4ad-l Mail for 07-03-1996

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Subject: EPS show
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:14:21 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Let's just rename this the DCD List and be done with it
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:06:49 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Re: Shallow/ Swallow
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:39:35 -0400
From: Bernal Koehrsen (BKoehrsen@AOL.COM)
Subject: various 4AD and non-
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:08:34 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: shallow
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:38:10 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: LINDA PERRY - Solo album (Lisa Germano guesting)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:52:37 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: various 4AD and non-
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:57:49 +-200
From: Jon Drahn[SMTP:pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM]
Subject: Re: shallow
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:23:04 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: more non4ad than you'll ever be:
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:46:17 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Edward Barton
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:49:52 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:40:51 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: shallow
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:05:29 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: var 4AD and NON: Area
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:13:00 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - NYC date
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:53:57 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: It's a Thorne Day.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:00:04 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 = Sadcore?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:17:44 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:05:26 +-200
From: Barry A. Mathews[SMTP:Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET]
Subject: more non4ad than you'll ever be? not me sista
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:24:13 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: online database
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:49:05 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: COCTEAUS KC DISASTER
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:45 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Kodo and Ondekoza
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:59 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Booth & The Bad Angel
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:54:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: "Wonderwall" covered!
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:02:54 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Booth & the Bad Angel
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:42:39 -0400
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: var 4AD and NON: Area
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:56:32 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: "Wonderwall" covered!
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:05:43 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: RAPOON and HNIA
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:15:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Orbital/Halcyon
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:12:34 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 = Sadcore?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:43:52 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: River Rimy This Can Be The Month!
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:08:43 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:34:41 -0700
From: parker (hacsc277@DEWEY.CSUN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:45:25 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)

Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:14:21 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: EPS show


No, it's not Encapsulated Postscript, but Eight Page Story!
Lest you forget, they are playing at Genghis Cohen Cantina
on Fairfax near Melrose tonight (Wednesday) at 10pm.
The cover is a painful $7, or $3 with a flyer, and I would think
this very message would count as one. It's going to be an
unplugged set this time, and as I've said before, the music is
poppy Sundays-ish, Cocteaus-ish, and very much thislisty. In
an act of extreme optimism I even invited Ivo, fellow
beautiful voices addict that he is.

Another band of note is playing this Saturday at Un-Urban
which is almost right next to the Alligator Lounge on Pico
in Santa Monica. Known as The Floating House, they're an
atmospheric guitar/female vocals duo. A few people have
compared the vocals to Joan Baez (who?-- just kidding, although
I really don't have a good idea what she sounds like). To me
a more obvious reference is Annie Haslam from Renaissance
(and when are *they* going to jump on the reunion tour bandwagon?)

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:06:49 -0700
From: "L.K. Grier" (lkg@phantom.com)
Subject: Re: Let's just rename this the DCD List and be done with it


yes! if this is the japanese troupe who lives on an island where their lives
are devoted to drumming...i saw a tv piece about them quite a while ago -
incredible!

>  From: naor , on 6/30/96 8:53 PM:
>  on sun 30 jun owen o'flahenty wrote:
>  >...There is nothing more powerful than organised percussion, ...
>  >... but only *when performed live.* ..
>
>  one word springs to mind KODO
>
>  > ...a group of three drummers.. who were pounding out a thundering tribal
>  >beat.  Nothing more.
>
>  make it a group of thirty drummers, pounding a sometimes thundering
>  sometimes featherlight beat, on drums ranging in size from a large plate
>  to a small elephant. KODO .beats, rhythms and bars you never imagined
>  possible are performed with machine like accuracy, and a very human like
>  emotion. KODO. the show that will make your body tremble like a leaf,
>  while easing your soul to rest. and then, the other way round. KODO
>  you can see it. you can hear it. you can FEEL it. but you sure as hell
>  can NOT reproduce it. not with today's technology anyway. KODO
>  one more time, all together now
>                      KODO
>                   sound of the drum
>                        beat of the heart
>
>
>         yeah
>
>
>
>


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:39:35 -0400
From: Bernal Koehrsen (BKoehrsen@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Shallow/ Swallow


Shallow is a great band from here in the Mid-West (Kansas City,Mo). They are
very this-listy And are highly recomended. Swallow is much more mellow and
airy while Shallow is more pop (see Cranes). And they happen to be a swell
bunch of people too. I'd also like to say sorry for Kansas City's treatment
of the Cocteau Twins, and stiil we all wonder how come we don't see as many
alternative (mainly 4AD and such) come through.
                                  Any other Cocteau Twins KC/Lawerence Fans?
                                  drop me a line :)  BKoehrsen@aol.com

"And you think you undersatnd one, because one and one make two, but you must
also understand and...."

Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:08:34 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: various 4AD and non-


Greetings from Lurkersville!!!

Well, I finally raked together enough cash to get Spiritchaser.  Had to do it,
despite all the mixed reviews and hearing about half of it at a Tower listening
station about a month ago (wasn't too impressed at the time) I'm still a diehard
fan.  I've listened to it once so far and my impression is, well... apathetic, I
guess.  There are some good songs; Song of the Dispossessed is probably my
current favorite, but most of the album just seems to run together.  The whole
thing seems to lack the substance and depth present in all DCD I have heard thus
album, Aion).  I'm anxiously awaiting their arrival in Seattle Aug. 5 to see if
a recent poster's report that the music is meant to be heard live, is accurate.
A few design criticisms:  I was discussing this with a fellow designer and DCD
fan, and we came to the conclusion that the reason the design seems so bad is
primarily the colors used.  The designer (Chris Bigg) took a completely
different route than that had been used in the past (somber earthtones mainly)
and used blues and reds.  This makes the whole thing seem cheap and
insubstantial compared to past designs, where buying a DCD album came close to a
religious experience.  I don't know how much influence was exerted over this by
Lisa and Brendan, but it's a departure I don't personally care for.

I've also recently picked up a few other thislisty albums that have been
before this list, so thank you Area fans!  Anyone know how many albums they have
released?  Also, I found Pale Saints/ Slow Buildings used and really like it.  I
listened to In Ribbons in the store, which seems to be the favorite PS album on
this list, but it didn't grab me as much as Slow Buildings.  Must be that
dynamic intro on "King Fade" that did it.  Last but not least, I got The City of
Lost Children soundtrack.  Pretty good.  A couple of observations:  Marianne
Faithfull's voice sounds a heckuva lot like Jimmy Scott's on the Twin Peaks:
Fire Walk With Me soundtrack in the song "Sycamore Trees".  Also, does anyone
think the theme on this soundtrack sounds similar to the theme from The Elephant
Man, by a different composer?  David Lynch directed this movie, as he did Twin
Peaks, so I'm wondering if Badalamenti borrowed a bit.  It's not something I can
put my finger on, but one really reminds me of the other.

I asked about the Booth and the Bad Angel disc, but the clerk (Wherehouse) had
no clue.  He hadn't even heard of James.  Does anyone know if this has been
released in the US yet?  Sorry if this has been discussed.

Well, sorry this is so long and only slightly list-related.

Back to Lurkersville,

Jon


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:38:10 -0400
From: Nelson Jennifer (nelsonj@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA)
Subject: shallow


just to put another word in for shallow.

they played recently in toronto for the north by northeast fest (the
quiet cousin of south by southwest).  they are most thislistie and worth
a listen.

any idea what label they signed to (if any) and how to get hold of any
release(s)?  record stores here are lacking to say the least.

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:52:37 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: LINDA PERRY - Solo album (Lisa Germano guesting)


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Just a bit of useless info - I got hold of Linda Perry's (aka - L7) solo =
effort yesterday - Lisa Germano is credited for Violin on the album....

Have a great day !
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:57:49 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-


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TIm Booth and the Bad Angel album was released Tuesday (02 July) in the States..
.Accordinging to the Promotions Dept @ Polygram....

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From: Jon Drahn[SMTP:pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM]
Subject: various 4AD and non-


Greetings from Lurkersville!!!

