Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:52:23 +0600
Jul 1996 20:29:10 -0700
Thanks for the discography Brant, I only have one thing to add.
> US LP Columbia CK 40545
> CD??? (was one ever released?)
Yep! Same cat. number and track order as US LP. It took me years to track down
the CD (hey, my turntable spins too fast!) but finally did find it for $8.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:20:17 +0600
Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:24:44 -0400
> oh, for those of u wanting to know where i read about
> Lolla, DCD and CT, check this month's
> Alternative Press (the one with the Sex Pistols
> on the cover).
> they also have a "Low profile" article
> on cz's fave lovesliescrushing, and an article
> on Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn.
Um, i believe that's someone else's fave (nothing against them though).
Other thislisty AP tidbits (i.e., distilling it to it's essence so that you
don't need to buy the mag)
* new releases from Eden and Love Spirals Downwards
* Harold Budd / Hector Zazou new release: remixes from Glyph! Does anyone know
*snippet on RHP new album (nothing we don't already know)
*Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn & Micheal Brook are working on another album containing
remixes of songs on Night Song!!
*Origins of Cool: Pet Sounds/Beach Boys including a paragraph quotation from
Warren (HNIA) and one from Tim Gane (Stereolab).
*... and for you C'est La Mort-ophiles they give Tel Basta "the finger" and
Eleven Shadows "a high five." (lame rating system!)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:02:21 -0400
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:05:55 +0100
And end up deleting more messages unread than I usually do on the Fall
list (another great band going for more than 15 years with basically
the same blueprint). Dredged from the sludge for responses:
einexile the meek
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:31:29 +0300
On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, fnord prefect wrote:
> lets play what do CT and DCD have in common:
> 2)Started out post-punk goth
> 3)female vocalists both sing private gobbeldygook language
> 5)sadness (at least in pre-milk and kisses CT)
> 6)concern with expressing hopelessly complex states of
> emotion without using words.
> 7)often copied, never duplicated
> 8)singer used to be romantically involved with male
> counterpart, now not, and still amicable to eachother
> 9)liz and lisa. sounds the same
> 10)liz and lisa both are moms now.
> 11)for some reason, every CT fan i know is also into CT,
> and vice-a-versa
> 12)CT were once the house band of 4ad. now DCD are
I Absolutely agree with everything you have pointed out. Except for
item number 12. I am a "fan" of both groups, however i cannot make
that generalisation -- just take a look at the flame wars we've been
having here. I know people who love one group and despise the other.
Umur Cy Celikyay
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:25:54 +0200
>Does anyone hold a list of Ivo remixes made outside of 4ad ?
No list but I've got this 12" from Peter Murphy (1985), "Final Solution"
(Third and Final mix) remixed by Ivo and John Fryer. Ivo also did the
the Netherlands, July 9, 1996
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:59:32 +-200
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:50:02 -0400
On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Jason Marc Morehead wrote:
> i just got back from the cornerstone festival and i had the pleasure
> of seeing velour 100 in concert.
hey, 2 questions:
1) cornerstone festival?
2) cornerstone festival?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:19:09 -0400
> Does Warren steal your caps loc key? It seems like all the fanatical HNIA
> don't have one...
...hmmm...so that's what is supposed to be there...i thought it was a pinky
does anyone care to comment on the hnia 'my canada' flexi from warped
I haven't sent in my money to susan yet, but would like to know where they're
sitting with this one (hnia that is :)
wondering why there are no midnight _stars on esp_ madness sales in ohio,
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:20:47 -0400
from addicted to noise;
Addicted to Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: In his continuing
attempt to assemble the most eclectic (some might say least
commercial) label on the planet, American honcho Rick Rubin recently
signed Pakistani singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan to a four record deal.
