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Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:55:54 -0500
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: D,D&E (Daylight, dreams & echoes)
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:16:37 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Chimera live at NYC
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:20 -0400
From: xymox (xymox@ESCAPE.COM)
Subject: Re: shinkansen stuff
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:41 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:32:50 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (gtr0393@ASK.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:29:49 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (gtr0393@ASK.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: hector zazou--varttina
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:58 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: His Name is Alive flexi
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:22:25 -0400
From: Susan F Curran (warped@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: Re: zazou/budd
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:38 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: hector zazou
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:42 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: reviews + what the cK happened to BiZ?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:53:12 -0400
From: Einexile@AOL.COM
Subject: DCD > US
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:16:18 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: 4AD > US
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:16:21 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 06:07:31 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:40:11 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: magnetic fields
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:23:33 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:58:47 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: class action lawsuits and whatnot...
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:39:44 +0930
From: Mike Oxlong (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus debate/clueless
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:02:33 -0400
From: bleeding leaves (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:37:54 -0400
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Clan of Xymox bootleg?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:36 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: 4AD > US releases
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:44:51 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: shinkansen stuff
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:42:46 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:43:15 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:50:17 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:43:24 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:59:32 -0500
From: mark&sarah (mrf546t@NIC.SMSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:41:06 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:06:19 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:02:44 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:00:14 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: New good. Old bad. Baaaa!
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:57:55 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: His name is whot?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:45:44 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Slowdive
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:01:41 -0400
From: Nathan Medema (ay642@freenet.carleton.ca)
Subject: Finding HNIA - cdnow
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:36:21 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Re: New good. Old bad. Baaaa!
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:38:43 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: His name is whot?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:47:03 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Clan of Xymox bootleg?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:10:34 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@u.washington.edu)
Subject: Dead Can Dance in Philly
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:38:00 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive flexi
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:35:40 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM

Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:55:54 -0500
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer


Joseph Burns wrote:
> ESP Continent is pretty much the straightforward sessions of
> callaboration between Ian Masters and Warren Defever. Its sorta in the
> vein of Spoonfed Hybrid musically, sparse but interesting instrumentation
> with a focus on Ian's voice and melody.
>
> ESP Summer takes the same session material and
> remixes/re-masters/defeverizes the songs ala Warren Defever. It takes a
> few of the songs and adds alot of production texture and atmospheric/dub
> effects.

Oh.  Well, if you put it that way, then yes, the ESP Continent CD is not
the same as the ESP Summer 10".  However, the ESP Continent CD is the same as
the ESP Summer cassette (and also the forthcoming ESP Summer CD on Perdition
Plastics).

> ESP Summer is avail as a 10". ESP Continent is avail as a French import
> on CD. ( I still have a couple copies if anybody's interested post me
> privately)

And needless to say, we still do have copies of the ESP Summer 10" available,
so e-mail me for details, if any of you, heaven forbid, are still interested.
;)

Danke,


hk
--
hk@neosoft.com farrago@delphi.com http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
"There's nothing the British like better than a bloke who comes from
 nowhere, makes it, and then gets clobbered." -- Melvyn Bragg


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:16:37 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: D,D&E (Daylight, dreams & echoes)


Last night I had a dream Audrey Gallagher from scheer was my girlfriend.
Then I woke up and discovered I had feel asleep with the CD player in
repeat mode, playing "Infliction" over and over again as I drifted into
deep REM sleep.  Details of the dream can be obtained by e mailing me
privately...  A ha ha ha ha!!

Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:20 -0400
From: xymox (xymox@ESCAPE.COM)
Subject: Chimera live at NYC


        I just fund out that Chimera will be playing at Brownies in NYC on
Aug. 14.  If you live in NYC, you might want to check them out.  By the way,
anyone knows if Chimera has any new release coming out?????

-JH

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:41 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: shinkansen stuff


> btw, went to see blueboy the other day and christian eternal / slowdive
>  was serving behind the bar...

I'm assuming that Blueboy is on shinkansen too, correct?  Or is there
upcoming 7" a one-off?

jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:32:50 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (gtr0393@ASK.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer


I'm sorry to send the previous message to the list.
---
 $BK-@n!!2m:H (B
gtr0393@ask.or.jp

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:29:49 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (gtr0393@ASK.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: ESP Continent vs ESP Summer


At 10:55 PM 96.7.12 -0500, a bear of very little brain wrote:
>And needless to say, we still do have copies of the ESP Summer 10" available,
>so e-mail me for details, if any of you, heaven forbid, are still interested.
>;)

Yes I'm still interested.
I checked your web site and come to know that you have ESP Dolphins too.

I'd like to get each one copy of ESP Summer 10" and ESP Dolphins.
How much it will be with airmail postage and packing ?

---
 $BK-@n!!2m:H (B
gtr0393@ask.or.jp

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 01:12:58 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: Re: hector zazou--varttina


...and just to take this to its furthest tangent.  varttina has three
releases of their own and all are quirky finnish folk songs.  not exactly
thislisty unless you take a sidestep to the north of bulgarian voices.
the latest 'aitara' is definitely worth a listen (se on ihan hyvaa, ma
luulen...but i am a bit biased towards things finnish.)




