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Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:15:06 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses Live in Boston Review
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:17:15 -0400
From: "Steven W. Schuldt" (sschuldt@WINONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: sahara blue - 2 versions
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:10:59 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Lisa G. 'Small Heads' boring discographical details
Date: 13/08/96 16:50
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Lisa Germano
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:42:25 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: DCD in San Diego: DAMNIT!
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:59:19 -0300
From: Leonid Kalmankin (LVK@NORTH.CS.MSU.SU)
Subject: Curve
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 06:58:22 -0400
From: world without zinc (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:02:58 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance on the Web/radio
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:02:46 -0400
From: Lon Lentz (cerebus@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Curve
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:32:36 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:11:26 -0500
From: Tony deBrito (tdebrito@MAIL.DESIGNIMG.COM)
Subject: Re: Heavenly Bodies
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:16:41 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Melt W/You in commercial
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:49:43 +0000
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: DCD in San Diego: DAMNIT!
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:17:55 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Astrobrite address
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:03:29 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:11:56 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Brendan
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:22:18 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: brendan was not a happy camper
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:27:10 +0000
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: NEW MEMBER
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:18:28 -0700
From: Daniel Gordon (starman@LEONARDO.NET)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:15:46 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: LSD/Eden
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:32:00 -0700
From: rodney (rod@LOOP.COM)
Subject: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:47:49 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:44:42 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Biggest-selling 4AD single since...
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:58:51 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:51:41 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: ESP Freekout
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:52:53 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:10:30 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: FS: Chapterhouse
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:17:23 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Biggest-selling 4AD
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:26:49 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: FS: Chapterhouse
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:32:29 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:15:06 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo


> On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Andromeda wrote:
>
> > > Last week somebody asked if there are any differences between the ESP
> > > Beetles tape on Time Stereo and the recent ESP Beetles 'Spinnerin' tape on
> > > Generator (G-023). Well, they are the same, or not??
> > >
> > > and can someone tell me where to get either one?
> >
>
> YOu can most likely get both tapes from Time Stereo c/o Davin 28143 W. 8
> Mile Livonia, Michigan 48152 USA. For the ESP Beetle's 7" write to the
> Shaolin Temple (address in the sig file below).
>
> grasshopper
>
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thank you...  can you tell me offhand how much $$$$ to send, or should i just
write a letter, and wait a zillion years for a reply and *then* send out a
check...
--robn


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:17:15 -0400
From: "Steven W. Schuldt" (sschuldt@WINONA.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses Live in Boston Review


