4ad-l Mail for 08-24-1996

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Subject: Re: DCD list? NO! Ethereal list, perhaps.
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:43:15 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Glenn Branca
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:59:53 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Re: New DCD single (exclusive!)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:19:25 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Topolino
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:30:32 -0400
From: mondegreen (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Kate St John cd (w/Virginia Astley) for sale...
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:08:40 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: His Name is Alive in store appearance
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:11:28 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Splitting 4AD-L/Respect/Digest
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:21:32 -0400
From: Kevin Duell (Mailists@AOL.COM)
Subject: galaxie 500
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:16:16 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: detroit happenings, r.e.m., h.n.i.a., g.o.d.z.u.k.i.
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:46:00 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:43:15 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD list? NO! Ethereal list, perhaps.


> AND WOULD!  We'd have 1 valuable message a day and 25 pieces of e-trash.

Sounds better than the ratio here... <:-)

Mike

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:59:53 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Glenn Branca


The orchestral symphony #9 is a bit of an anomaly.  Most Glenn Branca is
scored for electric guitar, and lots of them (#5, I think, has 99
guitarists on stage).  I'm only familiar with #3 (Gloria) and #6 (name
escapes me).  Both sound pretty much like endless crescendos of Sonic
Youth tuning up (Lee and Thurston are on #3), are a bit jarring to the
ear unaccustumed to just intonation and the harmonic series, but are just
the trick for fans of piercing, hovering drones unadulterated by pop
sensibilities...

d s roy


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:19:25 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: New DCD single (exclusive!)


>PIAS released a two track CDsingle by Dead Can Dance...

Thanks for the info Huite, but...

        A Dead Can Dance single?! Why??

        (so they can get it on radio play-lists and sell more records)

        And why NOW? and not when the album was released


>1. The Snake and The Moon (edit)

        Why this track?
        Who did the editting? (is it a fade-out after four minutes?)

>2. Song of the Nile

        Why not an unreleased track? To make it more interesting...


But... I'm probably going to buy it anyway :-)


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 24, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:30:32 -0400
From: mondegreen (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Topolino


>>The forthcoming Lush compilation to be released in Japan by Nippon
>>Columbia is to be titled "Topolino", which is Italian for little mouse.
>
>maybe you be interested to know that "Topolino" was the popular nickname for
>a small car produced by Fiat in the late '50, that evolved into the 500.
>this nickname then become an official name for that car.

That's a little confusing for the viewers at home, considering Lush's
newfound fascination with the 500. It needs to be said that the Topolino and
the Cinquecento (500) are not the same thing. The Topolino is quite a bit
bigger.


Larry, still nostalgic for a Fiat 850, even though it was horribly unreliable


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:08:40 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Kate St John cd (w/Virginia Astley) for sale...


 Hi all,

I have Kate St John's "Indescribable Night" cd for sale, which features
Virginia Astley singing and playing piano on the track called 'Now the Night
Comes Stealing In".  It's from 1995, on Gyroscope.  $8.00 postage included &
it's yours!

Peter

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:11:28 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: His Name is Alive in store appearance


Hello fellow Bay Area His Name is Alive lovers,

Just in case you don't know, HNIA will be performing live in-store at Mod
Lang records in Berkeley on Sat. September 7th (afternoon of their show at
the Kilowatt) at 3pm (or maybe 2pm? can't recall, sorry!)...should be a fun
time.
Peter


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:21:32 -0400
From: Kevin Duell (Mailists@AOL.COM)
Subject: Splitting 4AD-L/Respect/Digest


I like the list as it is.  Having 4AD as the topic makes the boundaries very
clear.  Deciding what is and isn't *ethereal* sounds more complicated
politically. Even though DCD is my favorite 4AD band,  I agree with others
that an exclusive list would soon fester. Plus, I like the broad spectrum of
bands and topics. 4AD is still a small enough label to keep this list from
being overwhelming.

