Subject: Re: HNIA dates
Subject: Not4AD-related
Subject: Re: detroit happenings, r.e.m., h.n.i.a., g.o.d.z.u.k.i.
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay: Institute Benjamenta
Subject: Re: Air Miami/Versus
Subject: Re: Availability of RHP's 'Shock Me' single?
Subject: Live in Toronto
Subject: TRR Ltd arrived!
Subject: FSA and TIT
Subject: Lisa Germano
Subject: xymox
Subject: Silly web page... no 4AD
Subject: Re: muses in SF
Subject: Re: xymox
Subject: Xymox lyrics
Subject: Shows in Denver 8/30 to 9/2
Subject: rhp or muses in LA?
Subject: kranky.
Subject: Re: rhp in berkeley
Subject: Re: rhp or muses in LA?
Subject: Re: Acquiring E.S.P./atlanta record shops
Subject: Re: xymox
Subject: Review: The Paradise Motel
Subject: TRR Ltd. edition question
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:06:22 -0400
you can add a september date on that ole list for good ole hometown
DEEEEtroit... hnia with another one of my favs, low, will appear live and
in person at alvin's twilight bar in the heart of DEEEEEtroit. the date
will be the sixteenth. check out the metro times if interested or my web
page-o for mor info
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Dewdrops Records wrote:
> Since I had to search a while for HINA dates, I'm posting
> them from the 4AD web site:
>
> August:
> 21 Cambridge at the Middle East Upstairs
> 22 Hoboken at Maxwells
> 23 New York at Fez
> 24 Philadelphia at Khyber Pass Pub
> 25 Washington DC at the Black Cat
> 27 Atlanta at Smith's Olde Bar
> 29 Austin at the Cactus Cafe
> 30 Houston at the Urban Art Bar
> 31 Dallas at Poor David's Pub
>
> September:
> 03 Tempe at Stink Weeds
> 04 San Diego at The Casbah
> 05 Los Angeles at Lunapark
> 06 Los Angeles at Lunapark
> 07 San Francisco at The Kilowatt
> 09 Portland at Umbra Penumbra
> 10 Seattle at The Tractor Tavern
> 13 Minneapolis at Bryant Lake Bowl
> 14 Chicago at Schubas
>
>
> | Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
> | Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
> | Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
> | http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:09:31 -0500
Just saw the Rachel's--they were fantastic. I won't bore you all with
the details, but I did want to mention their merchandising. Not only do
they have their first two albums for sale (both CD and Vinyl, except
they were out of vinyl _Handwriting_) and T-shirts, they also have
coffee mugs and flip-books. See them if you get a chance. Their live
show is every bit as good as the albums, occassionally surpassing that
which has been committed to tape.
--gary ([email protected])
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:29:53 -0400
i have heard of shaolin temple label. i think that their anti-rock stuff
is what it is. i respect that jennifer wolski just goes out there and has
fun. i really don't want to get in the middle of this flame. i see one
side that warren seems like the guy who would forget his head if it
weren't strapped on, yet he never seemed vicious or like he meant to steal
all the credit. i think that everyone should just kool down the jets
because it's not worth fighting about. i think sometimes we forget that it
is all about music. it's not ego fest or anything, just simply music.
sometimes we get way into personal lives and behind the scenes and we
forget the good stuff. the music...
I MADE A MISTAKE>>>HIS NAME IS ALIVE PLAYS DEEEEtroit ON THE TWENTIETH>
> At 05:46 AM 21/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, James L. Napiorkowski Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>> i guess this makes up for their
> >> >> >online mistake about his name is alive. when the brothers quay short
> films
> >> >> came to the detroit institute of arts film theatre, they said that the
> >> >> >quays show will feature london's his name is alive. they didn't even kn
w
> >> >> >muzik from their own backyard.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Well that little incident about the misprint can make up for all the
> >> >times Warren has "forgotten" to mention specific people, record labels,
> >> >and bands from around here when articles are done and questions are asked.
