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Subject: Rachel's play the Rivoli
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:53:00 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: hello fellow depaulian
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:30:45 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: whoops!
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:09:39 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Mark Kozelek, Scenic
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:26:03 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Obmil Sunob Stuc
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:22:51 -0500
From: Mike Glader (glader@PRIMARY.NET)
Subject: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:25:24 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: the The covers?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:37:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ryan E Wick (rwick@osf1.gmu.edu)
Subject: Re: hello fellow depaulian
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:43:07 -0400
From: "it's me!" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:15:52 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: The Jive Bombers
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:54:39 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Rachel's tour
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:53:17 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rachel's play the Rivoli
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:50:19 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: The best autumn in years!
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:46:38 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Any computer specialists ?
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:49:23 -0500
From: Vlad Dashevski (vlad@FORMFILL.COM)
Subject: for trade ...
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:54:29 -0700
From: "Quinn Devine~" (qdevine@SEDONA.INTEL.COM)
Subject: DCD bootlegs
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:36:15 -0300
From: Leonid Kalmankin (LVK@NORTH.CS.MSU.SU)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:14:14 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:16:25 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:38:25 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: more 4AD 4AD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:04:39 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Any computer specialists ?
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:14:13 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:16:22 -0400
From: WhiteNoiseExpander (ebn@UMD.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:45:24 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Muses UK Tour
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:19:35 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: HNIA dates
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:11:06 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Cowbirds in The Field
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:56:08 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:17:29 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Lush Comp/Volume 16
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:28:17 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: lush
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:17:38 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Some Reviews
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:19:32 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Air [Re: Some Reviews]
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:00:29 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: lush
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:40:29 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:43:26 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Air Miami/Kim Deal/old Tarnation CD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:18:26 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:27:50 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:45:22 -0400
From: j*mes t*ylor (valis@CC.CVU.CSSD.K12.VT.US)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/Kim Deal/old Tarnation CD
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:13:27 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA dates
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:28:55 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: detroit happenings, r.e.m., h.n.i.a., g.o.d.z.u.k.i.
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:59:22 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:37:11 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:53:00 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Rachel's play the Rivoli


I'm not sure how many Toronto listies there are here
but some might be interested to know that Rachel's
are playing at the Rivoli tonight Monday Aug, 19.
$8 to get in and Snailhouse opens. Anyone going?
Not sure yet if I can (working overtime stuff), but I'm
going to try. Anyone have any reviews of this tour
for Sea and the Bell (I think that's the name of the
new cd).

Steve

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:30:45 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: hello fellow depaulian


At 11:44 PM 8/18/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Oscar
>
>   I just returned from NY yesterday, and I decided it was time for a
>subject change, so i took it upon myself to change it.  Like it?
very nice
  NY was
>cool, saw a lot of my friends, played my first live show (which blew blew
>blew), recorded a demo (more or less) and just played every day, which was
>really neat, but now that I'm away from playing all the time I'm kinda...i
>don't know....sad.  Did you know I was in a band?  Well, I yam.  It's called
>Aerodrome.  We used to be kinda slow and pretty sounding, but we just added
>a drummer ( a friend of ours) in NY and now we're kinda surfy sounding.  I
>think we created our own genre..."surf-goth" maybe?  I don't know.  It's me,
>my friend Beth, and new drummer Ben.  I'll play you a tape sometime, if you
>want to hear it.
No, I didn't know you were in a band.  You'll have to give me a tape sometime.

  Did you go see the Muses?  I didn't.  I had zero money, so
>i couldn't quite make it down to the city to see them.
I didn't go see them either. my roomate was sick and i was sort of
babysitting him.  I was lazy too, and didn't have anybody to go with (mainly).
 Are you going to see
>HNIA at Schuba's?
Yes, I am.

 I am, maybe I'll see you there?  Hopefully I'll get in.
I hope so too, for your sake.  Then I'll definitely see you there.

