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Subject: chicken pot pie con't
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 20:07:03 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:12:09 -0400
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Dead Can Dance
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:46:42 -0600
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:49:53 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:53:12 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:12:27 -0400
From: Steven Holmes (sbholmes@ALPHA.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:51:01 -0400
From: JT Milhoan (jt@MILHOAN.COM)
Subject: Re: chicken pot pie con't
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:32:00 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: catching up with esp...
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:29:56 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 13:18:25 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: His Game Is A-Muses
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:36:51 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Is that Messr. Oliver?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:54:57 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Auction
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:06:14 -0700
From: dan clegg (dclegg@ELECTRICITI.COM)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:14:48 -0400
From: SonicMindDisease (ebn@UMD.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone? (...and Seattle DCD info)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:41:51 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 03:00:43 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 21:53:11 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: chicken pot pie con't
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 21:22:26 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@hal-pc.org)

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 20:07:03 -0500
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: chicken pot pie con't


TS61822@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> ah wonderful someone else hears chicken pot pie in that one track on
> victorialand. i am glad i am not the only one, and it ruined that song for me
> too

Yeah! Speaking of mundane lyrics, I hear something about "Cherry Coke"
somewhere on _Heaven or Las Vegas_; can't remember where at the moment,
it's been a while. I'm not kidding.  I always thought I was crazy, but
maybe not in light of "chicken pot pie"...

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:12:09 -0400
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp


On Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:03:10 -0700 Reality's email account
 wrote:
>Hey folks,
>
>I'd like to take this moment to float an idea...

>15) Demystification (.) [Cover of ???] - _Single Girl_ single

Cover of Zounds (anarcho-punk outfit on the Crass label)

This CD jobbie sounds like a cool idea, but I can't help you out with any of you
 * tracks.
Sorry!


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:46:42 -0600
From: "Ben T. Willardsen" (bwillard@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Dead Can Dance


Hello all,
  I hadn't heard anything as of yet, but last night's Dead Can Dance
show in SLC was cancelled due to Lisa Gerrard's illness.  Does
anyone know if they will be rescheduling shows?

Ben T. Willardsen
bwillard@xmission.com

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:49:53 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp


I would be interested in purchasing the aforementioned comp upon completion!

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:53:12 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


Maybe we could plan a couple of sites for the fest and some how
internet-link them on a web site with some sort of real-time chat or
video hook up?
Is anybody that techo-fluent?

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:12:27 -0400
From: Steven Holmes (sbholmes@ALPHA.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


LIVONIA..is the only palce this could happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that and its practically in my back yeard...so its the only way..i could
go...hehe
steve


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:51:01 -0400
From: JT Milhoan (jt@MILHOAN.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


"James L. Napiorkowski Jr."  scribed:

>but there is no reason why we couldn't have multiple gatherings in different
>countries on the same day...  perhaps do an online video-teleconference type
>thingie....anyone have the technical know-how an equipment to help embark on
>such an endeavour?

Something the orb and/or their label did was to have an album release
party, but in several cities all over the place.  One representative would
host the party and help publicize it, he/she would get a bag of goodies to
give away, and people would show up.

So rather than dividing it up and limiting it to just a few continents, why
not make it a lot easier and accessible by having 4AD-subFests throughout
the world in several cities, tied together somehow live through something
on the net, even something as basic as IRC or CU-SeeMe.

It wouldn't require much effort, except some help in publicity from the
list members/net community and 4AD to spread the word.  BTW, I'm willing to
help out in any way I can.

JT
jt@milhoan.com


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:32:00 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: chicken pot pie con't


>Yeah! Speaking of mundane lyrics, I hear something about
>"Cherry Coke"
>somewhere on _Heaven or Las Vegas_; can't remember where
>at the moment,
>it's been a while. I'm not kidding.  I always thought I was
>crazy, but
>maybe not in light of "chicken pot pie"...

Yes!!!  It's "Cherry Cola" in "Iceblink Luck"...I've heard it too.
CJ


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:29:56 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: catching up with esp...


hi folks...

yes, i've returned from germany and now need to catch up a li'l.  so,
here's a few defeverish questions...(feel free to respond via private
email)

is the perdition plastics version of esp summer out on cd yet?  if so, how
may i obtain it?

what's the deal with the vinyl version of stars on esp?  monomix?  anyway,
is it worth owning?

what other crazy esp items have been recently and/or will be soon
released?

also, if hk (farrago) happens to read this, *please* contact my
personally, i have a li'l question for you.

esp interview in the new AP is nice....warn makes me giggle.  also nice
reviews from our friend gil g. way to go gil!  (gil, a letter's coming
your way...someday soon)

...back to your regulary scheduled programming...