        Wherein Boston turns out in force for it's erstwhile
hometown heroes.  The Middle East, a venue with an ever-accelerating
level of street cred, is mobbed with punters seeking entry being
turned away in droves for this show. The crowd is dotted with local
celebs, Thalia Zadek (Live Skull, Come), Tanya Donnelly (looking
absolutely splendid, if a little forlorn in the back of the club,
having never been asked to leap onstage, ala Spinal Tap, for a
triumphant return).  Kristen Hersh is however, indisputably the
focal point tonight and it is her crowd to win or lose.
        Looking spiky and ready to wound in pinned black hair and a
white blouse, she peppers us repeatedly with her trademark zingers
("Thank you for not smoking because of the fat chick").  Her
pregnancy is on everyone's mind, if for no other reason than the
flyers pasted all over asking us not to smoke in deference to her
current state.  They start off with a rocket-fire blast of recent
work, "Bright Yellow Gun" flattens everyone to the back wall and for
perhaps the first time the Muses make sense as a trio.  The way the
Georges/Narcizo engine is firing tonight we know we're in for a
good one.  While I still prefer Leslie Langston's snakey lines to
the more straight ahead attack of Bernard Georges, it is obvious
that it is he who drives the current incarnation of the Muses, his
spare, powerful work giving Kristen's vocals the spotlight.
        And Kristen is doing fine tonight.  Her vocals are
controlled, almost consciously being conserved for the long tour
ahead, but there are times when she gets intently lost in the moment
("Pearl", "Mania") and gives it everything.  Her guitar is slightly
more heavily processed than before and this is actually a major
plus, the loss of Tanya's fidgety fretting having badly wounded the
Muses live power.  For the first time in memory, and I have
personally seen the Muses some 25-plus times over the last ten
years, they fail to play a single song from the first record.  Maybe
they figure there are none of us left ;)  The loss seems less than
critical however; even with one lonely soul at the bar crying out in
vain, over and over, for "Delicate Cutters".
        There are tracks from 'University', 'Hunkpapa', 'Red
Heaven', "The Real Ramona", the new one of course and even the
ancient, much beloved 'Fat Skier' ("You Cage" as an encore).  The
band seems much tighter, almost slick now, which is actually sort of
welcome after some seriously slack shows just a couple of years
back when the world was wondering aloud just why the Muses were
bothering to carry on.
        There is no doubt that this is a wholly different type of
band than the one with the same name of a decade ago.  There were
times in 1987/88 when live Throwing Muses sounded like Godzilla
eating sheetmetal in a jet engine.  I sort of miss the insane
sensory overload, but overall, and as someone who has followed the
evolution of the band for so long, I'd have to say that I was
surprised to witness onstage tonight something I was beginning to
think I might never see from this band again: genuine inspiration.
The new songs are sinewy, powerful and complex.  Kristen is
shedding, albeit consciously, the teen-angst persona once and for
all and exploring adulthood with grace and insight.
        God knows what I would make of this band if I were 19
again, but as a man pushing 30 they make a hell of a lot of sense.
So maybe this show really _was_ one for the old-timers; the ones
willing to let go and begin again.  Or maybe it was one for the
curious young bucks wondering what becomes of youth's awesome power,
when it dissipates after so many long years and bad nights into
wisdom, love and simple perseverance...

- Steve
Boston '96


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:10:59 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: sahara blue - 2 versions

              Aug 1996 22:53:20 -0700

>   cdnow has 2 versions of hector zazou's "sahara blue" -
>   one domestic, one import from belgium. the belgium
>   release says "new version, w/dead can dance." i've heard
>   the domestic release has patti smith on it. does anyone
>   know if one of these releases contains both artists? or
>   is each release completely different from the other?

Before i answer your question let me tell you that i think Hector Zazou's Sahara
Blue is brilliant and you ought to buy it one way or the other.  Okay, now it
used to be that DCD only appeared on the US version (domestic) but i don't think
either version had Patti Smith.  I heard that the US version had used the DCD
tracks to replace David Sylvian tracks (from the European release) because of
legal problems with Sylvian's rec. company.  My guess is that the DCD tracks
were so popular that they've added those to the European release while retaining
the Sylvian tunes as well.  Why don't you get it and let us all know?

-cz


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:57:00 GMT
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Lisa G. 'Small Heads' boring discographical details


     I've received the This Rimy River Ltd Ed book sometime within the last
     2 weeks (I was on holiday so not sure exactly when). It certainly was
     worth the wait.

     Paul Walsh
     Manchester UK
     Paul.Walsh@Petrolite.co.uk

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Lisa G. 'Small Heads' boring discographical details

Date: 13/08/96 16:50 No sign of the This Rimy River ltd. edition yet, but I was surprised to see the new Lisa Germano single arrive on both CD and 7"!! AD 6019 - 7" LISA GERMANO - Small Heads A. Small Heads B. Fun, Fun For Everyone (Acoustic) BAD 6019CD - CD LISA GERMANO - Small Heads 1. Small Heads 2. Fun, Fun For Everyone (Acoustic) 3. Tom Dick And Harry 4. Messages From Sophia (Instrumental) ...it seems like Throwing Muses 'Limbo' will only be released on CD !!????!! Frank ++++++++++++++++++++ Frank Brinkhuis frankbri@pi.net www.pi.net/~frankbri ++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:42:25 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Lisa Germano


 Found the "Small Heads" EP yesterday, 1.99 (4AD seems to have adopted
 the "sell CD singles at low prices to promote the albums"
 technique).  The A-side is fine, the next two songs are forgettable,
 the fourth number is a very pretty little instrumental.  Other
 purchases: The Divine Comedy's "Becoming More Like Alfie" (not as
 keen on "Casanova" as I was on "Promenade", the single has an Edwyn
 Collins cover and a couple of re-recordings on it), Patti Smith's
 "Summer Cannibals" singles (not keen - there's something wrong when
 Lisa Germano's single is more attractive than the "legendary poetess of
 punk" (c) every newspaper review).


