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Subject: Re: lush
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:36:58 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: New things
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:39:02 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: scheer
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:22:49 +-200
From: Jeff Keibel[SMTP:redshift@INTERLOG.COM]
Subject: Re: New things
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:18:16 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Propaganda
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:55:46 +-200
From: Shar Everett[SMTP:ISOBL202@AOL.COM]
Subject: Re: scheer
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:21:18 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:04:56 +0400
From: Umur Celikyay (umur@BILKENT.EDU.TR)
Subject: Re: ESP
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:22:02 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Propaganda
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:11:01 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Lush "500"
Date: 18/07/96 10:40
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Propaganda
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:04:13 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Propaganda
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:18:46 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: The Lover Speaks
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:28:13 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: 4AD Graphic Design Flaws
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:34:40 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Propaganda and other 80's bands~
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:36:32 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:37:08 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: KAJAGOOGOO???????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:20:34 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins/16 candles
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:54 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: LUSH 8 'Single Bloke'
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:59:42 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:57:58 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Insides
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:01:04 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:25:54 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Time Again For The Golden Sunset
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:49:17 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:50:12 -0500
From: mark&sarah (mrf546t@NIC.SMSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Propaganda
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:41:49 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: NDN:Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:59:14 EST
From: Network Manager (system@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: scheer
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:42:24 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:42:14 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:34:34 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:46:37 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:27:11 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:50:17 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:35:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Scenic/Lanterna arrives next week
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:05:11 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Looking for some CT songs
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:35 -0400
From: alex (tmp5@ATLGR.COM)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:59:09 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: the demise of Jane
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:49 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: jane siberry
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:58:52 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: red house painters
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:30:18 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:30:41 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:44:19 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: jane siberry
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:26 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: scheer
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:14:53 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Scenic/Lanterna arrives next week
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:34:40 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:17:28 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: hoover
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:46:26 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: lisa germano
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:47:27 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Lanterna Dates
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:34:17 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: More Xymox news
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:55:16 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:41:09 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Ultravox
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:29:43 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Liz Fraser in Hole?
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:24:33 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:40:38 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Ultravox
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:15:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:14:14 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:52:08 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:07:41 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: jane siberry
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:26:20 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)

Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:36:58 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: lush


On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Dez wrote:

> benefited from that for a while, whilst others like Chapterhouse, Revolver,
> Moose and even Ride were quickly exposed as having little more than one idea.

Moose has done far more (far better, IMO) than Lush in the way of
expanding beyond the "shoegazer" sound.

Mike

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 05:39:02 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: New things


We're S.H.O.P.P.I.N.G.

Orbital - In-Sides

After the fantabulous "The Box" ep, this release seems rather
anonymous in comparison.  Sure, every tune is fun, sounds good and
have swell tunes, but "The Box" had that little extra that Orbital
sometime manage to touch upon -- "Lush 3", "Halcyon", "Are We Here?",
"Belfast".  This album trundles along very nicely for 72 minutes, and
then it ends.  I'll be playing it a lot, I think.


Jane Siberry - Maria

So, everybody loved "Bound by the Beauty" and nobody liked "When I Was
A Boy" much.  (I loved them both dearly.)  Then "Maria" was released
to general apathy, and reports started trickling in that this was not,
how shall one put it, very good.  At all.  It was recorded in a 3 day
jam session with four jazz musos -- no sequencers, no odd instruments,
no acoustic guitar.  *gah*.  I know, development is nice, but does she
have to develop into a jazz lite dilletante (as I think I read that
someone called her)?  No!  And, no, she hasn't.  The first thing that
struck me about when I put this cd on was that it *sounds* very
slick.  It has that open, clear, yes-the-musicians-are-playing-
in-your-living-room sound.  Just drums, bass, trumpet, piano, and
vocals.  Very clean; very intimate.  The next thing that struck me is
that this isn't jazz lite at all -- it's jazz.  The Real Thing.
Odd time signatures, syncopation, things that go off in odd directions
around a single theme.  Now, after listening to it 4 times, I still
haven't decided whether I like it or not.  I'm starting to get a
handle on the tunes, and they're quite pretty, in that odd Siberry
way.  Hm.  I do want to listen to it, and it doesn't annoy me, and my
foot is tapping and my head is bopping along, so perhaps I do like
it.  Hm.  What do the rest of you think of this album?


The Amps - Pacer

Hey -- 30 minutes long, lots of tracks, low fi, pop tunes -- what
album does that remind me of?  Why, "Pod", of course.  Did Kim want to
re-create that album?  I have no idea.  It's a crunchy and lively
album, but it's so short it's always over before I notice that I'm
playing it, so I have no idea whether it's any good or not.  I can't
recall seeing much discussion of this album here either, so perhaps
that's the effect it has on y'all?  One thing's for sure -- it's not
*bad*.  It might be good, even.  Dunno.


