Subject: Throwing Muses Seattle/Portland
Subject: FSOL
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Subject: Re: Why Does Liz Hate "Song to the Siren"?
Subject: Why Does Liz Hate "Song to the Siren"?
Subject: Snippets Circa...
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Subject: scenic show...
Subject: Re: Pod, This Mortal Coil, & Portishead
Subject: Re: For Sale...
Subject: Cocteau / TMC Box Set (Uk Listees)
Subject: Music papers
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil
Subject: Re: bad music on t.v - of course
Subject: Re: Correct DCD tour dates
Subject: Re: bad music on t.v - of course
Subject: Love Spirals Downwards / Eight Page Story shows
Subject: Re: Snippets Circa...
Subject: Bill Nelson
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Subject: Krautrock
Subject: Re: Music Television
Subject: Re: FSOL
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Subject: 12" 87 Anthology, anyone?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:39:47 -0700
sale this weekend through TicketMaster. The Seattle show (8/22) is at the
Crocodile Cafe, and a small place like that is sure to sell out... so get
your tix now before the ads come out in The Rocket and The Stranger.
See you there,
>> Maarten.
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:57:07 -0500
having heard FSOL=B4s Lifeforms single, my reaction was one of HUGE=
amazement!
I really liked it (even though is 2 years old). So is the Lp Lifeforms as
good as the single? Also, can someone give me some suggestions for a FSOL lp
worth getting?
Gracias!
PEpe
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The Sundays
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:55:00 +0000
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> Why does Liz hate "Son[g] To The Siren"?
Why does the whole band hate almost all of their previous work? ... and yet
continue in the same tradition? I agree with whoever said that their opinions
in interviews about previous work should be largely ignored, i haven't read any
of their interviews lately for just that reason. It seems like they ignore it
themselves by playing Treasure era songs at concerts.
Who knows. I suspect though, that, Liz's hatred for "song to the siren" might
be a little different in that (a) she had to sing in english" at a time that she
wasn't ready for it yet AND (b) ppl. kept requesting SttS at Cocteau Twins shows
and it's a TMC song.
Speaking of Cocteau Twins, i heard *Alice* on the Stealing Beauty sndtrk and it
really is a great song in a different direction from all their previous work.
The Mazzy Star song is also quite nice. If only the Lori Carson and Portishead
tracks were new, then i would have bought the darned disc.
-cz
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:43:04 -0700
> using the fact that Liz and Robin performed "Song to the Siren" as a way of
> promoting This Mortal Coil, while simultaneously overlooking the fact that
> they had their own album out, Head Over Heels.
Not to mention the fact that there was a video for
"Song To The Siren" (I think CT's first video for
"Pearly Dewdrops' Drops" hadn't even come out yet)
and that the Twins were billed as
This Mortal Coil on some TV show where they
performed the song live (it was quite good, incidentally).
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:16:04 -0400
They've said that there was a lot of "shit" going on in their (Robin's &
Liz's) lives at the time, which can always color an experience. 4AD was
using the fact that Liz and Robin performed "Song to the Siren" as a way of
promoting This Mortal Coil, while simultaneously overlooking the fact that
they had their own album out, Head Over Heels. So Cocteau Twins were
getting lots of recognition for "Song to the Siren", but not as much for
Head Over Heels. Furthermore, people were getting confused about just WHO
This Mortal Coil were and whether the Cocteaus had changed their name or
something.
Additionally, Liz felt that she didn't have enough time to rehearse, and
that the recording was rushed. In retrospect, she's said that she agrees
that it is a beautiful song and that the recording isn't all THAT bad after
all. Cocteau Twins have performed "Song to the Siren" a few times on their
recent tour.
Mike
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:17:02 -0400
Why does Liz hate "Son To The Siren"?
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:50:31 -0500
> Why does Liz hate "Son To The Siren"?
>
>
>TIM CONLON
>[email protected]
>
>
Supposedly beacuse it was marketed as TMC and not TMC & CT; also the song
was hugely popular compared to Head Over Heels, the CT release at that
time... so I guess it was some kind of jealousy.
Pepe
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:06:38 -0700
By chance would anyone have info regarding Scenic's
cancelled show in Eugene, Oregon and if there will
be any rescheduling? The band got "sidetracked"
somehow last night, made it to Eugene, but couldn't
get a gig anywhere...
