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Subject: His Fame Is A Hive
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 06:22:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Victorialand
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:41:31 -0400
From: e pericoloso sporgersi (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Victorialand
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 12:22:09 -0400
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Red House Painters, Vic Chesnutt, Kristin Hersh,
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:51:51 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Victorialand
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:52:47 -0500
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: His Fame Is A Hive
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 09:59:13 -0700
From: "Paul C. Drahn" (pdrahn@SEANET.COM)
Subject: Re: His Fame Is A Swan (On Glass) Dive
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:11:11 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins Pie
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:26:26 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:03:10 -0700
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Rachel's and RHP in Detroit area
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:38:47 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:38:50 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:13:22 +0000
From: "StephaneSommet@Creme Brulee" (zouzou@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 20:07:03 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:29:41 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 06:22:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: His Fame Is A Hive


"...what are you wearing the day AFTER tomorrow??"

Well, I walked into Tower Records Friday afternoon and was immediately
offended when I noticed that their was a Livonia section and that their
"His Name Is Alive" album proudly on display.  Hmmmm, are Livonia a new
band on 4AD?  It was the UK import, too!  I went to the manager and
demanded that this "error" be fixed.

After that, I asked the person at the order desk to look out for that new
Japanese Lush compilation.  The order desk girl went into her database
and looked in her CD International book and responded with, "We don't
have a listing on that title".  I told her it was a new release, not even
out until August 31st but she continued to tell me that it doesn't exist,
which, technically is right but, jeeeez...

Oh the pain!!!

To take away my anger I went to Tower's magazine area and checked out
their s&m/bondage section.  Pretty big section.  The new issue of "Ropes
and Razors" has an article on painless self-mutilation...  Fun stuff!

I finally picked up the CD version of "Stars on ESP", the UK edition.  I
prefer the CD sound to the apparently mono mix on the vinyl.  What bugs
me is that, not only are there different covers for the vinyl and CD but
that the US CD has a different cover image!  I can't keep up with it all,
let alone get the new ESP Swamp and ESP Raccoon limited 10" picture
discs!  Despite all that, "Stars On ESP" is one damn fine album!

The first 1,000 copies of the Canadian version of Lisa Germano's
"Excerpts From A Love Circus" (Sept. 11th) are released in a special
collectors' digipack.  Cool stuff!

The new "Rolling Stone" has very complimentary reviews of "Limbo" from
Throwing Muses and "Songs For A Blue Guitar" by Red House Painters.  And,
the AP with Dead Can Dance on the cover has a nice blow up of the "Limbo"
cover art.  The "Shark" single is on TWO 7"-ers just to make it even more
fun to be a collector, not too mention a Ryko "Ruthie's Knocking" CD...

The rumor is that there is already plans for a Tanya Donelly solo album
by the end of '95.  Now that Belly is split up, I wonder if 4AD will put
together a definitive Belly B-side, remix and demo compilation?

Does anyone know who is opening for Lush's current North American tour?
The ads only say "guests", so I assume it will be The Jive Bombers and
Red Atkins.  But if anyone can confirm actual openers, I'd super
appreciate it!

I have resigned myself to the fact that I'll never "finish" my 4AD
collecton.  I'll just have to be proud of what I do have and be happy
knowing my collection is different than anyone elses and that others' are
different than mine.  Well, with that said, here is my capsule "want

AXIS     3  BAUHAUS:  Dark Entries  7"

AXIS     4  SHOX:  No Turning Back  7"

BAD 806 CD  ULTRA VIVID SCENE:  She Screamed  CD single

BAD 910 CD  PALE SAINTS:  Barging Into The Presence Of God  CD single

Has anyone recieved their copies of the "This Rimy River" deluxe edition
yet?  I'm curious as to what everyone thinks of it.  Does it have
"essential purchase" status?  Also, does anyone have a vinyl copy of
scheer's "Infliction"?  I'm keeping mine sealed.  I just need a
description of the inner jacket and labels...

Well, that's all for now.  Take care, fellow 4AD-ers...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:41:31 -0400
From: e pericoloso sporgersi (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Victorialand


>hk
>[for whom the words "chicken pot pie" ruined 'Victorialand' forever...]