Richard Kirk -- Time High Fiction

This is a double cd re-release of a thing Kirk did in his industrial
years -- '81 or something.  I was kinda hoping for something more
laid-back (if not nasty and groovy), but this is *very* crunchy.
Clank!  Ooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!  (silence).  iiiiiiiiiii!  That
kind of thing.  Unfortunately, I'm not in the mood to have my ears
pierced by Sonic Terrorism, so I think I'll put this somewhere safe
until I become an angry young man (again).


Simple Machines - 1990 - 1993

I bought this thing because I couldn't remember the name of the band
Toomey plays in when she's not doing her Liquorice thaaang.  It's
Tsunami, right?  This album has 24 tracks from 24 singles (I presume)
-- bands like Hated, Velocity Girl, Unrest, etc.  You know.
Unfortunately, they're not very good.  Hated, for instance (which is
the band of that other Liquorice person, isn't it?), do this
atrocious version of "I am a Rock".  Puh-leeze!  Superchunk do their
tune -- again.  I mean, we've heard it ten times before, and it was
tiresome even after the first ten seconds of the first time.  I don't
know about the rest of this stuff, because it all sounds the same --
except for this odd thing with a school bell that goes off.  It's
annoying, but at least it's different.

--
  "Yes.  The journey through the human heart
     would have to wait until some other time."


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:22:49 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: scheer


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Here, here !!! (fell for them on the Volume series)....

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From: Jeff Keibel[SMTP:redshift@INTERLOG.COM]
Subject: scheer


I sincerely hope scheer do well.  Their "Infliction" album has been
selling less than OK-ish and I'd hate to see them the victim of a label
house cleaning!  I fell in love with sceer after the "Howling Boy" 7" and
again live at "Shaving The Pavement".  Audrey has a voice that sends
chills up my spine and the band writes truly affecting songs.  I'd like
to see a This Mortal Coil version of "In Your Hand".  I'm supporting
scheer and hope they continue releasing material on 4AD or elsewhere just
as long as they continue to do their thing...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:18:16 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: New things


Jane Siberry left Reprise for more freedom.  The Kelley Deal 6000 album
is better than "Pacer".  Jenny Toomey is amazing in my book!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:55:46 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: Propaganda


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A favourite 12" of theirs is Dr Mabuse - absolutely brilliant - Does =
anyone remeber the movie Some Kind Of Wondeful - Dir - John Hughes where =
the tracj appeared but not on the soundtrack, ( beginning to feel old ! =
)

....Jason
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From: Shar Everett[SMTP:ISOBL202@AOL.COM]
Subject: Re: Propaganda


i love propaganda!
i saw this amazing box set about 4 years ago but, did not buy it. ... =
bad
move...

this list is really bringing back some old favs....


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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:21:18 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: scheer


Jeff, don't be afraid to use a capital 'S' for Scheer... It's all a graphic
design ploy to fuck with the minds of journalists; trust me.

Am I imagining things, or is the album version of "Shea" mixed differently
from the e.p.?

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t h e   m y s t e r y   p a r a d e
esoteric graphic design
                  tmp@earthlink.net
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:04:56 +0400
From: Umur Celikyay (umur@BILKENT.EDU.TR)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...


On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Emiel Efdee wrote:

> It must have been on this list for a few times but:
>
> I know what E.P.S. means (I work with those kind of things every day), and
> we have something in the Netherlands that's called S.E.P. and S.P.E., but
> what the hell does 'E.S.P.' mean? Is it: "Extrasensory Perception"?
>
>
> Just a stupid question from:
>
> Emiel Efdee
> ...
> the Netherlands, July 18, 1996
> ... efdee@luna.nl
>

If you happen to be an English Instructor like me,
"E.S.P" means English for Special Purposes.
(that was a stupid answer, sorry)

Cheers
umur

umur@bilkent.edu.tr


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:22:02 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: ESP


On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Emiel Efdee wrote:

> It must have been on this list for a few times but:
>
> I know what E.P.S. means (I work with those kind of things every day), and
> we have something in the Netherlands that's called S.E.P. and S.P.E., but
> what the hell does 'E.S.P.' mean? Is it: "Extrasensory Perception"?


It could mean another HNIA "Effing Side Project"  ;)

Who can tell?

sir h C


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:11:01 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Propaganda


Shar Everett wrote:
>
> i love propaganda!
> i saw this amazing box set about 4 years ago....

Did Propaganda ever released a box set?

If they did, someone please let me know!! I will be extremely keen to
get my hands on this!!

tytan

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:15:00 GMT
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Lush "500"


     Good review. I'm planning on picking up both the Frank Black and
     Arch-Drude Godhead Julian Cope stuff this weekend, so well timed. I'd
     already received the Lush arty-faKts ;)!! Not really impressed but it
     keeps the collection uptodate. The term 'money for old rope' springs
     to mind.