What I would like to see is respect for each other's band preferences.  One's
tastes are inarguable, after all.  For me to launch curses against bands I
don't like is nonsense - I don't have to listen that music, I don't have to
read that mail. This is a community of sorts and manners are called for.
 Without manners we might as well just go kill ourselves.

As for wading through all the mail, is everyone aware of the *Digest* format?
 Its great!  The server collects the day's mail into a file AND catalogs all
the mail subjects at the top with a count of each subject.  You can search
through the file with the *Find* function in a wordprocessor and read what
interests you in minutes, skipping all the rest.  Also, the file downloads
faster than all the individual messages.  To activate it send mail to
LISTSERV@AMERICAN.EDU with the messege SET 4AD-L DIGEST.

Blessed Be


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:16:16 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: galaxie 500


there was some talk on this list about a possible g500 boxed set coming out
later this year...any updates on that?  anyone know what label it would be
on so i can start harassing them?  i'd love to do a feature review of it or
something...

BiZ, who just found on fire for $8 yesterday...


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:46:00 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: detroit happenings, r.e.m., h.n.i.a., g.o.d.z.u.k.i.


On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, James L. Napiorkowski Jr. wrote:

> you are recognized?  hmmm, nothing I've ever read.  Fact is, I don't think
> anyone on this list (apart from yourself and Kelli) had even heard of your
> label prior to the release of the HNIA split 7".....  And I do keep up with
> alot more than just the noise about these parts, and never seen the name
> mentioned.

  noise isn't much of a hot topic for 4ad-l, don't ya think? it's more
  for the new music list {which i always seem to get unsubbed from after
  my e-mail freaks out once a year. anyone got the address/sub info handy?}
  besides, kool noise people with respect in the scene {not in any way
  am i referring to JUST the noisepop scene of michigan} dig jennifer wolski...

  this is all really quite petty. li'l labels exist all over the world, and
  i'll give snaps {yes, i own Clueless..wanna make somethin' of it? :smile:}
  to anyone who can get their shit together enough to start up their own
  label AND follow through with it. shaolin temple is doing pretty good
  for being {roughly} in infancy. most labels, if something were to actually
  happen for them, take a good number of years to hit their mark. time stereo
  is only truly hip because of the defever name. i'm not saying that in
  an antagonistic manner...so please don't think i'm trying to be a bitch
  and/or superdefensive of my grasshopper noisepal. but think about it.
  if no one knew that warren defever was involved with time stereo...
  absolutely no one, where would time stereo be today?

> first you say he's being devious, then you say you bought them to support
> timeSTEREO....hmmmm...to me it just sounds like you were perhaps just trying
> to get on their good side, just so that eventually you might put something
> of theirs on your lil label.   the rest of the list can form their own
> opinion (as I'm sure they will), but personally, instead of holding this
> little vendetta against Warren, I think you should get down and kiss his
> feet and thank him for giving you the recognition you did get from the
> 7"...yes, you ARE now known...thanks to Warren & Co.

  :frown:

> let's recap...   timeSTEREO (aka the Record Collector) sells your bands

  record collector existed before time stereo, so that probably should be
  the other way around... {ok, i'm being picky. i haven't had any
  caffeine in two days...it's starting to take a toll on my attitude...}

>  and yet you maintain that you support the label and their work (while
> calling it devious at the same time for example).  Some here on the list may
> say it's just character flaw, and some may say it seems hypocritic.  I just
> say I'm done wasting time on this thread...I'd rather be forced to watch
> hours of Gilligan's Island...

  well, i just wasted my time cutting out 75% of a note that should have
  been edited to begin with. :) there is support for the PAST, and then
  there is support for the FUTURE. grasshopper supported them in the past.
  i'm not so sure about the future....

  gilligan's island was a way kool show. but not as good as the brady bunch.

  this is all pointless. grasshopper isn't even on 4ad-l anymore... :)


  *k*

  ...there's nothing i wouldn't do for a cup of tea right now...


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