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Subject: Re: Bros. Quay: Institute Benjamenta
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:37:45 -0500
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: quis is making me queazy
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:07:22 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Mirror Pool, Zardoz
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:02 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: Paladins
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:22:53 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Galaxie 500 box set
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:51:42 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Lonely Is as Lonely Does
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:46:29 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: Re: Paladins
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:43:17 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: rhp in berkeley
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:39:00 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500 box set
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:49:24 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Barcelona Record Stores
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:56:18 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Lonely Is as Lonely Does
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:56:24 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: muses in SF
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:25 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: HNIA & Paige in LA Thurs Sept. 5th
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:14:25 -0400
From: GwenVo@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Lonely Is as Lonely Does
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:13:11 -0700
From: Spigi Fligi Hertlemeyer (sylv@STERJE.COM)
Subject: Re: Hersh/Muses film
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:49:44 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:48:44 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: cd prices/*danger*
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:48:32 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: recent acquisitions
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:11:25 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:06:18 +0000
From: Stephane Sommet (zouzou@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: WARNING: Rykodisc/Nice Records content
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:09:48 -0400
From: DaveSokol@AOL.COM
Subject: Availability of RHP's 'Shock Me' single?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:04:16 +1000
From: Geoff Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:37:45 -0500
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bros. Quay: Institute Benjamenta


Is institut benjamenta available on videotape?  Thanks for any info...

Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:07:22 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: quis is making me queazy


>
> ~  quis
>

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
someone please explain to me how to create a kill file for mailtool.
i'm serious, i can't take it anymore.


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:02 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: Re: Mirror Pool, Zardoz


lbo wrote:
> I am watching now a '70 sf film called Zardoz.

Zardoz!  Now *there* is one bizarre flick!

--
John Porter
jporter@btg.com


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:22:53 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Paladins


Wow,  I knew some people on the list would not like the Paladins, but to
descibe them so thrid rate like is just wrong.  Hands down, the guitarist
from the Paladins is the best that 4AD has seen.  If you don't get the blues,
that's ok, just remeber where everything comes from. For anyone who has seen
the Paladins you know what I am talking about.  Ivo recently said.
 "...that's what we're doing here, just working with things that we like and
that we want to listen to, wear, look at, etc."  I don't know about anyone
else, but I recently bought Free's FREE and CCR's Bayou Country and I could
not be happier.  They have been incredibly refreshing and I am looking
forward to getting more.

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:51:42 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Galaxie 500 box set


according to my sources, there will only be 700 box sets produced. something
like $50 at retail.

this was heresay, mind you.

you might find more at http://www.rykodisc.com
or you might not.


joe


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:46:29 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: Lonely Is as Lonely Does


Hi all,
I've got a "Lonely Is An Eyesore" video up for sale.
This is an essential foundation for any 4AD fan's collection,
so if you don't have it, here's an opportunity.
$30+postage, please.

--
John Porter
jporter@btg.com


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:43:17 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Paladins


At 12:22 PM 8/26/96 -0400, you wrote:

>If you don't get the blues,
>that's ok, just remeber where everything comes from.

I enjoy the blues, myself, but to say everything comes from that is a little
too general and not very accurate in the context of the music typically
discussed on this list.

Dif Juz, Colourbox, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance -- OH YEAH -- they ALL
have blues roots....

I would have to agree, however, that it's obvious at least some part of 4AD
is moving in that direction with outfits like Mojave 3 and Tarnation, and
now with these Paladins people.  I personally find it refreshing -- whether
I actually LIKE the music or not (and I do love Mojave 3 and like Tarnation)
-- if for no other reason than the fact that 4AD is still serving up what
can truly be considered ALTERNATIVE when compared to what MTV is trying to
peddle to the masses most of the time.


mike
iceblink@tiac.net


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:39:00 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: rhp in berkeley


maybe i missed it, but i don't recall seeing anyone post a review of the RHP
show in berkeley last tuesday.

there actually wasn't too much to report.  it was definitely _not_ the best
RHP show i've seen.  in fact, at the end of the show, Mark called it "the
most embarassing gig i've ever played."

the show started out with Mark discovering that his amp wasn't working, and
Phil's amp ended up giving out toward the end of the show.

Mark seemed to alternate between grumpy and silly, and the band played an
unusual set which included "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (Peter, Paul & Mary),
"Keep on Loving You" (REO Speedwagon), "Don't Fear the Reaper" (BOC) &
various other odds & ends.  they started around 10:30, and played about 2-1/2
hours, including the technical breaks, and ended with Mark doing some solo
acoustic stuff.

all in all, enjoyable, but a little disappointing after the past few times
i've seen them.

--phil


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:49:24 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500 box set


On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 JoeJanecek@aol.com wrote:

> according to my sources, there will only be 700 box sets produced. something
> like $50 at retail.

700?  come on, why not 500?  only 500 copies available in the galaxie.
ha.


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:56:18 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Barcelona Record Stores


I'm going to Barcelona at the end of the week, and I would be very glad if
someone could mail me the addresses of some good Barcelona record stores,
especially stores that still stock vinyl, either new or second hand.

Thanks in advance!

Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:56:24 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Lonely Is as Lonely Does


>Hi all,
>I've got a "Lonely Is An Eyesore" video up for sale.
>This is an essential foundation for any 4AD fan's collection,
>so if you don't have it, here's an opportunity.
>$30+postage, please.

...The LIAE video is GBP 12,- (=US$ 18,-), plus postage, from 4AD mailorder.


