Subject: Steal these CDs
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil
Subject: Re: Music papers
Subject: Music papers
Subject: E Costello / Lush
Subject: Re: Music papers
Subject: Re: Why Does Liz Hate "Song to the Siren"?
Subject: Lush's mini album
Subject: Re: Music papers
Subject: Re: Wanna buy some Young Marble Giants stuff...
Subject: Re: FSOL
Subject: Dead Can Dance in Sante Fe, NM
Subject: Subject: E Costello / Lush
Subject: king of sweet
Subject: Re: beardless Brenden
Subject: Re: Desperately seeking 70s info
Subject: Re: Music papers
Subject: Re: Desperately seeking '70s info
Subject: Re: Various Reviews 2
Subject: Duraflow?
Subject: Re: Music papers
Subject: Ian Masters (ex-Pale Saints) 7" record for sale!
Subject: SONG TO A SIREN and DAVID LYNCH
Subject: Re: not finding HNIA...
Subject: the telescopes
Subject: new Disco Inferno?
Subject: Sebadoh mailorder only 7"
Subject: Re: Lush's mini album
Subject: 12 inch 87 anthology
Subject: cocteau mailing list?
Subject: Re: not finding HNIA...
Subject: that e-bow thing again...
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:43:15 -0500
Help provide a loving home for the following CD's, orphaned by shrinking
shelving and my evolving tastes:
Bel Canto - Magic Box promo copy - min bid $3
Etherial duo gets earthy
Heidy Berry - Heidy Berry - min bid $6
I'll toss in Distant Thunder promo w/2 unreleased tracks.
Big Hat - Taqueria Del Muerte - min bid $6
Swansong of bazaar Siouxsiephiles. Quaint felt liner notes.
Dos - Uno con Dos - min bid $6
Mostly playful instrumental bass duo's by Mike Watt and wife Kira.
Dos - Justamente Tres - min bid $6
Kira's untutored lyrics and vocals predominate, though good bass work.
Laika - Antenna EP - min bid $6
2 vers of "Marimba song", 1 great & 1 duff non-LP sampladelic tracks.
Joni Mitchell - Hejira - min bid $6
Joni's 1976 travelogue w/ Jaco on bass. Wistful.
Portishead - "Sour Times (Nobody loves me)" US single - min bid $3
3 x Sour times, great Numbed mix, Monk tribute and film themes
Scorn - Gyral - min bid $6
Dubby trip-hop by Mick Harris. Gloomy.
The World of Skin - The World of Skin - min bid $12
Out of print CD compiling 1st 2 albums by Swans side project. Dour.
The World of Skin - Ten Sons for Another World - min bid $6
Gira and Jarboe ponder parasitism and stolen innocence. How novel.
Send bids to [email protected]
For most of these, I expect them to go to the first respondants for the
listed minimum bid, but will assess bids for a few days, just in case
demand exceeds supply. Shipping will be $2 for any size order.
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 07:19:17 -0400
>Can someone please, please, please tell me where I can get >the "This
>Mortal Coil" US box set?
You can order it from Tower Records on-line, which means they must have it/be
able to get it in the store.
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:12:38 EDT
--- cz wrote:
The fact that Rolling Stone and Spin are not like NME and MM points
more to the fact the popular tastes in music are different in the US than they
are in the UK (... and less "thislisty").
--- end of quoted material ---
Ooooo...I have to disagree with this. The UK has a popular music scene that
could be labelled, at times, as being just as or more dismal than that of the
US. The next time you read NME or MM, check out the "regular" charts. The top
records are really no better than the top American charts. Sure, a great album
may pop up now and then, but the UK has a pop music scene very much like ours.
The point I'm trying to make is that we do not have papers like NME and MM, but
the UK does have papers like Rolling Stone and Spin. Rolling Stone is NOT our
equivalent of NME. We really don't have one. AP and Option are monthly and
don't contain a fraction of the release information that the UK weeklies do.