>I went to one rave when i was in Chicago and it was super lame.  First and
>maybe last, I think.  Maybe it was just a bad experience.  It was one of
>those warehouse rave's, and you couldn't leave till like 5 in the morning,
>so it was kind of stupid.
Well, I don't understand the 'COULDN'T leave til 5 am' bit, but the one I
went to was good music, but getting in sucked and there was nobody older
than us, like i told you.

 Hope all is well in da windy city...
It's the same

>
>quires tenir un tiempo bueno in el cuidad de wind...
That means (once I rearrange the spelling): 'want to have a good time in the
city of wind'  nice try though. Interestingly enough, the way you spelled
'city' means 'beware' or 'careful'.

>
>Ciao...
>
>Mateo
>
I'm currently listening to UVS while I have 120 Minutes in the background.
God that show blows.
buh-bye,
oteran
oteran@shrike.depaul.edu

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:09:39 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: whoops!


Whoops...sorry...didn't mean to send that to all the people on the list....


matt

Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 22:26:03 -0800
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Mark Kozelek, Scenic


Mark Kozelek appears on the new ep by San Francisco singer/songwriter
Hannah Marcus, "Demerol." Mark plays on and produces all four tracks, plus
adds backing vocals to two of them. Musically, sort of like Heidi Berry,
but without drums. Sorry if this is old news.

The new Scenic album is absolutely fantastic! Also has one of those
infamous "hidden extra tracks."

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t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
esoteric graphic design
                  tmp@earthlink.net
===================================


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:22:51 -0500
From: Mike Glader (glader@PRIMARY.NET)
Subject: Re: Obmil Sunob Stuc


Eukariah wrote:
>
> Robert Dunkin wrote:
> >
> > oh that sucks tht it's attached to shark.. sort of like the remix of dusted
> > attached to low red moon.. Id rather have it an extra track. oh well..
>
> there's are only 2 ways to "hide" a track without attaching it to another song

> It's pretty standard to tack it on to the last song.  If it had an id # it wou
dn't be
> hidden, and to get it away from the other songs, there has to be recorded sile
ce.
>
> The other way doesn't work on a lot a cd players what you do is put it before 
he
> start of track one.  To play it, the listener must start track one and then ba
k
> up/rewind to befoe the starting id.


There is another way to hide a track using the same principle.  I have
one CD (I can't remember which it is) that lists 36 tracks and a
unlisted song is on track 36, but there is another song hidden between
something like track 20 and 21.  If you skip thorugh the songs, it
starts at zero, so you don't relize that the song is there...
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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:25:24 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice


I just bought above CD in a bargain bin. On track 4 (Drive...), there are two "s
ratch"
sounds (as if a needle was dragged across a record). Are these intentional, or h
ve
I been ripped off? (I can exchange it for something else if this is the case). K
owing that
Warren Defever recorded this at his house, anything is possible (track 6 sounds 
ike
a hosepipe was turned on during recording). They just don't seem to fit into thi
 rather
quiet and gentle song.....

Help!

Chris


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 07:34:36 -0400
From: "it's me!" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: the The covers? (fwd)


I just got this from the ....ahem..... from the THETHE list. can
anyone confirm this?? how krazy if true....


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:37:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ryan E Wick (rwick@osf1.gmu.edu)
Subject: Re: the The covers?


Yeah I saw Dead Can Dance last month in DC and I can confirm that they're
playing Dolphins( which is more of a Tim Buckley song than a the The
song, after all He made it popular enough to influnce both groups). I
payed $30 for shitty seats and it was still worth it. For the The fans with a
taste for strange and wonderfully exotic music, I highly reccomend DCD.--Ryan


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:43:07 -0400
From: "it's me!" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: hello fellow depaulian


        speaking of HNIA at shubas, can somebody kindly
        repost the date for that, and if possible,
        the whole itinerary for hnia?


        i just got email from trey who says that he's
        playing at alvins in detroit september 20.
        i forgot to ask him if that was as velour100
        or as HNIA.