     Paul Walsh.
     Paul.Walsh@Petrolite.co.uk
     Manchester, UK.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Lush "500"

Date: 18/07/96 10:40 Bought the singles yesterday. By a cunning selection of covers, remixes and acoustic versions Miki and Emma have managed to avoid having to write any new songs, though they did let the drummer (?) do one. Remember that "New Wave of New Wave" scene that the NME was so keen on a year or so ago? Enough said. The A-side has been remixed to make it even more irritatingly saccharine, and it seems to be playing everywhere I go these days, so it may be a Big Summer Hit and they can all go and buy yachts and hang out with Bill Wyman in the South of France. Great pop music. Other stuff: Julian Cope's "I Come From Another Planet, Baby" is fine, though I wish he wouldn't sing "buybuy" in that Adam Faith accent, and the B-side is ten minutes of utterly deranged ramblings about Mother Earth being like an amphetamine pessary, buying an electric piano from a care in the community victim, and wanting the Orb to wear lipstick. Over whooshing synth noises, of course. The accompanying "ambient" remix "Ambulence" is ambient up to the point where it starts to sound like a jet aircraft taking off, at which point I decided to turn it off and concentrate on the TV news. Oh, and Frank Black has a new single out if anyone's interested. I bought them because they were 99p each but haven't plucked up the courage to listen to the things. Two album tracks, a Ray Davies cover (previously on a promo 7") and a lot of live stuff spread over the two CDs. Cover art is the dictionary definition of crap, of course. -- Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 18/07/96 nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/ Jack - Pioneer Soundtracks

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:04:13 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Propaganda


> Didn't they have an album called "1234" or something? I seem to recall > it di
n't feature Claudia Brucken at all.

Yes, Propaganda did release "1234", but it wasn't the original lineup.
It just wasn't the same. As far as "1234" is concerned, I don't
recognize it as a true Propaganda release.


tytan

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:18:46 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Propaganda


Jeff Keibel wrote:
>
> Brant,
>
> Thompson Twins still hold a place in my heart!  As do:  MIssing Persons,
> Nena, Blancmange, Visage, Romeo Void, Cyndi Lauper, Duran Duran, The
> Police, The Bangles and 4AD's own Modern English...

......Lotus Eaters, Ultravox, FGTH, TFF (early stuff).....

tytan

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:28:13 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: The Lover Speaks


Just wanted to ask if anyone's heard of this group 'The Lover Speaks'?

Great stuff! They've only got 1 self-titled album. At least, that's what
I know. Would love to hear that they've got more releases. Anyone knows?

Annie Lennox's "No More I Love Yous" was originally done by The Lover
Speaks.

I believe TLS was headed by David Freeman who co-wrote & sang on a track
in one of Alison Moyet's album.

Does anyone know of other works/projects by David Freeman? what happened
to him anyway?

tytan

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:34:40 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: 4AD Graphic Design Flaws


>While this is not v23, it is a 4AD release, though...  I'm speaking of
>Air Miami's "Me Me Me" album.  The vinyl of this album has the number
>CAD 5011, as we all know.  However, on the inner sleeve, the number reads
>5012, which is really the number for a scheer EP!!  Is this an
>intentional glitch?  Was the album originally assigned the 5012 number?

We discussed this on the list September/October last year, and we concluded
(anyone correct me if I'm wrong) that a couple of releases got assigned new
catalogue numbers because a new Lush 12"/CD was cancelled (or rescheduled):

5011 Lush single, cancelled

5012 Air Miami 'Me.Me.Me.' album, becomes 5011

5013 Scheer 'Schism' 12"/CD, becomes 5012 (see the running grooves)

Mark Robinson/Teenbeat Graphica did the artwork for 'Me.Me.Me.' himself and
most likely finished it before the change of cat.#.. He then forgot to
change 5012 to 5011 on the LP inner bag. Anyway, I'll ask him about it.


>Also, note ALL the subtle differences in cover art from the UK "Me Me Me"
>and the US version.  The US version, which came out long before the UK
>version, lists the song "Reprise" as cut # 13.  On the UK version, that
>same song is listed as # 14, ommiting # 13 entirely!!  Thirteen, unlucky
>for many, some of the time...

...Teenbeat have released the In Camera '13 (Lucky For Some)' CD in the USA
(TB# 106), but intentionally skipped #113 in their catalogue! Well, that
doesn't explain anything of course.


>There are many art changes from US and UK versions of this album!

Yeah, and I wonder what they had to do to get that beautiful Warner Bros.
cat.# 46000 !!

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:36:32 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Propaganda and other 80's bands~


In a message dated 96-07-18 16:35:31 EDT, you write:

<< Thompson Twins still hold a place in my heart!  As do:  MIssing Persons,
 Nena, Blancmange, Visage, Romeo Void, Cyndi Lauper, Duran Duran, The
 Police, The Bangles and 4AD's own Modern English...

 Jeff Keibel
 Toronto, ON
 CANADA
  >>


ah, let us not forget Kajagoogoo......of course everyone remembers "Too Shy",
but my others faves include "Ooh to be Ah" and "Hang on Now"...

anyone else?