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 14/08/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:59:19 -0300
From: Leonid Kalmankin (LVK@NORTH.CS.MSU.SU)
Subject: Re: DCD in San Diego: DAMNIT!


Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:45:20, Enrique Jimenez writes to Multiple recipients of list
4AD-L <4AD-L@AMERICAN.EDU> :

 EJ>      DCD played in the small Spreckles 1,465 capacity theater. The show
 EJ>      sold out that same night. The crowd was very eclectic. Lisa got mad at
 EJ>      Robert Perry twice for forgetting to sing in a song. Then Robert was
 EJ>      trying to make things up by making goo goo eyes at her. Everybody on
 EJ>      the stage was laughing.

 EJ>      The best part was when Lisa came out alone to do the second encore by
 EJ>      herself. She did an accapella (sp?) version of "Host of Seraphim".
 EJ>      Before she did that, she explained that the song was requested by
 EJ>      Mara, a girl who had just lost her father.  The performance of this
 EJ>      song was more than amazing, her lovely voice echoed all around the
 EJ>      small theater and everybody was enthralled by the special moment. A
 EJ>      lot of people were crying during this performance, it was very
 EJ>      emotional. Afterwards Brendan came out, hugged Lisa, who was also
 EJ>      crying and closed the show with "Dreams made Flesh". Another hug
 EJ>      followed the performance.

 EJ>      A lot of people from Tijuana, Mexicali and Ensenada were in the
 EJ>      theater. Probably half of the theater was filled with fans from
 EJ>      Mexico. I saw a lot of old friends in there. We love 4AD on this side
 EJ>      of the border.

 EJ>      Nos vemos ...

Damnit, damnit, damnit. Or maybe even Shit, Shit, Shit!!!!!!!!

        Stop writing such a letters, eh? PLEEEAAASE !!!
Cuz you making me mad. =(
        To know that DCD touring.. somewhere far away :P .. is bad enough,
but when you telling me that they are doing some brilliant pieces that i'll
never here..

DAMNIT!!!

        Why the hell dont they visit Russia !? Will I NEVER see them live!!??
Oh, heaven! :~(

        The only hope i have is that there will be some bootlegs maybe..
Or even TTW-like video.. Do you know anything about it?

LVK.


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 06:58:22 -0400
From: world without zinc (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Curve


>>Curve have reformed, and have a new
>>single "Pink Girl with the Blues" released on Fat Lip Records on
>>September 2.  We're promised a tour and album in 1997...
>
>I'll lay 5-to-1 odds they've gone all jungle on us. :)

I was kind of hoping we'd get to hear what Dean could do on his own.
Obviously Toni didn't seem to be getting anywhere.

>BTW, I was rereading old Sandman comics and wondering once again whether
>the idea for the song/title "Cuckoo" comes from the Sandman story "A
>Dream Of You" which involves a rather nasty supernatural entity by that
>name.

Probably not. Toni strikes me as the sort of person who hates comics and I'm
more inclined to think it has something to do with the original symbolism of
the cuckoo.

Yrs in speculation,

Larry

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:02:58 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo


At 02:03 AM 14/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>> Last week somebody asked if there are any differences between the ESP
>> Beetles tape on Time Stereo and the recent ESP Beetles 'Spinnerin' tape on
>> Generator (G-023). Well, they are the same, or not??
>>
>> The 'With The...' Time Stereo cassette features:
>> 1. Last Song
>> 2. No Songs
>> 3. Quiet
>> 4. Jason Tape
>> 5. Kill Me
>> 6. Hurry Up
>> 7. Right Now
>>
>> The 'Spinnerin' cassette on Generator contains:
>> 1. Last Song
>> 2. No Songs
>> 3. Quiet
>> 4. Jason Tape
>> 5. Kill Me
>> 6. Hurry Up
>> 7. Right Now
>>
>> Is the Generator cassette a remix? Or what?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>> Frank Brinkhuis
>> frankbri@pi.net
>> www.pi.net/~frankbri
>> ++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>
>and can someone tell me where to get either one?
>

to get one??  why again...straight from those who create it....the boys at
timeSTEREO can help you (Davin specifically)... i don't have their fax &
address handy, but contact them through The Record Collector (a music store
they work out of) at:

rec.coll@ix.netcom.com


laters!


