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Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:36:48 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: New things, new things...
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:58:50 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: RHP: "Songs For A Blue Guitar"
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:34:33 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: New things, new things...
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:34:22 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: how many copies are sold?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:28:12 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Re: Liz / Jeff thing
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:03:23 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Independent Project releases
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:18:05 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: credit cards
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:00:16 -0400
From: The Boy In Zinc (Boyinzinc@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: bad music
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:38:52 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: bad music
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:48:12 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Ultravox
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:31:40 +-200
From: James Sanchez[SMTP:JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM]
Subject: no message just thanks
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:29:40 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Joy Division/NewOrder Lyrics in DCD?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:18:16 +0300
From: Umur Celikyay (umur@BILKENT.EDU.TR)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:39:17 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:52:28 -0400
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: Re: Liz / Jeff thing
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:52 -0500
From: Gary Ruisinger (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:42:00 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@hal-pc.org)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:38:35 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: bad music
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:42:14 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: more Faye Wong / Cocteaux
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:31:30 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: cranes: la tragedie d'oreste et electre
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:51:13 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: Faye Wong Sings the Cocteau Twins!!!
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:00:38 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: RHP: "Songs For A Blue Guitar"
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:08:51 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: galaxie 500 boxed set
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:29:32 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: tonight is Scenic
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:54:43 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Lush in Toronto
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:47 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: bad music
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:00:44 EST
From: Joherius HD (solus@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: bitch.... bitch... bitch....
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:46:59 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Red House Painters
Date: 7/25/96 9:35 AM
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:33:26 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD UK signings
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:33:23 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Aloof
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:45:47 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:28:51 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:01:06 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:51:12 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: bad music
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:44:20 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:28:20 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Re: how many copies are sold?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:53:17 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: bitch.... bitch... bitch....
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:55:46 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:15:33 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:13:48 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:01:54 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: cranes: la tragedie d'oreste et electre
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:48:44 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: galaxie 500
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:56:41 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: Time Stereo taken over by Time Warner
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:36:21 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 videos
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:42:24 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: GreAT 80'S
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 04:21:25 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:36:48 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


Have to be:

NewOrder  (before that crappy Republic). Tempation ***IS*** their best song
ever!

Smiths. How can anyone forget 'How Soon is now', 'Please, please...',
'There=B4s a light...', etc, etc, etc.

Pepe
still hooked to 80=B4s music
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:58:50 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: New things, new things...


oteran  writes:

> Anyway, the reason for cheap prices for singles (at least in the US)
> is so they explode onto the charts, debuting at a higher position
> than they normally would.

Well, not really -- *all* (or at least very many) singles (it seems)
have been on sale for ~GBP 0.99 this summer, with cd singles at GBP
1.99.  I was wondering whether this was a permanent change or a
passing fad?

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:34:33 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: RHP: "Songs For A Blue Guitar"


I saw it at Tower yesterday.  The most surprising thing is that it wasn't on
sale (considering it's a new release).  It was $15.99.  I'll wait.........

>i was able the get the new RHP yesterday at the store i frequent.  i can't
>say much at this point concerning the quality of the music, as i'm only
>listened to it 1 and 1/2 times.  nice v23 artwork though...i just wish they
>didn't have to put that ugly rainbow band thing (island/supreme thing i
>guess) on the side.
>
>by the way, why did mark thank ivo in the notes?  i thought they were at odds.
>tony
>
>
oteran
oteran@shrike.depaul.edu

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:34:22 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: New things, new things...