~^blu^~

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:37:08 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins


In a message dated 96-07-18 19:20:24 EDT, you write:

<< sorry, but I've gotta stick my 2 or 3 cents in here...

 does anyone remember 'if you were here' from Sidekicks?  it was played in
 the last scene and over the closing credits of Sixteen Candles?

 my bands been playing that live for the last few months...it always draws
 interesting comments from people afterwards.

 rick
  >>


you know I love that song...and it's too bad they never put out a soundtrack
(if they did, I can't find it)

~blu


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:20:34 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: KAJAGOOGOO???????


>ah, let us not forget Kajagoogoo......of course everyone remembers "Too Shy",
>but my others faves include "Ooh to be Ah" and "Hang on Now"...

Big Apple; Turn Your Back On Me

>anyone else?

Let's go the whole hog on Newro / electro:

Japan;  DuranDuran; Tears For Fears (first album);
Blancmange; Flock of Seagulls; Classix Noveau;
Talk Talk; Human League; Heaven 17; Spandau Ballet;
Tubeway Army/Gary Numan; Visage; Ultravox;
Simple Minds; OMD (early); Naked Eyes (first album);
Howard Jones; Nik Kershaw; Eurythmics (1st couple of albums);
T Twins (as mentioned); Alphaville (first LP)

VERY thislisty NOT; but good stuff in my books......

I reckon a few of us remember going through the newro phase....

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:31:54 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins/16 candles


>
> I can't possibly be the only other person on this list who has seen
> Sixteen Candles and most of the other John Hughes movies many too many
> times.  For those who only vaguely remember, Molly Ringwold is standing in

if anyone on this list has not seen it, it on the usa network tonight
at 7:00pm and again at 1:00am.

don't ask how i know this little bit of info,
alan


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:59:42 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: LUSH 8 'Single Bloke'


I'm afraid I lost the original post from the person telling that he had
heard a rumour about the new UK promo 12" for Lush '500 (Shake Baby Shake)'
(LUSH 8) including BBC Radio's Mark Radcliffe and some other guy (forgot his
name) doing their own version of 'Single Girl', called 'Single Blokes'.
I got the 12" today and it DOES indeed include an uncredited extra track,
'Single Bloke'. They changed the lyrics (and play the song themselves?). The
lyrics are so obnoxious that it MUST be Radcliffe.

LUSH 8
LUSH '500 (Shake Baby Shake)' 12" promo only in LUSH custom die-cut sleeve
A1. 500 (Shake Baby Shake)
A2. Single Bloke (uncrediterd)
B. Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix)


And that new Throwing Muses promo:

MUSE 3
THROWING MUSES 'Shark' 12" promo only in grey card die-cut sleeve
A. Shark
B. Ruthies's Knocking


Frank

+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:57:58 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????


>Japan;  DuranDuran; Tears For Fears (first album);
>Blancmange; Flock of Seagulls; Classix Noveau;
>Talk Talk; Human League; Heaven 17; Spandau Ballet;
>Tubeway Army/Gary Numan; Visage; Ultravox;
>Simple Minds; OMD (early); Naked Eyes (first album);
>Howard Jones; Nik Kershaw; Eurythmics (1st couple of albums);
>T Twins (as mentioned); Alphaville (first LP)


Yeah, and what about:

Bronski Beat, China Crisis, Cabaret Voltaire, Anne Clark, Dead Or Alive,
Depeche Mode, Freur, Kissing The Pink, Rainbirds, Scritti Politti, Soft
Cell, Yazoo and Richard Clayderman...





Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, July 19, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:01:04 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: Insides


i thought it was mostly boring but there is a sort of edgey/queasy (?iguess i've
never written that word before) feeling to it that has kept me from getting rid
of it.  nothing compared to portishead, definitely.  i've seen some people on
here who seem to really like them though.

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:25:54 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...


Emiel Efdee wrote:

>what the hell does 'E.S.P.' mean?

E.S.P. = Eat Some Potatoes

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:49:17 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Time Again For The Golden Sunset


Whenever I hear Pluto's "Paste" it sounds like a mutant version of
Bauhaus and The Go Go's!  Also, that "Children" video from Robert Miles
looks a little too much like the director watched the "Lonely Is An
Eyesore" video prior to shooting it!!

Jeff Keibel, Toronto, ON, CANADA ========================================


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:50:12 -0500
From: mark&sarah (mrf546t@NIC.SMSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????