Well, I finally raked together enough cash to get Spiritchaser.  Had to do it,
despite all the mixed reviews and hearing about half of it at a Tower listening
station about a month ago (wasn't too impressed at the time) I'm still a diehard
fan.  I've listened to it once so far and my impression is, well... apathetic, I
guess.  There are some good songs; Song of the Dispossessed is probably my
current favorite, but most of the album just seems to run together.  The whole
thing seems to lack the substance and depth present in all DCD I have heard thus
album, Aion).  I'm anxiously awaiting their arrival in Seattle Aug. 5 to see if
a recent poster's report that the music is meant to be heard live, is accurate.
A few design criticisms:  I was discussing this with a fellow designer and DCD
fan, and we came to the conclusion that the reason the design seems so bad is
primarily the colors used.  The designer (Chris Bigg) took a completely
different route than that had been used in the past (somber earthtones mainly)
and used blues and reds.  This makes the whole thing seem cheap and
insubstantial compared to past designs, where buying a DCD album came close to a
religious experience.  I don't know how much influence was exerted over this by
Lisa and Brendan, but it's a departure I don't personally care for.

I've also recently picked up a few other thislisty albums that have been
before this list, so thank you Area fans!  Anyone know how many albums they have
released?  Also, I found Pale Saints/ Slow Buildings used and really like it.  I
listened to In Ribbons in the store, which seems to be the favorite PS album on
this list, but it didn't grab me as much as Slow Buildings.  Must be that
dynamic intro on "King Fade" that did it.  Last but not least, I got The City of
Lost Children soundtrack.  Pretty good.  A couple of observations:  Marianne
Faithfull's voice sounds a heckuva lot like Jimmy Scott's on the Twin Peaks:
Fire Walk With Me soundtrack in the song "Sycamore Trees".  Also, does anyone
think the theme on this soundtrack sounds similar to the theme from The Elephant
Man, by a different composer?  David Lynch directed this movie, as he did Twin
Peaks, so I'm wondering if Badalamenti borrowed a bit.  It's not something I can
put my finger on, but one really reminds me of the other.

I asked about the Booth and the Bad Angel disc, but the clerk (Wherehouse) had
no clue.  He hadn't even heard of James.  Does anyone know if this has been
released in the US yet?  Sorry if this has been discussed.

Well, sorry this is so long and only slightly list-related.

Back to Lurkersville,

Jon


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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:23:04 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: shallow


> any idea what label they signed to (if any) and how to get hold of any
> release(s)?  record stores here are lacking to say the least.

They are on Zero Hour and have, er, 5 (?) releases thus far.  The album
(3d stereo trouble) and 6 song ep (cd laser lens cleaner) should be pretty
easy to locate.  The other singles/eps might not be but I haven't looked.
Check the Zero Hour web page for more information.  I'm not sure of the
url.

aaron


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:46:17 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: more non4ad than you'll ever be:


  "it was much better than Cats. i'm going to see it again & again."

  i was one of the freaks who went out on opening day to see
  independence day. let me just say, for any lover of kool special
  effects and alien mangling in film, YOU MUST SEE THIS FILM.
  go now! all of you!!! run to your nearest theater, steal a ticket,
  and prepare to watch the koolest thing i've ever seen since the
  first alien film. i may very well have nightmares tonight, especially
  since i know rather reputable people who've seen li'l flying objects
  and have had interesting conversations with military personnel on
  such matters....but all the weirded outness is worth it. tho, i think if
  we are ever mass-invaded by funky space creatures..i will either
  a) run for the mountains or b) commit suicide.

  jeff goldblum rocks,
  sunburnt k-j


  ...also, go out and buy the new lovesliescrushing. it's beeyooteafull...


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:49:52 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Edward Barton

              <22994.199607020832@hawk.le.ac.uk>

Andrew Norman wrote:

>Ed Barton was (probably still is) a Mancunian cult figure - there was a
>tribute album which featured two halves of Stump and the Inspiral
>Carpets amongst others

Including "Jane" herself who did the original version of Barton's "It's a
Fine Day".  I think her contribution to the EB tribute might have been her
version of "Slap Belly".  Great stuff.

I'm so sure that Tracey Thorn has never had anything to do with "It's a
Fine Day" that I'll eat my keyboard if she has.  Treat that statement with
disdain though.  I had to eat my last keyboard after claiming that Meriel
Barham was never in Lush.

>I think it was
>Barton who used to pop up on "The Tube" (seminal early eighties UK music
>show) from time to time - with a record player slung round his neck,
>singing songs with titles like "I have no chickens but I have a wooden
>chair".