At 11:58 AM 7/24/96 +0200, you wrote:

>Lush - 500 (Shake Baby Shake) 1 & 2
>
>So, they decided to release the most annoyingly sweet song from the
>album as a single.  Blecch.  It's even sweeter here, and I can't bear
>to listen to it again.  As for the extra tracks -- Emma and Miki have
>cunningly avoided to write a single new tracks, so it's a mixture of
>covers, rerecordings, remixes and a song written by the bassist.
>Yawn.  The design of the singles follows the lead of the other
>singles, except that they have used the same imagery on both
>releases.  My guess is that they ran out of pictures.  In fact, this
>whole thing has "Will This Do?" written over it in ten feet high neon
>letters.  Steer clear of this, well, crap.  (What's my excuse for
>buying them?  They were *cheap*.  What's up with that single sale in
>the UK?  Why are all the singles so cheap these days?)
>
I think the whole album is not memorable at all, and the artwork is
dissapointing.  Anyway, the reason for cheap prices for singles (at least in
the US) is so they explode onto the charts, debuting at a higher position
than they normally would.  Then they can say "it yielded x # of top 10 hits"

Nice, huh?
oteran
oteran@shrike.depaul.edu

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:28:12 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: how many copies are sold?


does anyone have any idea how many copies of their albums 4AD artists
typically sell?  obviously some bands sell more than others, but does
anyone have any actual numbers?
just curious,
tony


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:03:23 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: Re: Liz / Jeff thing


i'm not really into the whole rumour aspect of the group (not to be
snotty) but i just wanted to set it straight so people can stop talking
about it.
Liz was seeing Tim Buckley romantically for some time immediately
following her breakup with Robin several years ago but the two have
split and she is now going with Jason, i believe, from spiritualized. he
also (for anyone that cares) played guitar during a track of theirs when
they headlined at the T in the Park festival in Scotland the weekend
before last, earlier they'd been hanging out and walking around in the
hospitality tent that was there for label people.
i work with Robin's brother Brian Guthrie, in case there was a question
on the source, and spoke with Robin after the show...

byefornow,
          K-

--
my homepage, linked to the home pages for the bands
Lowlife, Red House Painters and the ANoise Annoys
record label. The Bay page is coming soon...
Hope you enjoy.

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:18:05 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Independent Project releases


Speaking of IPR, when can we expect the next For Against album?  I was
told they were working on it quite a while ago so they should be near
completion now.  Anybody know?

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:00:16 -0400
From: The Boy In Zinc (Boyinzinc@AOL.COM)
Subject: credit cards


here's the deal:

the record collector is a pretty hip (as far as i can tell from a few hundred
miles away) record store in livonia, mich...

time stereo is a record (some would say tape and record) label run by one of
the record collector's employees, davin...he often uses the record
collector's address to receive time stereo's mail.

the record collector accepts credit card orders.

time stereo merch is not owned by the record collector, it is owned by davin,
who is not equipped (last i heard) to take credit card orders...

thus, you can use a credit card to order from the record collector, so long
as you do not order time stereo merch (as i did when i ordered the esp
continent cd and detroit electric comp)...

however, individual customers (like frank, since he lives in europe -- i
think) may be able to strike some sort of deal with davin or the record
behalf of the business in ANY way shape or form -- i.e., don't call 'em up
and say, "this guy on the net called BiZ said...")

so frank, i suggest you call davin and try to work something out...otherwise,
ask me, i've been known to swap time stereo releases for imports at
times...for those in the u.s., i'd recommend sending a check...

BiZ


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:38:52 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: bad music


>Reassuring thought: Now you can find every happy Mondays record or CD for a
>few pence in the sales and used bins of all UK music stores.

Not just the UK stores: I recently "rescued" the Happy Mondays'
"Bellyaches" CD for a mere dollar up in Berkeley, Calif., USA!

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:48:12 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: bad music


>>Of course, the worst British bands are the ones that are *completely*
>>unknown in UK but manage to be successful everywhere else.

Yeah, case-in-point: Bush! A few thousand (UK) vs. 4 million+ (US)!

Think about this: not counting Mojave 3, who was the last *new* British
group to sign with 4AD?

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:31:40 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: Ultravox


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He has a club in London where he is often seen DJ'ing etc - has been that was fo
 quite a few years as far as I know....