Chicken pot pie?! Which track is that on?


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 12:22:09 -0400
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Victorialand


ah wonderful someone else hears chicken pot pie in that one track on
victorialand. i am glad i am not the only one, and it ruined that song for me
too


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:51:51 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Red House Painters, Vic Chesnutt, Kristin Hersh,

              Polly Jean Harvey (to name a few)

I just bought the latest Red House Painters cd: great album, very nice
sleeve (I'm glad they asked v23/Paul McMenamin), Ivo and John in the thank
you credits - just like a 4AD release... I know the background but I still
don't get it.

---

Oh and... check out this site:


for more info about:

Sweet Relief II - Gravity Of The Situation The Songs Of Vic Chesnutt

Kristin Hersh performs Vic's beautiful "Panic Pure"

Other artists include: REM, Smashing Pumpkins, Red Red Meat, LIVE, Soul
Asylum, Nanci Griffith with Hootie & the Blowfish, Cracker, Joe Henry &
Madonna, Victoria Williams & Vic Chesnutt, Garbage, Indigo Girls, dog's eye
view, Mary Margaret O'Hara and Sparklehorse.

---

You should also:

Tune in this Sunday, August 4th to MTV's 120 Minutes for the Sweet Relief
II special that will be airing. Special will include performance footage
from the show at The Bottom Line in NYC, interview segments with artists
involved as well as clips affiliated with the project.

----

Vic is performing live in The Hague (Netherlands) on September 13 on some
'Music and Spoken Word' project together with the Throwing Muses and a few
others. If it's not cancelled it's going to be fun.

----

And there's more... for more info about this:

Island Records releases a collaboration album by John Parish and Polly Jean
Harvey on September 24th.

Titled "Dance Hall at Louse Point", the album has eleven new compositions,
each with music by Parish and words by Harvey, and a cover of the Peggy Lee
standard, "Is That All There Is?" which features a guest appearance from
Mick Harvey of The Bad Seeds.

...you should surf to:


---


That's all for now,


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, August 3, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:52:47 -0500
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: Victorialand


I think that track "Little Spacey" is one of the most fun they have ever
recorded.  I heard chicken pot pie as well, when i first bought it, and i
thought that was really funny...it surely didnt ruin it for me, rather
enhanced it.  I hope they really do say it, cuz the cox really have a goofy
sense of humor and this would surely fit in with that.


At 12:22 PM 8/3/96 -0400, you wrote:
>ah wonderful someone else hears chicken pot pie in that one track on
>victorialand. i am glad i am not the only one, and it ruined that song for me
>too
>
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 09:59:13 -0700
From: "Paul C. Drahn" (pdrahn@SEANET.COM)
Subject: Re: His Fame Is A Hive


Jeff Keibel wrote:


> The rumor is that there is already plans for a Tanya Donelly solo album
> by the end of '95.  Now that Belly is split up, I wonder if 4AD will put
> together a definitive Belly B-side, remix and demo compilation?
The end of '95?  Wow, that was quick!  I guess that's kind of like saying, "I WA
T IT YESTERDAY!" 8)

(smartass)
Jon


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:11:11 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: His Fame Is A Swan (On Glass) Dive


Jon wroted, like...

> The end of '95?  Wow, that was quick!  I guess that's kind of like > saying, "
 WANT IT YESTERDAY!" 8)
>
> (smartass)

Thanks for catching my "95 instead of 96" error...  I caught it soon as I
hit "send".  Oh well, life goes on...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
NORTH OF USA


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:26:26 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins Pie


Gerry, Livia and Toni,

There is a discussion brewing on 4ad-l about how on Cocteau Twins'
"Little Spacey" there is a percieved lyric that Liz sings that sounds TOO
much like "chicken pot pie"!!  Go ahead and listen to it closely and see!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:03:10 -0700
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: fLUSH II: a lush rareties comp


Hey folks,

I'd like to take this moment to float an idea and see what interest
there is.  A few years ago, I put together a compilation tape of
lush rareties called _fLUSH_.  I basically took all the rare tracks
in my collection and combined it with contributions from others
and made a few 110 minute tapes of b-sides, comps, and live bootleg
material.