        also, i'll ask the list what i asked trey:
        track 10 on liquorice's "Listening Cap".
        is that a drum machine? if you havent already,
        GO BUY LISTENING CAP (that is, if you like hnia)!
        track 10 is the ultra-warrengoodies.  priceless,
        and even pricelesser if you have surround sound
        and a little doobage...

        dan k
        who also recommends a whack band called LUSTMORD


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:15:52 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice


Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:

> I just bought (Liquorice's "Listening Cap"). On track 4 (Drive...),
> there are two "scratch" sounds (as if a needle was dragged across a
> record). Are these intentional, or have I been ripped off? (I can
> exchange it for something else if this is the case). Knowing that
> Warren Defever recorded this at his house, anything is possible (track
> 6 sounds like a hosepipe was turned on during recording). They just
> don't seem to fit into this rather quiet and gentle song.....
>
> Help!
>
> Chris

Well, actually, I just sent an e mail to Rich at 4AD about this very
subject.  Here is the portion of the letter that explains it all...

****
I remember sending Jenny a letter asking for a Simple Machines catalog
before "Listening Cap" came out.  She sent me a catalog with a nice
little note attached.  Nice!  But then, out of the blue, one night she
called me at home!!  She talked with me for almost 20 minutes!  She's
very nice and explained lots about things with Liquorice, Tsunami and her
label.  I asked questions like: "Why is there a guitar "burp" near the
start of "Drive Around" - is it supposed to be there?" and she replied
****

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:54:39 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: The Jive Bombers


The Jive Bombers may have had a top 40 hit in 1957 but in 1996, they are
as popular as ever!!

Because I'm on constant 24 hour Jive Bombers alert, I was able to find
these two fun items while surfing yesterday.  This first one is from the
Bantam site.  It features The Jive Bombers mentioned within the context
of some allegedy true story.  But, is it the same band 4AD is involved
with or what???

Farewell To Manzanar
By Jeanne Wakatsuki Houston
and James D. Houston
Bantam Starfire

Jeanne Wakatsuki was seven years old in 1942 when her family was uprooted
from their home and  sent to live at Manzanar internment camp--with
10,000 other Japanese Americans. Along with searchlight towers and armed
guards, Manzanar ludicrously featured cheerleaders, Boy Scouts, sock
hops, baton twirling lessons and a dance band called The Jive Bombers who
would play any popular song except the nation's #1 hit: "Don't Fence Me
In."  Farewell To Manzanar is the true story of one spirited Japanese
American family's attempt to survive the indignities of forced detention
...and of a native-born American child who discovered what it was like to
grow up behind barbed wire in the United States.

??

This next Jive Bombers factoid was taken from the entertainment section
of some Australian newspaper's web site.  Perhaps an Aussie lister can
verify this one...  This post is dated from June 21st of THIS YEAR from a
listing of upcoming concerts in the Sydney area.  Who did I find included
in this list???  Why, The Jive Bombers, of course!

METRO on MUSIC
Friday, June 21, 1996

INSTANT KARMA Hogs Breath Saloon, Westfield, Tuggerah, 7.30-10.30pm.
INSURGE (politico rock) Jolly Frog Inn, Windsor, 9pm-1am, $7.
JELLYBEAN JAM (popular fun rock) Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel, 8-11.30pm.
THE JIVE BOMBERS Sydney Harbour Casino, Darling Harbour, 11.30pm-2.30am.
THE JIVE KINGS Redfern RSL Club, 7-11pm.

While I guess I can live without seeing Jellybean Jam's brand of popular
fun rock at the Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel, I was kinda sad at missing The
Jive Bombers at the Sydney Harbour Casino during their THREE HOUR show.