The suddenly hip singer of Qawwali devotional music, who slipped out
150 albums while nobody was looking, has his first American Recordings
album in the can already. "Holy Prophet," a collection of traditional
music, will be released in September. Plans call for Rubin to record
another traditional record with Khan while he is in the U.S. on tour,
as well as an album of (gulp) duets with an as-yet-unnamed gallery of
alternative artists. After all, it was Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's duet
with Eddie Vedder for the Dead Man Walking soundtrack that got him all
the attention. Sources also hinted that some "very special guests"
might turn up at some of the dates on Khan's North American tour. We
assume this doesn't include the recently washed-up-on-shore fauxfolkie
Donovan who will open the first six dates and whose teaming
with Khan is an inspired one because, according to an American press
release, "both of these seasoned musicians are renowned for their
pursuit of greater spirituality, high consciousness and uniquely great
music." Oh, and we thought "Mellow Yellow" was just about getting
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:09:01 -0400
If anyone wants tickets to the Dead Can Dance show in Dallas (8th row)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:10:36 -0400
>>>> other people thought they were the shittiest thing 4AD >>>>had been
associated with (that was in the days before >>>>Scheer, of course).
How quickly we forget Spirea X
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:10:24 -0400
Things to try at home:
Dirty & Divine-Moonshake: More amphetamine jazz loops.
Subliminal Sandwich-Meat Beat Manifesto- More ambient/dub. And done well.
Ani Defranco-Dilate-Alanaise (sp?) should be licking her Docs.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:30:03 +0200
Sister Ray in London is having a Fax sale (nothing dramatic -- 9.99
GBP per cd). I haven't ever heard any Fax stuff, so I wonder which
releases are worth having. Could some kind soul (ie., e) give a list
of what releases are essential?
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
firstname.lastname@example.org * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:23:15 -0500
> hey, 2 questions:
> 1) cornerstone festival?
> 2) cornerstone festival?
> what's that?
it's a Christian music festival down in bushnell, illinois.
basically, it's 4 days of music from every genre imaginable, along
with talks and seminars on a wide range of subjects. i had a really
good time and got to see some really awesome concerts.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:29:50 PDT
> ..Sources also hinted that some "very special guests"
> might turn up at some of the dates on Khan's North American tour..
haven't seen him myself but I hear he get's all frentic and wild
in an on stage trance of some sort.
waking up on the wrong side of 40 degrees centigrate.
ps. to dan - what's the story changing your callsign every 5 minutes?
you're making me dizzy, sattle down man. ;)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:05:49 -0400
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Baron Lane wrote:
> Things to try at home:
> Dirty & Divine-Moonshake: More amphetamine jazz loops.
> Subliminal Sandwich-Meat Beat Manifesto- More ambient/dub. And done well.
> Ani Defranco-Dilate-Alanaise (sp?) should be licking her Docs.
the new meatbeat is the GOODS! especially disc 2.
and how phat that they are gonna be at perry farrel's
indian reservation based enit festival in autumn!
along with (in case you haven't heard about this):
love and rockets
porno for pyros
erm...nancy sinatra (no shit)
that woman who used to sing in Dee-Lite
and various djays
if anyone out there in 4ad land has any more info
on this thing, or has a computer with some balls
and can view the video clips on the warner bros.
pfp site, please either post it to the list
(hey, l&r used to be bauhaus which used to be 4ad...)
or to me personally.
thanks, and excuse the diversion
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:21:09 GMT
At 05:23 7/8/96 +0000, you wrote:
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:14:07 GMT
At 20:52 7/8/96 +0000, you wrote:
>The Cocteau Twins list is down (after everyone received several hundred
>message reject notices) so I thought I'd try here.
>The latest release date for the Violaine singles was today, July 8th. Can
>anyone in the UK verify that they actually were released?
I too am very interested in Violaine singles...my fave track on Otherness &
M & K. Any info would be most appreciated!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:54:28 GMT
At 21:42 7/8/96 +0000, you wrote:
>A few weeks ago I wanted to see Scheer in Amsterdam: cancelled, then the
>Dead Can Dance show: cancelled. This week I wanted to see The Amps in
>What the hell is wrong with those 4AD artists?
>Oh, and last weeks Mazzy Star concert in Amsterdam: cancelled!