Barry
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:27:21 BST
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 05:42:56 PDT
I have just seen an interview with Elvis costello on UH-1 (or something), a
satelite channel I happened to be watching (not mine). Didn't show much of his n
w
material (except one song "It's Time"), but he did say he has wanted to work wit
Lush for quite a while. I was wondering if this is based on the new material or
heir
ealier stuff. They did show an excerpt from 500. Also featured a Nearly God vide
in the same interview, another band he will be working with.
Anybody heard this collaboration yet?? I didn't fancy "It's time", a voice and a
acoustic 6 string.
Chris
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:34:19 +0200
>sorts of bands we tend to like on this list are unlikely to attract
>positive attention from the powers that be in radio and TV. But the music
>papers can certainly give them a big lift until they are unignorable by TV
>and radio.
mmmh... well, in my ambient tv passages are seen like a "corruption": if you
go to tv then you are mainstream, then you suck.
I see that people enjoy to find "rare" bands, when they become too famous,
and everybody start talking of them, the kind of fan I'm talking feel like
betrayed.
>been discussed here) I have often heard non-Brits complaining that there is
>no equivalent in their own country. They say that we are lucky to have any
>source of info. on non-chart bands. Surely it's worse to have no access to
I am a non brit that imes ago thought it was bad not to have papers like the
nme or mm, but have changed my mind. First I was youger of ten years,
second ten years ago they was not into hype like now.
one of the main reasons I liked these papers, and I still like the idea of
papers like these now, is that they are big sized, full of colour, and, most
important, weekly. The paragonable press we have in Italy come in A4 bw
monthly mags, that do their best to provide a vast coverage but for their
monthly frequency become more a point of arrival instead of start for news
and bands. being there is more like a celebration more than introduction.
there is also to say tht the italian alternative market (alternaive to
mainstream hyped neomelodic popular singers, like Sanremo acts, or foreign
"trasgressive" but now indulgently accepted groups like U2, simple minds,
springsteen...) is of little relevance compared to the british one, or the
german one, that is, in my opinion, very prone to hyping.
the difference is that it seem that germans "believe" to hype, while it's
like brits say "let's play this game and let's buy or like the bands bring
up by hyping until they last". they know it's hype but they wish for hype
anyway. it's like they think to be the active part of hyping. maybe it's
just an impression, anyway.
personally, I don't buy nor trust NME or MM anymore, apart if I see a
particular feature, and it did not happen in the last year. I think this
hyping game is becoming too much relevant, and I see the bands I like
treated like old stupid grandfathers that don't want to understand that now
is time to regrown stupid haircuts, then being neopsychedelic with stupid
looks, then dressing this or this other way.
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:17:37 EST
Hey there;
quick story here, people: a friend of mine told me that she had a smiths
video from a
show in spain, and i asked to borrow it. she mentioned that at
the end of
the smiths show, i would see some videos from some unknown bands.
it turned out that those unknown videos were actually "Song to the
Siren", and "Pearly
Dewdrops' Drops"! it was excellenet. though i don't have the
video here
with me (my friend borrowed it back), but it was indeed from some
tv show,
and they named they TMC, rather than CT.
JHR
On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:43:04 -0700 Dewdrops Records
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 01:27:51 +0900
Nippon Columbia will release a mini album of LUSH on 31 August, maybe
celebrating their show at Tokyo in September.
Cat # COCY-80351. Price 2000 yen, a little lower than ordinary CDs.
Title and tracks are unknown.
Maybe a compilation of recent cd singles and 7" ??
BTW, does anyone know whether LUSH will play at Osaka or Nagoya after Tokyo ?
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:13:12 EDT
Simon Hughes wrote:
>I don't think that's true. It may be that "popular tastes" in the UK are,
>for example, slightly more "thislisty" than in the US but they're still
>very un-"thislisty"! Popular taste in the UK has considerably more in
>common with popular taste in the US than the tastes of those on this list,
>imho.
I really don't think that's true any more. With obvious MOR exceptions like
Celine Dion, Mariah Carey and Alanis Morrissette, the bulk of the stuff popular
in the UK is more in tune with European tastes than US. House, Techno, Handbag,
Europop mean zilch over there, but sell bucketloads here and in Europe.