.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> oh, please do vent somemore......just because someone's trifle little garag
> >> label didn't get credit in a tiny local paper about it's only credible
> >> release featuring hisnameisalive, is no reason to hold a grudge against
> >> someone for so long, who didn't even have anything to do with the foul-up.
> >> becoming a bit spiteful?
> >>
> >
> >I wasn't referring so much to our dealings with TIMEstereo and I could
> >really care less about us not getting accredited for the release. And it
> >has more to do with those people who Warren DID not credit in the Metro
> >Times article who were not very happy with the the things written. It's
> >just common knowledge to some of us around here the certain credits
> >weren't given where credit should have been in various articles.....
>
> OK, I'm no journalist, but they do tend to cut and snip and edit here and
> there to their hearts content however they see fit....ever think of that?
>
> >And
> >despite how you view us a trifle "garage" label that is your own view and
> >business. We may not be huge but we are recognized: just not by the
> >little noise clique you follow from the Michigan area....
> >
>
> you are recognized? hmmm, nothing I've ever read. Fact is, I don't think
> anyone on this list (apart from yourself and Kelli) had even heard of your
> label prior to the release of the HNIA split 7"..... And I do keep up with
> alot more than just the noise about these parts, and never seen the name
> mentioned.
>
> >>>another show to follow in September at a book store
> >> >>
> >> > Possibly at the Book Beat at 9 Mile and Greenfield? Corey and the rest
> >> >of the Destroy All Monsters crew have a lot in common with the PDM/Time
> >> >Stereo guys so I figure that's where it will be. Davin's art is quite
> >> >strange. I have two "CDs" that he made for PDM that consisted of him
> >> >taking old CDs and breaking them and painting them and so on. Then he
> >> >would be devious and put them out for sale at $10 a piece!! I actually
> >> >bought them from him 4 years ago and he freaked out! (he gave me the
> >> >other ones free after that).
> >> >
> >>
> >> well, you know... beauty (and the same could be said for art) is in the eye
> >> of the beholder...either that or you're saying you are really gullible.
> >>
> >>
> > I never said I criticized the art done by Davin for shit's sake... I
> >bought the CDs from Davin to support Time Stereo before it became more
> >well known. Davin, Kenny and Warren know that so I have no need to
> >justify that too you...
>
> first you say he's being devious, then you say you bought them to support
> timeSTEREO....hmmmm...to me it just sounds like you were perhaps just trying
> to get on their good side, just so that eventually you might put something
> of theirs on your lil label. the rest of the list can form their own
> opinion (as I'm sure they will), but personally, instead of holding this
> little vendetta against Warren, I think you should get down and kiss his
> feet and thank him for giving you the recognition you did get from the
> 7"...yes, you ARE now known...thanks to Warren & Co.
>
> >
> >> >grasshopper
> >> >
> >>
> >*****************************************************************************
> >> >The deadliest of weapons created by the Shaolin to attack the nervous
> >> >system and break down all willpower rendering the victim stupid. The
> >> >first sonic disease experiment. We are <
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:53:20 -0400
On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, cz wrote:
> I saw the first Brothers Quay full-length live action film, *Institute
> Benjamenta*, yesterday and it wasn't at all what i was thinking it would be.
> I'd liken the film to a photonovel in which you view a series of very artful
> black and white photos (or Max Ernst collage series). Each photo by itself is
> rather beautiful to look at but the pace is slow and there is much room for
> interpretation in the plot (the passive viewer may indeed find the story line
> befuddling).
maybe you would like the brother's quay more low-attention span needed
short animation films. i thought the pace of Institute Benjamenta was
excellent. i think the the plot is set loosely to give way to more grander
themes and symbolism
> The film itself is beautifully shot in black and white, while sound is
> used half for artful effect, a quarter for overdubbed narration, and a quarter
> for dialogue. Many of the shots seem like they ought to be a This Mortal Coil
> video with wonderful use of chiaroscuro and texture.
have you seen the brother's quay films for his name is alive? i definitely
recommend them highly. the brothers also did a film for singer michael
penn (the brother of actors sean and chris). they do have that this mortal
coil texture about them.