Watch out for 4AD's release of the "Bad Boy" album from The Jive Bombers
sometime in 1997, right after the limited edition Brendan Perry box set
comes out.  Jive Bombers fans of the world unite!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:53:17 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Rachel's tour


     8/18: Cleveland, Speak In Tongues
     8/19: Toronto, tba
     8/20: Ottowa, tba
     8/21: Detroit, Magic Stick
     8/22: Kalamazoo, Club Soda
     8/23: Chicago, Lounge Ax (w/ Lois)
     8/24: Green Bay, tba (w/ Lois)
     8/25: Minneapolis, Bryant Lake Bowl
     8/27: Lawrence KS, Granada Theatre
     8/28: St. Louis, Cicero's
     8/29: Rock Island IL, tba
     8/30: Champaign IL, tba
     8/31: Louisville, tba

Take this with a grain of salt, as it isn't all inclusive (for instance,
they are going to be in Kansas City on the 26th--I already bought
tickets, which are quite nice BTW).

from http://www.iglou.com/planet/rachels/textonly.html#performance


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:50:19 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rachel's play the Rivoli


Steven Venn wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how many Toronto listies there are here
> but some might be interested to know that Rachel's
> are playing at the Rivoli tonight Monday Aug, 19.
> $8 to get in and Snailhouse opens. Anyone going?
> Not sure yet if I can (working overtime stuff), but I'm
> going to try. Anyone have any reviews of this tour
> for Sea and the Bell (I think that's the name of the
> new cd).
>
> Steve

Well, I haven't seen them yet (they're coming to KCMO on the 26th), but
I did hear some of the new material. It was straight ahead Rachel's.  No
Big surprises.  I don't think that this current tour is necessarily in
support of _The Sea and the Bells_, however.  It sounds like they are
going to do a more extensive tour later.  I am kind of expecting them to
perform some stuff we might all be familiar with from the first two
albums (and hopefully that Lounge Ax track).
--gary

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:46:38 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: The best autumn in years!


> Can you say "Yaaaay!"?

Yaaaay!!!!!!!!

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:49:23 -0500
From: Vlad Dashevski (vlad@FORMFILL.COM)
Subject: Re: Any computer specialists ?


At 06:59 PM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Can anybody tell me how to transcript the lyrics of a CD with Windows 95?
>
>Um, type "WIN" at the C:\ prompt?
>
>Oops, sorry, wrong joke.
>
>
>
>hk
>
>
Or maybe try "format c:" at the same prompt... :)

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:54:29 -0700
From: "Quinn Devine~" (qdevine@SEDONA.INTEL.COM)
Subject: for trade ...


I have the Shelleyann Orphan promo "waking up" and
Belly's Sun EP for trade.

please email me if interested in a trade - i'm looking
for stuff by Area, and some kinda rare things from
Drugstore and the Cardigans.

thanks,
Quinn
qdevine@sedona.intel.com


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:36:15 -0300
From: Leonid Kalmankin (LVK@NORTH.CS.MSU.SU)
Subject: DCD bootlegs


      Hello, everyone!
  I'm going to create unofficial DCD homepage, mainly because of lack
of bootleg info. on the official page. I know that bootleg section
was removed from it some time ago because of Brendan Perry's request,
but i think he's wrong here.
  The problem is that i have only 3 BLs ("Europe 1987", "Mystical
Rain" and "Hidden Treasures").
  So if you have any bootlegs, please, send me info about them.

LVK@north.cs.msu.su

PS. If you have any interesting DCD-related information, send it too.

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:14:14 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice


welcome to the wonderful world of Warren Defever.  For future refrence.  CD
doess make sounds like that whem they skip

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:16:25 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice


I am going to reply to that again because that was the first thing I did in
the morning aand now it looks as though I was on crack when I wrote it.  Yes
Warren put those there on purpose and CDs do NOT sound like that when they
skip or distort.
Thanks


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:38:25 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD


Okay, Here is the update.  SInce the 4AD site does not offer much of this
info (while it is being reconfigured)  I will spread the news. I apologize if
it is too US-centric

LUSH-just started Tour Dates in the US with bands as diverse as Imperial
Teen, Muzzle, Gin Blossoms, Goo Goo Dolls, etc.  The next single is "Ciao".
Finally a chance for bothe LUSH and Pulp to breakk in the states.

