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Subject: Lush
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:11:43 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Fey Faye
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:20:28 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD 1996/Lush/Biggest-selling 4AD Release
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 06:36:07 -0400
From: tetto apribile (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Crossing Border (Throwing Muses)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 15:46:51 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Take That sign to 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:56:12 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: subscribe
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:08:54 -0400
From: TWeibre361@AOL.COM
Subject: The Paladins
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:01:47 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Liquorice
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:18:14 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 4 American Dream
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:41:35 +0200
From: Say Cheese (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:59:46 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: quit
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:03:13 -0400
From: Larry Gherardi (gherardi@NEWSDAY.COM)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:12:11 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:47:26 -0400
From: "it's me!" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Collection d'Arnell Andrea
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:54:47 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:06:56 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Perfume Tree
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:54:53 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:01:47 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:30:37 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau chat room
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:42:29 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Perfume Tree
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:38:14 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:51:14 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:19:13 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:25:54 PDT
From: Christopher Winfield (winfield@MATH.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:58:05 -0700
From: "C. Kemnitz" (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:22:41 -0400
From: j*mes t*ylor (valis@CC.CVU.CSSD.K12.VT.US)
Subject: discontinue subscription
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:44:59 -0600
From: Roy White (rwhite@MAIL.AROS.NET)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 15:53:39 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:32:36 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: discontinue subscription
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:04:11 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:06:22 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: How to unsubscribe (FAQ announcement)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:52:36 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:05:24 -0400
From: Eukariah (regeana@MINDSPRING.COM)
Subject: Looking For Traders/Collectors Of That Dog
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:22:59 -0700
From: Will Bryant (willb26@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: FS: Slowdive.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:49:28 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: bored
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:19:04 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:11:43 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Lush


Lush appeared in Toronto on August 15th at the Phoenix with opening act
Thrush Hermit.  The concert was originally placed at a different venue
but when it became clear the first venue was going to be too small for
the large number of ticket buyers, the show was moved to the larger
Phoenix club in the heart of beautiful downtown Toronto.

I arrived shortly after Thrush Hermit started playing.  Around thirty
minutes before showtime I noticed a girl with bright red hair standing in
the crowd watching the opening act.  Was it merely a Miki-copycat or
what?  Several fans talked briefly with her so I decided to investigate.
It turns out it was in fact Miki!  Luckily I had a pen and a Lush album
ready for signing, which Miki was happy to adorn with her sig.  Thanks,
Miki!!  You're super nice to take the time to do this!

Due to the Phoenix club having a previously scheduled in-house thing
going on later that same night, the Lush show was somewhat compacted.
The set featured a cavalcade of Lush hits from past and present.
Highlights include "Sweetness And Light", "Last Night", "Desire Lines"
and the new single "500 (Shake Baby Shake)".  During the encore they even
played "Demystification" to the delight of the fan that yelped for it.

Miki commented on the real tall guy standing in the crowd near the stage.
"You're the guy I always end up behind at gigs", she said.  She also made
reference to this guy right up front by the stage who was "there so he
could get crushed by all those girls' bodies.  Yeah, I know you guys!".
She also said she could play for another three hours but that we wouldn't
be cheering by the third hour.  If only the venue would let Lush play for
that long!  The show ended up lasting around 75 minutes...

The band was in top form tonight.  Miki's voice was rich and strong and
Emma's guitar work was brilliant as per usual.  Chris threw out his
sticks after the show to two lucky fans.  I love how Emma knew exactly
when to back up out of the way of the blast of dry ice which would have
engulfed her in a thick fog for several seconds or more.

I watched their "interview" on Much Music prior to the gig and learned
Miki and Emma checked out the Star Trek convention display earlier that
afternoon "for something to do".  They played the nifty new "500" video
as well as the vid for "Ladykillers".

I will not mention that during the first few songs Miki's guitar rested
on her skirt, hitching it up as she bounced around and that she was
wearing black undies.  That would be wrong.  So I will not mention it.
Yet another triumph for Lush, a band with a truly fine collection of
songs and the energy and genuine love for what they do to pull it off.