>So four-and-a-half of the five concerts I wanted to see last month were
>cancelled (the fifth one was the second Dead Can Dance show in Amsterdam;
>cancelled after one hour). I think I'm going to become a Brian Adams/Tina
>Turner/Toto/Bon Jovi fan... because they're touring all the time, every
>year and always perform. (but their music makes me sick so I won't be able
>the Netherlands, July 8, 1996
Now THAT's funny! (Not the cancellations...you have my sympathy...but what
you said about becoming a fan of those other "artists" & getting sick
yourself if you go to see em!)
I'm hoping DCD will play here in Atlanta in August, but as they will be on
the road in the states for a month by that time, my hopes are not that high,
I must sadly admit (I am hopeful enough to have already bought my tix,
however...Lisa, drink alot of water & lemon juice...and don't talk to fans
too much backstage...conserve that lovely voice!)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:57:35 +0930
On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Joseph Burns wrote:
> Why do we have to hash this personal name calling out in public?
> If the debate is relavant to the list, besides who has the biggest ego
> (which seems to be a dead heat amongst most 4ad-heads), then fine....
> but who wants to read all this vitriol that is just name calling?
Couldn't agree more ... what is the point ?
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:46:20 -0400
Now what was the point made referring to Ani Difranco's Dilate?
I am a fan of Ani, and its about time that she gets her moment in
the spotlight... After 7 Albums, and a compilation album, all on her own
record label, which she started at 18, her indi status is finally working
for her on a cult level...She is still getting hounded by the mega-labels
to sign on for greater exposure, and she keeps saying that she's doing all
of this on her own. Sure she'll get greater exposure, radio airplay, etc.
But in the other day's LA Times, there was an article stating that Ani
gets the highest royalties per album than any other artist (she gets a
little more than 4 bucks, Hootie gets around 2 bucks, and so does Michael
Jackson) Ani does everything herself - From writing/composing the songs,
to artwork, to packaging, to publicity. She gets the final word.
Anyway... has anyone heard 'Dilate'? I think its pretty good....
and hopefully will get greater recognition by the end of the year. Anyone
out there seen her live? Now that's an experience unto itself... A
different kind of religious experience. I saw Lisa Gerrard at Town Hall
last October - that was a religious experience - tranquil-like. WOW!
(and I hope to catch DCD at City Center in a few weeks - I still have to
call for ticket info!) Ani Difranco's more like pure
sweet-rage-feminist-pop-groove-funk. I can't think of words to discribe
it. People were saying that DCD/Lisa Gerrard's music is meant to be heard
live... The same goes with Ani. Her studio albums don't quite capture her
live. But rumor has it, that Ani is currently mixing a live album!!!
Just out of curiosity, anyone out there October Project fans?
Anyway, sorry about the rambling...
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:57:36 -0400
seems that 'Stars on ESP' didnt come out today aferall.
which has me using unsavoury language in that black space
and in that one above this line to describe 4AD's swell
public relations/promotions/webpresence people. big high
five to all of you. i-n-f-o-r-m-a-t-i-o-n ? check it out
and so useful when trustworthy. it might even make it easier
to sell records, find new listeners, and keep the loyal ones
loyal. shoulda known better, and shoulda spent twice as much
on the import. perhaps that's their overall plan??
have fun waiting for those this rimy river ltd. editons books, too.
whose online moniker is brought to you in part by Illuminatus!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:07:20 +0000
> seems that 'Stars on ESP' didnt come out today aferall.
strange. i was able to get a copy in minneapolis on saturday. i wonder why?
i was more than a little surprised to find it when i did. was anyone else
other than promo/radio station people and those in the u.k. able to find it
shift key, schmift key.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:04:56 -0700
All the recent discussion invovling Caroline Crawley and co. inspired me
to post this little story.
Been dating a new girl, she's kind of cool, but musical tastes are pretty
different. She's not into music much but enjoys country. Hmmm... Anyways,
I was helping her move last week and was unloading stuff from her car. I
came across two CDs, one being some top 40 artist I can't recall, the
other CD being Century Flower by Shelleyan Orphan. I was very confused
at finding this CD in her car and was unable to speak for several
minutes. She then explained that a friend had given it to her and she
didn't care for it much, but offered it to me! Yay! I had always been
meaning to buy it but free is so much better.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:09:39 +0000
>On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, C.K. Coney wrote:
>> overwhelming mailbox load.