> Yes Yes Yes!  By all means buy this!  The Bjork tune is an Icelandic folk
> song, amazingly sad.  The Siouxsie is, well, Siouxsie....  Many other
> cool things on there--Varttina, a group from Finland, doing a souped-up
> (by Hector) Finnish folk song.  The low point in the album is the Suzanne
> Vega/John Cale song "Ocean" (or whatever)--my advice is program the track
> out....  Otherwise, the album is amazing--Inuit songs, an Ainu tune (the
> indigenous people of Japan)--generally neat stuff....
>
>
> Get it if you can!
>
> (just my $.02 tho)
>


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:22:25 -0400
From: Susan F Curran (warped@WORLD.STD.COM)
Subject: His Name is Alive flexi

              digest processor" at Jul 13, 96 00:01:26 am

someone wrote
> does anyone care to comment on the hnia 'my canada' flexi from
warped > reality?

 yes, it's brilliant! (oops, sorry i'm biased)

someone else wrote
> yeah, why can't i find the darned thing...after trying two GOOD reputable
> book stores and Tower AND Border's.....  no one has ever heard of
> it...and I know I've seen it somewhere before...... anyone in the
> Detroit area help?

it *is* available at tower. not sure how their distribution works,
though. it may take a while to actually get into stores. since you're in
detroit, it's also available at the record collector. chances are you
won't find too many at waldenbooks or barnes & ignoble.


    -Susan

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:48:38 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: zazou/budd

              1996 20:20:50 -0700

>   >as a zazou freak, i highly recommend "Glyph".  in fact
>   anything by these artists separately is just toe
>   tingling...so go and buy.
>
>   Sorry to be so clueless, but can someone tell me what
>   connection these two artists have in common?
>
>   Clueless in Seattle,

What they have in common is the album "Glyph"--isn't that how this thread
started?

They had it at Orpheum (Seattle) last time i checked.

-cz

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:43:42 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: hector zazou

              1996 20:06:16 -0700

>   >hector zazou also has a cd out called sahara blue
>   w/lori carson, john cage, gerard depardieu + more. the
>   music is an interpretation of arthur rimbauds poetry and
>   is quite beautiful.

Yes this is gorgeous but no, Lori Carson and John Cage are not on it (i have the
US version, but i don't think they're on the import either).  Perhaps you were
thinking Anneli Drecker and John Cale, or even more thislisty, Brendan Perry and
Lisa Gerrard.  Anyway it's my favorite of the Zazou disks.

>   There's another which I haven't heard mentioned called
>   "Songs from the Cold Seas" which has collaborations with
>   Bjork, I think Siouxsie, and some others. Haven't heard
>   it but want it.

Actually this is GREAT as well (not really due to Siouxsie or Bjork's input
though).  Several of us have mentioned this when it first came out but ...
Anyway there are some quite moving songs and it's grown on me quite a bit.  This
one is more "world" than Sahara Blue.

I also have "Geologies" and "Geographies" which are both very engaging modern
classical works.  As a shameless Zazou-ophile i am ashamed to admit that i
haven't bought Glyph yet but i will.

The only thing i've heard that i wasn't GAGA over was something something Bongo.
Even *that* was quite interesting but just not worth the import price.

-cz


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:53:12 -0400
From: Einexile@AOL.COM
Subject: reviews + what the cK happened to BiZ?


Just wrote to him at his summer AOL account and got a goofy message from
someone who has no idea what I am talking about. Eric you here on this list?

Anyway it seems he has simply disappeared into thin air...

Updated Worst Albums ov 1996 List:

1. Ride - Tarantula  (0/10)
2. Electronic - Raise the Pressure  (1/10)
3. Dead Can Dance - Spiritchaser  (2/10)
4. The Cure - Shite Mood Swings  (2/10)
5. Cocteau Twins - Milk & Kisses  (4/10)

Yes, I finally had the pleasure of hearing the hot new Electronic
record....my GOD this is the wackest shit I have heard since I don't know
when. With the exception of the single itself, every song on the album is
worse than the single b-sides, and with one exception they are all MUCH worse
than those songs. Not only are they stylistically lame, and not only are they
sing-songy as hell, but the record is almost devoid of the Marr guitar work
like you hear on the single. It is all this horrid dance music like I haven't
heard in a very long time. lamer than Technique, lamer than most of the crap
early 90s techno we all were forced to listen to...it is just hideous.
Sumner's vocals are nothing like on that one song. The melodies are
offensively cheezy; one song is actually moe syruppy than that song from
Friends, and that is no joke. He sings off pitch now and then. The whole
production is just amateurish and gives the impression that these people sat
on their asses for three years and then one day decided to write an album
based on the accumulated knowledge of their childhood. They have not learned
to use their equipment, they have not bothered to do one ounce of rewriting
for their music or lyrics. What we have here is an effortless record, and for
that it may only be the second worst album of the year, but it is certainly
far more despicable than Tarantula or any of those others. If I hear one more
piece of shit like this any time soon I may well stop buying records
altogether. Fuck the both of these miserable bastards. I'm returning this
rotten thing tomorrow.

