Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:25:44 -0500
Just came from the Dead Can Dance concert here in Portland, Oregon. One
thing really came through to me at this show--that Brendan seems to be
pulling back during the live shows. His non-guitar contributions for
the night were mostly shakers (save the wonderful yang t'chin on the
stunning show closer, Dreams Made Flesh). During one of the all
percussion numbers, he even stood completely away from the rest of the
group, quietly shaking while they passionately summoned the muse.
Robert's contributions seem to be taking over more and more the center
stage during the live performances. His flute solo this time was
absolutely sublime. I really think Robert Perry is coming into his own as
a musician and dare I say, I think (at least as far as traditional
instrumentation is concerned) he has begun to surpass Brendan. One need
only listen to the bagpipe on As the Bell Rings the Maypole Spins from
Aion to realize what a talent Robert is! The tour program mentions that
Robert is preparing for a solo album and I think I'm more anxious to hear
this work than I have been either of the last two Dead Can Dance records.
Whether Robert can integrate his musical vision the way that Brendan
synthesized the elements of Dead Can Dance, however, is another thing
entirely. If he does, I think we may have the best potential 4AD signing
since--well--since Dead Can Dance themselves!
Are you listening Ivo?!
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:02:05 +0200
Drew wrote:
>1. what is "esp"? well, i might be lying if i said it stands for
>extra-sensory perception. warren says it was a 60's label.
So (once again :) ) I was right. ESP wasn't 'just' a '60s label though. I
found this on some WWW-page, a while ago:
ESP was a very unconventional New York record label that was started in 1964
by Bernard Stollman - a music-loving lawyer. ESP, named after the Esperanto
movement, was designed so that artists could produce records anyway they
wanted to virtually everything from song selection to recording to cover art
was under complete artist control. This is the norm with most independent
labels today, but unheard of at the time. Originally a free jazz label, ESP
released their first rock selection in 1966 with the debut of the Fugs. By
the time ESP-Disk folded in 1976, they had released some truly amazing
underground records by the likes of the Godz, Pearls Before Swine, the Holy
Modal Rounders, Sun Ra and the East Village Other (an electric newspaper
featuring Allen Ginsberg and the Velvet Underground among others).
Frank
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:54:24 -0700
With all the delayed 4AD releases this year, including Pixies, The Jive
Bombers and The Wolfgang Press, which may not see the light of day until
1997, will the original '96 idents be carried over to '97 or will numbers
like The Jive Bombers (CAD6013), Pixies (CAD6015, BAD6018), etc be
reassigned with '97 numbers (7001, etc.)??? What is Ivo planning????
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
CAD 7011 CD will be Red Atkins' "Hunk Demos", released Sept. 10, 1997, in
a quad-folded, gold-plated digipack. Initial 25,000 copies signed by Mr.
Atkins himself. Warren Defever is remixing "Hunk Of A Punk" and Karin
Oliver will be adding "Hunk Harmonies". time STEREO will release a
limited double 10" vinyl version, with Chris Bigg/v23 doing cover art.
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:23:48 EDT
Did anyone order cd's from Tim Jacob in the last month? I think I got ripped
off. The check cleared last Thursday (and he would have deposited it sooner
than that). So far, no discs. Unless the shipment went out book rate I would
have received something by now...
E-mail me privately if this has happened to you as well.
Barry
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:23:01 -0400
> I finally picked up the Twins' Violaine singles today, which leads to
> couple of questions. First, someone mentioned some time ago another double
> single set for Rilkean Heart. Was this released? Anyone have any info?
It was cancelled in favor of Violaine. I've always assumed the "b-sides"
were the same for both, but never actually heard.
> Second, has anyone noticed that Circling Girl on the 2nd single is a
> different mix from the version on Volume 15?
>
Someone did notice it, but no real details were given. Is it just the
sound of the production, or are the balances different, or what?
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 09:34:49 -0400
At 08:23 AM 8/7/96 -0400, you wrote:
>> I finally picked up the Twins' Violaine singles today, which
leads to a
>> couple of questions. First, someone mentioned some time ago another double
>> single set for Rilkean Heart. Was this released? Anyone have any info?
>
>It was cancelled in favor of Violaine. I've always assumed the "b-sides"
>were the same for both, but never actually heard.
This is true. They rarely have stuff sitting around collecting dust; they
tend to release what they've got if it's finished.
>> Second, has anyone noticed that Circling Girl on the 2nd single is a
>> different mix from the version on Volume 15?
>>
>
>Someone did notice it, but no real details were given. Is it just the
>sound of the production, or are the balances different, or what?
>
Yep, it's different in a variety of ways. First, on the b-side version,
there's no plucked guitar intro, it just goes right into the song. There's
more apparent distortion on the guitars, and Liz's voice is not as effected
as it is on the Volume 15 version -- not much reverb, etc. From what can be
heard, the Volume 15 version is much more glossy and produced than the
b-side version.