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:12:32 -0700
At 09:25 PM 7/27/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I just picked up a copy of The Breeders AMAZING first album "Pod" used in a
>record store, and it wasn't on Elektra. It had the CAD blah blah blah 4AD
>serial number, but it said it was made in the US and distributed by rough
>trade. Is this an import or what? I thought all domestic copies of "Pod"
>were on Elektra, but I guess I'm wrong.
You probably found the european copy. In europe, 4AD isn't distributed by
Elektra.
>
> Anyway, I also bought Portishead's "Dummy", which i love, and was
>wondering if anyone had any other suggestions as to other Portishead
>material, or anything similar in sound.
>
Tricky is very good, and also Scalia (with members of Seefeel) on Too Pure.
> AND, I really don't know a thing about This Mortal Coil, only that Kim
>Deal does "You and your Sister" with that Donelley girl (a good song), but I
>remember hearing one song and thinking it was very HNIA-ish. Can any one
>recommend a good TMC album? And is the rest of the album with "You and Your
>Sister" any good??? Thanks a lot...
>
Each TMC's album is different but all are very good, you cant make a choice,
just buy'em.
>Matt
>
>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:40:31 -0700
rec'd thanks!
alex
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 05:23:11 PDT
Can these be found in the UK still. Anyone (Andrew N) still see these in Leicest
r?
I've got relatives flying out here in December, so I'd like an attempt at gettin
my mitts on 'em (specially TMC).
Cheers
Chris
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:11:29 BST
<[email protected]>
Frank wrote:
>People living outside the UK should be glad that they don't have music
>papers like NME or Melody Maker in their country. These papers have an
>extremely strong influence on the punter's taste, as they only write about
>the bands that are 'in' and totally ignore or just make fun of other bands.
>Most bands that are huge in the UK are first and for all huge because the
>music papers MAKE them huge and not because they are good or because the
>public picked them up.
As it stands, I think this simply isn't true. Most bands in the UK
initially become huge because of TV and radio exposure. Frank cites Happy
Mondays as an example. I wouldn't say they were huge in the UK at all.
However, they were huge for the vaguely alternative, rather more
interesting than most chart fodder, sort of music we discuss on this list.
And that's where the music papers come in. When they first emerge, the
sorts of bands we tend to like on this list are unlikely to attract
positive attention from the powers that be in radio and TV. But the music
papers can certainly give them a big lift until they are unignorable by TV
and radio.
Also, much as I hate NME and MM (for several reasons, some of which have
been discussed here) I have often heard non-Brits complaining that there is
no equivalent in their own country. They say that we are lucky to have any
source of info. on non-chart bands. Surely it's worse to have no access to
info. about these bands than to have the flawed NME and MM?
Simon Hughes
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:46:41 +0000
Emiel Efdee wrote:
> If you haven't got one of them you can also buy the US box set with the
> three above and an extra 'orgiginals' cd (there are a lot of cover versions
> on the TMC albums).
Can someone please, please, please tell me where I can get the "This
Mortal Coil" US box set?
I'm been hunting high and low for it. Please email me personally if
you've got any info.
Thanks!!
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:21:08 -0400
On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, naor wrote:
>
> I'm told mtv is very different in the u.s. is this true? from what I hear
> mtv in america is mainly shitty heavy metal whereas mtv europe is mostly
> crappy brit pop.
i was enchanted while in ireland last year, being
able to watch mtv europe, uk, and ireland. the difference
between these european mtvs and the american original
is staggering.
mtv usa plays very very very few videos other than the
20 or so they are payola-ed to play. the rest of the time
is filled up by 'shows' suchas singled out (the dating game
for meth-heads and playmates), the real world (yeah, sure),
road rules (realworld on wheelz) etc...
i have considered getting a satellite dish in order to
beam in european mtv. btw: does any american in the
midwest _have_ dss, and _is_ mtv europe available?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:18:32 +0200
>the summer tour dates for Dead Can Dance, plus a nice picture of the
>two of them.
I saw somewhere a sort of Brendan without beard, am I right? and a Lisa
muuuch thinner than on the video...
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:22:52 -0400
On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Jason Wintz wrote:
>
> The other thing to understand is that a music video is not a piece of
> art, it is an advertisment.
two words: WAR HOL
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:38:58 -0700
Two more shows coming up that everyone should see:
Love Spirals Downwards
w/ Sean Bowley of Eden
August 9
Dark's Art Parlor
5249 Lankershim Blvd.
8pm
818-752-6080
Eight Page Story
(with two new members, including Jon formerly of Aberdeen)
August 7
Genghis Cohen Cantina
740 N. Fairfax near Melrose
10pm
213-653-0604
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:50:00 CDT
At 01:17 PM 7/29/96 -0400, you wrote:
> Why does Liz hate "Son To The Siren"?