~  quis


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:02:46 -0400
From: Lon Lentz (cerebus@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance on the Web/radio


At 12:37 PM 8/13/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I know it is not much warning but Lisa Gerrard does an interview on KCRW in
>Los Angeles.  The Web address is all that http stuff and then kcrw.org

  Well, I missed this. Did anyone record it? And if so, can I get a copy
 of it somehow?


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:32:36 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Curve


At 06:58 AM 8/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Curve have reformed, and have a new
>>>single "Pink Girl with the Blues" released on Fat Lip Records on
>>>September 2.  We're promised a tour and album in 1997...
>>
>>I'll lay 5-to-1 odds they've gone all jungle on us. :)
>
>I was kind of hoping we'd get to hear what Dean could do on his own.
>Obviously Toni didn't seem to be getting anywhere.
>
>>BTW, I was rereading old Sandman comics and wondering once again whether
>>the idea for the song/title "Cuckoo" comes from the Sandman story "A
>>Dream Of You" which involves a rather nasty supernatural entity by that
>>name.
>
>Probably not. Toni strikes me as the sort of person who hates comics and I'm
>more inclined to think it has something to do with the original symbolism of
>the cuckoo.
>
>Yrs in speculation,
>
>Larry
>
>


There was a magazine interview with Curve some time ago -- Lime Lizard,
Option, or something like that -- and Toni gave details about what each song
on "Cuckoo" was about.  She didn't once mention comic books.

Mike

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:11:26 -0500
From: Tony deBrito (tdebrito@MAIL.DESIGNIMG.COM)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies


                                          10:05 AM            8/14/96

   I have a CD by Heavenly Bodies. Are they a TMC spin out or CT splinter ??


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:16:41 -0400
From: Michael Borum (iceblink@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Heavenly Bodies


Heavenly Bodies are neither, really.  They consist of individuals who had
been involved with Dead Can Dance and This Mortal Coil.  I suppose you could
call them a TMC "spin out", although since TMC never had a static lineup to
begin with, it would be a weak description.

Mike


At 10:11 AM 8/14/96 -0500, you wrote:
>                                          10:05 AM            8/14/96
>
>   I have a CD by Heavenly Bodies. Are they a TMC spin out or CT splinter ??
>
>


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:49:43 +0000
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Melt W/You in commercial


At 02:34 8/13/96 +0000, you wrote:
>hi kids.
>
>Is it just me, or...did I just see a Burger King commercial with Modern
>English's "Melt With You" playing in the background?

Must have been a cheeseburger commercial if they used "Melt With You".

Carol

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:17:55 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD in San Diego: DAMNIT!


> Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:45:20, Enrique Jimenez writes to Multiple recipients of li
t 4AD-L <4AD-L@AMERICAN.EDU> :
>
>  EJ>      DCD played in the small Spreckles 1,465 capacity theater. The show
>  EJ>      sold out that same night. The crowd was very eclectic. Lisa got mad 
t
>  EJ>      Robert Perry twice for forgetting to sing in a song. Then Robert was
>  EJ>      trying to make things up by making goo goo eyes at her. Everybody on
>  EJ>      the stage was laughing.
>
>  EJ>      The best part was when Lisa came out alone to do the second encore b