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From: James Sanchez[SMTP:JSANCHEZ@HSSCAM.MIS.SEMI.HARRIS.COM]
Subject: Re: Ultravox


Hello,
Speaking of Steve Strange of Visage what ever became of him some type
of New Wave pop star retirement home or something........

                                       James


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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:29:40 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: no message just thanks


To the several people--who exactly I do not recall as I didn't too much
care at the time but now I know--who mentioned Roach and Obmana's _Well
of Souls_...you have caused me to lend an ear to a wonderful album I will
probably be listening to for the rest of my life. I really really love
it. Thank you.

  e, who may be back in mail land in the next few days


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:18:16 +0300
From: Umur Celikyay (umur@BILKENT.EDU.TR)
Subject: Re: Joy Division/NewOrder Lyrics in DCD?

>

-------------------
umur@bilkent.edu.tr

On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Aaron Thorne wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Umur Celikyay wrote:
>
> > Ok, here's a question for JoyDiv/NewOrder Heads. Which DeadCanDance
> > songs featured lyrics reminescent of some Joy Division and NewOrder songs?
>
> Easy one there.  "The Carnival Is Over" quotes The Eternal (JD) with "the
> procession moves on, the shouting is over".  That's the only one I've
> noticed.  Are there others?  Of course "Threshold" from the first DCD
> album sounds very Joydivisiony, maybe a bit like "Wilderness".  No lyrical
> similarities though since Lisa does the vocals on that one.
>
> aaron
>

Actually I remembered what it was. You might find it a bit far fetched...
The "Tell me about the forest" features the lyrics:
"The past is now your future" I thought this was reminescent of
the Joy Division song Heart and Soul "The past is now part of the future"
So is it far fetched?

Cheers

 umur


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:39:17 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston


--- You wrote:
 I was there as well and couldn't understand what Brendan muttered
at the end.  Was that what he said?
--- end of quoted material ---


I believe that is what he said -- I caught the "humid" part, but the person
next to me was able to translate....I would have loved to hear Dreams Made
Flesh.....People tried to gve Lisa a standing ovation on at least two
occasions, so I thought she'd be psyched to come back out.

One thing about seeing these guys live is that I've come to really appreciate
Brendan.  He was great throughout the show and a lot more charismatic than I
expected.

Barry


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:52:28 -0400
From: Scott David Anderson (humgiant@USER1.CHANNEL1.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston


>>I caught Dead Can Dance at the Harborlights in Boston last >Friday.  Part of
>the
>>show were phenomenal (Oman, Yulunga and Rakim were great).  >But Lisa pulled
>a
>>big diva move and wouldn't come out for an encore because it >was "too
>humid".
>

i agree that the boston crowd was horrible.  it was worse than going to a
noisy bar.  i don't think dcd should play outdoor beer tents.  it doesn't
fit their music.

as for lisa not re-appearing, i could barely understand brendan also(lousy
sound at the show), but i think what he said was that she was trying to
tune her dulcimer(which she had taken offstage with her) and that the
humidity(the show was on the waterfront and it was raining) was plaing
havoc with the instrument.  if you have ever tried to play guitar outside,
much less an instrument with 30 or more strings, you know how hard it is to
keep in tune.  and dulcimers are many times harder to tune than guitars in
normal conditions.

i _was_ still disappointed that i didn't get to see dreams made flesh, one
of my favorites.  this being my first dcd show, i was truly impressed with
their musicianship.  they are just as beautiful live as on record.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
scott anderson                                    giant girlfriend



                 humgiant@user1.channel1.com
                      sanderson@sbra.com
           http://www.channel1.com/users/humgiant
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:54:52 -0500
From: Gary Ruisinger (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Liz / Jeff thing