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:20:28 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Fey Faye


As promised, we now have the Random Thinking CD available.
This is the one that has Cocteau covers Bluebeard and
Know Who You Are At Every Age, plus the Cranberries
cover Dreams. It's a good album, but I must admit that
it pales a little in comparison to the more
Cocteaus than Cocteaus sound of Impatience.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 06:36:07 -0400
From: tetto apribile (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD 1996/Lush/Biggest-selling 4AD Release


>> 4AD ?:
>>
>> BRENDAN PERRY
>>
>> TAKE THAT
>
>My goodness, Take That?!?!?

No, Jeff. Emiel's not serious. That's what we in the business call a 'joke'.
Besides, everyone knows TT have split up.

I saw Lush on TV yesterday and Emma appeared not to be wearing any makeup -
yikes! Then they showed the video for 500 (wow, is that song ever cloying)
and with all the soft focus, Miki looked vaguely like Angela from MSCL at
times. Weird.

>Sept. 96 issue of A.P. (the one with the lovely photo of
>Lisa & Brendan on cover)

I don't know about that...Brendan looks distinctly rumpled there...


Larry


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 15:46:51 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Crossing Border (Throwing Muses)


If you're planning a trip to the Netherlands;

Throwing Muses will one concert this year over here at the "Crossing
Border" festival in the Hague (five day event). They will headlining
friday, September 13th. Also on the same day: Vic Chesnutt, Morcheeba,
Drugstore, Gitbox, Mizpah and more.



Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 16, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:56:12 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Take That sign to 4AD


Tetto,

So, you mean Emiel was just kidding about 4AD signing Take That?  Oh.
Wheeewww!  He really had me going there!  I even believed 4AD signed the
fat girl from Wilson Philips!!  Gosh, I'm so easily led...

> and with all the soft focus, Miki looked vaguely like Angela from MSCL
> at times. Weird.

...and speaking of "My So-Called Life":  Claire Danes (Angela) is a great
actress and the series, all 19 episodes, are TV at its best.  The series
soundtrack is cool as well, featuring Buffalo Tom, Madder Rose, Frente!,
Afgahn Whigs and a truly wonderful ballad from Juliana Hatfield.  Her
duets with Tanya Donelly on the "Saturday Morning Cartoons' Greatest
Hits" and "Hot Burrito # 1" on the "Gepetto" EP are simply wonderful...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:08:54 -0400
From: TWeibre361@AOL.COM
Subject: subscribe


how do i get on this listing?

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:01:47 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: The Paladins


Is this the same Paladins to sign to 4AD?

The Paladins
Home Base: San Diego
Years Performing: 12

You're familiar with Charlemagne? King of France? Holy Roman Emperor?
Well, the king kept an entourage of 12 legendary knights, called
"paladins," who were to be "determined advocates of a noble cause,"
namely, the advancement of the big guy and his territory. The Paladins
from San Diego answer to no man, but they are certainly determined,
playing some 200 road dates a year, and their cause is surely noble --
they deliver sweaty roadhouse blues, expressed in roots-rock songs about
girls and cars, the eternal verities of American pop music.

Singer and guitarist Dave Gonzalez, who has often been compared to Stevie
Ray Vaughan, formed the band in the '70s with his high school pal,
stand-up and electric bass player Tom Yearsley. Primarily a rockabilly
outfit in their early days, the Paladins' exuberant live shows quickly
gained them a loyal following in Southern California. As they expanded
their range of styles to include the blues, swing and R&B, the Paladins
began collaborating with L.A. artists like the Blasters, X and Los Lobos,
as well as with Kim Wilson of the Fabulous Thunderbirds. For Ticket Home,
Gonzalez and Yearsley have added drummer Jeff Donavan, formerly of the
Dwight Yoakam band, to the mix.  From the Stevie Ray-style "One Step" to
the rootsy title track to the tender "Comfort You," Ticket Home is the
work of seasoned vets who've retained the energy of young pups.