>  EJ>      herself. She did an accapella (sp?) version of "Host of Seraphim".
>  EJ>      Before she did that, she explained that the song was requested by
>  EJ>      Mara, a girl who had just lost her father.  The performance of this
>  EJ>      song was more than amazing, her lovely voice echoed all around the
>  EJ>      small theater and everybody was enthralled by the special moment. A
>  EJ>      lot of people were crying during this performance, it was very
>  EJ>      emotional. Afterwards Brendan came out, hugged Lisa, who was also
>  EJ>      crying and closed the show with "Dreams made Flesh". Another hug
>  EJ>      followed the performance.
>
>  EJ>      A lot of people from Tijuana, Mexicali and Ensenada were in the
>  EJ>      theater. Probably half of the theater was filled with fans from
>  EJ>      Mexico. I saw a lot of old friends in there. We love 4AD on this sid

>  EJ>      of the border.
>
>  EJ>      Nos vemos ...
>
> Damnit, damnit, damnit. Or maybe even Shit, Shit, Shit!!!!!!!!
>
>         Stop writing such a letters, eh? PLEEEAAASE !!!
> Cuz you making me mad. =(
>         To know that DCD touring.. somewhere far away :P .. is bad enough,
> but when you telling me that they are doing some brilliant pieces that i'll
> never here..
>
> DAMNIT!!!
>
>         Why the hell dont they visit Russia !? Will I NEVER see them live!!??
> Oh, heaven! :~(
>
>         The only hope i have is that there will be some bootlegs maybe..
> Or even TTW-like video.. Do you know anything about it?
>
> LVK.
>

hey, i know how you feel...  when dcd played innew york in 1989, i had
tickets to go see them, but i was young (like 14) and i couldnt get to the
show...  then when they came around my freshman year in college, i was in
louisiana, and they werent touring that far south.  but i drove 10 hours into
atlanta to see them anyway.  so it took me *years* to see them...  (it was
worth it, but you dont want to hear that..)  the moral of the story is that
if they wont come to you, you need to go to them...

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:03:29 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Astrobrite address


The Astrobrite address printed in Dewdrops is incorrect.
This is what it should be:

Astrobrite
203 Mac #9
East Lansing, MI 48823

They also have a web page at:

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:11:56 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo


>> YOu can most likely get both tapes from Time Stereo c/o Davin 28143 W. 8
>> Mile Livonia, Michigan 48152 USA. For the ESP Beetle's 7" write to the
>> Shaolin Temple (address in the sig file below).
>>
>> grasshopper

>
>thank you...  can you tell me offhand how much $$$$ to send, or should i just
>write a letter, and wait a zillion years for a reply and *then* send out a
>check...
>--robn

all timeSTEREO tapes are $4.50 each.  make sure you make checks payable to
"record collector"  once i wrote mine out to "time stereo" and i got a
reply about 8 months later explaining my error.
tony


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:22:18 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Brendan


I talked with Dead Can Dance's monitor man, and Brendan was merely concerned
with the sound on stage. In L.A. and Berkeley, the band played large venues
and as a result, were farther apart than normal, causing for different than
normal sound on stage...

that's all.


Brendan is a perfectionist, remember, so he wants things right.


joe


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:27:10 +0000
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: brendan was not a happy camper


Dan K wrote: this observation, coupled with the
>        frustrated-sounding texts by brendan in the tour
>        programme might seem to suggest that we may
>        be witnessing the end of dcd.  there's an interview
>        with lisa at the dcd site where she says that they
>        are at the point where it has to end or else
>        go even further (to paraphrase) into the labyrinth.
>
>        one wonders if the two of them can get any closer.
>        and if not, dcd may very well be done for.
>
>
I too wonder if this will be the beginning or the end. After all, the cd
"Spiritchaser" got a lot of less-than-rave reviews by folks on this list
(die-hard dcd fans, like myself). We all know that songs featuring Brendan's
lead vocals are very different from songs featuring Lisa's lead vocals, and
not just the words versus vocal sounds thing, either. Yet there is a musical
synthesis of two visionary artists (Lisa & Brendan) happening on past
efforts, that even seems stronger on "Spiritchaser".

Now, Lisa has done a solo effort and apparently Brendan isn't ready to
complete one. Who knows what is going to happen next? Nothing has been said
in their interviews that appears to be a revelation. Do DCD even know
themselves how the evolution will turn out? They seem to be saying that they
don't know...that they are on a journey of sorts. And we are on that journey
with them, as "their public", as they refer to us (tho they don't know who
we are...see cover article in Sept 96 Alternative Press.)