Similarly, the likes of Underworld, Orbital, Leftfield sell loads here -
diddly-squat over there. And, although it's nothing to be proud of, all the
Britpop bands and bastard sons of Paul 'irritating-as-fuck' Weller mean little
in the US. Meanwhile, Hootie and the what? would be the most common reaction in
the street in the UK. Names like Blues Traveler, Phish, Dave Matthews Band -
like who the fuck are these people? I can honestly say I've never heard a note
from any of them. Anyway, my original point was that the musical taste of the US
and Europe is more different now than it ever has been.
- Dez
PS I would say that it even applies to the list. I would say that there is a
reasonable correlation between Cocteau-philes and phobes and their continent. I
would even be so bold as to say that the Europeans are the Muses/Pixies/Lush
fans and the Americans the DCD/Cocteaus/Xymox fans. Gross generalisation, of
course, but I reckon there's something in it.
PPS Apologies to Asians, Africans and Oceanians on the list for not including
you in my sweeping statements. :-)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 01:28:31 +0900
CD connection (cdconnection.com) had "Collosal Youth" in their list about a
year ago. I don't know whether they still have. The cd can be found
everywhere, for it was reissued several times. Is "Wanna buy a Bridge" a
compilation of YMG/GIST/WEEKEND ?? If so, I want to know, too.
At 10:52 PM 96.7.27 -0400, Bob wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone knew where i could possibly get a copy of the
>Young Marble Giants album "Collasal Youth", and also the Rough Trade
>compilation "Wanna buy a Bridge"....
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:52:24 -0700
>having heard FSOL=B4s Lifeforms single, my reaction was one of HUGE =
amazement!
>I really liked it (even though is 2 years old). So is the Lp Lifeforms as
>good as the single? Also, can someone give me some suggestions for a FSOL =
lp
>worth getting?
I found the full (double-CD) album quite uninteresting; I couldn't =
focus on it at all. As soon as something interesting started to =
happen, it would drift off into more noodling.
"Accelerator" is a nice album, definitely more techno-like. It =
includes the classic "Papua New Guinea" with its Lisa Gerrard sample. =
It's just been re-released in the US so it should be more widely =
available now (nice holographic cover, too!)
If you like this kind of stuff I can also recommend "Excursions In =
Ambience" (vol. 1) which has a lot of nice ambient-techno stuff, =
including one of the other tracks from "Accelerator", as well as both =
volumes of "Feed Your Head" on Planet Dog (#2 is slightly better.)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:01:00 PDT
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone on this list will be attending tonight's
show in Sante Fe? I just moved to Albuquerque, and will be attending
alone. Anyone else wanna go???
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:46:48 +0500
the deal is lush and elvis costello have both agreed to cover a song from
each other. i don't know when the E. Costello cover will be realeased nor
do i know even what song it is but the Lush cover will be one (among
other covers from other bands) of the b-sides to one of the single from
"this useless beauty" album.
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:25:53 -0700
I've got a copy of HNIA's King of Sweet (#1552) and want to trade it for
anything
by Area other than Fragments of the Morning.
please email if interested -
quinn
[email protected]
ps - HNIA is apparently going to be performing at a local (phoenix area)
record shop called Stinkweeds on sept. 3rd.
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:58:06 EDT
96 11:18 am
>
> >the summer tour dates for Dead Can Dance, plus a nice picture of the
> >two of them.
>
> I saw somewhere a sort of Brendan without beard, am I right? and a Lisa
> muuuch thinner than on the video...
>
Yes, you are right. Brenden no longer has his beard. I saw them on
the 10th and was surprised to see that when he walked on stage.
However, he was donning a little scruff. Maybe he's letting it grow
again.
As for Lisa appearing thinner...I always saw her as slender. But it's
hard to tell since they usually photograph her from the shoulders on
up; and when she is concert, she always wearing that white flowy
dress.
Holly
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:13:25 +0200
-0400
Italian priests in custard Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:40:16 -0700
i wrote:
> >Now, i've heard that too in the US *but* i really don't understand it.
> >Sure we have our equivalent of the NME and MM, we get NME and MM at most
> >decent newstands.
Simon Hughes asked:
> Are they easily available wherever you live, as NME/MM are to 99% of the UK
> population? Are they expensive (my recollection is that they cost quite a
> few dollars, don't they)?