Meanwhile, here's something I never thought I'd see, and I certainly didn't
think I'd risk it but I did, and it payed off some: a good His Name Is Alive
album. I am still absorbing the thing, but I will say that I like it, and I
will also say that except for the fact that some of it is--bite my
tongue--POORLY RECORDED (and no that is NOT cute or funny anymore anymore), I
am honestly impressed by what seems to have been put into the thing. It's not
the psychological ride that Home Is in Your Head was, but neither is it the
mess that Mouth by Mouth ruined my 1993 with. What we have here is a light,
thoughtful record that is consistent and doesn't lose control; i.e. it is not
the headbanging that turned MBM into the flagship for the downfall of 4AD and
it is not the reason I will probably never bother seeing HNIA live again.
That is, it is the good taste and careful construction of Where Knock Is Open
Wide as opposed to the tack and affected narcissism of Ear, the fun and love
of life you hear in Cornfield and Jack Rabbits, not the contemptuous screwing
around you hear in Dress Drink and Ink or the frustrated temper tantrum you
hear in songs like The Torso. The point being it's a pretty nice album, it
doesn't fall apart, and it doesn't treat the listener like shit. I may have
more to say about whether or not it is brilliant and visionary once I gather
a larger grasp of the album as a whole. What I can say right now is I enjoy
listening to it, the music is there and it's good, and I'm inclined to return
my respect to the people who made it. Yay.

On the other hand, it really is the time to dump v23 in a bag and toss it in
the river. With the exception of Lovelife, which was not ncessarily *good*
but at least had the advantage of being *charming*, they have recently been
responsible for the worst album art on the market. I've said it before and it
probably won't make any difference but I'll say it again just the same: TIME
TO FIND A NEW DESIGN FIRM.

Good afternoon everyone. Enjoy life before they outlaw it.


      e


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:16:18 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: DCD > US


Someone on who went to a DCD concert in Washington wrote this in alt.music.4ad:

>>Goodies included a free single cassette of The Snake and the Moon, Song of
the Dispossessed, and Indus.<<


So be alert, take a few extra copies (and send one to me ;-)



Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, July 13, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:16:21 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: 4AD > US


Oh... and someone else on alt.music.4ad wrote:


>>there was a rumor circulating about 2 mos ago that 4AD was closing down
its US offices and heading back to the UK, and would no longer be
distributed by Time/Warner here in the US.  They would go back to the old
days, where you could only get all this stuff via import (and somehow,
that made the releases so much cooler---they felt rare when you bought
'em!)<<



Emiel

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 06:07:31 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: your mail


i think u are looking for Ask!, the smiths mailing list.   :)

"good times, for a change, see the life i've had could make a good man bad"

JHR

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Shane Clark wrote:

> last night i dreamt that somebody loved me
>


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:40:11 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Mojave 3


I bought that Mojave 3 album a few days ago.  Hey!  It sucks!  Did I
miss the denouncement of this album or something?

The tunes range from poor sub-Badalamenti dross like "Love songs on
the radio" Country Lite rejects like "Where is the love".  It's quite
horrid.  Fascinating in its sheer awfulness.

Ok, ok, that's a bit OTT.  Some of the tracks are relatively
inoffensive -- "Pictures", for instance.  And "You're Beautiful" is a
heavenly song.  Worth the price of the album -- since I got it on
sale.

Tape "You're Beautiful" off a friend and stay clear of the rest of
this mess.

Oy vey.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:23:33 +0000
From: "a.e. nelson" (static@RCONNECT.COM)
Subject: magnetic fields


>
>it's also the second best song on the last magnetic fields album, get
>lost.  any other fans out there?
>
yes.  but i do have a question for you.  why is there a female singer on
the first two albums, and then a male singer on the next two?  i thought
the change was rather abrupt.  did she leave the band?
tony

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:58:47 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields

              96 08:23:33 am

> >it's also the second best song on the last magnetic fields album, get
> >lost.  any other fans out there?

> yes.  but i do have a question for you.  why is there a female singer on
> the first two albums, and then a male singer on the next two?  i thought
> the change was rather abrupt.  did she leave the band?
> tony

I was under the impression that the Magnetic Fields was basically a one
man show (Stephen Merritt) and that the first two albums - The Wayward Bus
and Distant Plastic Trees, now released together on one disc by Merge -
featured Susan Anway as something of a guest vocalist.  There was some
sort of odd irony with his blatantly gay lyrics being sung by a woman...

Having first heard MF on a SpinArt sampler called One Last Kiss, which had
the song 100,000 Fireflies, I too was taken aback when I heard Holiday,
which has Stephen singing.  But somehow his voice fits the quirky Casio
music, don't you think?