Enjoy the ride!

Carol Coney


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:18:28 -0700
From: Daniel Gordon (starman@LEONARDO.NET)
Subject: NEW MEMBER


Hello all,

I am a new member to this list and have a question to all of you Dead
Can Dance fans.  I have been a fan since around 1985 when I first heard
the "Lonely Is An Eyesore" compilation.  I have seen Dead Can Dance two
times.  (One this past Sunday in Los Angeles).  I was looking for any
thoughts on the Lisa Gerrard solo record.  For some reason, I never
purchased it.  How does it compare with the Lisa DCD songs??  Is it
worth it??

dan.

--
"There's a starman waiting in the sky,
He'd like to come and meet us,
But he thinks he'd blow our minds..."

          -David Bowie


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:15:46 EDT
From: Andromeda (aleppo@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP Beetles - Generator vs. Time Stereo


> >> YOu can most likely get both tapes from Time Stereo c/o Davin 28143 W. 8
> >> Mile Livonia, Michigan 48152 USA. For the ESP Beetle's 7" write to the
> >> Shaolin Temple (address in the sig file below).
> >>
> >> grasshopper
>
> >
> >thank you...  can you tell me offhand how much $$$$ to send, or should i just
> >write a letter, and wait a zillion years for a reply and *then* send out a
> >check...
> >--robn
>
> all timeSTEREO tapes are $4.50 each.  make sure you make checks payable to
> "record collector"  once i wrote mine out to "time stereo" and i got a
> reply about 8 months later explaining my error.
> tony
>

great... danke...
--robn


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:32:00 -0700
From: rodney (rod@LOOP.COM)
Subject: Re: LSD/Eden


cz wrote:
>
> Hey you LA listies! How was the Love Spirals Downwards/Eden show?  I
> can't believe no one went!  Give us the skinny.

Well, here's the skinny, the lsd/eden show was pretty damn good.  Sean Bowley
of Eden was a pleasant surprise.  Having only heard an old lp (something
'bout Gateways in the title, pre-projekt?) and just recently "healingbow", it
was nice to see how well the eden sound was distilled down to just a man with
a 12-string acoustic guitar.  The highlight was his covering Neil Young's
"like a hurricane" (I think that's the proper title) and hearing the wave of
recognition cross the room.

LSD also put on a fine show.  Even more playful than their last few shows
here in L.A., though the crowd seemed to be a bit more, um, how should I put
this tactfully, gothically reserved.  (no one was yelling out 'bout "cheese
burgers" this time around, though I did contemplate hooting out "freebird"
once or twice myself)  It seems like after they adjusted to the intimacy of
the environment (with people seated just a couple of feet away!) they were in
rare form.  But things really took off as Suzanne turned off darn near every
light, with the only illumination coming from a flashlight held by someone in
the front row.  This really focused the listener on the performance, not the
performers, or the pictures hanging on the wall.  Kinda like listening w/
headphones in a darkened room.  There is just something about the human voice
and acoustic instrumentation that transcends all classification and speaks
directly to the core of human emotion.  My eyes adjusted to the darkness
pretty quickly, but I think I'm still seeing spots before my eyes from all
the photo flashes bouncing off the glass framed pictures around the gallery!


> Evidently, the two bands are thinking of making some music together.  If it so
nds good they'll put out an EP
> or something ... so lets send good vibes their way because i'd love to hear
> those songs.

You & me both! I think Sean & Ryan's styles would compliment each other's
quite nicely.  ~~~~>  ~~~~>  ~~~~~~>   (those are vibes if you are wondering)

> So the LSD single is out.  Who's heard it?  Are the non-LP track and
> song edit version essential buys?
>
> -cz

In a word ---------->   Y  E  S  ! !

I picked it up at the show.  The single "sideways forest" is quite lovely and
is probably more indicative of the upcoming CD than the other tracks, but it
is in these other tracks that they push the envelope of not only their own
identity but that of projekt as well.  The "Sideways Forest - Quantum remix"
splashes around in trip hop territory (kinda like the mellower side of those
lush remixes from split)  But it is the ambient "Amarillo" that will make
itself onto many a mix tape in the coming months.  Muy bueno!