Well, I now have access to one of those "CD burners" that make "one
time write" CDs.  So, I'm thinking of doing _fLUSH II: the CDs_.
The catch is that the way it is set up, I can only use digital
sources (CD or DAT).  So, at the moment, I'm only considering tracks
that are available on CD.  However, if anybody has a DAT recorder,
let me know! (It would be cool to have "Rupert the Bear" and the
Drum Club remixes on CD!)

What I am thinking of is a 2 disc set with the songs listed below.
The problem is that only own CD copies of about half the songs.
I will need to borrow the ones marked with a *.  Here's the deal
for contributors:  You send me the CD with the song(s) in question,
plus the $$$ for 2 blank CD-writeables.  I'll create _fLUSH II_
then send you back your original plus _fLUSH II_.  I don't expect
to make any money off this, nor do I think I should.

Right now this is just in the planning stages, but if you are
interested and you have a CD with one of the tracks I am missing,
please let me know.

Another note... I haven't included the b-sides which are on _Cookie_.
I expect I will delete whatever songs are on the forthcoming Japanese
mini-album, too.  But, we'll see what other folks want to do.

fLUSH II, the CD

1) de-luxe (alternate single edit) - U.S. promo
2) chirpy chirpy cheep cheep [cover] _Alvin Lives in Leeds_
*3) breeze - Peel sessions
4) superblast! [remix] - U.S. promo
5) outdoor miner [Wire cover] - For Love e.p.
6) astronaut - For Love e.p.
7) fallin' in love - Black Spring e.p.
*8) desire lines (demo) - _13 Year Itch_
*9) tinkerbell (demo) (3.16) - _Volume 10_
10) starlust (live) (4.30) - _in a field of their own_
11) Tinkerbell (.) - _Single Girl_ single
12) Outside World (.) - _Single Girl_ single
13) Cul De Sac (.) - _Single Girl_ single
14) Pudding (.) - _Single Girl_ single
15) Demystification (.) [Cover of ???] - _Single Girl_ single
16) Shut Up (.) - _Single Girl_ single
17) Heavenly (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
18) Carmen (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
19) Plums and Oranges (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
20) Matador (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
21) Ex (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
22) Dear Me (.) - _Ladykillers_ single
23) I have the Moon (.) [cover of Magnetic Fields] - _500_ single
24) Piledriver (.) - _500_ single
25) Olympia (Acoustic Version) (.) - _500_ single
26) I'd Like to Walk Around in Your Mind (.) - _500_ single
27) Kiss Chase(Acoustic Version) (.) - _500_ single
28) Last Night(Hexidecimal Mix) (.) - _500_ single
*29) tinkerbell (demo) (3.16)  - _Volume 10_ single
30) the childcatcher (3.07) - _All Virgos Are Mad_
*31) mannequin (.) [cover of Wire] - _Whore_ comp
*32) half and half (.) - _Volume 16_ comp
*33) Last Night (Steve Osbourne mix) ( . ) - _Lovelife-Sampled_ promo
*34) Last Night (Latent Power Mix) (5.23) - _Last Night_ promo
*35) Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix) (4.57) - _Last Night_ promo
*36) Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95) (3.14) - _Last Night_ promo
*37) "All This Useless Beauty" [E. Costello cover] - "Distorted Angel" single

Reality

Please reply to "mcclure@mugwump.ucsd.edu".

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:38:47 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Rachel's and RHP in Detroit area


thought I'd let my  fellow Detroit listies know about some up n coming shows
in the area~~

Rachel's with Metro Shifter August 21 at Magic Stick

and...


Red House Painters      Sat August 31 at the Blind Pig

anyone else planning on going????

~   quis

Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:38:50 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: 4ADfanfest anyone?


You know, the 2 years I've been on this list, it seems we've all made alot
of friend from all over the world....  granted we've had our differences and
name bashing, but you have to admit we all share a common nterest...and passion


So I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having a large festival
of sorts...sorta like "All Virgo's..."  only organized by the fans.
Certainly to be the first gathering for a record label that I know of
created by the fans if we did such a thing.


I'm sure some of us even have connections to some of the band members that
we could invite as well....

I'm sure it would take some planning by a few volunteers, probably for a
summer '97 goal or something like that.... perhaps somewhere central...
Chicago, Kansas even?  or maybe New York?   or even Livonia?