>> However, I would like to hear from any fans of His Name Is Alive (either
>> e-mailed to me privately or posted to the group) re: the sound of the band,
>> the members, etc. I must admit seeing the name I think it would be a
>> Christian band...am I right or wrong about this? Not that I have anything
>> against Christians, per se, but I generally don't go to concerts by bands
>> working within that genre.
> I've not found any overt references to any sort of organized
> religion in any hnia product to date. their (former?) drummer
> has a record out on a christian label, and i know that warren
> went to catholic skool... the music is fantastically concerned
> with the spirt and the spiritual. but in a metaphysical rather
> than dogmatic or orthadox sense.
trey hasn't quit the band has he? also who are the singers on the new
album. i would have liked a musician listing in the cd booklet, oh well.
what christian label? tooth and nail? really?
>> His Name Is Alive will be playing in Atlanta in August, and I'm wondering
>> should I re-arrange some travel plans (do-able at this date) to stick around
>> to see this band.
> their live performances have been in my opinion nothing like
> the studio records. as a knee-jerk hnia fanatic i of course
> implore you to drop everything to see them. but if i had to
> choose between hnia on headphones in the dark or hnia live
> onstage, i would be in the dark. warren's studio abilities are
> legendary. fascinating. trippy.
>> I like Cocteau Twins & DCD, and recently found Scheer & Mojave 3 (oft
>> mentioned in this list) in used CD bins & like em quite a bit. So am curious
>> about His Name etc.
> for some reason hnia are always compared to cocteautwins, this
> maybe because there's nothing else that bears the comparison.
> both use studio goodies for supernatural effects, both feature
> godlike female singing, both seem custom made for the drug
> experience.... but they arent at all alike in overall sound.
> hnia have a zillion different sounds, the cocteaus (especially
> now) seem to have only one...
> hnia are top five of all time for me. they occupy favored
> positions in the cd-towers which house my collection, being
> neighbours with dcd, cocteaus, peter murphy, love and rockets,
> this mortal coil...
> if you had to start with one cd by them, get home is in your head.
> or, if you use lsd, start with livonia
> you cant live here....
> dan k
> who knew them when they were fishcats
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:19:09 -0400
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 04:37:38 GMT
Hello! Here are a few mostly thislisty cds I'd love to sell:
Throwing Muses Bright Yellow Gun (BAD 4018 [I think]) $6
The Veldt Afrodisiac $6
Cranes Beautiful Friend (1-tr. promo w/photo of band on
Lush Black Spring (BAD 1014) $7
My Bloody Valentine Isn't Anything (US) $7
All items are postage paid...email me privately for tracklistings
or whatever. Thanks!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:32:21 CST
First and foremost, my apologies for not posting this privately to the
interested party, but I didn't save their original post that got me started
thinking about this.
In reference to the Shelleyan Orphan cover of a VU song, it does exist, and as
far as I know, is still available. They have a track on Heaven and Hell
Volume 2: A Tribute to the Velevet Underground (there are 3 volumes). Last
time I checked (which was recently), it was available on CD from Parasol
records (they are online), for the lofty sum of US$23.50 + shipping.
Now you know.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:19:19 -0700
Could someone from Hong Kong on this list please
find out the address and phone number of Cinepoly
for me? All I have is an email address from their
web site and they're not replying to me.
And for that matter, does anyone have the UK address/phone/fax
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:45:47 -0700
but, if she's into country music (blech), then you have the perfect
opportunity to sway her...force some tarnation (not my thing, but...), amc,
sunshine club (my current new favorite record), ida, movaje (double blech),
rhp, belly, heidi berry etc on her...she'll love you even more!
rick stone, luv doktor
>All the recent discussion invovling Caroline Crawley and co. inspired me
>to post this little story.