Like that Ventures record, Run, Don't Walk & get itů..


laters,
Rodney

Who is still recovering from his rock n roll weekend w/ LSD & Eden on Fri,
the Cure on Sat. and DCD on Sunday and has come to the conclusion that people
need to dress a just a tad bit cheerier. Pastels anyone?


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:47:49 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts


        Anyone seen the video for 500 by lush? I just have to say that
I'm finally glad to see what Miki really looks like with out twelve
hours of make-up or a bright light in her face.

         I heard that shallow is coming out with a new album this
summer/fall. Does anyone have a date?

                                                Brian

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:44:42 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


> LIVONIA..is the only palce this could happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


Heh... kinda cool idea... but if you have it in L.A., maybe you could talk
the folks at the 4AD-US office into taking part somehow.  *shrug*

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:58:51 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Biggest-selling 4AD single since...


On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Emiel Efdee wrote:

> What's the best selling 4AD record (album/cd) btw?

Modern English's "After the Snow" sold something like 800,000 copies, and
Belly's "Star" was certified gold...500,000 copies


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:51:41 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts


On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Scott, Mari & Brian wrote:

>         Anyone seen the video for 500 by lush? I just have to say that
> I'm finally glad to see what Miki really looks like with out twelve
> hours of make-up or a bright light in her face.
>


I just remember that the first thing I said when I saw this video was "Oh
look, Lush have a Bee Girl!".... great video :)

Strick9

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:52:53 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: ESP Freekout


Yesterday I got 5 tapes from Time Stereo and two items from Farr=E1go,
and today I got "Oneironaut" from Derby.  ESP Orgy Time!

Spoonfed Hybrid - Hibernation Shock

This 5-track cd single from Farr=E1go has to be one of the most
beautifully designed items I've seen in a good while.  Everything is
printed in pale green and gray on a semi-transparent plastic vellum
thingie, so while it's hard to actually read what's written on it, the
images double up on one another and create all sorts of interesting
effects.  Nine thumbs up!

The first track is a Warn remix of one of the tracks from the SH
album, and is kinda nice.  Pointless, but nice.  Then there are two
new Ian songs and two new Chris songs, and they all sound like one
would expect.  Melodies, open, sparse, electronic, nice, etc.  Nothing
really grabbed me, though.  Perhaps it'll grow on me. =20


ESP Summer 10" (from Farr=E1go)

This 10" features 6 remixed tracks from that ESP Summer tape/cd I'm
sure everybody has heard by now.  While the tape was *very* simple,
with hardly any effects at all, the 10" is Warn Supreme -- noise, odd
stereo effects, noise, things dropping in and out of the mix at
random, and noise.  It's the six best tracks off of the tape as well.
If I were to choose between the tape and the 10", I'd definitely go
for the latter.  The tape is nice source material, but the 10" feels
like the finished product.

The sleeve is very Time Stereoish.  I like 10"s -- not as flimsy as
7"s, and not as dull as 12"s.


Oneironaut (from Derby)

Two tracks from Ian Masters.  Uhm.  Isn't he English?  Why is he
releasing stuff on a gazillion small US labels? =20

Anyways.  This single finds Ian in an electronic (and slightly more
percussive) mood.  The first track is an instrumental, even, while the
second has those Ian Angelic Vocals(tm) that we all know and adore.
I've only listened to it once, but it sounds quite good, I must say.
More exciting than the SH cdsingle, I think.


Liquorice - Stalls 7"

Hey, I got this a couple of days ago.  It has three non-album tracks,
all sounding very Liquoriceish.  Not as good as the album, though.
Wey kewl, even so.


His Name Is Alive - Live in Mexico tape

So, it starts off with a Mexican radio announcer introducing HNIA, and
then there's a live bit, and then there's an extended pointless piano
thing, and then there's a live bit, and then more piano bits.  And so
on.  I like the live bits, and the piano bits are totally without any
redeeming qualities.  Sounds like Warn left the tape recorder on while
letting his hands fall at random on the keys.  Quelle snort.