K- wrote:
>
> i'm not really into the whole rumour aspect of the group (not to be
> snotty) but i just wanted to set it straight so people can stop talking
> about it.
> Liz was seeing Tim Buckley romantically for some time immediately
> following her breakup with Robin several years ago but the two have
> split and she is now going with Jason, i believe, from spiritualized. he
> also (for anyone that cares) played guitar during a track of theirs when
> they headlined at the T in the Park festival in Scotland the weekend
> before last, earlier they'd been hanging out and walking around in the
> hospitality tent that was there for label people.
> i work with Robin's brother Brian Guthrie, in case there was a question
> on the source, and spoke with Robin after the show...
>
> byefornow,
>           K-
>
Tim? Liz is seeing TIM Buckley? How Morbid.

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:42:00 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@hal-pc.org)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


> NewOrder  (before that crappy Republic). Tempation ***IS*** their best song
> ever!
>

The original version which appears on the 1981-82 ep is far better
than the redo for _Substance_ in 1987.  Ditto for "Confusion."  Does
anyone know if there ever was an appearance of the original (1983?)
on cd?

moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:38:35 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD Live in Boston


> much less an instrument with 30 or more strings, you know how hard it is to
> keep in tune.  and dulcimers are many times harder to tune than guitars in
> normal conditions.

The dulcimer I own has 97 strings! Imagine trying to keep all of those
in tune... If you've never seen one before, each note is made by
two, three or four strings. Each of the 97 is tuneable, plus
each group of strings that make a note is tuneable as a group.
It's quite complicated and chaotic looking at first.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:42:14 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: bad music


--- You wrote:
UK bands that are/where huge in the UK but almost ignored anywhere else (for
good reasons). For instance: post-'Bummed' Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, Oasis
and countless other bands on Creation
--- end of quoted material ---



Oasis are VERY popular in the US, be assured.  They have become (sadly) more
popular than the Stone Roses or Mondays ever could have dreamt of.

Barry


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:31:30 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: more Faye Wong / Cocteaux


> Can someone verify that the Faye/Liz "duet" on the Asian version of _Milk
> and Kisses_ is an additional track, and that the rest of the album is all
> there? While I'm at it, is the track at the end of the CD, or in between
> two other songs?

OK, here's the deal, again. The Asian version differs only
by one track: "Serpentskirt" has a completely different vocal
track mainly sung by Faye. The music is identical. All other tracks
are identical to the UK/US release. The Liz version is not included,
so the Asian CD has the same number of songs and is exactly the same length.
Well, if you want to get picky, the US version is 42:46 and the
Asian version is 42:43.

I'm also trying to get some of these for our catalog.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:51:13 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: cranes: la tragedie d'oreste et electre


--- You wrote:
Anyone wanna transcribe and translate the words into english?
--- end of quoted material ---


I'd like to plug the actual play, Les Mouches - it is a superbly written piece
by Sartre (borrowing heavily from the original Oresteia, of course).  I've only
ever read it in English, but I swear it's one of the most amazing things I've
ever read.  Supposedly, it ties in with the French resistance, etc....anyway,
if you feel compelled by the Cranes recording, go out and buy a decent
translation of the play.

Barry

Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 00:00:38 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Faye Wong Sings the Cocteau Twins!!!


mattn@MIT.EDU wrote:
>
> I don't know if it was Faye Wong that I heard, but there is a
> chinese popstar who took the music of CT's bluebeard and the Cranberries'
> dreams and sung it in mandarin or cantonese.  Unfortunately, the other
> tracks that I heard on the album were sickly sweet and poorly instrumented
> very standard love songs.
>
> -----------
> Matt Neimark                      (617)225-7450
> 143 Albany St.
> Cambridge, Ma 02139

Yes, it was Faye Wong that your heard!