>
>
>TIM CONLON
>[email protected]
>
Supposedly because it reminds her of a bad period in her life. In an
interview she said she resented the fact that Ivo released it right when
'Head over Heels' was recieving so much attention. She felt like he was
using the success of CT to push the song....and it gave alot of people the
misconception that it was in fact a CT song. This is all from memory, but I
think it is for the most part accurate.
Regardless of how she once felt, I think it is safe to say that she now
feels more comfortable with it. It was performed as an encore during the
Black Session that was aired on Radio Inter in Paris on 22 December 1995.
Stratton
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:18:10 +0200
>Point I would like to make is that on the Monsoon album, some e-bow guitar
>work by Bill Nelson appears. Ave Bill Nelson!
yeah, another big of electro 80's!
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:17:35 -0400
Some of this stuff is more listie than others, but here goes:
All are CD format, tracks available upon request
Post me PRIVATELY if you're interested.
_______________________________________________________________
"Shaving Kit Music" - 4AD promo $8
Michael Brook "Hybrid" with Eno/Lanois $10
Busy Going Crazy "Six Summer Suns"ep (post Swallow dub) $6
Half String "Tripped Up Breathing"ep (post-shoegazer indie pop from AZ) $6
"Facing the Wrong Way" 4AD '96 promo sampler (alt. versions of yer 4AD
favourites) $8
Telsatr Ponies "Maps & Starcharts"ep $5
Jessamine "Jessamine" (kranky self titled lp) $10
Lush "Nothing Natural"ep (two non-lp tracks) $7
Bardo Pond "Amanita" (droney post-rock on Matador) $10
"Folds & Rhizomes for Gilles Deleuze" compilation (tracks from Mouse on
Mars, Oval, Scanner, etc) $12
Space Age Recordings "The New Atlantis" compilation (tracks from
Spectrum, Jessamine, Bowery Electric, E.A.R., Spacemen 3) $15
Orbital "Lush 3" ep $8
Transglobal Underground "International Times" $5
Massive Attack "Blue Lines" $5
Love & Rockets "Hot Trip to Heaven" $6
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:56:00 +0000
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Dez wrote:
>For people who think Stereolab are cutting edge, this stuff
>is essential listening - it exposes them as the pretty weak plagiarists that
>they are.
To be fair, I don't think Stereolab ever claimed to be incredibly original
in the first place. They've always been pretty brutally honest in admitting
who their inspirations are/were, right down to individual songs. So to call
them plagiarists is a bit unfair, really.
Larry
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:47:58 -0400
Susan F. Curran wrote:
>If you actually want to see music videos, as opposed to the sub-brainless
>drivel that tries to pass as "entertainment", call up your cable company
>and ask them to get Much Music.
Occasionally I think about how lousy MuchMusic can be, but then I think back
to whenever it was that I last saw some MTV, and I'm thankful that MuchMusic
actually plays MUSIC most of the time, even if most of it is crap. They're
much more adventurous in programming videos than MTV is, that's for sure.
And it's more popular in Mexico than MTV...
>MM started out as the Canadian equivalent to MTV, but they've recently
>branched out to the US, and actually
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:34:56 -0400
The FSOL records are all kinda different.
Lifeforms is similar to the ep you heard but much more sprawling and
diverse, where the single reworks the same theme over and over.
ISDN is one of my favourites. Its a little tighter in terms of actual
songs over sprawling electronic doodling. It also has a few more
percussive elements (beats if you will)
Accelerator was recently re-released. Its older, and in some cases a
little more 'dance techno' oriented. Though some of the dancing to it is
definately ment to be done on your back and in your head.
If you liked the Lifeforms single I would really recomend the Cascade
single as the next best purchase. Great groove, and reworked several
times over the course of the disc.
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:46:33 -0700
At 2:57 PM 7/29/96, Lebron wrote:
>having heard FSOL=B4s Lifeforms single, my reaction was one of HUGE amazeme=
nt!
>I really liked it (even though is 2 years old). So is the Lp Lifeforms as
>good as the single? Also, can someone give me some suggestions for a FSOL l=
p
>worth getting?
>
>Gracias!
>
>PEpe
IMHO, I think you should hunt down all of FSOL. I love all their albums.
=46red "Birdman From Berkeley"
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