etc etc, but one listen to
Million Mile Club, or whatever it was called, and I was sure that this
is by far THE WORST release EVER from 4AD. 12 minute live songs from some
crappy blues-rock band should be limited to Blues Traveler or Dave
Matthews Band. Wow... talk about stinky. I only suffered through this
whole cd because I was told I would really like it. Unfortunately, it
was exactly the opposite. I hated it. Severely.
BIG OL' 'F'!
Strick9
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:50:22 -0700
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Michael Borum wrote:
> At 12:22 PM 8/26/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >If you don't get the blues,
> >that's ok, just remeber where everything comes from.
>
> I enjoy the blues, myself, but to say everything comes from that is a little
> too general and not very accurate in the context of the music typically
> discussed on this list.
I don't think that was the intention of "just remember where everything
comes from". I believe it was meant more to mean remember where the BLUES
comes from when you are listening to this record, as opposed to comparing
it to the gothic/ethereal/indie/punk/britpop that 4AD has released in the
past. Examine each recording individually and without prejudice. With
this in mind, I still can't stand the album ;)
Strick9
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:51:09 -0500
"Joel Krueger" at Apr 14, 96 01:47:06 pm
This should be interesting to hear more about:
I was talking to a fellow 4AD music-enthusiast and he mentioned a
Japanese recording artist, female, whose music resembles CT and whose
backup vocals *feature* Elizabeth Frasier herself. Any leads?
*Kendal*
http://www.teleport.com/~obee/kendal.html
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:33:30 EDT
First an apology to those who don't care shit about Manchester. Sorry.
Manchester has always been over-reliant on the student population for gig
attendance, and at the moment said students are still away (leading to the
tradtitional July/August gig drought). Even when they're here, though, it seems
that when they aren't out clubbing, they want to see shit Britpop bands and
their clones. Eitzel's show was cancelled due to low ticket sales, as I suspect
was the reason for RHP doing likewise. It's simply not cost-effective for bands
to come here to be greeted with empty halls. Even Transglobal Underground who
are pretty dance-friendly less than half-filled the Uni. Bands like Bear or
Coping Saw simply don't bother, even though it only means popping over from
Leeds. I can't really blame the bands or the record companies for the apathy of
the people here. In dance culture it's the same. Where are the Drum and bass
nights? I went to the first night of Blueprint at South - an excellent brew of
hip hop, drum and bass, funk and techno - and so did another 10 people. The
Electric Chair, arguably the most cutting edge dance night in the city still
comfortably sits in the tiny Roadhouse. Basically, people here seem to want
gormless indie rock of the Oasis/Weller school or four to the floor house that
sounded dated five years ago. To turn round one of Anthony Wilson's infamous
quotes 'Wake Up Manchester You're Dead'
PS Notice how the Muses three UK dates are in the same cities as last time.
Kristin still likes it here.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:20:04 EDT
WHat is the mailing address or email address of the 4ad mail order service?
I really have to find ap lace to order the "500" eps from lush.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:33:26 -0700
> I was talking to a fellow 4AD music-enthusiast and he mentioned a
> Japanese recording artist, female, whose music resembles CT and whose
> backup vocals *feature* Elizabeth Frasier herself. Any leads?
Where have you been? This is undoubtedly Faye Wong who is
Chinese (or at least from Hong Kong). Two of her CDs are
available from Dewdrops (we get them from a distributor).
For those of you who have forgotten or are new to this
list, these are the many Cocteau Twins connections:
Faye covers Bluebeard and Know Who You Are At Every Age
on the album Random Thinking (1994).
The Cocteau Twins write two songs for her called Fracture
and Brooming Happiness on the album Impatience (1996),
which is very Cocteau Twins-y overall, and I'd claim that
it's even better than Milk and Kisses in some ways.
Milk and Kisses comes out in Hong Kong with a different
version of Serpentskirt featuring a completely different
vocal track featuring Faye Wong. This version is only
available in Hong Kong/Asia.
Tranquil Eye, One of the tracks on one of the Violaine CD singles
from the Cocteaus is their own version of one of the songs
from Impatiance.
We still have some copies of both Impatience and Random Thinking
available. Email me for ordering info.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:12:08 -0400
> Simon,
>
> if you remember they were scheduled to play the Academy about 18
> months to 2 years ago and that gig was also cancelled. I've only seen
> them twice before, once at the 13 year itch bash (bloody awful set),
> and, then at Manchester Uni which was OUTSTANDING!!!!! The rapport
> with the crowd was fantastic.
>
> The cancellation has just poured more fuel on a bad year for me too -
> Scheer didn't turn up at Man Uni, then I made the journey down to
> London for the aborted DCD gig!!
>
> The thing that pisses me off the most is (and I know that RHP aren't
> on 4AD anymore!!) the London-centric approach to gigging that 4AD
> bands seems to have. I wouldn't have seen Tarnation or Mojave 3 at all
> if I hadn't been lucky enough to be attending a seminar in 'The Smoke'
> earlier this year!!!! It only seems to be the 'less well known'
> (outside this list) artists that stay in London!
>
> 4AD should learn - if it wants to promote less well known artists, get
> them on the road and meet the fans! What's wrong with the North? At
> least you get a good reception and good beer up here! (I mean to say,
> if Kristen Hersh plays the Parr Hall Warrington then the North must be
> groovy and hip :) !!!!!!).
>
> Saying all this, I am making a special journey down to London to see
> Tortoise!!! (But they did have the courtesy to support Stereolab at
> Man Uni).
>
> What's the situation like for 4AD gigs in Europe??? Is it worse
> still?? The attitude to gigging in the USA seems much more healthy
> than over here, where in general it's SHIT!!
>
> Lets hope the Muses don't cancel!!!!
>
> Paul Walsh
> [email protected]
Sorry you're upset, but if you think about the financial implications of
bringing a band over to play you may have saved yourself an e-mail. It
doesn't make sense to bring a new band over to the UK at all, but we try to
wherever possible so people like you can see them.
Unfortunately, with limited time in their schedule and nearly all the
journalists/radio/tv in London we have to concentrate on London. When these
people deign to write about/play the bands and we see that reflect in more
regional interest we would love to have bands play outside London and do.
Until then, sorry you have to travel.
cliff walton - 4ad ltd
PS If the Muses have to cancel it will be for as uncontrollable reason like
DCD - ie an important member of the band is too ill to play.
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:22:14 +0200
>I do feel like I've been unfair to Factory a bit,.. initially they
>did speed down the motorways in Transit vans touring all the time, it
>was only after Tony Wilson earned enough to buy his first Armani suit
>that his head vanished completely up his arse
...and a few years later Factory went bankrupt.
By the way, Stockholm Monsters, Section 25, Crispy Ambulance, The Wake,
they've all visited the Continent, so the 'smaller' bands didn't only play
close to home. It was a bit of a problem though that their records were not
readily available here. Stockholm Monsters even wrote a song about it: 'How
Corrupt Is Rough Trade?'. Quite appropriately issued through Factory Benelux
(and readily available in the UK).
Frank
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