On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:

> Let's go the whole hog on Newro / electro:
>
> Japan;  DuranDuran; Tears For Fears (first album);
> Blancmange; Flock of Seagulls; Classix Noveau;
> Talk Talk; Human League; Heaven 17; Spandau Ballet;
> Tubeway Army/Gary Numan; Visage; Ultravox;
> Simple Minds; OMD (early); Naked Eyes (first album);
> Howard Jones; Nik Kershaw; Eurythmics (1st couple of albums);
> T Twins (as mentioned); Alphaville (first LP)
>
> VERY thislisty NOT; but good stuff in my books......
>
> I reckon a few of us remember going through the newro phase....

remember?  i still go thru this phase every few months.  and let me add,
very early depeche mode (speak and spell!), abc (first album), lime, and
best of all, yellow magic orchestra.

BTW, my first live show was howard jones/eurythmics in 1994.  (those were
howard's glory days, just him and the mime...


mark

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:41:49 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Propaganda


>> Didn't they have an album called "1234" or something? I seem to recall >
it didn't feature Claudia Brucken at all.
>
>Yes, Propaganda did release "1234", but it wasn't the original lineup.
>It just wasn't the same. As far as "1234" is concerned, I don't
>recognize it as a true Propaganda release.

History lesson:
Okay, the girls up front always attract the attention, but Propaganda was a
Ralph Dorper (ex-Die Krupps and later back with Die Krupps) project. He'd
recorded 2 7" under his own name for the German Zick Zack label, that were
released in 1982 on a 12", 'Eraserhead' by the Crepuscule/Rough Trade
sublabel Operation Twilight (OPT 018) before Dorper started Propaganda. A
12", 'Diziplin' was scheduled for Twilight release (OPT 019) but then ZTT's
Trevor Horn and Paul Morley came along and snatched away Dorper/Propaganda
from Patrick Moore's hands. The girls came in, Morley married one of them,
she recorded with electro veteran Thomas Leer as Act and even did a solo
album (isn't it?) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:59:14 EST
From: Network Manager (system@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: NDN:Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????


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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:42:24 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: scheer


Ivo Watts-Russell wrote:

"...somewhere between sheer terror and total euphoria..."

Audrey Gallagher is a goddess and scheer are incredible!  The
"Infliction" album is better than "Spiritchaser" when it comes to 4AD's
1996 releases so far!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:42:14 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...


Emiel wrote:
>I know what E.P.S. means (I work with those kind of things every day), and
>we have something in the Netherlands that's called S.E.P. and S.P.E., but
>what the hell does 'E.S.P.' mean? Is it: "Extrasensory Perception"?

Well, that's the usual meaning.

I dimly remember, when I was a youngster, reading a novel called "ESP
Summer" about a teenage girl who develops psychic powers. I'm pretty sure
that was the title. Someone more obsessed by all things HNIA than I am
(and that includes most of you!) might want to look up this title in
Books In Print.

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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

              "Dreeb! Dreeb! I am the Fuse-Box Dwarf!"
                                            _____________________________
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:34:34 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins


your band does this song??
would like to hear that...
i like this song as well.
looked for it for a long time after seeing that movie....

funny how people who are into 4ad now were all into that early 80's
techno/dance, etc.... ie propaganda, a certain ratio, thompson twins,
xmox....
this list never ceases to suprise me...

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:46:37 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!


THIS LIST HAS COMPLETELY VEERED FROM 4AD SHWAG....

WHAT A NICE SUPRISE.....

FUNNY HOW SOME OF US WHO LIKE 4AD NOW LIKED ALL OF THE SAME BANDS WAY BACK
WHEN IE: PROPAGANDA, A CERTAIN RATIO, THOMPSON TWINS, ETC.....
GO FIGURE....

ANYONE CARE TO COMMENT ON LONG LOST TECHNO TREATS LIKE AILEEM, TAFFY, MAY 60,
 SCARLET FANTASTIC.....

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 11:27:11 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: Thompson Twins


>> my bands been playing that live for the last few months...it always draws
>> interesting comments from people afterwards.
>
>What kind of band?  Is it a radically different version?

slow/indie rock...

well, there's no keyboards, and there's more dynamics and we make a lot a
noise in a couple of places...probably makes no sense until you hear it.

rick

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:50:17 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: E.P.S.E.P.S.P.E.S.P...


At 12:25 19-07-96 -0700, you wrote:
>Emiel Efdee wrote:
>
>>what the hell does 'E.S.P.' mean?

ESP = American jazz label from the '70/'80's
ESP = Dutch (Amsterdam based) ambient label

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:35:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????


Emiel Efdee wrote:
>
> >Japan;  DuranDuran; Tears For Fears (first album);
> >Blancmange; Flock of Seagulls; Classix Noveau;
> >Talk Talk; Human League; Heaven 17; Spandau Ballet;
> >Tubeway Army/Gary Numan; Visage; Ultravox;
> >Simple Minds; OMD (early); Naked Eyes (first album);
> >Howard Jones; Nik Kershaw; Eurythmics (1st couple of albums);
> >T Twins (as mentioned); Alphaville (first LP)
>
> Yeah, and what about:
>
> Bronski Beat, China Crisis, Cabaret Voltaire, Anne Clark, Dead Or Alive,  Depe
he Mode, Freur, Kissing The Pink, Rainbirds, Scritti
Politti, Soft Cell, Yazoo and Richard Clayderman...