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:08:51 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: RHP: "Songs For A Blue Guitar"


--- You wrote:
I've had the new RHP for about a week now (radio promo) and I'll put in
my vote for it not being nearly as good as their early work.  A few songs
are brilliant (the first track, and "Make Like Paper") but I found there
to be more than too much country and folk flavor for my taste.  And what
is with the backing female vocals?  Ugh.
--- end of quoted material ---

How does it sound compared to Ocean Beach?  I liked the first three RHP
releases, but thought that Ocean Beach was a huge step backward.  Are the songs
more or less conventional than Ocean Beach (I'm not going to be put off by
country/folk sounds - American Music Club has lots of those)?

Barry

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:29:32 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: galaxie 500 boxed set


someone (not sure who) was wondering about a galaxie 500 boxed set.  i
called rykodisc today and as it turns out, they are releasing something by
g500, but the guy i talked to said there was no release date scheduled yet.
also, he wasn't sure if it would just be a rerelease of the albums, or if
it would be a boxed set with extra tracks/nice book etc.  apparently ryko
will know within a month or so as to when these things will be released.
but then again, i already have all three albums on cd, as well as two of
the albums i have on cd on vinyl.  so i doubt i'd feel the need to spend
$60 on something i already have.
anyway, i thought at least someone might be interested
tony

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:54:43 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: tonight is Scenic


Tonight at the Alligator Lounge:

Scenic
Lanterna
Jeffrey Clark
September


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

'It's raining on the beach
 She's inches close but out of reach'

                                 XTC


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:47 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Lush in Toronto


Lush initially were to play Lee's Palace on August 15th but the day
tickets went on sale it sold out immediately!  The venue was quickly
changed to the larger capacity Phoenix.  The catch is that when the tix
says 8pm sharp, they MEAN it!  It'll start RIGHT on time due to the fact
the Phoenix people have a previously scheduled event going on later that
evening, so we'll all be ushered out of there after the show's over!
Well, keep it in mind, OK - no showing up fashionably late for this one!

Oh, and opening for Lush are Red Atkins and The Jive Bombers...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:00:44 EST
From: Joherius HD (solus@JUNO.COM)
Subject: Re: bad music


hey Frank;

what about MTV?  some of us might be lucky enough to be able to avoid NME
and/or
        MM, but MTV is everywhere.  and they *really* control the
industry.  let's not
        get into the number of bands MTV made and broke.
one day everyone thinks "Underpressure" took samples from "Ice, Ice,
Baby", the next
        day David Bowie is covering a Nirvana song, "The Man Who Sold The
        World".  How hard would it be for MTV to set the record straight?
Fine, this example might not make sense, but try to remember when you
might have
        had no choice, but had to either listen to a top 40 station
(maybe u went to
        the mall, or were working with people who actually liked T40
Stations).  The
        so called hits of summer back are gone.
meanwhile, you have never seen a DCD video on MTV,,,,

my two cents/pences...

JHR



On Thu, 25 Jul 1996 03:13:12 +0200 Frank Brinkhuis 

>
>People living outside the UK should be glad that they don't have music
>papers like NME or Melody Maker in their country. These papers have an
>extremely strong influence on the punter's taste, as they only write
>about the bands that are 'in' and totally ignore or just make fun of
other
>bands.
>Most bands that are huge in the UK are first and for all huge because
>the music papers MAKE them huge and not because they are good or because

>the public picked them up.
>
>NME!!
>Reassuring thought: Now you can find every happy Mondays record or CD
>for a
>few pence in the sales and used bins of all UK music stores.
>
>Frank

"Connais-tu, comme moi, la douleur savoureuse,
Et de toi fais-tu dire: 'Oh! l'homme singulier!'
- J'allais mourir.  C'etait dans mon ame amoureuse,
Desir mele d'horreur, un mal particulier"
Le Reve D'Un Curiex (Charles Baudelaire)

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:46:59 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: bitch.... bitch... bitch....


there is quite a bit of whining going on with this list that is becomming
very annoying...
this list is a forum for music discussion which primarily is 4ad but, has
plenty of room for other related and non related topics.
those who have a hard time with this should take themselves off the list and
move on....

taste is an opinion
get over it...