.mark.


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 13:18:25 -0500
From: Sally Tomato (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...


>is the perdition plastics version of esp summer out on cd yet?  if so, how
>may i obtain it?

Nope, not yet.  According to Mr. D and the Perdition Plastics guy, the CD
won't be out for another month or so (although I must admit that's been the
regular party line for the last... um, nine months or so, but figure
they're busy folks).

>what's the deal with the vinyl version of stars on esp?  monomix?  anyway,
>is it worth owning?

>From what I've been told, it is a different mono mix of the CD.  The sleeve
design is different, and it's also a hair expensive ($18 at Mod Lang last
week, tho' I haven't been able to even find one measly copy here in Texas).

>what other crazy esp items have been recently and/or will be soon
>released?

There's also a mono/wire recorder super no-fi ESP Summer 7" which is
supposedly due out on Perdition Plastics.  Personally I'm kinda waiting for
the full line of ESP Ultraman action figures, but I know I'm setting myself
up for a big disappointment. ;)

>also, if hk (farrago) happens to read this, *please* contact my
>personally, i have a li'l question for you.

Ask away, my good man.

>esp interview in the new AP is nice....warn makes me giggle.  also nice
>reviews from our friend gil g. way to go gil!  (gil, a letter's coming
>your way...someday soon)

Hey, as far as I'm concerned, ya can't get much cooler than warn.

Cheers,


hk

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:36:51 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: His Game Is A-Muses


Date        City          Club              In-store

AUG 10      Prov,RI       Met Cafe            N/A
    13      Boston,MA     Middle East         Newbury Comics(Garage)
    14      NYC,NY        Brownies            HMV(86th St.)
    15      Wash.DC       9:30                Go!Discs(Arlington)
    16      Detroit,MI    7th House           N/A
    17      Chicago,IL    Double Door         TBA
    18      Mnpls,MN      Rev105 Cedarfest    ??
    19      Mnpls,MN      Let It Be           ??
    22      Seattle,WA    Crocodile Cafe      Cellophane Square(U. Dist)
    23      Vancouver,BC  Starfish Room       TBA
    24      Portland,OR   Berbati's Pan       Music Millenium
    25      SF,CA         Bottom of the Hill  Rough Trade(TBC)
    27      LA,CA         Spaceland           Tower Sunset
    29      Denver,CO     Bluebird Thtr.      Wax Trax
    31      Austin,TX     Electric Lounge     (TBC)
SEP  1      New Orleans   Mermaid Lounge      N/A
     3      Atlanta,GA    The Point           Wax 'n Facts
     4      Chpl Hill,NC  Cat's Cradle        (TBC)
     5      Phil,PA       (TBC)               Tower (TBC)
     6      Toronto,ON    The Horseshoe       (TBC)
     7      Montreal,PQ   (TBC)               (TBC)
     8      Brlngtn,VT    Club Toast(TBC)     (TBC)

TBC=To be confirmed
N/A=Not applicable

The cover art for "Limbo" was produced by Gilbert (Beto) Hernandez, best
known for his work on Fantagraphics' Love and Rockets. Release
information is as follows...

     Shark EP (4AD AD 6016/AD D 6016/BAD 6016 CD) - July 29, 1996
     Ruthie's Knocking EP (Throwing Music RCD5-1052) - August 13, 1996
     Limbo (Throwing Music RCD/RAC 10354) - August 13, 1996
     Limbo (4AD CAD 6014 CD/CAD C 6014/CAD 6014) - August 19, 1996

catalog numbers and dates are for North America.

Posted by Matt on August 02, 1996 at 21:33:26:

The rumors are true---4AD recently anounced that Belly has, in fact,
broken up. Tanys has 17 songs already sone for a solo album that will
come out on 4AD. And who is her drummer going to be? David Lovering from
the Pixies! Yay!!!! Can't wait to hear the album....

Don't know what else to say about the '83 demos...Apart from the fact
that they were just that...*demos*...And not meant for release...I think
it should be left to the band's discretion whether or not a demo is fit
for release or not...If it wasn't for thefts back in the early days in
Boston, I doubt demos would be owned by anyone...The '85 cassette will be
released as is... It was an official "release" by the band at the time,
mailed to radio and all (at which time Sinkhole became the #1 College
track in the US!)... As for T and Leslie's parts on the '83 songs...The
songs (especially back then) were almost solely Kristin's vision... David
and KH would play these songs over and over again, up in Dave's attic...
Considering that, I figure it's only fair that it be left up to KH, as to
when a version of a song is final... Leslie wasn't even in the band yet
in '83...People who haven't *heard* old demos, shouldn't *praise* old
demos (imagine someone publishing the diary you kept when you were 15)...
Best, thrilly

Posted by kerina on August 03, 1996 at 05:26:00:

In Reply to: Another Pixies-Throwing Muses collaboration posted by Matt
on August 02, 1996 at 21:33:26:

If he is working with Tanya now, what ever happened to the Martinis? I
never heard anything from them aside from the one song on the Empire
records Soundtrack. I guess that might have been all they released. Too
bad, in a way- I liked that song, but a TD/DL collaboration- THAT sounds
FANTASTIC! I can't wait to hear it!