What about Annabel Lamb?  ever heard her two A&M albums?  She does a
wicked cover of The Doors' "Riders On The Sorm".

Have any of you heard of Cocteau Twins?  I heard they may have been on
4AD at some time...

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:05:11 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Scenic/Lanterna arrives next week


I don't have the dates in front of me, but next week
will see a short tour featuring Scenic (IPR's posse
of tumbleweed instrumentalists) and Lanterna (Henry
Frayne of Moon Seven Times fame doing instrumental stuff I'm much
more interested in). It's a solely a West Coast tour with
something like 6 dates. I'll post 'em when I have them.
Check the IPR site.

Following the 80s thread I started,
for me all the wonderful brit/techno/pop was THE defining
element of my musical development. Ultravox was my band
of choice (seems kinda silly now, I suppose). Chances are
if you need any particular thing by them, I definitely have
it. I went nuts collecting it all. Cocteau Twins was the band
that pulled me out of this in 1987 (by then all the 80's stars
were has-been's anyway-- what the HELL happened to Simple Minds,
anyway-- Sanctify Yourself, my ass!, but I digress).

Brant

"Terminate this torment of Love unsatisfied
 End this endless journey to nowhere"

                             Virginia Astley

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:33:35 -0400
From: alex (tmp5@ATLGR.COM)
Subject: Looking for some CT songs


Does anyone know the name of the Cocteau Twins songs that apperared in Baywatch
(I used to know the names) and where I can find copies of them.

Alex

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:59:09 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????


i grew up without cable in a small missouri town (this sentence makes me laugh,
but it's true) so my only musical source was the radio.  lucky for me radio was
having a good couple of years--amongst all the crap there were some wonderful
songs by dream academy, a-ha, elvis costello, blow monkeys, psychedelic furs,
bronski beat, icicle works...(and no, i'm not reading from one of those tacky
80's nostalgia compilations).  no matter that many bands were "one hit wonders".
i think that come on eileen and 99 red balloons were worth more than everything
i've heard by def leppard (sp?) and van halen put together.  i'd hate to be a
kid in the same situation today.  radio is so bland and repetitious it makes me
sick and i'd probably be one of these alternatots who think trent reznor is god.
ok.  sorry if i've offended any nin, VH (dave's back!), def l., or k-tel fans.

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:14:49 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: the demise of Jane


Understanding Jane (there's an 80's title for you. Identify
it and win a Dewdrops subscription).

In my opinion, Jane Siberry's career has been spiralling
slowly downward since Bound By The Beauty. Or The Walking,
for that matter. Maybe she still has something to say,
but I can't stand to listen anymore. From the uninspired,
easy listening of When I Was A Boy, to the jazz of Maria,
she has permanently lost me. Keep in mind, though, that
I really, really don't go for jazz (odd, coming from a
Dif Juz fanatic). I think it was said best by Bruce from
the Kids In The Hall, who said 'Jazz is the musical
equivalent of vomit.' It's probably ridiculous of me
to totally dismiss an entire musical genre, but Dif Juz
is the only jazz I have ever heard that means anything
to me. I can understand the talent and complexity involved,
but it just makes me cringe. Like techno. But don't get me
started on that...

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:58:52 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: jane siberry


i love the maria disc.  i was surprised by its jazziness when i first listened
to it but not in a bad way.  there's a quirky complexity to jane siberry that
makes everything she does wonderful whatever type of music she's tinkering with.
listening to maria elicits a range of emotions.  honey bee is inspiring.  lovin'
cup runneth over with cheesy happiness.  and the 20 min. oh my my at the end
leaves me feeling deeply melancholy.  this sadness is composed of memories and
realizations stirred up by the song and brings about a small amount of
introspection whereas a cd like children of god by swans is so thoroughly bleak
and oppressive that it can sour the brightest day and just leaves me in a
horrible mood.  as uncomfortable as that may sound, i really miss that from
them.  they have had so many boring releases in the past eight or so years that
i've given up on them.  anyway, jane has her own record company now called
SHEEBA records which is supposed to have something out already called Teenager,
and will also be doing books.  sounds quite fun to me.  the website is at
www.sheeba.ca but i haven't had any luck with it yet.
"i love these things so these things shall i bee"

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:30:18 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: red house painters


this info is direct from island.

old news:
        the album comes out july 23 in the states with a
        single for 'all mixed up' to follow by about a
        month.

tour news:
        limited american dates in august.
        a cmj show in september.
        a uk tour to follow the cmj show.
        a complete tour of the states starting in october.

i'll post a complete tour date list if and when i get one.  for
those that haven't heard the album and care, it is simply amazing.
all of it is tear-inducing beautiful, and 'feel the rain fall' started
my foot tapping which eventually lead to me bouncing all about my
room.

enjoy.