-greg


Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:39:44 +0930
From: Mike Oxlong (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: class action lawsuits and whatnot...


On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, naor wrote:

> you damn yanks better stop complaining about cd's that cost
>  $12.99 or I swear I'll come over there and kick your lucky
> asses. ;)
>
  hea hear ... I shelled out $28 for HNIA's E.S.P today ..
 cheapest in town ..

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:02:33 -0400
From: bleeding leaves (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus debate/clueless

              rekkid store folk

rather
>surprised that no-one's yet mentioned the (now historical) intra-band
>relationship between a certain drummer and a certain single girl...

Chris and Miki?

>200 years ago
>people didn't want "ground breaking stuff". they *wanted* the same old
>thing over and over again. they loved they opera they saw today and didn't
>care at all that it sounded very much like the one they saw last week.

I think there's still plenty of people around now who want to hear the same
old thing - why would there be classic rock radio, otherwise? I can't tell
you how many times I've heard people express opinions like "Why can't they
play something I know?" or "I haven't heard of this, so how can it be any good?"

The interesting thing about the opera example is that opera itself is a
misguided attempt to emulate the past - they thought the choruses in ancient
Greek plays actually sang their lines.

>>  "They broke up"
>>  "The band's name is 'Alive'?  We don't have it."
>>  "You mean the band 'Live'.  They don't have anything new."
>>  "It's in our warehouse.  We should have it sometime next week.  Maybe."
>>  "If we have anything it's called 'Mouth by Mouth'."

A Brent Bambury anecdote:
"Do you have My Bloody Valentine?
"Uhhh...is that a band?"
"[pause] No, it's something I sent you. So I guess you didn't get my hate
letters either?"


Larry

"Some of it's done with mirrors/And some of it's done with scissors/Some of
it's done with cables and his hands under the table"


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:37:54 -0400
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus

              debate/clueless rekkid store folk

>>I'm rather surprised that no-one's yet mentioned the (now historical)
>>intra-band relationship between a certain drummer and a certain
>>single girl...
>
>Chris and Miki?

At last...


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:21:36 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Clan of Xymox bootleg?


Whilst browsing a new Clan of Xymox page,

  http://www.cybercomm.nl/~xymox/xymox.html

I found this CD listed:

DARK PLEASURES
CD ? GER ? ?
Bootleg Contains
  Subsequent Pleasures  (yes, I have the ugly US copy of this)
  Live Schlachthoff Bremen 29/08/87  (I'm dying to hear this)
  Stranger (Razormaid-Remix)         (haven't heard it)

Does anyone have this CD? I've been looking for it for over 3 years. I've only f
und one person online who had it... he wouldn't sell it, of course. He did tell 
e that it had an H.R. Geiger cover... so there's hope that it is out there.

If any of you know where I can pick this up, or would like to post a review, tha
 would be great.

John

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:44:51 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD > US releases


About the newsgroup post...

>>They would go back to the old days, where you could only get all this stuff
via import (and somehow, that made the releases so much cooler---they felt
rare when you bought 'em!<<

I'd say that 75-85% of 4AD releases are still this way. The Warner deal only
made it 100% easier to obtain CD and Cassette album releases. 4AD puts out
much more than this (EPs, singles, vinyl formats).

Actually, from talk on the mailing list, it seems that it's difficult to find
even domestic 4AD releases.

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:42:46 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: shinkansen stuff


>I'm assuming that Blueboy is on shinkansen too, correct?  Or is there
>upcoming 7" a one-off?

No, they signed to Shinkansen.


Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:43:15 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3


At 13:40 13-07-96 +0200, Lars wrote:
>I bought that Mojave 3 album a few days ago.  Hey!  It sucks!

You suck :)

Frank

...who's still waiting for 4AD first ever Norwegian signing.
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 11:50:17 -0700
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3


AGREED!!! It makes me so happy when I see that not everyone was deceived by
this (here we go again) Cowboy Junkies meet Leonard Cohen meet some Big Star
circa Third/Sister Lovers...thanks for reminding how bad Mojave 3 are (or
were--could you envision them doing a SECOND album???).  The implosion of
4ad slouches forward (I bought that Mojave 3 album a few days ago.  Hey!  It sucks!  Did I
>miss the denouncement of this album or something?
>
>The tunes range from poor sub-Badalamenti dross like "Love songs on
>the radio" Country Lite rejects like "Where is the love".  It's quite
>horrid.  Fascinating in its sheer awfulness.
>
>Ok, ok, that's a bit OTT.  Some of the tracks are relatively
>inoffensive -- "Pictures", for instance.  And "You're Beautiful" is a
>heavenly song.  Worth the price of the album -- since I got it on
>sale.
>
>Tape "You're Beautiful" off a friend and stay clear of the rest of
>this mess.
>
>Oy vey.
>
>--
>(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
>
>

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:43:24 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields


>> yes.  but i do have a question for you.  why is there a female singer on
>> the first two albums, and then a male singer on the next two?  i thought
>> the change was rather abrupt.  did she leave the band?
>> tony
>
>I was under the impression that the Magnetic Fields was basically a one
>man show (Stephen Merritt) and that the first two albums - The Wayward Bus
>and Distant Plastic Trees, now released together on one disc by Merge -
>featured Susan Anway as something of a guest vocalist.  There was some
>sort of odd irony with his blatantly gay lyrics being sung by a woman...