HEIDI BERRY-record to be released on 9/10. Heidi will tour as much as
possible.  She may not make it to the US until January

THROWING MUSES-Catch them on tour now, because the bigger Kristin gets the
harder it will be to tour. 7" and singles available.  From some huge and
pessimistic MUSES fans I have heard that the tour is absolutely fantastic.
 Bernie, David, and Kristin are definitely grooving like never before.  I may
be a little biased but this is one of the best bands in the world.  The
Eropean tour starts in the middle of the Sept.  They will proabably bring an
american band across with them to tour.

LISA GERMANO-album out 9/10. Check out review in Rolling Stone.  Small Heads
is the first single.  I love a Snot is the second.  October tour with Mojave
3.

GUS GUS-"Polyesterday"  An unusual collective of musicaians, artists,
filmmakers, etc.   From Iceland they have a decidedly different viewpoint.
 Be on the lookout for more 12" singles at the clubs.  They

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:04:39 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: more 4AD 4AD


The Gus Gus full-length will not be out until March 17th (or so).

Paladins-9/24  Playing various dates all over the world.  Antwerp 9/7.  LA
10/8. and many more.  Dave Gonzalez is probably the best guitarist that 4AD
has seen yet.  They will tour extensively during the fall.

HNIA- The US tour begins in  just a few days.  Tour dates have already been
posted.  They will tour Europe again.

Mojave 3- touring Europe with Lisa Germano.  They are presently sound
proofing the Barn.  A bunch of the members have moved out to the country to
work on the new record.  Neal has already wrote a number of songs.  M3
showcased some of the new songs on the Shaving The Pavement tour.  "Been
Trying to reach you" is a personal fave.

Pixies- probably won't be out for another year.  Discussions progressed and
everyone came to the agreement that what we were doing was not quite good
enough.  Thus when it finally comes out it better be good.

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:14:13 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Any computer specialists ?


StephaneSommet@Creme Brulee asked the poser:
>Can anybody tell me how to transcript the lyrics of a CD with Windows 95?

The only lyrics on the Win95 CD that I know of would be to the hidden
.WAV file of Bill Gates singing "Sympathy For the Devil" in his annoying
nasal off-key voice. (You can have this file installed in place of the
usual Brian-Eno-composed startup sound by holding down some weird
combination of keys during the install process.)
I don't think there are any lyrics available on the CD itself, but any
Rolling Stones songbook should have the lyrics to that song.

[Personal to R. Dunkin: Oops, was I over-intellectualizing? Sorry, I'll
go listen to some Jerky Boys until I feel properly stoopid again. They
maybe I'll post some pointless one-line replies to messages. Coooool.]

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:16:22 -0400
From: WhiteNoiseExpander (ebn@UMD.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Help on Listening Cap - Liquorice


On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:

> I just bought above CD in a bargain bin. On track 4 (Drive...), there are two 
scratch"
> sounds (as if a needle was dragged across a record). Are these intentional, or
have
> I been ripped off? (I can exchange it for something else if this is the case).
Knowing that
> Warren Defever recorded this at his house, anything is possible (track 6 sound
 like
> a hosepipe was turned on during recording). They just don't seem to fit into t
is rather
> quiet and gentle song.....
>
> Help!
>
> Chris
>

It's just a given that anytime you buy a lot of things that have Warren
Defever on them you will get various sound blips that don't fit the
general mood of the recording, or something completely different that
what you expected. When my label released the Melody Farms EP with His
Name Is Alive/Little PRincess, I was expecting something semi relaxed
with female vocals, but as any of you who might have the 7" know: That's
not how it is at all? In all actuality, it sounds like instrumental Elvis
Hitler and then towards the end incorporates more lo-fi noise for a brief
moment. As Warren and I both agree, there's nothing better than changing
the albums you release as much as you can just to keep things original
and keep your creativity high....

grasshopper

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:45:24 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD


>
>THROWING MUSES-Catch them on tour now, because the bigger Kristin gets the
>harder it will be to tour. 7" and singles available.  From some huge and
>pessimistic MUSES fans I have heard that the tour is absolutely fantastic.
> Bernie, David, and Kristin are definitely grooving like never before.  I may
>be a little biased but this is one of the best bands in the world.  The
>Eropean tour starts in the middle of the Sept.  They will proabably bring an
>american band across with them to tour.