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:30:41 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!

              at Jul 19, 96 02:46:37 pm

>
> THIS LIST HAS COMPLETELY VEERED FROM 4AD SHWAG....
>
> WHAT A NICE SUPRISE.....
>
Ok, since we all seem to be coming out of the closet, well, it's time to
come out and admit that I, yes I, am a closet Osmonds fan.

        _
      _( )_          _
    _(     )_      _( )_
   (_________)   _(     )_
     \  \  \    (_________)
       \  \       \  \  \   And the storms pour over my guilt
                    \  \

Ciao for now.


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:44:19 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Flock of Seagulls????


>What about Annabel Lamb?  ever heard her two A&M albums?  She does a
>wicked cover of The Doors' "Riders On The Sorm".

Lamb was in BowWowWow, wasn't she. BowWowWow (managed by Malcolm McLaren)
was the first band ever to release a cassette-single! Forgot the title....
(something like 'C90C60C30').

Yeah, those where the days, Situationism etc.

Frank

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:26 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: jane siberry


Shane Clark  writes:

> anyway, jane has her own record company now called SHEEBA records
> which is supposed to have something out already called Teenager, and
> will also be doing books.  sounds quite fun to me.  the website is at
> www.sheeba.ca but i haven't had any luck with it yet.

Whee!   works fine, and Siberry's new album
was released almost a month ago -- and it's only available through
mail order.


         "TEENAGER" features 13 songs written by Jane
            during her teens and recorded in March '96.

I'll be ordering a copy straight away, I think.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:14:53 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: scheer


I don't know about the version of "Shea", but the US promo of "Wish You Were
Dead" is CONSIDERABLY different from the album version...I LOVE that song!
(either version)

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:34:40 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Scenic/Lanterna arrives next week


virginia astley is wondrous
her voice just melts

why are her albums so expensive and impossible to find?

better yet why is all the music we like here on this list so damn hard to
find...... argh!!!!

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:17:28 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: KAJAGOOGOO???????


>no matter that many bands were "one hit wonders".
>i think that come on eileen and 99 red balloons were worth more than
>everything
>i've heard by def leppard (sp?) and van halen put together.  i'd hate to be a
>kid in the same situation today.  radio is so bland and repetitious it
>makes me
>sick and i'd probably be one of these alternatots who think trent reznor
>is god.

While I'm not a fan of Nine Inch Nails (or many of the other alternabands
that get radio airplay) I have to say I'd much rather listen to them than
to the insipid cheesy synth novelties that filled the airwaves during the
'80s. The stuff that pounded the stake into the heart of New Wave music
and reduced the cutting edge to stuff for girls with big hair and day-glo
spandex outfits to hop up and down to at the mall. I was there, I
remember it, it was sad. Just thought I'd introduce a dissenting note
into all this 80s-worship.

If we're going to talk about the '80s, how about Tones On Tail, Kate
Bush, Hunters & Collectors, Sonic Youth, Cabaret Voltaire, Savage
Republic, Danielle Dax, as well as the usual 4AD suspects?

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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:46:26 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: hoover


has anyone here heard of these guys??

any info?

sharlito@teleport.com

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:47:27 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: lisa germano


does anyone know when her new release is due out??

does she have a space in the 4ad site??

do tell...

sharlito@teleport.com

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:34:17 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Lanterna Dates


Since Brant mentioned the Lanterna tour i thought i'd pass on the info that i
just found out from the projekt list.

-cz

"Mark Wilson"  wrote:

>   I know this is a little off topic, but since people have
>   mentioned Area in the  past, I was hoping people
>   wouldn't mind this post.
>
>   Ex-Area and current The Moon Seven Times guitarist Henry
>   Frayne's solo  instrumental project Lanterna will be
>   doing a short West Coast tour opening  for Scenic (does
>   anybody know anything about them?) in the next couple of
>   weeks.  If you hear about them playing in your area, I
>   highly recommend that  you go see them.  (And no, I
>   don't have anything to do with this tour or its
>   promotion; I just thought that people might want be
>   interested.)
>   July 23: Tempe, AZ - Stinkweed's
>   July 24: San Diego, CA - Casbah (also w/ Physics)
>   July 25: Santa Monica, CA - Alligator Lounge (w/ Polar
>   Goldie Cats and Jeffrey  Clark)
>   July 26: Emeryville, CA - Formula (w/ Dart)
>   July 28: Eugene, OR - Sam Bond's Garage
>   July 29: Ballard, WA - Tractor Tavern (w/ Memorium)
>   July 30: Portland, OR - Clinton Street Theatre
>
>   Mark

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:55:16 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: More Xymox news


This comes from the Xymox web site:
www.cybercomm.nl/~xymox/xymox.html

Xymox made the soundtrack for the CD Rom game "Total Mayhem" released
by Domark in the U.S.A. (released May 1996) The music however is not
representative for the new album of Xymox to be released soon All
tracks are instrumental " purpose made" for the"Total Mayhem" game.
The new album of Xymox will sound like their earlier works on 4-AD and
a complete departure from what they have released in the early
nineties.(Metamorphosis,Headclouds).  We will let you know when it
will be released as the band is still working on the recordings.