>Been dating a new girl, she's kind of cool, but musical tastes are pretty
>different. She's not into music much but enjoys country. Hmmm... Anyways,
>I was helping her move last week and was unloading stuff from her car. I
>came across two CDs, one being some top 40 artist I can't recall, the
>other CD being Century Flower by Shelleyan Orphan. I was very confused
>at finding this CD in her car and was unable to speak for several
>minutes. She then explained that a friend had given it to her and she
>didn't care for it much, but offered it to me! Yay! I had always been
>meaning to buy it but free is so much better.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:48:13 -0700
>>Does anyone hold a list of Ivo remixes made outside of 4ad ?
He remixed "Cloudless" by Cranes, for one.
t h e m y s t e r y p a r a d e
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:51:31 GMT
At 03:14 PM 7/9/96 GMT, you wrote:
>At 20:52 7/8/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>The Cocteau Twins list is down (after everyone received several hundred
>>message reject notices) so I thought I'd try here.
>>The latest release date for the Violaine singles was today, July 8th. Can
>>anyone in the UK verify that they actually were released?
>I too am very interested in Violaine singles...my fave track on Otherness &
>M & K. Any info would be most appreciated!
[Yes, the single was out today.
CD1 is violane, circling girl & alice.
CD 2 is violane, smile (new song) & tranquil eye ( Green/Faye wong
collaboration, but different to album version)]
>I have to apologize-the track "Tranquil Eye" is not "Green" but is the
other track on Impetuous (don't know the name as I can't read Chinese). It
is different to the LP version, I think. It is, of course, excellent.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:49:31 -0700
I was wondering if anyone has heard anything new or knows what the band
Breathless (Dominic Appleton, vocals - TMC) has been up to?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:14:17 -0400
yeah, guess I'll have to cope with my vinyl copy of "Stars on ESP" for awhile
Went around to 5 places looking for it. Here are some of my favorite
"They broke up"
"The band's name is 'Alive'? We don't have it."
"You mean the band 'Live'. They don't have anything new."
"It's in our warehouse. We should have it sometime next week. Maybe."
"If we have anything it's called 'Mouth by Mouth'."
Anyone else have difficulty getting their point across?
Of course, I had more fun last August trying to explain to Planet Music that
Lisa Gerrard's album was NOT in fact called "The Mirror Fool", which they
INSISTED was correct.
I'm going to go listen to Harry Connick Jr., who's new album EVERYONE had...
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:41:20 -0700
For all those who don't know Tim Friese-Green Produced
Cathrene Wheel's "Ferment" and Lush's "Sweetness and Light" which are
probably my most favorite. I just curious of what else he has done in
Anyone notice that the "alternative" (the stuff they play
on 120 minutes, alternative radio) was much better 6 years ago and the
stuff they play now kinda blows? My cd collection needs more indy
stuff! I think I am begining to realize why everyone (with a clue)
hates the mainstream.
Have the swirlies ever made any videos? Are the early
Shallow albums reminisant of 3d stereo trouble? What does Sylvania
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:24:28 -0700
i got staars on esp today, as soon as i could get my way to ann
arbor. 1st off, 15.99$???? what the hell?
the album is great!!! this is the best thing i have heard since
hiiyh. it sounds a lot like livonia mixed with home.
there seems to be a little bit of a blues/country influence beggining to
shine through. this is only in keeping with hnia 's inability to
be(or, more likely still, thier ability NOT to be) pigeon-holed.
or in the background(good for baking cookies to)
who is the male voices? is there more tahn one or is that a recording
***'s on esp
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:33:06 GMT
>trey hasn't quit the band has he? also who are the singers on the new
>album. i would have liked a musician listing in the cd booklet, oh
According to the 4AD press release Stars on ESP is 'performed in the main
by Warren Defever (guitar), Karin Oliver (vocals) and Trey Many (drums).
All written by Warren except 3 and 5 co-written with Erica Hoffman, 8 and
9 with Matthew Smith, 13 with Mark Kozelek of Red House Painters, 14
written by Trey Many. Tracks 2, 10 and 15 are variations on a theme of
Woody Guthrie's 'This World is not my Home'. 'Last One' is a gospel
version performed by the ESP Family and a hand-picked choir...'