Please, it's "I got no chickens but I got five wooden chairs".  He used to
"play" the guitar as well.  In fact I think he used to hang out at gigs
begging for support slots.  When he got them, he would caterwaul and just
use the guitar as a percussion instrument.  I remember seeing him once or
twice under such circumstances.  I was always rather chuffed at the outrage
and lack of humour expressed towards EB by those around me.  I tended to
rather like his more abstract offerings but even if I didn't, he was always
very funny.

Other interesting facts about Eddie baby.  He has a wood fetish and
basically collects wood, f'rinstance sodding great railway sleepers.  You
can see the evidence of this fetish in the video for James' "Sit Down"
which, if memory serves, features a number of large wooden thrones.
Actually, Eddie is a well respected video director.

Also, Ed did the classic "Knob gob".  Well, it's a classic if a part of you
is a twelve year old schoolboy.

Simon Hughes

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:40:51 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-


---Jon wrote:
I asked about the Booth and the Bad Angel disc, but the clerk (Wherehouse) had
no clue.  He hadn't even heard of James.  Does anyone know if this has been
released in the US yet?  Sorry if this has been discussed.
--- end of quoted material ---

It's been brought up, but no US date (only UK) has been given.  Does anyone
know?

Barry

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:05:29 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: shallow


>Check the Zero Hour web page for more information.  I'm not sure of
>the url.



Check out their homepage! I think they are having some sort of giveaway
if you answer some questions.



Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:13:00 -0400
From: Gregory Lawrence Smith (gt7003b@PRISM.GATECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: var 4AD and NON: Area

              96 11:08:34 pm

> Greetings from Lurkersville!!!

Hi.



> I've also recently picked up a few other thislisty albums that have been
> recommended:  Area/ The Perfect Dream; great stuff.  I'd never heard of them
> before this list, so thank you Area fans!  Anyone know how many albums they ha
e
> released?

Well, as far as I know, there are 4 albums.  Between Purple And Pink (I'm
looking to buy this if anyone has a spare...), Radio Caroline, The Perfect
Dream, and Fragments In The Morning.  That last one is done without the
guitarist, so it's mostly that electric piano stuff.  And if you like
Area, you'll also like:
        The Moon Seven Times.  Check out the self-titled album and 7=49.
Both bands have appeared on ramdon compilations as well (Across This Grey
Land, Heavenly Voices, etc.)

And I've heard a rumour that Projekt will be reissuing the Area cd's on
Relic beginning at the end of the year.  Anyone know anything about this?

> Back to Lurkersville,

-greg
gt7003b@prism.gatech.edu

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:53:57 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - NYC date


i got my tix about two weeks ago, and according to the guy at the box office,
        it was nearly sold out.  he said that they *might* add another show,
        if there was a great demand for it, but i have called over the weekend
        to check, and they said that they had no info on a second date. :(
good luck getting tix.  anyone else going to the NYC date?

JHR

On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Craig Gordon wrote:

> Hello all!
>         I am new here, and was wondering if anyone had any info regarding
> the NYC concert (I think its at NY City Center on the 17th)... Does anyone
> have ticket info?
>         Thanks,
>         Craig
>         CGordon1@magic.hofstra.edu
>


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:00:04 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: It's a Thorne Day.


On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Joseph Burns wrote:

> Actually the Yes sample on Orbital's 'Halcyon...' is from the acapella
> version of 'Leave It' not 'Owner of a Lonely Heart'
>
> a little hair splitting I know...

I don'thear either. Can you be more specific about the sound and its
location in the song? I haven't heard those songs for years. (I should
have, maybe.)

Independence Day is the shit. Go see it everyone.


        not certain i'm looking forward to the rest of july 3rd,
                                                                 e


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:17:44 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 = Sadcore?


On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Heileson, Thomas wrote:

> Just heard a bit on NPR about a new movement called "sadcore" (ugh! damn
> trendariffic genre labels), in which they played a Mojave 3 song and
> commented on it. They didn't give the song title, but man is it
> countryfried. Hard to believe they were once Slowdive.

The term has been around for quite some time but fortunately they called
in the Center for Disease Control early and they managed to to contain it
to the "Bay Area", which is why you haven't heard it. Unfortunately, for
some silly reason they decided against nuking the area from orbit and
some of the actual music managed to escape. Tsk, tsk.