> Plot takes asecond seat to symbolism--i think i'll have to see this film
> again in order to understand
> it. Imagine a Jean Cocteau film where surrealism is used with much more
> subtlety (perhaps too much subtlety) with as much or more obscure symbolism.
> This film sets Bros. Quay *apart* from Hollywood and it's bastard child
> "indpendent film" by not pandering to select interest groups, pre-proven
> formulae, or shortening attention spans. The Quay animation shorts may have h
d
> an accessibility that this film lacks but if you're interested in Cocteau/City
> of Lost Children/Brazil/This Mortal Coil-esque cinema and have *faith* that th
> brothers aren't just pulling your leg, then you will be well advised to see th
s
> film.
>
> -cz
>
> PS: "What's it about?" you ask, as if it mattered. Well, it's about a man wh
> enters an instute to become a servant OR about a woman who dreams of freedom.
> You choose.
>
> PPS: I welcome any dissenting opinions or additional comments. Direct 'em to
> me ([email protected]) if you feel they're inappropriate for the list.
>
the brothers quay are probably my favorite living directors (kieslowski,
we will miss you...). i wish people would see these films, and since the
worked for ivo to do the two hnia films than they are definitely legit to
talk about. if people can start talking about warren de lafever's (i'll
give credit to godzuki for the funny spelling) intentions than the
brother's quay are in.
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:19:00 GMT
Date: 24/08/96 18:25
Rich wrote:
>Air Miami is a up in the air. Mark Robinson has a solo project called
Olympic >Death Squad, which he is touring right now. Whether Bridget and
Mark decide to >do another record is one decision and whether 4AD releases
it is another.
I'm quite sure there'll be an Air Miami 12"/CD-EP (Teenbeat# 197) out
sometime in September, featuring an extended version of 'Pucker'. Well,
that's what Evelyn at Teenbeat told me and what the very latest Teenbeat
Cataloq says.
Hey, and buy that Teenbeat Computer Mousepad (Teenbeat# 208). It's beautiful.
Buy the Mug it's wonderful (Teenbeat 198)!!!!!!!!
Paul Walsh
[email protected]
>Versus is one of the most exciting bands playing around now. If they play
with >2 guitarists you are extra lucky. They played the 4AD/Teenbeat
showcase at CMJ >last year and it was absolutely life-affirming.
Yep, check out their brilliant new album 'Secret Swingers' on
Teenbeat/Caroline (Teenbeat# 222). I think it's even better than their
monumental 'The Stars Are Insane'.
Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:53:34 +0000
Geoff Elgey wrote:
G'day,
I'm after a copy of RHP's 'Shock Me' CD single. I notice that it is
available via a few US import stores. Are they just importing via the
UK? If so, do any list members in the UK know whether this single is
still generally available? It may be easier for me to order this from
England rather than from the US.
Underworld's 'Spikee/Dogman Go Woof' single is still available in the
UK,
that would be great.
Thanks, Geoff
hey there geoff,
well, i'm actually not from the u.k., but hopefully i can answer this
one for you anyway.
the 'shock me' ep *is* out of print. the reason that there seem to still
be copies floating around (fewer and fewer all the time) in the u.s. is
that they've been sitting at various distributors.
a couple of months ago, i bought six or seven brand new copies that i
could sell (at cost, obviously) to people through the rhp site, just as
a service to other fans who couldn't find it.
if you, or anyone else on the list still needs one, i think i've got,
like, two left. after that i may still be able to get some more or at
least point people in a decently-priced 'other' direction.
if you still need help, let me know.
take care,
K-
p.s., none of the dates on your side of the pond have been 100%
confirmed yet, but when they have been (by island), they'll be up at the
site within a day or two.
--
My personal page, linked to Official home pages for the bands
LOWLIFE, RED HOUSE PAINTERS, BAY, Downer (coming soon)
and the website for the ANOISE ANNOYS: AMERICA record label.
Hope you enjoy.