The site has a complete discography, t-shirt offers, lyrics,
e-mail to Ronny, pictures, etc.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:41:09 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow


i though that her name was annabella but, i could be wrong...
what are these a and m releases?...

i know that she relased this wacky song called eifel tower with malcom
mclaren and the mclarenettes -it's been on a couple of soundtracks but, i've
never seen any other albums by her... hmm....

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:29:43 -0500
From: Terry Collins (ispy@OAK.NCC.UMN.EDU)
Subject: Ultravox

              Records" at Jul 19, 96 12:05:11 pm

>
> Following the 80s thread I started,
> for me all the wonderful brit/techno/pop was THE defining
> element of my musical development. Ultravox was my band
> of choice (seems kinda silly now, I suppose). Chances are
> if you need any particular thing by them, I definitely have
> it. I went nuts collecting it all.
>
> Brant
>
I remember them days!  It was late summer of 1980 when I first
heard "Vienna" and "Sleepwalk."  Even went so far as to try for
the patented Midge Ure Pencil Thin Mustache (tm).  Aren't a couple
of the band members still hanging around and releasing stuff as
Ultravox?  It seems to me there was a CD out last year, but I
never heard it.

And while we're digging up the dead, how about the Australian version of
Ultravox, namely, Icehouse.  I loved their first two albums, "Icehouse" and
"Primitive Man."  And what about former Ultravox front man John Foxx's
1980 album "Metamatic"?  Any of you fans remember this stuff?

  -iSpy-
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:24:33 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Liz Fraser in Hole?


At 04:44 7/17/96 +0000, you wrote:
>At 11:37 AM 7/16/96 +0400, you wrote:
>>Guys, I have something strange to ask
>>
>>My feeble memory "claims" that I have personally watched a video
>>by the group called HOLE, featuring vocals by none other than
>>Elizabeth Frazer! Please tell me that I am wrong...

You're wrong...only thing Liz Frazier & Hole have in common is that they
both played Lollipop-loser, or Liz tried to, anyway.

Carol Coney

Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:40:38 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!


>Ok, since we all seem to be coming out of the closet, well, it's time to
>come out and admit that I, yes I, am a closet Osmonds fan.


CRAZY HORSES CRAZY HORSSESS WHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:15:20 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Ultravox


The new Midge Ure solo album just came out via Zoo/BMG...

Jeff Watts-Russell
Toronto, ON
CANADA


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:14:14 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow


Shar Everett wrote:

> i though that her name was annabella but, i could be wrong...
> what are these a and m releases?...

Yes, the Bow Wow Wow Annabella and the A&M Annabel Lamb ARE different.
I'd love to find her A&M albums with "Riders On The Storm" on it!  My
vinyl copies are all scratchy from overplaying...

Jeff Keibel
East York, ON
CANADA

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:52:08 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: bow wow wow


Bow Wow Wow's luscious jailbait singer (she was 14 when Malcolm McLaren
discovered her in a laundrette) was Annabella Lwin. Not the same person
who covered "Riders On the Storm".

>i know that she relased this wacky song called eifel tower

"Sexy Eiffel Tower" was a Bow Wow Wow song, from one of their first two
albums. But I think the 12" remix of "See Jungle See Jungle Go Join Your
Gang Yeah City All Over Go Ape Crazy" is their highest moment (not to
mention the world's greatest long song title up until the Orb's "A Huge
Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of the
Ultraworld"...)

And the cassette-single was called "Your Cassette Pet" and the song on it
was "C30 C60 C90 Go!", an ode to home taping.

Ex-new-waver Jens signing off...

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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

to wound the autumnal city. So howled out to the world to give him a name.
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:07:41 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: YOU CRAZY LISTERS!!!!


At 18:46 7/19/96 +0000, you wrote:
>THIS LIST HAS COMPLETELY VEERED FROM 4AD SHWAG....
>
>WHAT A NICE SUPRISE.....
>
>FUNNY HOW SOME OF US WHO LIKE 4AD NOW LIKED ALL OF THE SAME BANDS WAY BACK
>WHEN IE: PROPAGANDA, A CERTAIN RATIO, THOMPSON TWINS, ETC.....
>GO FIGURE....
>
>ANYONE CARE TO COMMENT ON LONG LOST TECHNO TREATS LIKE AILEEM, TAFFY, MAY 60,
> SCARLET FANTASTIC.....

You don't have to shout...we hear you just fine!

However, never heard of those early techno teams.

Carol Coney
>


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 19:26:20 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: jane siberry


>i love the maria disc.

I think Jane Siberry is brilliant. You can't really compare "Maria" to her
previous work, but it's still a very well-made album. She has absolutely
improved since "The Walking"!

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