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:46:45 -0800
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: Songs for a blue guitar


Subject: Red House Painters

Date: 7/25/96 9:35 AM The new release is good and while different, the same.Three covers, "All Mixed Up"(Cars),"Silly Love Songs"(Paul McCarthny),and a Jon Anderson cover, are great and completely transformed by Mark. Certain songs have a country tint but underneath the same introspective RHP longing exists."All Mixed Up" is probably my favorite song but they are no dogs among the lot.

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:33:26 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


   >  How about the Chameleons? (even if their second album sucks)



 >    enrique


Without doubt. 'Strange Times' and 'Script Of The Bridge' are up there with
'Closer', 'Throwing Muses', 'House Tornado', 'Surfer Rosa', 'Doolittle',
'Psychocandy', 'California' and 'Hats'

- Dez

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:33:23 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD UK signings


>Think about this: not counting Mojave 3, who was the last *new* British
>group to sign with 4AD?

If you mean UK, not Britain, then Scheer (from Derry). Before that we're talking
Swallow (Irish exiles), Spirea X (Scotland). The last English signings prior to
Mojave 3 were Pale Saints/Lush seven years ago! Although Ivo tried (and failed)
to get Polly Harvey.

- Dez

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:45:47 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Aloof


OK this isnt that listie, but I'm curious if anybody over on the UK side
of the pond has heard a disc by ALOOF called 'Sinking'. Evidently its a
techno/trance/ambient/dub kinda thing. Ive heard some hype about it and
was wondering if anybody in 4AD land might be able to give an opinion on it.


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:28:51 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set


On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, a.e. nelson wrote:

> someone (not sure who) was wondering about a galaxie 500 boxed set.  i

I mentioned it...

> but then again, i already have all three albums on cd, as well as two of
> the albums i have on cd on vinyl.  so i doubt i'd feel the need to spend
> $60 on something i already have.

Well, if that were the case -- a simple re-release -- I wouldn't be
interested in it either.  However, what my friend told me is this:  It'll
be a 4 CD box - 1) today 2) on fire 3) this is our music 4) [bonus CD with
outtakes, demos, what have you].  Now that's great in itself, but there's
also supposed to be a digitized music video on each disc (each of the
first 3?) for the respective singles.

Mike


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:01:06 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


> and the master piece of 4AD
>
> Medusa

Hear, hear!

Speaking of Clan Of Xymox, in the past few days I've been
in contact with Ronny, who will soon be sending me a tape of
the new Xymox album. We won't have to wait too much longer to
find out if he really HAS returned to glory.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

'But you know I lie
 It's pure indulgent fantasy'

             Virginia Astley

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:51:12 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


>
> 'Doolittle',
 >Hats'
>
>- Dez

Also included are :

Darklands
The Queen is Dead
Lowlife
Reading, Writing & Artihmetic

and the master piece of 4AD

Medusa


Pepe
who=B4s waiting 33 for the Dead Can Dance concert at Mexico City
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:44:20 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: bad music


well, I do agree with what you're saying (sort of) but I HAVE seen three DCD
videos on MTV.  I still have MTV, but a tiny little flake of credit
sometimes is due.

rick

>        so called hits of summer back are gone.
>meanwhile, you have never seen a DCD video on MTV,,,,
>
>my two cents/pences...
>
>JHR

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:28:20 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set


>Well, if that were the case -- a simple re-release -- I wouldn't be
>interested in it either.  However, what my friend told me is this:  It'll
>be a 4 CD box - 1) today 2) on fire 3) this is our music 4) [bonus CD with
>outtakes, demos, what have you].  Now that's great in itself, but there's
>also supposed to be a digitized music video on each disc (each of the
>first 3?) for the respective singles.
>
what kind of format will these videos be in?  cd-rom?  i suppose, though
the original bowie boxed set video disc (also ryko) had some strange format
that very few players could read.  cd-g or something.  i've seen a video
for 'tugboat' but no other videos, so this might be a worthwhile
investment, esp with that demo/outtake disc.  hmmmmm
tony


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:53:17 -0500
From: oteran (oteran@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: how many copies are sold?