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:18:14 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Liquorice


In addition to that Liquorice EP "Stalls" (SM 38) featuring a great
A-side, the record also features a warped version of The Pretenders'
"Talk Of The Town" retitled to be "Squawk Of The Town".  Also worth
picking up is that "Red Hot + Bothered" album (45983-2) which features
"Little League" from Liquorice in addition to Lisa Germano's formerly
promo-only "The Mirror Is Gone" and Freedom Cruise who are made up of Kim
and Kelley Deal plus the boys from Guided By Voices.  The "Stalls" EP and
"Little League" were both "recorded" by Warren Defever as well...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
redshift@interlog.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:41:35 +0200
From: Say Cheese (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: 4 American Dream


Look what I found:


=bluestars&slogan=Ivo+for+President%3A++Restoring+the+American+Dream&color=white


It's a long URL but it's worth it!


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 16, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:59:46 -0400
From: John Porter (jporter@BTG.COM)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream


Emiel, You are one sick puppy!

--
John Porter
jporter@btg.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:03:13 -0400
From: Larry Gherardi (gherardi@NEWSDAY.COM)
Subject: quit


To Whom It May Concern.

This list is sending mail to a non existant mail account at this site.
The account is quit@newsday.com.
Please remove this address from your list.

Thank You
Larry Gherardi
postmaster for newsday.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:12:11 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream


>Emiel, You are one sick puppy!

>perhaps, being a citizen of a democracy, Emile thinks that american politics ar
 laughable.


Not the politics, but the elections are laughable (and scaring)

I mean, this Dole-site, the interactive Clinton Calender and the poster-making-t
ing (make your own at: http://www.dole96.com/interactive/poster) is a joke right


US elections is TV entertainment, millions of dollars spend on meaningless event
... but the job they're hunting for is very serious.

BTW I've watched Dole's speech last night (4.00 AM) and the people who surround 
im... as an outsider I can't believe what I saw! Lets see what the other guy has
to say at the end of this month...




Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 16, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:47:26 -0400
From: "it's me!" (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream


On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Say Cheese wrote:
>
> Look what I found:
>
>
> http://www.dole96.com/interactive/poster/poster.cgi?name=4AD&face=liberty&bg
> =bluestars&slogan=Ivo+for+President%3A++Restoring+the+American+Dream&color=whi
e
>
>
> It's a long URL but it's worth it!
>


        we've been too long american dreaming

                i think we've all
                   lost the waaaay


        bob dole is wandering around somnambulant, in the dark
        of medeval, supplyside evil. he wants you to come along
        for the ride. or rather, wants you to be the mortar,
        the building bricks, and the clay with which he and his
        kkkhristian kkkoalition want to build the new world order.


        i think 4ad would probably think this use of their corporate
        trade mark improper.


        perhaps, being a citizen of a democracy, Emile thinks
        that american politics are laughable.  How nice it
        would be to laugh along with him: but being an
        american, i just get heartburn


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:54:47 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Collection d'Arnell Andrea


The brief mention of this decidedly thislisty band prompted me to get off
my arse and order the rest of their back catalogue from the friendly folks
at Ear/Rational.  (http://www.xmission.com/~ear)

E/R lists four releases: Au Val des Roses, Les Marrioniers,
An Automine a Leroy, and Villers-aux-Venis.

Villers-aux-Venis is superb.  Imagine Annelli Drecker fronting the 80's
Banshees on a French-language WWI trench warfare concept album.  It
vies with Portishead as my favorite CD from 1994.

My only clue as to the relative merit of the preceeding albums is that
Villers was described here as being more texturally varied...

I'd welcome news of subsequent releases...

d s roy

And the inevitable disgressions:
Touching From a Distance - overpriced Ian Curtis bio, a self-victimizer...
Sambatiki - overpriced as negligible DCD singles go.
Brian Eno's "A Year with Swollen Appendices" - pithy, memorable, and funny
  and Salman Rushdie still rocks my world...


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:06:56 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD


> Afgahn Whigs and a truly wonderful ballad from Juliana Hatfield.  Her
> duets with Tanya Donelly on the "Saturday Morning Cartoons' Greatest
> Hits" and "Hot Burrito # 1" on the "Gepetto" EP are simply wonderful...