Yeah, they're not cheap *but* they are available most places.
> >Of
> >course we do, we have the lame-butt (IMHO) Rolling Stone and Spin to cover
> >our popular culture and a myriad of mags to cover the increasingly less
> >alternative alternative music (including Alternative Press and Option as
> >the most widely distributed options).
>
> Are these latter magazines easily available?
Yep. These are available everywhere. Heck they even had Option at the
Madison, Wisconsin public library.
> I think if NME/MM were to cater to popular taste in this country,
> they'd be very different papers.
That's interesting, i hadn't really considered this.
> In any case that doesn't help those who bemoan the lack of US equivalents
> (covering interesting music *at an affordable price*). Maybe these people
> need to get hold of mags like Alternative Press and Option but what you
> write above suggests these aren't nearly as adventurous in their coverage
> as NME/MM.
Well, due to the fact that they cover a much broader geographic region AND
come out monthly they can't possibly delve into such depths of
latebreaking news, gossip, tour info, etc. that you can get in a weekly
in one geographic region. Of course, many regions have their own weekly free
entertainment papers (Seattle has three: Rocket, Stranger, and Seattle Weekly)
. Option & AP's features tend to be somewhere between adventurous and
pandering (a little of each, as i suspect NME & MM are too) but the focus is
more on album/singles reviews and they can be acceptably adventurous there.
-cz
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:15:54 +0200
Dez <[email protected]> writes:
> Faust were a seminal band, along with Can, Popol Vuh, Amon Duul II and Neu.
> There's a good Krautrock primer in this week's Melody Maker written by Simon
> Reynolds, or alternatively there's Julian 'mad-bastard' Cope's book
> 'Krautrocksampler'.
Is there a Krautrock revival going on that I'm happened upon?
> For people who think Stereolab are cutting edge, this stuff
> is essential listening - it exposes them as the pretty weak plagiarists that
> they are. I would recommend the following albums:
>
> Ege Bamyasi, Monster Movie, Tago Mago, Future Days by Can (or alternatively th
> two compilations, Cannibalism I and II)
> The Faust Tapes and Faust by Faust
> Phallus Dei by Amon Duul 2
> Neu, Neu 2 or Neu 75 (or the compilation Black Forest Gateau) by Neu.
I think I must have seen albums by all these regularly in second hand
stores, but I have never bought any of them. I think I'll be keeping
my eyes peeled for them from now on.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
[email protected] * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:37:39 -0400
>
> Sebadoh - Beauty Of The Ride (Domino)
> Early reports suggest that Sebadoh's forthcoming album 'Harmacy' may well be
> their best yet. If it's better than 'Bakesale', then it's going to be some
> record. 'Beauty Of The Ride' is the first taster from it. It's a classic Lou
> Barlow song (but then most Lou Barlow songs are classic Lou Barlow songs) -
> short, crunchy, and with a hell of a tune. On the early records, Jason's songs
> were less than highlights, but then he came up with 'Careful' and it's been
> plain sailing since then - 'Sixteen' is great punk-pop. Third track is a cover
> of Will 'Palace' Oldham's 'Riding' - a paen to brother/sister incest. It lacks
> the world-weariness of the original, which is hardly surprising since nobody
> sounds as world-weary as Will Oldham. The quartet of tunes is made up by
> 'Slintstrumental' which isn't really as Slint-like as they might like to think
> but it's pleasant enough.
>
the new sebadoh is not as hard rockin as bakesale. i like it very much.
maybe it will grow for me, but as we speak, it's not bakesale yet.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:47:41 -0700
Anyone heard of a San Francisco band called Duraflow? I caught the tail
end of a song by them on the radio -- very nice shoegazery stuff,
reminiscent of early Chapterhouse but with more of a psychedelic/Beatles
feel (think "I am the Walrus" or "A Day In the Life".) I think the song
was called "Afterglow" or something like that.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:49:21 -0400
On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, C. Kemnitz wrote:
> > Are they easily available wherever you live, as NME/MM are to 99% of the UK
> > population? Are they expensive (my recollection is that they cost quite a
> > few dollars, don't they)?