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:32:08 -0700
Updated Toronto & area dates:
MELANEIE DOANE
Toronto, ON Aug. 28 Ultrasound Showbar (416) 593-0540
CARDIGANS w/ Kinnie Star
Toronto, ON Sep. 7 Lee's Palace (416) 260-5700
THE KELLEY DEAL 6000 w/ Versus, Low, The Local Rabbits
Waterloo, ON Sep. 7 University of Waterloo
London, ON Sep. 8 The Spoke
Toronto, ON Sep. 9 Lee's Palace
Ottawa, ON Sep. 10 Barrymore's
Montreal, PQ Sep. 12 Cabaret (500) (514) 285-2423
THROWING MUSES w/ Clove, Watercan
Toronto, ON Sep. 6 Horseshoe (416) 598-4753
BOB MOULD w/ Big Green Sea
Toronto, ON Oct. 5 Lee's Palace (416) 532-1598
THE CURE
Toronto, ON Sep. 9 Varsity Areana (416) 870-8000
compiled by
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:21:29 +0200
Hi Ho!
Stop press!
This Rimy River Limited edition arrived in the mail today at my homeaddress!
Cheers,
Huite
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:07:00 PDT
I've been off the list awhile so this may be old. I just read that
some of the members of "Flying Saucer Attack" have a group
"Teenagers In Trouble" now. Any similarities between the two?
kent
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:22:12 +0000
Pardon me if this sounds dated.
I just got myself Lisa Germano's GEEK THE GIRL, and I must say that I've
not heard something so brilliant in a long time.
Can someone please tell me how HAPPINESS compares to GTG, and a little
more about Lisa Germano?
Tks!
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:29:39 -0400
can anyone tell me where i can find the lyrics for muscoviet musquito?
--robn
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:18:09 +0200
This is a silly web page:
http://www.etter.ch/midimirror/framdir.htm
It has no 4AD content (I wish there was)
If you can play midi-files / have the QuickTime Musical Instruments plug-in
installed you could have some FUN... It's a big collection of stupid
pop-midi-files (Cure, Cranberries, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode, Madonna,
Carpenters etc.) Everything sounds like cheap elevator muzak!
They should add some 4AD sounds (Cocteau Twins, Belly, Michael Brook, Dead
Can Dance and Red House Painters could be great midi-artists!)
Yes, I'm bored.
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 27, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:08:20 EDT
> saw the Throwing Muses in SF last night, and it was wonderful!
>
> the highlight, for me, was that it was a no-smoking show (due to Kristin's
> pregnancy), and i was thrilled to finally be able to enjoy live music and
> breathable air at the same time.
>
> the band put on a great show -- much better than when i saw them at slim's a
> few months back.
>
> maybe it's the pregnancy, but kristin's energy seemed a little mellower than
> when i've seen them in the past. she played fewer of the songs that really
> seem to "possess" her when she plays them.
>
> the set list (not in order) to the best of my recollection was:
>
> >From LIMBO:
> ruthie's knocking
> night driving
> freeloader
> shark
> limbo
> tango
>
> >From UNIVERSITY:
> teller
> hazing
> shimmer
> bright yellow gun
> start
>
> >From RED HEAVEN
> furious
> backroad
> pearl
>
> >From HUNKPAPA
> bea
> take
>
> >From THE REAL RAMONA
> counting backwards
> red shoes
> two step
>
> >From other albums/singles
> like a dog
> cottonmouth
> jak
> you cage
>
> all in all, the group seemed to be having a good time up on stage (also
> different than the last time i saw them). as always, though, i wish they'd
> mix kristin's vocals higher.
>
> the opening act, Craig Ross, didn't do much for me.
>
> --phil
>
GODDAMN!
why did they play you cage and red shoes everywhere but new york!?!?!
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:08:48 -0500
Try the official Xymox home page, run by Ronny and Hans.
http://www.cybercomm.nl/~xymox/bside.html
The page listed above points you to the Muscoviet Mosquito lyrics.
John, such a fan of Xymox that he once covered "Obsession" in a high
school band
On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, andromeda wrote:
> can anyone tell me where i can find the lyrics for muscoviet musquito?