Tacked together by
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:54:57 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Is that Messr. Oliver?


On the back of the "Universal Frequencies" 7", the bridegroom looks
suspiciously like Vaughan Oliver (of course with the addition of a bad moose
stash and haircut).

Anyone? Anyone?

Does anyone have the e-mail addy for 4AD mailorder (sorry Andie, again). I
seem to have misplaced it.

Danke,

Roy


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:06:14 -0700
From: dan clegg (dclegg@ELECTRICITI.COM)
Subject: Auction


I am trying to sort through my collection (and also pay some bills) so I've
posted some 4AD items I'm auctioning on rec.music.marketplace.vinyl and
rec.music.marketplace.cd.  I know some folks don't like long lists posted
to the mailing list, so I didn't include the items here.  If you are
interested, you can find the posting on Usenet; also I put a copy on my web
page at http://www.electriciti.com/~dclegg or email me and I'll send you a
copy.  There are some hard-to-find goodies in there...

Thanks!

--dan


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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:14:48 -0400
From: SonicMindDisease (ebn@UMD.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...


On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, .mark. wrote:


>
> what other crazy esp items have been recently and/or will be soon
> released?
>

The Shaolin Temple Record label has released in the past the ESP
Beetles/Jennifer Wolski split 7" (featuring Warren, Davin, Matt, and
others) and we also have released the Melody Farm EP featuring His Name
Is Alive and LIttle Princess. Both are available from the Shaolin Temple
for $3 ($5 overseas). Cash preferred; make checks payable to David Pozniak.

grasshopper

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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:41:51 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone? (...and Seattle DCD info)

              of Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:13:22 +0000

>   WOW!!!!, I didn't know that the USA was the center of
>   the world.... Anyway, i like the idea but on a
>   geographic point, i think there should be a festival in
>   the USA, one in Europe, one in Asia, one in Australia,
>   one in South America, and maybe one in outer space...

I'll organize the one in outer space!  If you're interested in coming, please
send me e-mail and i'll put you on the list to get a personaly reminder/invite
when the time comes.

-SPAcz

cz@u.washington.edu

there's a DCD after hours party following the show at Machine Werks (112 5th
Ave. N.) by the seattle center.  It features "4AD, Ethereal, Gothic, " etc.
music.  From 10pm-4am (full bar before 2).  I won't be there till 2 am 'cuz my
DCD partner is underage--but i'll see you there.


Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 03:00:43 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: catching up with esp...


>what other crazy esp items have been recently and/or will be soon
>released?

There was a cassette released on Generator, a few months ago:

ESP Beetles 'Spinnerin' (FRG-023)

Available at $ 4,- (USA)/$ 5,- (outside USA), incl. postage, from:

Generator,
P.O. Box 581277,
Minneapolis,
MN 55458-1277

And from Parasol.

Frank


++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
www.pi.net/~frankbri
++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 21:53:11 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp


I do have tinkerbell (volume 10) and access to a DAT recorder.  Will be
more than happy to contribue.  Also have Childcatcher from volume, but
not sure how different it is from the album version.  Also Spooky
(undertow Remix).

This IS EXCELLENT!!!

Alex


Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 21:22:26 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@hal-pc.org)
Subject: Re: chicken pot pie con't


> > ah wonderful someone else hears chicken pot pie in that one track on
> > victorialand. i am glad i am not the only one, and it ruined that song for m

> > too
>
> Yeah! Speaking of mundane lyrics, I hear something about "Cherry Coke"
> somewhere on _Heaven or Las Vegas_; can't remember where at the moment,
> it's been a while. I'm not kidding.  I always thought I was crazy, but
> maybe not in light of "chicken pot pie"...
>
I hear all that stuff, too, and I think it's pretty funny.  What kind
of fucking loser has a song ruined for them because of the inanity of
the lyrics, especially a song by the cocteau twins?  Didn't listening
to the twins teach you anything about the [lack of] importance of
song lyrics?  It's the vox, not the words, stupid!  If you want
"meaningful" lyrics go listen to "classic/protest" rock on the radio
and begone from here!  What a joke.

moran@hal-pc.org


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