Mike
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:12:30 +0000
Finally acquired "Stars on ESP", not an easy task in the Atlanta burbs.
There was only one copy in the store, lucky for me, not for anyone else.
It's fabulous, and the production is the best of HNIA's thus far (IMHO). I
especially like the sneaky little dub effects in there, reminiscent of
Jamaican dub/studio wizards like Mad Professor & Augustus Pablo.
The only thing I dislike a bit is the emphasis on sweet sounding female
vocals a la Lush (a band I don't particularly like.) However, it DOES
contribute to the fun, poppy spin on this effort, so all in all, I LIKE!
I just want to thank everyone on this here listy who e-mailed me when I put
out my APB for info on HNIA...since I don't listen to radio, I probably
wouldn't have this exceptional music in my collection today (tho no doubt
radio play is scarce...I also thank the technology gods/goddesses for the
internet!!!)
Carol Coney
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:22:52 -0500
At 05:54 AM 8/7/96 -0700, you wrote:
>With all the delayed 4AD releases this year, including Pixies, The Jive
>Bombers and The Wolfgang Press, which may not see the light of day until
>1997, will the original '96 idents be carried over to '97 or will numbers
>like The Jive Bombers (CAD6013), Pixies (CAD6015, BAD6018), etc be
>reassigned with '97 numbers (7001, etc.)??? What is Ivo planning????
>
>Jeff Keibel
>Toronto, ON
>CANADA
>
I can't see 4AD releasing them with the original numbers in a different
year. Have they ever released stuff with a prior year's catalog sequence?
Hoping that's not a dumb question,
oteran
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:54:17 -0400
At 03:12 PM 8/7/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Finally acquired "Stars on ESP", not an easy task in the Atlanta burbs.
>There was only one copy in the store, lucky for me, not for anyone else.
>
>It's fabulous, and the production is the best of HNIA's thus far (IMHO).
REALLY?? I always felt that "Mouth By Mouth" was much more polished
sounding. Especially songs like "Blue Moon" [is that the right title? It's
the cover tune...], "Lip", "Lemon", and "Ear".
>especially like the sneaky little dub effects in there, reminiscent of
>Jamaican dub/studio wizards like Mad Professor & Augustus Pablo.
I agree. And Warren always manages to scare me when I first listen to his
music 'cause I don't know where he's gonna throw in some white noise that's
many levels louder than the rest of the music. It happens on one of the
songs on "Stars on ESP" where it's kinda quiet and then all this thundering
noise from nowhere. I sit quietly in my office with HNIA in the background
and then all of a sudden spill my coffee at this alarming sound...
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:29:08 EDT
--- You wrote:
I can't see 4AD releasing them with the original numbers in a different
year. Have they ever released stuff with a prior year's catalog sequence?
--- end of quoted material ---
The only instance of this, I think, is The Wolfgang Press "Funky Little Demons"
being released in Jan 95 with a 94 catalog number. I might be wrong - it
didn't show up in the US until February.
Barry
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:35:18 -0500
Forgive my ignorance if this has been previous topic, but this is the
first I've heard of said releases... what's up?? I thought the
Wolfgang Press was off 4AD for their overcharging at record store stunt...
behind the times...
lisaroo
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:02:13 -0700
Frank Brinkhuis enlightens us:
>ESP was a very unconventional New York record label that was started in 1964
Oho, now I recall. Those wanting some over-the-top ranting about some of
the ESP bands (esp. Godz) should check out one chapter of Lester Bangs'
"Psychotic Reactions and Carburetor Dung", one of the greatest books ever
written about rock'n'roll music. The Godz were apparently VERY bad, but
in a way [viz. the Shaggs] that one can turn inside out and see as very
very transcendentally great.
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 14:43:47 -0400
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:15:04 -0700
wait...when they re-issued 'stuff' a couple of years ago (In Camera, Happy
Families [is that the right name?], Modern English, etc) they used the
original catalog #'s...
rick
>--- You wrote:
>I can't see 4AD releasing them with the original numbers in a different
>year. Have they ever released stuff with a prior year's catalog sequence?
>--- end of quoted material ---
>
>
>The only instance of this, I think, is The Wolfgang Press "Funky Little Demons"
>being released in Jan 95 with a 94 catalog number. I might be wrong - it
>didn't show up in the US until February.
>
>Barry
>
>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:23:37 -0700
1252/JIVE BOMBERS, THE/ Bad Boy/When Your Hair Has Turned To...
SAVOY.. 1508.. 1957.. USA.. .. VG+.. 8.00..
wol,plays VG++
is on sale at Paula's House Of Music
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:37:58 -0500
I can't even begin to describe the DCD show here (6/26, Orpheum Theatre), so I
won't...