And what about the Sixths 'Wasps Nests' album? That's 15 (or 17, if you were
able to get hold of the 4x7" box) Merritt songs sung by as many artists such
as Mark Robinson, Barbara Manning, Lou Barlow, Mary Timony, Mac Superchunk,
Anna Domino, Robert Scott, Amelia Fletcher, Chris Knox, Stuart Moxham,
Georgia Hubley etc.
Out on London/Ffrr in the USA and on Factory Too in Europe. Certainly one of
1995's finest indie releases.

Frank

+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:59:32 -0500
From: mark&sarah (mrf546t@NIC.SMSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: magnetic fields


On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, a.e. nelson wrote:

> >
> >it's also the second best song on the last magnetic fields album, get
> >lost.  any other fans out there?
> >
> yes.  but i do have a question for you.  why is there a female singer on
> the first two albums, and then a male singer on the next two?  i thought
> the change was rather abrupt.  did she leave the band?
> tony

i don't know if the female singer is still involved, but the male singer
is stephin merritt, the "main" member.  he is one of my favorite male pop
singers.  speaking of abrupt changes, you should hear the sixths album
(if you haven't already): every song is done by a different singer, and
the music is all done by merritt.  one of the most brilliant, pure pop
joys i've ever heard.

BTW, has anyone heard the other merritt projects, gothic archies and
future bible heroes?  i've heard one song by the latter and i was not
impressed.  merritt was trying to "sing" and the overall production was
much cleaner (read: not as charming; boring).  we have a friend who is
into "goth" music who is convinced that gothic archies will be great, tho
he's never heard them...


mark


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:41:06 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3


is there is a big difference between saying an object (record/cd) sucks and a
person sucks?

does a smiley face substantially change the tone/meaning of "you suck?"

should anyone other than the artist  take hearing someone say their work sucks
as a personal attack (& do they read this list)?

(not rhetorical questions)

>  From: Frank Brinkhuis , on 7/13/96 5:43 PM:
>  At 13:40 13-07-96 +0200, Lars wrote:
>  >I bought that Mojave 3 album a few days ago.  Hey!  It sucks!
>
>  You suck :)
>
>  Frank
>
>  ...who's still waiting for 4AD first ever Norwegian signing.
>  +++++++++++++++++++
>  Frank Brinkhuis
>  frankbri@pi.net
>  +++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:06:19 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3


Frank Brinkhuis  writes:

> ...who's still waiting for 4AD first ever Norwegian signing.

Well, Norway was a Danish colony for a few centuries, so we can claim
Sort Sol as ourn.  Nyah nyah!  AD101!

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:02:44 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Intra-band relationships/expanding the cocteaus

              debate/clueless rekkid store folk

Chris Limb  writes:

> >>2: Re. the on-going "relationships" thread.  This being the 4AD list,
> >>I'm rather surprised that no-one's yet mentioned the (now historical)
> >>intra-band relationship between a certain drummer and a certain
> >>single girl...
> >
> >Chris and Miki?
>
> At last...

This isn't really that kind of list.  I had no idea that Chris and
Miki had a relationship -- I'm pretty sure it has never been mentioned
here.  For that kind of stuff I think you have to head on over to
subbacultcha instead.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:00:14 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3


"L.K. Grier"  writes:

> is there is a big difference between saying an object (record/cd) sucks and a
> person sucks?

Yes.

> does a smiley face substantially change the tone/meaning of "you suck?"

Depends on the context.  I took the "you suck" as a jokey answer to a
jokey "it sucks".

> should anyone other than the artist take hearing someone say their
> work sucks as a personal attack (& do they read this list)?

Not even the artist should take it as a personal attack.  For someone
else to take it personally is loony.

If someone dismisses a work that I think is brilliant, my reaction
depends on what relationship I have to the person who does the
dismissal.  If someone I respect says "it sucks", then I'm get a bit
miffed because I think they're missing out on something good.  If it's
someone I don't know, I don't care.  If it's someone I don't like, I
enjoy it.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:57:55 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: New good. Old bad. Baaaa!


lars writes:
>It might have something to do with growing familiar with a piece --
>loving it, knowing it backwards and forwards, being totally intimate
>with it -- and then a (virtual) copy of it comes along, and it all
>feels very *wrong*.  Like an impostor.  Like theft or plagiarism.

and
>Well then, why don't (most) groups evolve?  As was pointed out, groups
>normally stay in a rut or make *very* abrupt changes.  Very few groups
>stick to their horses and try to go deeper into what they are doing.

hey...I think you have something there. and you may have answered your own
question. see, if the audience can get that intimate and passionate about
a piece, then so can the artist who wrote it. it stands to reason then,
that he/she will be reluctant to make the changes to it. the artist then
will choose either to make a virtual copy of his first successful piece,
or try and make something completely different that cannot be compared to it


in the same way, a beginning musician has the choice of writing something in
an existing style that he knows people like (ex:classic rock) but he/she
have to except the fact that they will be compared to others of the same
style. (ex:he's good but U2 are better)
or, they can choose to make something different that wont fit into any
category and will be judged on it's own.