Hot Burrito #1?  There's a Dinosaur Jr. song called Hot Burrito #2 with
Matt Dillon on backing vocals (screaming).  Weird.

aaron

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:54:53 -0500
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Perfume Tree


Another thislisty band alert:

Perfume Tree's "A Lifetime Away" was just licenced to and rereleased by
World Domination (US), which should make it considerably easier to track
down outside of their Vancouver home.=20

Their previous outing "The Suns Running Out" (Zulu records), featured
pristine female vocals tracing slow, vaguely Celtic melodies over resonan=
t
bass, guitar textures shoegazey and/or reggaefied, and hip-hop rhythms,
the whole miasma enhanced by dubby production.  Triangulation points migh=
t
include Sinead O'Connor's "I am stretched on your grave", Gala-period
Lush, and TWP's "Birdwood Cage".  Very sexy, as "etherial" albums go.=20

"A Lifetime Away" begins on the Seefeel tip, organically combining even
deeper bass, multi-tracked and jigsaw-sampled to beautiful effect vocals,
and a guitar drone like a flanged harmonium.  Another Lush tribute/
improvement follows, then a visit to Tricky-land, a nearly accoustic
celtic dirge, something to grind hips to, a worrysome track with FSOL
styled percussion...it goes on and on with no trace of filler.  To the
above antecedents I could add Delerium's "Flowers Become Screens" and Jah
Wobble's comeback albums (sans Jah=D5s non-voice), but the whole is prett=
y
durned organic.  It will rank high on my year-end best of 96 list...=20

d s roy

Still coming to terms with "Nearly God".

"Of course God has gone now, which is why artists=20
 get paid so much more than they used to"

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:01:47 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: 4 American Dream


>Look what I found:
>=bluestars&slogan=Ivo+for+President%3A++Restoring+the+American+Dream&color=whit
>It's a long URL but it's worth it!

Ondertussen zit je natuurlijk gewoon op je TRR Ltd. te wachten. Wat een
stelletje klootzakken daar in London!!!

Je had kritiek op Dole, maar hoorde je hem gisteren het Amerikaanse volk
zeggen dat als hij aan de macht kwam hij er persoonlijk voor zou zorgen dat
men deluxe ltd. editions van V23 boeken, catalogi etc. OP TIJD zal krijgen!
Ja, daar heeft de Clinton regering natuurlijk mooi een steek laten vallen.
Als ik in de USA zou wonen zou ik het wel weten, VOTE BOB!

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Records & CDs for trade & wanted:
www.pi.net/~frankbri/trade.html
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:30:37 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD


I agree.. My so called life was great. I was so depressed about the
cancellation. But that is quite okay.. UI just pretend it's really a 19 hour
movie!


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:42:29 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau chat room


The Cocteau Twins chat room has had very little use
as of late. What usually happens is someone will go there,
find that they're the only person there, say something
clever, and leave. We can do better than that certainly!
So what I'd propose is setting up some time where a bunch
of us go there and chat away. Who knows, it might even be fun.
So what I'm going to do is check in every hour from noon to 5pm
California time today (Friday). Maybe I'll meet some of you there.

www.cocteautwins.com/Chat/

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:38:14 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Perfume Tree

              of Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:54:53 -0500

>   Perfume Tree's "A Lifetime Away" was just licenced to
>   and rereleased by World Domination (US), which should
>   make it considerably easier to track down outside of
>   their Vancouver home.=20

Yep, i stumbled across it twice (drawn by the IPR packaging).

>   "A Lifetime Away" begins ...
>   It will rank high on my year-end best
>   of 96 list...=20

Thanks for the review (i was coming around to doing the same thing but i've been
too busy).  It's good to know that even if i didn't stumble across this
accidentally, i'd now be on the look out for it.

>   Still coming to terms with "Nearly God"

I'm still looking for "nearly god", none of the stores are carying it and none
of the cheap mail-order companies (or am i wrong?).

-cz

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:51:14 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Take That sign to 4AD


I thought Hot Burrito #2 is the collaboration with Juliana Hatfield? on the
newer gepetto EP and hot burrito number one is just tanya.. cuz i have one
and i dont hear juliana on it. I really want a copy of the collaboration
though.