After the show, though, I struck up a conversation with the sound technician
and managed to get his copy of the setlist. Here goes:
Neirika
Bylar
Rakim
Song of the Dis
Yulunga
Snake + The Moon
Tristan
Sanvean
Greek Rembetiki
Oman
American Dreaming
Indus
Flute Solo
Cantara
------------
Bolero
Tanamakoa
Dreams Made Flesh
There was a break between Tanamakoa and DMF, as I remember...they waited an
abnormally long time before coming back out for encores...the rest is lost in a
dream somewhere.
Aaron
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:50:55 -0700
oteran wrote:
> I can't see 4AD releasing them with the original numbers in a different
> year. Have they ever released stuff with a prior year's catalog
> sequence? Hoping that's not a dumb question, oteran...
The "Funky Little Demons" album from The Wolfgang Press was originally
slated for a fall '94 release with the CAD 4016 number. The album was
pushed back until early '95 and came with the very same '94 number. But,
there's almost TOO many things pushed back to '97 from this year, 4AD may
HAVE to reassign all the numbers from scratch! Only Ivo knows for sure!
The CAD 6013 album from The Jive Bombers is pushed back to '97 and
there's rumor of just an EP from them instead, or with the planned album.
Who knows what's up with 4AD, THE SITE isn't very well maintained...
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 07:47:23 -0800
Any of you listies going to the San Diego appearance of Dead Can Dance
at the Spreckles?
e27
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:11:06 -0700
princess dragonlisa wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance if this has been previous topic, but this is the
> first I've heard of said releases... what's up?? I thought the
> Wolfgang Press was off 4AD for their overcharging at record store
> stunt...
> lisaroo
In theory, these were supposed to come out on 4AD in 1996... but aren't.
CAD 6013 THE JIVE BOMBERS: Bad Boy
A re-release of material this NYC do wop quartet issued on the
Savoy label back in the mid-50's. No joke!!
CAD 6015 PIXIES: Death To The Pixies
A retrospective with live, rare, b-side, and retinkered with
tracks. Charles is actively involved with this reissue.
BAD 6018 PIXIES: Debaser
A two-part CD single release to hype the aforementioned retro
album with a bunch of neat-o b-sides.
# is n/a THE WOLFGANG PRESS: Barry Adamson Remixes
A sort of "greatest hits" as remixed by Mute-man Adamson. Will
it ever come out? The Brendan Perry album will come out first!
Not to mention the limited 10" series of 4AD bands, The Paladins, Gus Gus
and of course the inevitable comeback from one the original 4AD 1980
signings, Red Atkins. Hey, Red - if you're reading this, how the hell
are you, anyways?
Keff Jeibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:14:31 -0800
Here are the dates for the Red House Painters tour, direct from their
press office:
Aug. 20 Berkeley, CA Berkeley Square
Aug. 21 Sacramento, CA Melarky's
Aug. 24 Seattle, WA Tractor
Aug. 28 Minneapolis, MN 7th St. Entry
Aug. 30 Chicago, IL Schuba's
Aug. 31 Ann Arbor, MI Blind Pig
Sept. 1/2 Cleveland, OH TBA
Sept. 3/4 Boston, MA Lansdown Playhouse
Sept. 7 New York, NY Mercury Lounge (CMJ)
e27
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:34:58 EDT
--- You wrote:
Neirika
Bylar
Rakim
Song of the Dis
Yulunga
Snake + The Moon
Tristan
Sanvean
Greek Rembetiki
Oman
American Dreaming
Indus
Flute Solo
Cantara
------------
Bolero
Tanamakoa
Dreams Made Flesh
--- end of quoted material ---
FYI, this was the exact set list that I saw at the Boston show (except with
Yulunga & Rakim reversed)....Lisa and Brendan did not really follow it when
they played in Boston (but the songs are definitely what they were playing).
Barry
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 00:01:13 +0200
Jeff Keibel
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:02:41 -0700
Dewdrops will have a small initial stock (25) of the Faye Wong CD
"Impatience" by the end of the week. If we sell out of these
relatively quickly, we will order more.
We've decided on a price of $13.90 plus $1.60 postage = $15.50.
This is hardly more than what we're paying to
buy them wholesale and mail them, so don't blame us for
the relatively high price. As usual, CA residents need to add
sales tax onto $13.90, for a grand total of $16.55.
I've said a lot about this album on here, and I'll just briefly
mention once again that this is a MUST for any Cocteau Twins
fan. In some ways I believe it's actually better than
Milk and Kisses. And of course there are the many Faye Wong /
Cocteau Twins connections, including the two otherwise
unavailable Cocteau Twins tracks. Speaking of which,
we just might be able to stock the previous CD "Random Thinking"
with the two CT covers as well. We'll know more when the distributor
restocks *their* supply.
We await your orders!
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:24:30 -0700
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