I know it may sound a bit cynical. I'm not saying that the artist is always
aware of this or makes this choice rationaly:
old - "people will almost certainly like it. but there is probably someone
       out there who does it better"
new - "people may or may not like it. but if they do, I'm was the first one
       to do it."

-naor-

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:45:44 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: His name is whot?


<< No copies of _stars on
 esp_.

 hmmm. >>



you know, if people are having so much trouble finding this, just call or fax
the source --------  4AD in the UK and mail order, that's why they set up the
servie isn't it?

although i did manage to buy the domestic, I faxed in my order on a Tuesday I
believe for the UK CD, LP, 45, and the EP.....by Thursday this week (that's
just 8 days) I had it in my mailbox.  The LP's artwork is very lovely by the
way~~~~

Personally, I feel better giving my money directly to 4AD insted of some 18
punk kid working at the local dive shop who thinks Rancid is God's
gift...........

~blu


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:01:41 -0400
From: Nathan Medema (ay642@freenet.carleton.ca)
Subject: Slowdive


The other day I caught Slowdive's "Alison" on the radio, loved it, did a
little digging, and found out it's on their "Souvlaki" album. Is the rest
of the album just as good? Or any of their other material for that matter?

Also, I'm wondering about HNIA's "Stars on E.S.P"...I haven't seen it
anywhere here in Ottawa, Canada yet, and I'm wondering if the US release date
is also the Canadian release date, or do I have to wait longer...:(

Lastly, is MBV's "Isn't Anything" as enjoyable as "Loveless"? I saw it
the other day but passed it over as a result of uncertainty.

Thanks a bajillion.

--
Nathan Medema (aka...well, Nathan Medema)       ay642@freenet.carleton.ca

          *** "If you're so special, why aren't you dead?" ***
                                -The Breeders, "I Just Wanna Get Along"

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:36:21 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Finding HNIA - cdnow


cdnow has it for $11.97 - http://cdnow.com   (215-654-8076)

they show it as on backorder - i sent an email requesting more info
(manager@cdnow.com).


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:38:43 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: New good. Old bad. Baaaa!


At 21:17 7/12/96 +0000, you wrote:
>I've been thinking some about that interesting question that was
>raised a few days ago -- why is change good?  As has been pointed out,
>in Olden Days that wasn't true.
>
>Because it really is true.  Well, at least for me.  I might find an
>album by a band to be total heaven -- a work of pure genious.  Then
>the next album comes out and sounds just like the first one, and I'll
>regard the second album as some sort of abhorrant monster.  (Well.
>You know.)
>
>It might have something to do with growing familiar with a piece --
>loving it, knowing it backwards and forwards, being totally intimate
>with it -- and then a (virtual) copy of it comes along, and it all
>feels very *wrong*.  Like an impostor.  Like theft or plagiarism.
>
>On the other hand, perhaps I just crave new things.  I'm reminded of a
>Laurie Anderson thing -- she's holding a press conference in Israel.
>The journalist asks her:  "Why is _new_ good?".  "Well, because it's
>interesting."  "Why is _interesting_ good?"  "Well, uhm, because it's,
>like, *interesting*."

Speaking of ruts and speaking of the devil...Laurie Anderson is one such
"artist" who basically has derived a "formula" all her own, but there isn't
much evolution along the way. I had to give her up after the second LP,
after her first seemed so revolutionary and brilliant. Oh, well...
>
>New is more interesting than old.  Many people don't feel that way,
>obviously.  They feel that new things are threatening or confusing or
>something.  Or perhaps they don't take note of their surroundings, so
>they don't really know whether something is new or old?  I have music
>going every waking moment of my life, it seems, and I am passionate
>about what I listen to.  Which is quite perverse.
>
>Well then, why don't (most) groups evolve?  As was pointed out, groups
>normally stay in a rut or make *very* abrupt changes.  Very few groups
>stick to their horses and try to go deeper into what they are doing.
>Stereolab, Dead Can Dance, His Name Is Alive and Coil are four groups
>that have evolved very naturally and are still doing their thaaang.

I gave Stereolab a try, even live...don't like em at all. But I know they
are well liked by lots of folks on this list & lots of my friends...so...to
each her/his own, as usual...

>The common denominator here is that these groups are all serious about
>what they do.  They don't make music to be Pop Stars;

If CT had wanted to be "Pop Stars" internationally, they would have given up
a long time ago, I think!

 they make music
>because making music is important to them.  Bands that are stuck in a
>rut probably don't (really) care about making music.  Does anybody
>really believe that Cocteau Twins' hearts were into making "Milk &
>Kisses"?