I was just wondering what everyone thought of it....

~  quis

(formerly The Blue Bell's Knoll (blubelknol@aol.com)  yes E,  I'm giving up
AOL!)


well maybe not entirely yet~


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:13:22 +0000
From: "StephaneSommet@Creme Brulee" (zouzou@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


At 10:38 PM 8/3/96 +0000, you wrote:
>You know, the 2 years I've been on this list, it seems we've all made alot
>of friend from all over the world....  granted we've had our differences and
>name bashing, but you have to admit we all share a common nterest...and passion
>
>
>So I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having a large festival
>of sorts...sorta like "All Virgo's..."  only organized by the fans.
>Certainly to be the first gathering for a record label that I know of
>created by the fans if we did such a thing.
>
>
>I'm sure some of us even have connections to some of the band members that
>we could invite as well....
>
>I'm sure it would take some planning by a few volunteers, probably for a
>summer '97 goal or something like that.... perhaps somewhere central...
>Chicago, Kansas even?  or maybe New York?   or even Livonia?
>
>I was just wondering what everyone thought of it....

WOW!!!!, I didn't know that the USA was the center of the world.... Anyway,
i like the idea but on a geographic point, i think there should be a
festival in the USA, one in Europe, one in Asia, one in Australia, one in
South America, and maybe one in outer space...


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 20:07:03 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


>
> WOW!!!!, I didn't know that the USA was the center of the world.... Anyway,
> i like the idea but on a geographic point, i think there should be a
> festival in the USA, one in Europe, one in Asia, one in Australia, one in
> South America, and maybe one in outer space...


o.k. now i'm the *last* person to claim that the states are the centre of
the universe or even this little speck of a planet, but i would also have
to say that a project like this would take more than a bit of planning
and would probably not be some sort of intergalactic tour.
i think it is a fine idea.  i also think that location(s) would depend a
whole big lot on where the bands are prepared to be.  my guess is that
since it's already really really difficult (for lots of reasons) to get
bands to tour australia when they are already playing around the planet,
chances are to get them there for a one off is even more unlikely.

that said, please prove me wrong.  i'm not in any way saying australia
(or anywhere else *shouldn't* by rights be a tour location)... if
anything it would make for a fine change to see this located in a place
that would not commonly get the shows (and it isn't unheard of for bands
to play australia already).  so i vote melbourne, everyone start saving
your pennies (francs, lire, pesos, pence, etc...).

jenna.

Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 00:29:41 +0000
From: "James L. Napiorkowski Jr." (Quisquose@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: 4ADfanfest anyone?


At 04:13 PM 03/08/96 +0000, you wrote:
>At 10:38 PM 8/3/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>You know, the 2 years I've been on this list, it seems we've all made alot
>>of friend from all over the world....  granted we've had our differences and
>>name bashing, but you have to admit we all share a common nterest...and
passion
>>
>>
>>So I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having a large festival
>>of sorts...sorta like "All Virgo's..."  only organized by the fans.
>>Certainly to be the first gathering for a record label that I know of
>>created by the fans if we did such a thing.
>>
>>
>>I'm sure some of us even have connections to some of the band members that
>>we could invite as well....
>>
>>I'm sure it would take some planning by a few volunteers, probably for a
>>summer '97 goal or something like that.... perhaps somewhere central...
>>Chicago, Kansas even?  or maybe New York?   or even Livonia?
>>
>>I was just wondering what everyone thought of it....
>
>WOW!!!!, I didn't know that the USA was the center of the world.... Anyway,
>i like the idea but on a geographic point, i think there should be a
>festival in the USA, one in Europe, one in Asia, one in Australia, one in
>South America, and maybe one in outer space...
>

ok, just to clarify things... my original reason for having it in the states
is that i believe the majority of list members live in the states....

but there is no reason why we couldn't have multiple gatherings in different
countries on the same day...  perhaps do an online video-teleconference type
thingie....anyone have the technical know-how an equipment to help embark on
such an endeavour?

~  quis

and spread the word on the differnet online companies as well who don't have
access or don't know about the list such as AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe, that
lil thing called Genie and WOW! and the BBS's too!