Mojave 3 are not sadcore; they are Slowdive with a chemical imbalance and
a hefty portion of denial.

Good morning,

 e

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:05:26 +-200
From: Jason Curtis (curtisj@ICL.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-


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From: Barry A. Mathews[SMTP:Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET]
Subject: Re: various 4AD and non-


---Jon wrote:
I asked about the Booth and the Bad Angel disc, but the clerk (Wherehouse) had
no clue.  He hadn't even heard of James.  Does anyone know if this has been
released in the US yet?  Sorry if this has been discussed.
--- end of quoted material ---

It's been brought up, but no US date (only UK) has been given.  Does anyone
know?

Barry


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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:24:13 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: more non4ad than you'll ever be? not me sista


What she said.

Did I say that already? Anyway, what she said.


   may actually buy a lovesliescrushing cd,

                                einexile the humbled


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:49:05 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: online database


At 08:42 02/07/96 +0100, you wrote:

>Anyone knows online databases of LP and CDs?

ciao Giuseppe,

non so bene cosa intendi per database di cd e lp, comunque prova il link con
la Emi olandese che adesso non ho sottomano, ma che trovi nella pagina dei
link della mia netzine reVision, http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041.
tra le varie cose ha la possibilit=E0 di cercare le uscite discografiche dei
gruppi.
oppure puoi provare con i rivenditori di cd/lp via internet, li trovi nelle
directory di qualsiasi motore di ricerca.

translation (sorry, can't resist to use my language):
try Emi Holland page, you'll find between links in the links page of
reVision, http ecc. ecc. or try net-vendors.

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:45 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: COCTEAUS KC DISASTER


At 23:33 02/07/96 +1000, you wrote:

>What sort of moronic promoter would put CT in front of Metallica???

no no no, in my opinion it is not moronic at all, apart the bad result - but
you can't tell it before.

I think it's interesting to mix different musics, and even if CT are lot
more "delicate" than metal, their sound has a sort of, how to say,
totalization that in some ways can appeal some metal listener, I suppose (I
am not a great fan of CT and I do not like metal, anyway).

I think it was an experiment that had to be made and a risk that had to be
taken.

>
>*ooops* Sorry I forgot, it's a loolapalooza gig>>> self explainatory.
>
>Next year:Heidi Berri tours with Megadeath
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Arthur Chan
>Campus Editor
>ENTRoPY Magazine
>
>
>
>entropy/ 1. measure of energy unavaliable for work in a thermodynamic system
>         2. a measure of the state of disorder of a system.
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:59 +0200
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Kodo and Ondekoza


At 00:06 03/07/96 -0700, you wrote:
>yes! if this is the japanese troupe who lives on an island where their lives
>are devoted to drumming...i saw a tv piece about them quite a while ago -
>incredible!

I saw them live here in Rome maybe 11-12 years ago... a wonderful show!

some months ago I went to see Ondekoza, strictly involved with Kodo, of
which, by chance, I am wearing a t-shirt now.

off topic, but here a short story of both groups.

The original group was Ondekoza.  They were living on a little isle, in a
life of study and discipline and all this stories because their drumming is
something really serious (and apart spirituality, their kind of drumming
require a real athletic preparation, because they play for long times with
heavy woods for sticks).

time after time, it seems that the discipline start to loose a bit, the
group take too much tours, and put in the show some spectacular element non
very orthodox, and in effect the Ondekoza show contain some fun element that
lack totally in the almost ceremonial Kodo act.  and, between all, *women*
were taken in the group!

so a more observant part of the whole group splitted and called himself
Kodo, while the original Ondekoza kept on this more hilarious way.

Both the groups are a wonderful show and I recommend them very much.

I am less enthusiast for the recorded music, because, lacking the live and
choreographic factor, it may result dull: just minutes and minutes of drumming.


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:54:30 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Booth & The Bad Angel


Booth And The Bad Angel
Fontana
In stores July 3 (Canada)
File under: Alternative


"Booth AndThe Bad Angel" is the collaboration between James' lyricist and
singer Tim Booth and soundtrack composer Angelo Badalamenti (Twin Peaks,
Blue Velvet, Wild At Heart, City Of Lost Children).