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:19:13 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored


On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Christopher Winfield wrote:

> This list is boring.  OOHH DCD is brilliant, DCD is brilliant,
>
> and are becoming nothing but a place to flame.  What would
> happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?
> Until this happens, unsubscribe me.

unsubscribe yourself, dood

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:25:54 PDT
From: Christopher Winfield (winfield@MATH.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: bored


This list is boring.  OOHH DCD is brilliant, DCD is brilliant,
....................................

They are nice but they're hacks!!  They can't even write lyrics to
L. Gerrards songs.  This stuff gets very old very fast.
Doesn't anyone realize that "going beyond words" is
what poetry is for?  The concerts are now always the same
and are becoming nothing but a place to flame.  What would
happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?
Until this happens, unsubscribe me.

winfield@math.ucla.edu


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:58:05 -0700
From: "C. Kemnitz" (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored


On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Christopher Winfield wrote:

> This list is boring.

Then make it exciting for yourself or get off.  This isn't yr. action
packed, laugh-a-minute, mind-numbing telivision station ... we're not here
to entertain you.  we're just ppl. talking about what we like (... and in
some cases, including yours, what we don't).

> OOHH DCD is brilliant, DCD is brilliant,
> ....................................

Yeah, so?  If you're tired of reading about DCD, why are you continueing
the conversation?  Are you a troll?

> They are nice but they're hacks!!  They can't even write lyrics to
> L. Gerrards songs.  This stuff gets very old very fast.

So why is a guitar aloud to not have any textual meaning but the human
voice has to?  So i take it you hate *all* instrumentals too?

> The concerts are now always the same
> and are becoming nothing but a place to flame.  What would
> happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?

Sophistication?  Hmmmm, i've never heard that complaint before.  ... or
did you mean sophomorification?

> Until this happens, unsubscribe me.

Do i look like your secretary?  (don't answer that!) Unsubscribe yourself.

-cz

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:22:41 -0400
From: j*mes t*ylor (valis@CC.CVU.CSSD.K12.VT.US)
Subject: Re: bored


Speaking of a place to flame...

If you don't appreciate the complexity of their music that's your right,
but don;t assume it's not there.

Oh, and this isn't a DCD list anyway is it ?

love, jt

> This list is boring.  OOHH DCD is brilliant, DCD is brilliant,
> ....................................
>
> They are nice but they're hacks!!  They can't even write lyrics to
> L. Gerrards songs.  This stuff gets very old very fast.
> Doesn't anyone realize that "going beyond words" is
> what poetry is for?  The concerts are now always the same
> and are becoming nothing but a place to flame.  What would
> happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?
> Until this happens, unsubscribe me.
>
> winfield@math.ucla.edu
> :
> :
>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:44:59 -0600
From: Roy White (rwhite@MAIL.AROS.NET)
Subject: discontinue subscription


Please remove this e-mail address from your mailing list.  Thank you for
your prompt response.


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 15:53:39 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: bored


Hey, I'm bored too, so let's flame someone. Ready, everyone? Here goes my
best einexile imitation:

>This list is boring.

As my grandpappy would have said, "No, Christopher, it's _you_ who are
being boring". If you don't like the topics of discussion, start your
own. Or say something about Curve reforming, or Throwing Muses, or
Tortoise or Can....

>They are nice but they're hacks!!  They can't even write lyrics to
>L. Gerrards songs.  This stuff gets very old very fast.

The mind reels. Compare to viz. REM, who realized they couldn't even
write lyrics to J. M. Stipe's songs and therefore made him start singing
intelligibly. The result: a transcendent leap in the quality of their
music and unforgettable poetry like "Shiny Happy People".

>What would
>happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?

sophistication always includes at least one egregious spelling error.

>Until this happens, unsubscribe me.

Unsubscribe yourself, bucko. We're not your housekeepers here.

>winfield@math.ucla.edu

Has fall semester started already or are the frosh arriving early?

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:32:36 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored


*yawn*  Fuck you, too.