Yes! I do believe that...and from the critical acclaim, and rave reviews
from fans old & new who saw them on tour, there is definitely alot of heart
in all of it...hopefully, much more to come!

Carol Coney
>
>--
>  "Yes.  The journey through the human heart
>     would have to wait until some other time."
>

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 22:47:03 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: His name is whot?


At 22:15 7/12/96 +0000, you wrote:
>> "Uh, who?"
>>
>Someone wisely noted their run-ins with stores while asking for the new
>HNIA--
>
>>  "They broke up"
>>
>>  "The band's name is 'Alive'?  We don't have it."
>>
>>  "You mean the band 'Live'.  They don't have anything new."
>>
>>  "It's in our warehouse.  We should have it sometime next week.  Maybe."
>>
>>  "If we have anything it's called 'Mouth by Mouth'."
>
>I enunciate o.k., at least to me I do (and I suppose that's what's 'good' ).
>
>I step up to the counter Tuesday the 9th of July at an unnamed rekkid store
>in Ohio and I say to the qualified attendant very courteously and
>sssllloooowwly (not to be condescending, just very clear). "Hi.  Do-you-have
>the-new-HIS-Name-is-Alive?"
>
>the boy hears me, I believe, because he's giving me a ...
>
>His weight shifts from foot to foot, he scratches his left arm, looks side to
>side at nothing in particular, and a small amount of sweat forms in little
>beads on his forehead as he recalls in his head, the job description (upon
>being hired) that states EXPLICITLY in the company handbook about people like
>me (and situations such as these)--
>
>"If a customer asks for anything besides the new Rage against the
>machine...just                      stall.  a)The customer will take it upon
>her/himself to find it their damn selves  OR  b)They will assume that their
>music is entirely esoteric blaming their upbringing on the obscurity of their
>tastes, mutter something under their breath and quietly exit the door
>(**note** they are not violent just adamant about release dates, PAY NO
>ATTENTION!!  They don't give you any credit anyway.  Refer to them as
>cretins."
>
>I'm in the unclassified "C" section, the one who insists on getting an answer
>from the vendors mouth.  I don't care if it's wrong, but the sponteneity in
>the response in asking for let's say, Swallow's _Blow_ is priceless (try it.)
>
>
>It's weird...at this point I can almost hear their thoughts as said counter
>person's mental processes *spin* in a million different directions pointing
>mentally to everything from king tubby to chaka khan...it's amazing.  But
>amazing as it may seem as they go thru the "known artists" section inside
>their mind, they _never_ stumble across HNIA.  (I had a lady run into Yma
>Sumac once, but never HNIA)  I pride myself in my inpatience and at this
>point in the game I get somewhat irritated and  I think to myself
>"Good God, was I not *just* in here in '93 asking the same question??  !!
>aloha !! Are you kids on dope??!?"
>
>The attendant feeling my impatient stare opens his mouth.  It sticks a little
>at first and then parts, ready and able to convey the truth and the light to
>said new release.  The voice cracks, stumbles, regains itself and becomes
>clear to my ears, "ummm."
>
>You should have seen my face.  If I weren't so bi-polar It would've been easy
>to spot my emotional response, however my mind works in two's and one half of
>me nearly wets myself from laughter.  I think "all that time and the best he
>comes up with is sweet FA  Ummm. he-he-HA."  The other half is upset though.
> This side prevails in taking the initiative of trying to talk with the
>attendant and spews out (rather mockingly btw)  "ummm?  Ummm, you don't have
>it or Ummm, you haven't f**king clue one what I'm asking for?"
>
>"The latter, sir..."
>"That's what I thought."
>I stand there and think a lesson teaching is in order.  So, I grab his ear.
>I pull him around the bannister, ear firmly in hand (recalling my days of
>yesteryear when my mother did that on a frequent basis in department stores
>(which is why I write these real-life occurences now :)   But I digress.
>
>I have the attendant's attention now, I can sense the intensity of his
>motivation to learn.
>I run down the aisles with my "friend", nearly miss the "H" section, back up
>a few steps--scan--Hathaway, no, Hitchcock, no (alphabetical anyone?) His boy
>elroy, no, His Name is Alive, yes.  Yes. Yes. Yes.  I get my face right down
>next to the HNIA card bring down my companion and point, with vigor, while
>shaking my stern finger, "Listen to me.  This is where His Name is Alive is
>located!  This is where they will be from now on!  When there is a run of
>people looking for this wonderful band from Livonia, YOU *will* say with
>pride 'I know where they are!!'   o.k."
>"allright" .
>I let go of his ear and focus my attention on their HNIA section.  hmmm...3
>copies of mouth by mouth, a dirt eaters ep, a copy of Home is in your
>head...looks like, could it be YES! Yes.  yes?  No.  No copies of _stars on
>esp_.
>

Well, at least your record store has a HNIA section. The Blockbuster Music
in Snellville, GA doesn't have ANYTHING by them...all has to be special
ordered. Is this a problem with regional 4AD reps not supplying what stores
want/need? (By the way, the mgr. is very 4ad friendly...she loves Cocteau
Twins, which is how I met her, backstage in Atlanta...and she also loves DCD
and personally advanced me two 6th row center tix, cause she knew I was
gonna be out of town when the tix went on sale in Atlanta! So this woman
definitely needs to get all the 4ad releases...Pam, Blockbuster Music,
Snellville, GA 770-972-8393)

Carol Coney


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:10:34 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@u.washington.edu)
Subject: Re: Clan of Xymox bootleg?