> --robn
>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:47:24 -0700
>From the Xymox Web Site
www.cybercomm.nl/~xymox/xymox.html
(excuse the formatting-- i just pasted it right from the page)
MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
I MUST WRITE A LETTER TO YOU
I MUST MAKE MYSELF CLEAR
IT IS SPOT ON TIME
RIGHT ON QUEUE
I AM A CLAN
SOMEBODY SAID TO ME
IT'S OBSCENE
THERE MUST BE MOTIVES BEHIND
IT'S SO OBSCURE
THERE MUST BE SOMEONE BEHIND
A MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
A MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
A MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
A VIVID IMAGE ANYWAY
SOMEONE SAID YOU'RE A CLAN
CONSIDER THIS
MMM LISTEN
OH LISTEN TO ME
YOU ARE FAR
A THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM HERE
I AM HERE
I AM HERE IN THIS OOZE THROUGH COUNTRY
TRAMPLED DOWN BY MEGA PEOPLE
A DISPUTE WILL NEVER END
A RETROSPECTION
IT SOUNDS OBSCENE
A DISCONNECTION
A FINAL BALANCE SHEET FOR
FOR MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
FOR MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
IT SOUNDS OBSCENE
IT SOUNDS OBSCURE FOR MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
FOR MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
MY FINAL BALANCE SHEET IS GONE
FOR MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
A MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
A MUSCOVIET MUSQUITO
IT IS SPOT ON TIME
YOU'RE A CLAN
RIGHT ON QUEUE
SOMEBODY SAID
YOU MISSED THE CHANGE
SOMEBODY VEXEDLY SAID
IT'S OBSCENE
THERE MUST BE MOTIVES BEHIND
IT'S OBSCURE
THERE MUST BE SOMEONE BEHIND
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:49:07 -0600
I'm going on a trip to Denver, Colorado this weekend (August 30
through September 2). Anyone know of any thislisty or
obthislisty bands (or any other good bands for that matter) that
will be performing there at that time? Again, those dates are
August 30 through Sept 2. Thank you very much.
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:51:12 -0700
Hi all fellow californians,
I noticed that rhp and muses played San Francisco. Does anyone know if
they're playing LA this week. We didn't get our Sunday paper so I am
clueless as to what's going on this week.
Please email me personally.
Thanks,
matthew
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:19:29 -0400
Does any of you have the e-mail of the label kranky?
Regards.
Wilder.
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:22:27 -0700
At 2:39 PM 8/26/96, [email protected] wrote:
>maybe i missed it, but i don't recall seeing anyone post a review of the RHP
>show in berkeley last tuesday.
Where did RHP play in Berkeley. I say no advertisement for them in BAM or
the S.F. Guardian.
Fred
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:21:04 -0700
At 3:51 PM 8/27/96, Matthew Polder wrote:
>Hi all fellow californians,
>
>I noticed that rhp and muses played San Francisco. Does anyone know if
>they're playing LA this week. We didn't get our Sunday paper so I am
>clueless as to what's going on this week.
>
>Please email me personally.
>
>Thanks,
>matthew
When did RHP play. I didn't see any advertisement for them?
Fred
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:03:05 -0400
In a message dated 96-08-23 16:13:35 EDT, you write:
<< wuxtry records and criminal records are less than a quarter of
a mile apart. >>
actually its wax n fax, not wuxtry that is near criminal.. definitely go to
wax n fax, you'll find a much better selection of used cd's, and new stuff
too. Lotsa vinyl. best buy wont have most of what you are looking for
(except the Cumberland mall store which has alot for some reason).
Oh, and Little 5 doesnt charge for parking if you tell the slacker attendant
that you are shopping at the strip. Luckily for me, i live within 2 miles of
most of this area, so i never have a problem getting stuff. If you live out
in the stix, why dont you try ordering from EAR/rational?
jennifer
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:56:15 -0400
you can find them in the xymox lyrics page under b-sides in the xymox files
web page at http://www.cybercomm.nl/~xymox/lyric.html as welll as most of the
other songs straight from RONNY MOORINGS himself.