New Grape - Time tape

"Noise, girl" I think the Time Stereo flyer said, and that's a pretty
good description.  It mostly sounds like the noisy parts of that song
that was included on that 4AD sampler...  Uhm...  The US 14 Year Itch
thingie.  Well.  I'm not much of a noize person, so I don't quite know
what to make of it.  Dara does the music and vocals, and Warn does the
mixing.  I think I'll have to listen to it some more to be able to
tell, really.


ESP Family tape

Aha!  So this was where Warn pioneered that ultra-lo-fi sound that he
used on last track on the "Universal Frequencies" ep.  Most of the
vocals sound like they were recorded off a 1$ tape recorder, which
they probably were.  This does produce some interesting effects here
and there, with some guitars being non-distorted and some with heavy
hiss, but it all just adds up to one rather boring joke.  These are
"communist miner songs", and is sung in a severly off-key manner by
someone (Warn?).  I guess it's supposed to be funny.  I don't know. =20

Not that it's horrible or anything; it's just not all that good.


And then we have Pail Saint and Dragon-God, by I haven't gotten to
those two yet.

Like.  I don't know.  I just put on "Shark" cdsingle by Throwing Muses
and the difference between that and these thingies is telling.  While
"Shark" sounds great, has a fabulous tune and just drips with talent
and accomplishment -- all these seem rather slight in comparison.
Sure, they're fun, they're whacky, way kewl and so on, but I doubt
that anyone will be listening to any of this in two years.  Perhaps
that's part of the charm?  That these are immediate and ephemeral
releases that are only available Now and will be gone forever faster
than you can blink? =20

Am I unhappy with any of these releases?  Not really.  It's just that
I could very well see myself leading a full and happy life without
having heard them.  They are not essential, unlike the Muses single.

--=20
  "Yes.  The journey through the human heart=20
     would have to wait until some other time."


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:10:30 EDT
From: Robert Dunkin (rdunkin@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU)
Subject: Re: 500 Lushs and their lovelifes or shallow thoughts


I think it's a great video! (500 from lush)..

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:17:23 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: Chapterhouse


>I am looking for a version of 'Precious One' that is not on the album.
 It
>is a really dub version that I heard in a club in early to mid 1992.
Is
>this on anything that you have for sale?  If it is, then I'd be very
>interested in that particular item.

you might want to check the "mesmerize" remix 12" there is a remix of
both songs, that is probably what you are looking for. if you can not
find it, i would be more than happy to dub it for you. :)

                -bob.

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:26:49 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Biggest-selling 4AD


The Breeders' "Last Splash" sold 1 million copies in the USA...

At 02:58 PM 8/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Emiel Efdee wrote:
>
>> What's the best selling 4AD record (album/cd) btw?
>
>Modern English's "After the Snow" sold something like 800,000 copies, and
>Belly's "Star" was certified gold...500,000 copies
>
>


Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:32:29 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: Chapterhouse


Robert Pietrusko wrote:
> >I am looking for a version of 'Precious One' that is not on the album.
>  It
> >is a really dub version that I heard in a club in early to mid 1992.
> Is
> >this on anything that you have for sale?  If it is, then I'd be very
> >interested in that particular item.
>
> you might want to check the "mesmerize" remix 12" there is a remix of
> both songs, that is probably what you are looking for. if you can not
> find it, i would be more than happy to dub it for you. :)

A little bit off the original subject, but there was the Global Communication
remix of 'Blood Music,' which I think totally blows the original right outta
the proverbial water.  Of course I just found my copy in the used bin for $6
two weeks ago, so I'm only too thrilled about it.  ;)

And yeh, if anyone's having problems finding this li'l gem, drop me a line
and perhaps we can swap tapes or something.

Cheers,


hk
[half-owner of one of a gazillion small US labels... *grin*]
--
hk@neosoft.com farrago@delphi.com http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
"There's nothing the British like better than a bloke who comes from
 nowhere, makes it, and then gets clobbered." -- Melvyn Bragg


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