Frank

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:25 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: muses in SF


saw the Throwing Muses in SF last night, and it was wonderful!

the highlight, for me, was that it was a no-smoking show (due to Kristin's
pregnancy), and i was thrilled to finally be able to enjoy live music and
breathable air at the same time.

the band put on a great show -- much better than when i saw them at slim's a
few months back.

maybe it's the pregnancy, but kristin's energy seemed a little mellower than
when i've seen them in the past.  she played fewer of the songs that really
seem to "possess" her when she plays them.

the set list (not in order) to the best of my recollection was:

from LIMBO:
ruthie's knocking
night driving
freeloader
shark
limbo
tango

from UNIVERSITY:
teller
hazing
shimmer
bright yellow gun
start

from RED HEAVEN
furious
backroad
pearl

from HUNKPAPA
bea
take

from THE REAL RAMONA
counting backwards
red shoes
two step

from other albums/singles
like a dog
cottonmouth
jak
you cage

all in all, the group seemed to be having a good time up on stage (also
different than the last time i saw them).  as always, though, i wish they'd
mix kristin's vocals higher.

the opening act, Craig Ross, didn't do much for me.

--phil

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:14:25 -0400
From: GwenVo@AOL.COM
Subject: HNIA & Paige in LA Thurs Sept. 5th


I just wanted to let everybody know that on Thursday, Sept. 5th at Luna Park,
His Name is Alive will be playing with the Los Angeles local band, Paige.
They are an incredible band, probably one of the best new bands to come out
of the LA scene in a long time. Their sound is very old school 4ad. According
to the flyer, HNIA goes on at 9:00p.m., followed by Paige at 10:30p.m. So
anybody going to see HNIA on that particular night, stick around to see a
really cool band. Also, here's the number for Luna Park. (310) 652-0611.
Cover charge for that night is $8.00, and unfortunately for you youngsters,
it's 21 and over.


Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:13:11 -0700
From: Spigi Fligi Hertlemeyer (sylv@STERJE.COM)
Subject: Re: Lonely Is as Lonely Does

              <3221E2F5.3B08@btg.com>

I'm interesteed in the video

-spigi

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:49:44 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Hersh/Muses film


remove me from your list.

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:48:44 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION


please...  remove me from your list.


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:48:32 -0400
From: Edward Edwards (Banshee20@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: cd prices/*danger*


please...  remove me from your list

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:11:25 -0400
From: PLBear@AOL.COM
Subject: recent acquisitions


just my two cents on some recent releases i've picked up:

Throwing Muses - Limbo:  great new album.  i personally like it much better
than University, which i didn't think held together that well as an album.
 in some ways Limbo is reminiscent of older Muses material, but also explores
some new directions.

Throwing Muses - Shark e.p.:  as has been mentioned before, this contains
reworkings of three songs from Limbo -- i think all three provide interesting
alternatives to the album tracks, and i think i prefer the e.p. versions of
"Serene" and "Limbo".  but maybe that's just 'cause i heard them first.

Lisa Germano - Excerpts from a Love Circus:  great album!  i stumbled on an
advance import copy, and have listened to it many times already.  the songs
tread the usual ground -- namely, dysfunctional relationships and low
self-esteem -- with lisa's usual dry wit and quirky style.  the musical
arrangements are complex -- at times verging on lush and atmospheric, other
times busy and circus-like.  the vocals are filtered on most songs -- it's
almost like the whole album is wrapped in several layers of silky gauze.

Lisa Germano - Small Heads e.p.:  takes one of the best songs off the album,
and packages it with some OK b-sides.

Spoonfed Hybrid - Hybernation Shock e.p.:  not as interesting as the SH
full-length.  more electronic and experimental-sounding to my ears.

Low - The Curtain Hits the Cast:  typical low -- quiet, bleak beauty.  if you
like Low, you'll like this.

The Carousel - ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ:  kinda lo-fi sounding acoustic
girl-voice pop including Amelia Fletcher of Heavenly.  pleasant, but a bit
coying.

Bear - Disneytime:  full-length from Chris Trout and friends.  i preferred
the first EP when they included a female vocalist.  the new lineup (as on the
"Bugs" EP) wears a bit thin.

Love Spirals Downwards - Sideways Forest e.p.:  beautiful, as always, but not
the best i've heard from them, but i'm still eagerly awaiting the new album.

==phil


Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:06:18 +0000
From: Stephane Sommet (zouzou@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: CANCELLATION


At 07:48 PM 8/26/96 -0400, you wrote:
>please...  remove me from your list.
>
No way, you'll stay there for the rest of your life...

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:09:48 -0400
From: DaveSokol@AOL.COM
Subject: WARNING: Rykodisc/Nice Records content


I'm a free load er!
I'm a free load er!    -KristinH

Oh yeah, so as folks 'round here uncorked champagne bottles over the demise
of Belly, I was kinda hoping for some sort of eulogy. Somebody has to say
something nice about the crew - they were kind of a funky lot, you know.
Hey, even I forgave them for the Moon EP. Gail's jokes about T., 2 seconds of
coverage at the Grammys and "White Belly" and "Star" live were something
else.
I will miss them.

"With lotions of love and oceans of only you...welcome...to my world." -
KelleyD


Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:04:16 +1000
From: Geoff Elgey (elgey@FIT.QUT.EDU.AU)
Subject: Availability of RHP's 'Shock Me' single?


G'day,

  I'm after a copy of RHP's 'Shock Me' CD single. I notice that it is
available via a few US import stores. Are they just importing via the
UK? If so, do any list members in the UK know whether this single is
still generally available? It may be easier for me to order this from
England rather than from the US.

Underworld's 'Spikee/Dogman Go Woof' single is still available in the UK,
that would be great.

Thanks, Geoff


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