Apologies if this info has already been posted to the list.
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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:43:55 -0400
Creig Jacobson wrote:
> yeah, guess I'll have to cope with my vinyl copy of "Stars on ESP" for awhile
Aside from the blatant stupidity of the mentioned record store
employees, one of the reasons that the HNIA cd is not being found
everywhere is because ADA is handling the distribution for this 4ad
title. Furthermore, some stores that do order from ada are getting
their orders late due to some sort of corporate excuse regarding the
rush before the 4th of July. For myself, being 2 day UPS ground time
away and doing my order last Mon. and still not seeing it makes we
wonder what else is going on.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:49:30 CST
In reference to the new His Name is Alive...
>Went around to 5 places looking for it. Here are some of my favorite
>"They broke up"
>"The band's name is 'Alive'? We don't have it."
>"You mean the band 'Live'. They don't have anything new."
>"It's in our warehouse. We should have it sometime next week. Maybe."
>"If we have anything it's called 'Mouth by Mouth'."
>Anyone else have difficulty getting their point across?
Yes! Every single store I called acted like I was speaking another language. I
had to spell the name out for one stupid girl. She then cheerfully replied,
that indeed, it was out today. "Yes," I told her, "that's why I'm calling."
Of course nobody had it (though the helpful chap at Streetside records informed
me that they got the promo copy today--big help). Add me to the list of
frustrated 4AD fans.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:25:04 -0400
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:06:37 -0700
Automatic digest processor wrote:
> There are 15 messages totalling 383 lines in this issue.
> Topics of the day:
> 1. M2O'H (2)
> 2. TarantuBLAH (2)
> 3. ouch! and my fax page
> 4. Autechre
> 5. Lovelife
> 6. M/A/R/R/S (4)
> 7. Kieslowski + Preiner's Music
> 8. Lovelife: 4AD toy with us yet...
> 9. somewhat-thislisty TV appearances
> 10. cidytalk
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:32:04 -0600
> From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
> Subject: M2O'H
> Always happy to answer a question about Mary Margaret O'Hara. As far as I
> know, all she's released is the aforementioned "Miss America" (which I
> agree is brilliant) and a Christmas single a couple of years ago (I've
> never seen or heard it). I heard some scuttlebut that she's recorded
> stuff, but her label has not been happy with it. Evidently, she's been
> fighting to get the stuff back from them, but to no avail. Take this with
> the requisite grain of salt though...I have no inside information.
> By the way, has anyone heard anything more about a new Blue Nile LP?
> -- Jeff
> Jeffrey T. Gayton
> University of Wisconsin, Madison
> 110 North Hall
> 1050 Bascom Mall
> Madison, WI 53706
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:56:04 -0800
> From: einexile the meek
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:05:51 -0700
Gee, I *like* "Aion", but I have to agree with much of what eine'xile said
about "Spiritchaser": it's lame, doesn't go anywhere, never even gets near
"Milk & Kisses" (which I'm also not raving about), and in parts sounds
tackier than a bad Bel Canto song.
I've never been wild about Perry, and now have to wonder how this album
came about... what happened to the solo work he was doing? Did it turn
Take "Song of the Stars" as an example. The percussion works well enough,
and I for one don't mind the faux birds, but the synthey guitarish loops
laid over it all just make me cringe. Have I become so prejudiced about
Perry that I'm now inclined to criticize his pronounciation of a language
I know nothing about? I'm not sure, but while Gerrard sounds wonderful
(and convincing), Perry's interpretation falls flat for me.
I remember frowning when I picked it up in the store and saw the sleeve.
For those who haven't bought the album yet, I'd recommend taking a cue
from the cover art: what you see is what you get.