The album was recorded in New York over a six day improvisational period.
The songs they wrote suprized both collaborators. For sure, songs like "I
Believe", "Dance Of The Bad Angels" and "Fall In Love With Me" (their
mutual favourite) are entirely in keeping with the floating, ethereal
quality of Badalamenti's music for Julee Cruise and Twin Peaks. However,
"Hit Parade" and "Old Ways" are hook-packed pop songs and would be the
envy of any young band. Back in England, Booth recruited ex-Suede
guitarist Bernard Butler to play guitar on five tracks and mix six songs.
Tim Simenon mixed a further two.

The release will be supported with the first single "I Believe" at radio
and video, as well as advance publicity.

CD 526 852-2

Track Listing
I Believe / Dance Of The Bad Angels / Hit Parade / Fall In Love With Me /
Old Ways / Life Gets Better / Heart / Rising / Butterfly's Dream /
Stranger / Hands In The Ra

also available:
James 510 576-2/4
Laid 314 514 943-2/4
Seven 510 932-2
Wah Wah 522 827-2

To order any of these items at decent prices, ie take advantage of the
Canadian dollar, e mail Republic Records in Toronto at
republic@interlog.com
or visit their site with a week-by-week release schedule

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:02:54 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: "Wonderwall" covered!


THE MIKE FLOWERS POPS:
TAKE YOUR FAVOURITE SONGS TO A GROOVY PLACE

In stores this Wednesday, July 3rd in Canada

"Whatever you think of The Mike Flowers Pops' easy-listening version of
the Oasis hit song `Wonderwall', it's mere existence proves a number of

1) imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  2. Oasis, one of the few
British bands of late to successfully invade North America, really has
made it. 3. The world is starved for some real camp."

-- Jane Stevenson, Toronto Sun, February 1996

"I think it's liberating to see music as light entertainment -- not to
see it as art.  That's what I'm interested in -- it was good fun 20 years
ago, as it will be in 20 years time... What I love to do is arrange a
tune, write the score and just see how it comes to life when played by
musicians.  When it works, that's what's most rewarding."

-- Mike Flowers, in Select

The  cynics screamed "novelty" when The Mike Flowers Pops emerged late
last year with a very "reverent" and barely recognizable cover of -- not
an oldie, a CURRENT hit -- "Wonderwall".  You have a right to be
suspicious, but Mike Flowers  is undeniably the next big thing (nudge)
and he's destined to be a huge star (wink) with his debut album of
special covers and suitably tacky originals, A Groovy Place.  Why?  Let's
get back to our story, now...

Just in time for Christmas, "Wonderwall" redux came THIS close to the
coveted seasonal #1 slot, beat out only by Michael Jackson.  In the end,
the cynics lost as over 400,000 copies of the `Flowered-Up' "Wonderwall"
were sold, causing Oasis' original to rebound into the charts, although
the original peaked at #3.  Punters who'd just clued into this hot new
combo Oasis,  thought "Aha!  This must be the original!"   The MFP mania
even spread to Canada, the video was Choice Cut at MuchMusic and Buzzclip
at Musique Plus for two weeks running, and the CD single became our most
popular import single ever.

The official reaction from the bad boys themselves?  Noel Gallagher has
to say: "Well, it's a good song, innit?", while brother Liam Gallagher
weren't about to complain about bonus songwriting royalties, were they?

The saga continues with MFP's  latest UK top 40 single, a decidedly Light
take on The Doors' "Light My Fire".  Tales of irony for you -- the 1967
original, Jim Morrison and Co.'s signature tune fercryinoutlawd, barely
charted in the UK but went to #1 in the U.S. and #2 in Canada.  Most
Brits heard Jose Feliciano's breezy-listening cover a year later -- it
peaked at Number 6 and (in case you forgot) did even better in the US
(#3) and Canada (#1!!)    The single's AA-side, "Please Release Me" was
Englebert Humperdinck's #1 bondage anthem from the summer of love that
(remember it now?) hit Top 5 in North America and #1 in the UK, where it
remained on the charts for over a year.