> Whilst browsing a new Clan of Xymox page,

I didn't know about that one.  Will have to look.

> I found this CD listed:
>
> DARK PLEASURES
> CD ?

yep

> GER ? ?

maybe.  what does GEMA mean?

> Bootleg Contains
>   Subsequent Pleasures  (yes, I have the ugly US copy of this)

It was rereleased on CD a few years ago, along with the CoX demos.  Get
that instead of this if you're looking for the EP.  This cd (Dark
Pleasures) must have been released before the rerelease because the
quality on Dark Pleasures isn't quite perfect.  The quality on the
rerelease is though as it was taken from the original tapes.

>   Live Schlachthoff Bremen 29/08/87  (I'm dying to hear this)

It is very good.  The sound quality isn't quite that of an official
release but is a very high quality boot.  I had my doubts about this
because I figured Clan of Xymox would have to depend too much on keyboards
and such to be very impressive live.  Keyboards are indeed present, but
the guitar and bass carry the songs and avoid them from sounding
prerecorded or presequenced (whatever.)  the live stuff takes up about 45
minutes of the cd.  songs they played are michelle, stumble and fall,
louise, 7th time, stranger, moscovite musquito, a day, and medusa.

>   Stranger (Razormaid-Remix)         (haven't heard it) >

it's alright.  sounds like someone messing around in soundedit.  The
original (or maybe the remix on 4ad) is better.

> Does anyone have this CD?

yes, but i won't sell it either.

> course. He did tell me that it had an H.R. Geiger cover... so there's
> hope that it is out there.

um, it's a skull in clamps.

> If any of you know where I can pick this up, or would like to post a
> review, that would be great.

I got mine through cdnow last summer before they stopped selling bootlegs.
I've never seen it anywhere else.  Sorry.

aaron


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:38:00 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Dead Can Dance in Philly


I'm really surprised that only two people on this list have written
in about the DCD concert that they saw this week.  Are there really
that few people who saw them this past week.  With the amount of
album reviews etc in the past, I thought the list would have been
overwhelmed by reviews.

So...I'll give mine.  I saw them on Wednesday at the Keswick in
Glenside (near Phila).  We parked behind the theatre and saw their
tour buses (which is always kind of exciting to me).  Usually tour
buses have those tacky paintings on the side, but DCD had one solid
blue and one brown bus.  We went inside and found our seats.  It has
always been my dream to be in the first row, center to see DCD, and
there I was - front and center!!!!!!!  I was also happy to see that
they has sold out the theater (which means they'll probably come back
the next time).

The first thing that struck me was that about 3/4 of the musicians on
stage had toured with Lisa Gerrard this past year:  the running in
place drummer, the bass player, the synth player, the guitar/sytar
player (is that Robert Perry?) and the multiple bongo player.  I
guess I should have bought the program and I could have given names.
The stage was simple with a large sheet behind them with colored
lights cast on it. There really didn't seem like too much space for
any other props because all their instruments filled the stage.

Lisa looked radiant in her usual white dress and her braided hair.
What really made her so lovely was a turqoise cape that was draped
around her.  Brenden came out after the first song and I was
surprised to see he had shaved his beard.

In regards to the music, it was incredible!  The percussion was so
strong as well as were Lisa's and Brenden's voices.  They were all
energetic and seemed to really enjoy it.  It was also neat to see the
exchange of smiles between the Lisa and Brenden and the other
musicians.  I don't have a play list for you because I can never keep
the titles straight with their songs.  I do know that they played
mostly off of their last two albums and a few off of Into the
Labrynth.  They played for over 1 1/2 hours straight and then played
two encores.  The last song of the show touched me the most because
the accompanying musicians left the stage, and only Lisa and Brenden
came out and stepped up to the podium.  Brenden played Lisa's
instrument and Lisa stood close beside him with her one arm on the
podium and sang so sweetly.  Unity is the only word I can think of to
describe it.

I was absoluted enchanted with the evening!

Holly


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:35:40 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive flexi


In a message dated 96-07-13 04:00:39 EDT, you write:

<< it *is* available at tower. not sure how their distribution works,
 though. it may take a while to actually get into stores. since you're in
 detroit, it's also available at the record collector. >>


...i've also been to the record collector....and looked for it....and didn't
see it there either.


i'll look again as i'm making another trip there monday, if all else fails
then...it looks as if mail ordering is the only route left open.

god i hate us distribution....  is it any better in the uk? or australia?
 just wondering.

~blu


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