Anyone wanna trade for a copy of The Mirror Pool?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 19:27:00 -0400
>>For all those who don't know Tim Friese-Green Produced
>>Cathrene Wheel's "Ferment" and Lush's "Sweetness and Light" >>which are
probably my most favorite. I just curious of what >>else he has done in the
Well I think last I heard he helped Nick Cave write a song for the Batman
If you can get by the dreadful U2 wannabee New Order drivel on the disc.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:05:56 BST
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:07:04 -0400
"I was wondering if anyone has heard anything new or knows what the band
Breathless (Dominic Appleton, vocals - TMC) has been up to?"
supposedly breathless will have a new album in a few months. they have had
some personal problems i hear but are ready to dive in again. this is from an
article i read a few months ago when after the compilation cd came out
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:46:26 -0400
Does any of you have the confirmated tour of Cure?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:36:27 -0400
> Why do we have to hash this personal name calling out in public?
> If the debate is relavant to the list, besides who has the biggest ego
> (which seems to be a dead heat amongst most 4ad-heads), then fine....
> but who wants to read all this vitriol that is just name calling?
I second Joseph.
Why do we have to hash that shit between those people,
To them: don't you think is better to continue your discussions by
personal messages instead of make it public?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:55:48 -0400
Has any of you heard this ethereal-noise band?
I know it was the group of Christian Saville from Slowdive, but
only have a 7" single with 2 songs: Breathe/Sleep. But God i just
LOVE those songs!!
So is there anything else by Eternal?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:14:11 -0400
How do receive the digest vesion of this lovely/infuriating discussion?
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:50:48 -0500
Hey i wanna join in the fun! Too bad nobody told me when orbital was
playing =( Opus 3's "It's a Fine Day" is loaded with vocal samples,
but it ain't tracey thorne. It's ms. opus herself, spliced to bits.
Okay, i'm just makin' it up, but i'm not the only person who hears
edit points all over the song.
Mary Margaret O'Hara wrote a funky song for Holly Cole's "Don't Smoke
in Bed" album.
Last i heard of Breathless was the Heartburst compilation cd,
which was supposed to be an introduction for the uninitiated
to prepare for the new album. A couple years later, where is
it? Mebbe i missed it when i was living in the swamps?
Liz Fraser's "Song to the Siren" is lovely, but still doesn't beat
the whole TMC "original versions" cd.
I got a ticket to DCD this month, but i don't think i'm goin. Not
worth the vacation days to me, after Spiritchaser.
Saw Come last night. The whole time i was scared Thalia'd commit
suicide in the morning. Kinda puts a damper on a great night of
music eh? They played hnia "Livonia" over the p.a. between bands,
really cleared the crowd out. I was impressed.
Would internetters really listen to compressed over-the-modem digital
radio rather than going to the record store to hear new stuff?
If y'all are gonna flamewar, try to cut out the big quotes of elvia,
okay? Kinda defeats the purpose of a killfile. However, the
"friends of e" line could be a reference to a dance tune from
'91 or so by "friends of carlotta", or "f.o.c.", with their
super-catchy song, "fingerfoc" (or somesuch).
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:12:25 GMT
Thank you everyone who e-mailed me personally or posted to this list re: His
Name Is Alive. Based on glowing, gushing ravings I bought Livonia today, and
it is absolutely PHENOMENAL (excuse me for shouting...but I think I had a
religious experience.) I will acquire the rest when I have the ducats...I
think I've spent over $150 on CD's in 2 months, and I'm a tad over budget,
Now I sure hope the rumor is true that they will be in Atlanta in
August...I'd love to see them work their musical chemistry live.
So is the CD everyone's talking about "Stars on ESP" released under the HNIA
name, or is it another, related project under another name? And do you all
love it as much as all their other stuff?
Again...thanks for all the e-mail. You made my day...it's great to find new,
truly creative work amidst so much mediocre crap out there (but not on THIS
P.S. Folks looking for the next "undiscovered" thislisty band may want to
check out "The Changelings"
(www.mindspring.com~mkinsey/changelings/home.html) from Atlanta and "Squonk
Opera" (http://squonkopera.com/) from Pittsburgh.
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:28:23 -0400
Yes, some people haven't found it yet and SOME people were able to buy it
this past weekend...4 days early!
What's up, 4AD?