I've heard that the 'american' band may be Versus...

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:19:35 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Muses UK Tour


I managed to get tickets today for the Muses Manchester date (Monday Sept 16th).
I don't know where or when else they are playing. Anybody?

Also RHP are playing the same venue on Wednesday 11th, although Piccadilly Box
Office haven't actually got tickets yet.

- Dez


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:11:06 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: HNIA dates


Since I had to search a while for HINA dates, I'm posting
them from the 4AD web site:

          21 Cambridge at the Middle East Upstairs
          22 Hoboken at Maxwells
          23 New York at Fez
          24 Philadelphia at Khyber Pass Pub
          25 Washington DC at the Black Cat
          27 Atlanta at Smith's Olde Bar
          29 Austin at the Cactus Cafe
          30 Houston at the Urban Art Bar
          31 Dallas at Poor David's Pub

          03 Tempe at Stink Weeds
          04 San Diego at The Casbah
          05 Los Angeles at Lunapark
          06 Los Angeles at Lunapark
          07 San Francisco at The Kilowatt
          09 Portland at Umbra Penumbra
          10 Seattle at The Tractor Tavern
          13 Minneapolis at Bryant Lake Bowl
          14 Chicago at Schubas


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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:56:08 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Cowbirds in The Field


Ralf posted this at the Throwing Music forum:

As people asked re Limbo artwork...  In the UK initial copies of Limbo
are being sold with the original A2 sized 4AD promo poster and a plastic
carrier bag with Limbo design.  Unfortunately the poster is folded but
that's still better than nothing, isn't it?  This offer is ONLY available
at Chain With No Name stores.

Thanks, Ralf!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:17:29 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD 4AD


Rich wrote:

>LUSH-just started Tour Dates in the US with bands as diverse as Imperial
>Teen, Muzzle, Gin Blossoms, Goo Goo Dolls, etc.  The next single is "Ciao".

Please tell me/us is this a US promo only thing or going to be a UK single
as well ('Ciao!' was already released as a 1-track promo CD in the UK, isn't
it?)


>GUS GUS-"Polyesterday"  An unusual collective of musicians, artists,
>filmmakers, etc.   From Iceland they have a decidedly different viewpoint.
> Be on the lookout for more 12" singles at the clubs.

Oh no, not another bunch of those DJ/Club 12"s!! My life has been sheer hell
for months (well, not really), while I was trying to track down those TWP 4
and TWP 5 12"! And I'm also still looking for the GUS 1 12". Anyone?

Frank
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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frankbri@pi.net
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:28:17 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Lush Comp/Volume 16


Just picked up volume 16 which has Half and Half if its needed.

Alex
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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:17:38 -0500
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: lush


umm...a local used store has a copy of "kaleidoscopic harmonies" or
something like that by lush for $20.  it appears to be some sort of bootleg
or something...anybody want it?  i'll pick it up for ya if you reimburse me
for cost of the cd plus postage...

also, anyone trying to reach me via private mail should use this e-mail
address as i am not currently using my aol account...

bye,

BiZ

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:19:32 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Some Reviews


Sebadoh - Harmacy (Domino)
        Eagerly awaited, and no disappointment either. Both live and on record,
Sebadoh could veer from the inspirational to the forgettable with alarming ease.
Bakesale changed all that, and although Harmacy is more a consolidation than a
major leap forward, it's still a cracking record. Interestingly, Jason has more
songs than Lou for the first time - maybe the legendarily prolific Barlow muse
is running a little low. This may have been a problem around the time of Bubble
And Scrape, but Jason's long since proved himself a more than capable writer.
After a couple of listens it's hard to pick out any particular highlights - the
whole thing is of a consistently high standard. Can't wait to see them again -
it's been a while. The last time was the night Kurt Cobain died - a show that,
spookily, they only played because the Nirvana tour had been cancelled.