And now we come to the album.  Produced and arranged by Mr. Flowers, the
much-anticipated A Groovy Place includes all the hit singles, as well as
originals like "Freebase" (an instrumental), "Crusty Girl" and "A Groovy
Place".  Covers include Bjork's "Venus As A Boy", Prince's "1999", "The
'In' Crowd" (interpreted through the years by Dobie Gray, Bryan Ferry and
Percy Faith) and a swingin'  Velvet Underground medley.

Born Mike Roberts in Liverpool, the now-35-year-old Flowers got into jazz
at 13, taught himself music theory, and entered London's Chelsea School
of Art in 1978.  He later busked on guitar and started a group called The
Chihuahuas, who covered obscure '60s B-sides far before it was
fashionable.

Inspired by heroes like Burt Bacharach, Gil Evans (Miles Davis' arranger)
and John Cage, Flowers (who doesn't buy records, by the way; he'll hear
something on the radio that could stand re-arranging) donned a blonde wig
and a polyester suit and created The Pops in 1993 to bring the sound of
the 'pop orchestra' and 'expanded combo' to everyone!  This talented and
well-dressed ensemble of thirteen -- the three Sound Superb Singers, the
four-piece Super Stereo Brass and his five piece backup band, have been
entertaining growing UK and European audiences ever since.

Emphasis here in "entertaining" -- for as Mike Flowers states:  "Our
ethos is essentially a positive one, it says to forget your differences
and seek out the common ground... then relax and enjoy, for this is a
wholly non-competitive pursuit, where the object is mutual acceptance and
pleasure.

I see the act as a kind of leveller.... a spectacular, democratic music
entertainment for the whole family." A Groovy Place?  We won't be back
for a long, long time. (June 1996)

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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:42:39 -0400
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Booth & the Bad Angel


  I saw 2 eps in the store today.  Three songs each...and they are
called parts 1 & 2 of a 2-part set.  It looks like there are at least 4
mixes of "I Believe" between the two.


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:56:32 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: var 4AD and NON: Area

              Jul 1996 09:13:00 -0400

>   And I've heard a rumour that Projekt will be reissuing
>   the Area cd's on Relic beginning at the end of the year.
>   Anyone know anything about this?

I'll believe it when i see it, they've been saying that for years.  Maybe it's
true this time but ...

-cz

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:05:43 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: "Wonderwall" covered!

              14:02:54 -0700

>   "Whatever you think of The Mike Flowers Pops'
>   easy-listening version of the Oasis hit song
>   `Wonderwall',

... if you ask me the Oasis song is already easy-listening.
;(

-cz

Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:15:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: RAPOON and HNIA


On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Enrique Jimenez wrote:

>      Found this on the ambient list:
>
>      -----------------------------------------------------------
>      "RAPOON is the solo project of Robin Storey, a founding member of the
>      incredibly influential ambient-industrial group ZOVIET FRANCE
>
>      RAPOON 1996 North American Tour
>                                 *** subject to change ***
>           (check http://www.interlog.com/~stained/rapoon.htm for latest info)
>
>      6 Jul   Detroit, MI  Zoot's (with various incarnations of His Name Is
>      Alive)"
>      -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      Does anyone know which incarnations of HNIA will play at the date
>      mentioned above?
>
noise trumpet...
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:12:34 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Orbital/Halcyon


the yes sample is on the version of Halcyon thats on the 'Radiccio' ep.
sorry if you've been pouring over the album version in vain... the two
versions are different.


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:43:52 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 = Sadcore?


At 8:17 AM 7/3/96, einexile the meek wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Heileson, Thomas wrote:
>
>> Just heard a bit on NPR about a new movement called "sadcore" (ugh! damn
>> trendariffic genre labels), in which they played a Mojave 3 song and
>> commented on it. They didn't give the song title, but man is it
>> countryfried. Hard to believe they were once Slowdive.
>
>The term has been around for quite some time but fortunately they called
>in the Center for Disease Control early and they managed to to contain it
>to the "Bay Area", which is why you haven't heard it. Unfortunately, for
>some silly reason they decided against nuking the area from orbit and
>some of the actual music managed to escape. Tsk, tsk.
>
>Mojave 3 are not sadcore; they are Slowdive with a chemical imbalance and
>a hefty portion of denial.
>
>Good morning,
>
> e

e wish he could live in an area so beautiful and free of toxic life forms
such as himself. Sadcore rrrrules!