>
> Yeah, they're not cheap *but* they are available most places.
Um, maybe where *you* live...
[AP & Option]
> Yep. These are available everywhere. Heck they even had Option at the
> Madison, Wisconsin public library.
In Albany NY, these are *slightly* easier to find than the British
papers. Meaning I can take one bus to Media Play for them
as opposed to taking one bus and then walking half an hour
to Borders to pick up MM and NME. I'd be willing to put money
on there being plenty of other smallish cities & towns where
you just can't get them at all.
No offense, but the whole US isn't Madison Wisconsin.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:12:29 -0700
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Date: 30 Jul 1996 08:49:41 GMT
Hi, just a note to let you know that Ian Masters, former singer and
bassist for Pale Saints, and later of Spoonfed Hybrid, has a new 7"
released on Derby Records. To order, send $4.00 (US) or $5.00 (outside US)
postpaid, to the following address:
Derby Records
12331 Adelle Street
Garden Grove, CA 92641
The single is closer in sound to Spoonfed Hybrid than Pale Saints...more
in the electronic, ambient vein. Very good and recommended for any fans of
his work with either band.
Check it out and tell 'em Mike sent you!
-Mike
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:12:57 -0400
i think i might have posted this earlier, but i don't see the message in
my sent mail.
this mortal coil's "song to a siren" will be in the new david
lynch film "lost highway." it stars bill pullman (who had to learn how to
play saxophone and will be playing in the movie...4AD recording
contract???) patricia arquette, balthazar getty, richard pryor, robert
blake, and others.
from sight and sound, july...
Sweeney puts up another sequence, a single shot lasting three-and-a-half
minutes. It's night. A cabin in the desert is burning ferociously. But
something isn't quite right. The spare, painfully melancholic strains of
This Mortal Coil's version of Tim Buckley's "Song to a Siren" accompanies
the conflagration. It could have been composed for the sequence. But now
it's clear that the flames are retreating. The sequence has been shot in
revearse, and the song is ending. The delicate voice of Elisabeth Fraser
almost whispers its closing promise: "Here I am. Here I am. Waiting to
hold you." The cabin now stands, completely intact, alone in the dark
desert. A small light above the door glimmers like a distant beacon.
Lynch is back... we've been waiting... i can't wait
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:19:11 -0400
On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Gregory Lawrence Smith wrote:
> Is anyone else not finding the new Stars on E.S.P. in places that should
> have it? I stopped by a Tower Records and a HMV and neither one had it.
> I mean, I realize that HNIA is not exactly a chart-bursting group, but
> this is their 4th album from 4AD which now has [reasonably] good US
> distribution. So you'd think they might get it in stop before the
> Christmas holiday rush...
>
> -greg
>
try borders books and music. here in detroit, you can listen to it before
you buy it. not that you have to. it's quite swell.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:26:07 +0000
Does anybody know what happened to The Telescopes ?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:21:38 -0500
96 08:45:07 pm
Does anyone know anything about the new DI album _Technicolour_?
Siren Disc had it on its new release schedule for this week. I think
it is on Rough Trade.
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:51 +0200
For all Sebadoh fans:
There's a mailorder only Sebadoh 7" available from Sub Pop (US):
SP 367-7
$ 3.75
Princess / Half Undresses + 3 Residents covers.
Frank
P.S. A Slayer 7" due out on Sub Pop soon too. Wow!!!
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:00:27 +0200
Masaya wrote:
>Nippon Columbia will release a mini album of LUSH on 31 August, maybe
>celebrating their show at Tokyo in September.
>Cat # COCY-80351. Price 2000 yen, a little lower than ordinary CDs.
>Title and tracks are unknown.
>Maybe a compilation of recent cd singles and 7" ??
Please keep us informed!!!
Frank
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:51:41 -0400
i tried writing back to that guy who was selling that 12 inch '87 anthology
but i got returned mail...i would love to have this so, to matthew
kirkcaldie, please write back to me.
thanks,
pete
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 02:56:12 GMT
I was on it and now I am not? anyone know why?
if so. reply privately
I miss it so ....
Ian In Wpg
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