Air - Modulator (Mo Wax)
        It's been a quiet summer for James Lavelle's brilliantly eclectic, and
consistently superb imprint. This is all about to change with releases in the
pipeline from Innerzone, Andrea Parker, Dr Octagon and, of course, the mighty
Shadow. First out of the traps is this three mix offering from Air (of whom I
know nothing). It's a breezy, mellow drum and bass thing - perfect for
sweltering summer evenings, with a great hip hop/rap mix by DJ Case tacked on
the end.

Palmskin - Condition Red (Hut)
        Former Mo Wax mainstays Palmskin's debut release for their new label is 

four track ep of spacy hip hop, and furious drum and bass. Condition Red itself
has a thunderous echoey beat, and Up And Down is more of the same only mellower.
Beats Of Burden is a slow drum and bass thing with pretty minimal adornment,
whilst Accepted Weekly Draw is a real jungle headrush. Excellent stuff.

Finally, UK copies of Limbo in the shops come with a poster and a rather nice
carrier bag. Not through Mail Order they don't though - are you listening down
in Alma Road?

- Dez


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:00:29 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Air [Re: Some Reviews]


>Air - Modulator (Mo Wax)

Isn't "Air" one of Pete Namlook's many aliases? I know he has releases on
Fax (seriously ambient whooshy stuff) under the names "Air" and "Air 2".
Or are those the CD titles with the artist being implicitly Pete Namlook
even though he's not mentioned on the sleeve?
  And then of course there's the totally unrelated Air Liquide. Sounds
like somebody needs to come up with a more creative name...

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:40:29 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: lush


Hey! Ive been looking for that live disc for a while, Id love to purchase it
from you... Write me back!!!

Rob
Rdunkin@eden.rutgers.edu

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:43:26 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews


WHy does the UK get all these great things with discs.. (im referring to the
throwing muses Limbo poster and bag..) Throwing Muses isnt even british. It's
such rubbish if you ask me

A very angry person from the states.

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:18:26 -0400
From: Bob (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Air Miami/Kim Deal/old Tarnation CD


I was just wondering what Air Miami and Kim Deal were up to.  Are Air Miami
totally off 4AD now?  Are the Breeders split for sure?  When is that Air
Miami EP coming out?  Oh, and is Tarnation's first CD "I'll Give You
Something To Cry About" still available and where do I get it and is it
worth buying?  ummmm....okay...that's all the questions for now...


thanks,
matt


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:27:50 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews


Dez wrote:

> Finally, UK copies of Limbo in the shops come with a poster and a
> rather nice carrier bag. Not through Mail Order they don't though - are
> you listening down in Alma Road?

This is just another ploy by 4AD to keep the diehard fans frustrated and
just at arms reach so that it will bother them enough to come back for
more product later in the vein hope of getting a cool rare item.

4AD really goofed by giving the poster/carrier bag to only CWNN stores!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:45:22 -0400
From: j*mes t*ylor (valis@CC.CVU.CSSD.K12.VT.US)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews


On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Robert Dunkin wrote:

> WHy does the UK get all these great things with discs.. (im referring to the
> throwing muses Limbo poster and bag..) Throwing Muses isnt even british. It's
> such rubbish if you ask me
>
> A very angry person from the states.
>

 Yeah, but our (ryko) version of limbo has this cool (albeit
corrupt and unusable on my copy) video track. Whooeee! 

Anybody else had trouble with the video track ?

Also, I have the US/Ryko version of Limbo and the 4ad Shark EP, is there
any reason (other than collector value) for me to run out and get the
Ruthies Knocking single ?

late folks, jt

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:13:27 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Air Miami/Kim Deal/old Tarnation CD


Mark Robinson said the Air Miami ep will be out sometime in September...on
Teen Beat only.


Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:28:55 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: HNIA dates


At 09:11 PM 19/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Since I had to search a while for HINA dates, I'm posting
>them from the 4AD web site:
>
>          21 Cambridge at the Middle East Upstairs
>          22 Hoboken at Maxwells
>          23 New York at Fez
>          24 Philadelphia at Khyber Pass Pub
>          25 Washington DC at the Black Cat
>          27 Atlanta at Smith's Olde Bar
>          29 Austin at the Cactus Cafe
>          30 Houston at the Urban Art Bar
>          31 Dallas at Poor David's Pub
>
>          03 Tempe at Stink Weeds
>          04 San Diego at The Casbah
>          05 Los Angeles at Lunapark
>          06 Los Angeles at Lunapark
>          07 San Francisco at The Kilowatt
>          09 Portland at Umbra Penumbra
>          10 Seattle at The Tractor Tavern
>          13 Minneapolis at Bryant Lake Bowl
>          14 Chicago at Schubas
>
>
>|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
>| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
>| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
>| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
>

there will also be a 'final' tour performance here in the Detroit area yet
to be scheduled.

tentatively it will be held at Alvin's downtown Detroit appearing with Low.

~   quis


Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:59:22 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: detroit happenings, r.e.m., h.n.i.a., g.o.d.z.u.k.i.


At 06:05 PM 17/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>well first off the guy featured with karen and warren in the alternative
>press interview of his name is alive is the dude from godzuki. he plays
>bass for warren's noise camp, helps out on bass at hnia live shows and
>also has a pretty nice compact disc out. godzuki is pretty nice. noisy,
>but melodic.

his name is Dion Fischer...a really likeable chap.   awesome side project
with Wade known as "The OHMS"....science-noise stuff (really good! honest!)
get their first tape via timeSTEREO

>
>wdiv (channel four, nbc) here in detroit is now using michael brook's
>"ultramarine" before there newscasts. i guess this makes up for their
>online mistake about his name is alive. when the brothers quay short films
>came to the detroit institute of arts film theatre, they said that the
>quays show will feature london's his name is alive. they didn't even know
>muzik from their own backyard.

I know the Free Press made this mistake...still have the clipping
somewhere's...didn't know it made it to local news TV though..


other related news...

His Name Is Alive begin their tour this week of course.  Godzuki and Davin
will be joining them for the first week only!  After which they head back to
Detroit (due to job commitments and schedules etc)  Whilest Warren is out of
town though, Look for a Godzuki puppet-show here in Detroit.  Not sure who's
taking over for Godzuki as opening act on the rest of the tour....

As I stated in another post...HNIA will have a yet-to-be-announced show at
Alvin's toward the later part of September (possibly with Low).

Speaking with Davin the other day...he mentioned that they were tooling
around the idea of hauling along a dubbing machine on the tour to tape the
events, make a ton of copies, then sell them at the next cities show the
next night....nothing definite on that though.

Sadly, no one thinks the whale will make it to the tour shows....  he's
about had enough abuse!

timeSTEREO happenings...

~there has been talk of another CD release for quite sometime (possibly the
ESP-Beetles), but with everyone busy right now with tours and such, probably
not until after the New Year.
~ limited edition of 50 each of HNIA Universal Frequencies 7" and CD ep with
timeSTEREO artwork....  fax Davin for info (wait until next week as he is on
the tour for a week)
~ Davin does prefer to hear from everyone via fax, and not the e-mail
address I posted awhile ago as the e-mail is routed through the owner of the
store and not Davin directly, so he asked to pass along that fax is the
prefered method....
~  Zoot's downtown Detroit is having a continuing art display through
September featuring some of Davin's (timeSTEREO posters) handiwork...stop by
if you get the chance....another show to follow in September at a book store
(sorry forgot the name and location at the moment)

actually, I'm forgetting alot of things right now, I'm so tired...but if I
happen to remeber anything really important, I'll pass it along!

joy

~   quis

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:37:11 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Some Reviews


 Does the Ruthie's Knocking video have sound? Cuz i couldnt get the sound to
work on my friends computer. I dont have a cd player on my cpmputer. Is
ruthie's knocking a 4ad single? Also, what are the Bsides on Shark?