Fred Collins


Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:08:43 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: River Rimy This Can Be The Month!


I've almost forgotten all about it, but:

        January: no

        February: no, maybe next month...

        March: uh... no

        April: not yet

        May: soon...

        June: yes! oh, um, no

        July: ?


Will this be the month when the Ltd. version of This Rimy River... etc. etc.


The people at v23 must HATE this production by now.


Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:34:41 -0700
From: parker (hacsc277@DEWEY.CSUN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...

          cocteau twins list 

For all who like CT, and are not yet aware, check out Slowdive's '91
release "Just For A Day".  Especially tracks 2-Celia's dream, 6- Waves,
and 7-Brighter.


Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:45:25 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser


At 06:04 6/27/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Einexile is a bit harsh: Dead Can Dance's "Spiritchaser" is not a terrible
>album, but it  will probably lag in playtime far behind "Within the Realm"
>and "Serpent's Egg".
>
>Gerrard and Perry should be given credit for following their own
>interests on their most recent album, rather than pandering to the
>expectations of their fans, like a former 4AD trio I could mention.

I totally disagree with you re: Cocteau Twins, who you obviously refer to
here. They have evolved over the years, each album has a totally different
sound from the next, and now with Robin's interest in Seefeel/Mark
Clifford's ideas, have gotten into a more minimalist, techno groove with the
EP "Otherness". This sound was tested on CT's audiences during their recent
tour, and the response was very enthusiastic. Rather than "pander" to their
fans, I think CT tests their own boundaries and takes their fans along for
the ride. A very pleasurable ride for most of us! Too bad you don't like
them anymore...you missed their best tour yet!!! I was lucky enough to catch
them both in Atlanta & D.C...still buzzing!
>
>If "Within the Realm" was the result (among other things) of Lisa Gerrard
>discovering the "Le Mysterie de Voix Bulgares" albums, "Aion" produced in
>the aftermath of some Hildegard von Bingen revelations, and "In the
>Labyrinth" a response to Islamic cantilation and Kurt Weill, then
>"Spiritchaser" perhaps results from Brendan Perry's investigations of
>Nigerian Juju music.

There are many influences on "Spiritchaser" besides African Juju. As a
person who has known personally some of the former members of King Sunny
Ade's band, I have heard alot of Nigerian music, both Juju & Afrobeat (ala
O.J. Ekemode & Nigerian Allstars). There is much more world influence on
Spiritchaser, albeit not much Latin (which I saw a reference to somewhere.)
I hear Hawaiian slack key influences ala the Pahanui family, I hear lots of
tribal drumming, and all in all, I like it, but I wish DCD would stick to
the former styles that made them so unique. Cause I've been listening to so
much world music, and world music followers like Mickey Hart & Peter
Gabriel, that I basically listen to "Spiritchaser" and say, "As nice as this
is, it's been all done before." Now "The Mirror Pool", THAT'S a unique
project that can only come from Lisa G. as a product of her experience with
DCD. I would hope that they get back on that particular track with their
next effort. Still I am looking forward to seeing them on tour in August...I
expect to be blown away no matter what they do!

  The sonic signatures (aside from the talking drum
>choir, the duo make use of the hand and electronic percussion present at
>Quivvy church) are all there, in the vocal rhythm and melodies, the call
>and response harmony vocals, layered light fingered guitar ostinatos, and
>hovering hawaiian slide guitar.  Owing to Brendan's vocal predicament, his
>pieces sound like Neil Diamond in Lagos.  Lisa is back to the sinuous,
>melismatic vocal lines of "Labyrinth", but given the mellow accompanyment,
>her voice doesn't compel me to crawl out of my skin, as in her finest
>moments.  The album, dispite the liner note invocations to animal
>spirits, is the lightest album DCD have released.  The artwork, while
>making the connections to black Africa explicit, is similarly meek.
>
>Anyway, if you like the sound of the album, particularly the Perry
>features, the album "Juju Music" by King Sunny Ade on Mango records is
>highly recommended.  It also happen to be a bit of a landmark, being the
>first afropop album released on a major label in the US.  Latter Ade
>records are less organic, but still perfect fodder for dentist waiting
>rooms.
>
>d s roy
>