At 12:28 AM 7/25/96 +0000, you wrote:
>does anyone have any idea how many copies of their albums 4AD artists
>typically sell?  obviously some bands sell more than others, but does
>anyone have any actual numbers?
>just curious,
>tony
>
According to an April 6, 1996 Billboard article,
CT's Heaven or Las Vegas has sold 235,000 in the US
4CC - 146,000 in the US

That's all I know.  Obviously, HOLV is CT's best selling CD in the US.
oteran
oteran@shrike.depaul.edu


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:55:46 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: bitch.... bitch... bitch....


On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Shar Everett wrote:

> those who have a hard time with this should take themselves off the list and
> move on....

I could say the same to you -- take your off-topic crap to a list where it
belongs.

> get over it...

Sure thing.

Mike

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:15:33 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set


On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, a.e. nelson wrote:

> what kind of format will these videos be in?  cd-rom?  i suppose, though

Yeah, cd-rom.  Don't know if it's mpeg or quicktime or what....

> that very few players could read.  cd-g or something.  i've seen a video
> for 'tugboat' but no other videos, so this might be a worthwhile

There's also a video for "4th of july" which I saw once on... 120 Minutes,
I think (ironically enough :-/  ).  I think there's at least one more.

Mike

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:13:48 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 boxed set


>what kind of format will these videos be in?  cd-rom?  i suppose, though
>the original bowie boxed set video disc (also ryko) had some strange format
>that very few players could read.  cd-g or something.  i've seen a video
>for 'tugboat' but no other videos, so this might be a worthwhile
>investment, esp with that demo/outtake disc.  hmmmmm
>tony

that "strange format" is the same one used on standard US laserdiscs.  It will
play in any laserdisc player.  The box set came out before the explosion in
cd-rom popularity.  Other artists also released singles with laserdisc video
(though front 242 is the only other one that comes to mind at the moment).
--gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu)

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:01:54 -0500
From: Lebron (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Best bands from the eighties?


Speaking of Clan Of Xymox, Ronny was the main vocalist. On which tracks do
Piter Nooten layed the vocal chords? (including backing vocals, of course!).
The thing is that the vocals in Medusa are very deep and gloomy and I can=B4=
t
tell apart Ronny from Piter...

Pepe
wishing that Ronny leaves the techno crap and returns to form
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:48:44 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: cranes: la tragedie d'oreste et electre


les mouches--a must-read.  indeed.  and if you are feeling daring, no exit is
also good (and likely to haunt you daily if you work in a small crowded office)
and the novel nausea is worth reading.

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:56:41 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: galaxie 500


i've only seen a video for when will you come home.  actually this was the first
i had heard of them and it was on 120 min.  i don't know why but i was crying by
the end of it and they have been one of my favorite bands ever since.


Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:36:21 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Time Stereo taken over by Time Warner


In a message dated 96-07-24 22:57:54 EDT, you write:

<< The subject line just a tribute to Jeff's 'subject line of the month'.
What
 I really want to know is if anyone can tell me whether or not Time
 Stereo/The Record Collector take credit card orders.

 Frank
 ++++++++++++++++++++
 Frank Brinkhuis
 frankbri@pi.net
 www.pi.net/~frankbri
 ++++++++++++++++++++

  >>


I think they do....  just ask them yourself if you'd like at:
rec.coll@ix.netcom.com (attn:davin of cousre)

~blu

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:42:24 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: galaxie 500 videos


...and the only video I've seen is "Blue Thunder"

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 04:21:25 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: GreAT 80'S


>The god-awful Canadian 80's compliation
>
>On the postive note

I add Martha and the Muffins, are not they canadians?


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