Perhaps you are attempting to create a little flame fest as private
social experiment of the day, I don't care.  Besides, you can't write with
any sense of meaning or dialog--let alone intelligence.

However, in addidtion to concurring with "cz" about your mad dreams to
sophomorize DCD, I reacted to this post, because I was shocked to hear the
bleat of a sacrificial lamb in the name of all that is cultured and cool.

So, for being in my face unexpectedly--and so rudely, I think I'll
satisfy that Condition Stimulus Response experiment again--FUCK YOU.

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:04:11 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: discontinue subscription


What are you talking about?


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:06:22 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: bored


Why does everyone on this list try to out-intellectualise everyone else? It's
so pathetic, not to mention pretentious. Get lives.

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:52:36 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: How to unsubscribe (FAQ announcement)


Lissen up newbies:

To learn how to
* Unsubscribe from the 4AD-List
* Switch to daily digest mode
* Turn your mail off temporarily while you're on vacation

please read the directions in the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions list):

    http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html

This also has a lot of information about 4AD and related artists, the
label, etc. It's well worth reading for anyone on the list. At least jot
down the address so if you do want to unsubscribe in the future you'll
know how.

If you really & truly don't have Web access, I can e-mail you a copy. (If
you reply to this message change the subject; my mail program filters out
anything with "subscribe" or "unsub" in the subject before it reaches me.)

Please note that I'm not the official list admin. We effectively don't
have one. If you have trouble unsubscribing, there are directions in the
FAQ for how to work around the problem.

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:05:24 -0400
From: Eukariah (regeana@MINDSPRING.COM)
Subject: Re: bored


Is curve really getting back together? that' s very exciting.  I want new curve
music

please visit my band (the Changelings) page

you may like us



Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:22:59 -0700
From: Will Bryant (willb26@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Looking For Traders/Collectors Of That Dog


Hello --

I am looking for traders/collectors of the Los Angeles-based
4AD/Guernica/Geffen band That Dog.  I would especially like to hear from
fans who have the "Buy Me Flowers"/"Untitled" 7" that came as a bonus with
the first Guernica vinyl pressing, radio sessions, or live shows.

I have their original double 7" on Magnatone Records, the Poop Alley
compilation, their split 10" with Waldo The Dog-Faced Boy, all compilations
and promo singles, two radio sessions from KCRW, and much more.

I'm also working on a Web discography which can be previewed at:


There's no index page or graphics yet, but the documents are called
albums.html, singles.html, solo.html, and side.html.  If you have any
additions or corrections to the discography, or would like to trade, please
E-mail me at:

///////WB
willb26@earthlink.net

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:49:28 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: FS: Slowdive.


Hello all,

I have the following for bid/sale, please inquire within for details.

Slowdive - Holding our breath ep / 12" / white label promo

Slowdive - Morningrise ep / 12" / promo in die cut sleeve


Both are in M- condition.  Min. bid is $10 each.

thanks.

jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:19:04 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: bored


> On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Christopher Winfield wrote:
>
> > This list is boring.

There's always the gg allin list...
sorry, but I don't have an address for you.

> They are nice but they're hacks!!  They can't even write lyrics to
> L. Gerrards songs.

Right, understood.  In fact, when I was speaking to Ms. Gerrard and Mr. Perry
a few moments ago, I told them what you had typed.  I won't disclose what was
said, but they looked rather worried :(

>This stuff gets very old very fast.

...as opposed to?

> The concerts are now always the same
> and are becoming nothing but a place to flame.  What would
> happen if some sophistcation was introduced to their music?

Yes indeed.  The concerts now are just so...perfect and enthralling and like
you stated in your previous header "boring".  I mean, ten people on stage at
one time, playing in unison with one another is sooo elementary.  Where is
the pyrotechnics?
What they need to do is grow up, and buy a rotating drum set (and some
flying-V guitars).

Sophistication.  Yes!  That's what is needed. :P

> Until this happens, unsubscribe me.

Right away.  Would you care for some coffee while you wait?

jason

vice-pres. for the foundation of "keeping those bored jaded fly-by-night
transitional listies happy in the cancellation of their account" coalition.

have a pleasant weekend.


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