Subject: Re: Kendra Smith's "Guild..." found
Subject: Re: my favorite song of 1996...
Subject: A Mass Reissue ?
Subject: Re: Re?: Meaning Of 4ad (4 X (A X D) =?)
Subject: Dubstar. Saint Etnenne. Pet Shop Boys??
Subject: biased faxguide moves
Subject: Let's just rename this the DCD List and be done with it
Subject: KendraSmith/InCamera/HNIA
Subject: Re: 4AD wallpaper
Subject: Re: the e-bow
Subject: Re: Neighbours.....
Subject: Guitar Geeks Unite!!!
Subject: Kendra Smith not on 4AD anymore?
Subject: 4AD in demand...
Subject: Re: Let's just rename this the DCD List and be done with it
Subject: Re: A Mass Reissue ?
Subject: Spinning on the AXIS
Subject: Re: KendraSmith/InCamera/HNIA
Subject: rachel's question
Subject: Jenny Toomey is sexy/In Camera isn't...
Subject: Re: rachel's question
Subject: Come, DCD
Subject: dreamy dancy dubstarry
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:01:17 -0700
"The Guild of
>Temporal Adventures" has been re(?)- released in a 10" vinyl format.
When this was originally issued, it came as a clear vinyl 10" and CD, both
with similar folding sleeves. The CD that is available now has a regular
jewel box.
Note that 4AD is NOT credited on Kendra's track on the Joy Division
tribute. Hmmm...
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:27:30 -0400
ah......dubstar. the rest of the album is similar to stars, though not quite
as dreamy. still.....it's my favorite disc of the year. their cover of billy
bragg's "st. swithin's day" is lovely. i urge anyone with an interest in
saint etienne or the pet shop boys to find *anything* by this band.
minky
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:21:30 -0500
Hi Everyone !
There is a rumour circulating that the Mass lp "Labour Of Love"
will be reissued by 4ad.
Anyone can confirm this ?
Merci Beaucoup.
[email protected]
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:38:28 -0500
Remember my previous posts on the meaning of 4ad ?...
FORGET ABOUT THAT !!
I FOUND IT ! I FOUND IT !
HERE !!! HERE !!!!
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Cedric : [email protected]
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:11:35 -0700
On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> ah......dubstar. the rest of the album is similar to stars, though not quite
> as dreamy. still.....it's my favorite disc of the year. their cover of billy
> bragg's "st. swithin's day" is lovely. i urge anyone with an interest in
> saint etienne or the pet shop boys to find *anything* by this band.
I hadn't really thought of putting the three bands in one message, but
you hae a point. The last time I really put a song on repeat like this
was Electronic's "Disappointed". Before that, Opus III's brilliant
rendition of "It's a Fine Day".
SPEAKING OF WHICH:
1. How is the new Electronic stuff?
2. When is the album coming out?
3. Whatever happened to Opus III.
4. --> insert ontopic question about washed up 4ad artist here <--
e
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:39:53 -0700
My lil fax guide has moved slightly. Since a few people had linked to it
without my knowing (i don't do a lot of surfing, as you can probably
guess since I spend 18 hours a day posting to mailing lists) I thought I
should mention the new url:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ei/einexile/mism/faxoff/faxguide.html
I've linked it to a few reviews, too.
happy hubris everyone,
e
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:37:12 +0000
Realising that this list is inundated with DCD flotsam every day of the
week, I'll try to keep it concise and to the point:
* A lot of people have expressed a slight disappointment in
'Spiritchaser.' Reaction has been generally one of approval, but there's
a general consensus that it's a bit, well, 'light'. Meaning that the
listener is not 'transfigured' by the music; the world does not reveal
itself, the clouds do not break, the hosts of angels remain a distant
memory. Know what I mean? Everyone's had that hair-bristling feeling,
the feeling of absolute positivism, engendered by truly spiritual music.
Everyone's got their own special favourites that have shaped their lives,
and that's what makes music one of the most powerful forces on earth,
and, unfortunately, seems to fool second-rate musicians into thinking
they can influence people how to vote (j'accuse NME, take note.)
The apotheosis of this energy is in the live act. At the Olympia in
Dublin, the first gig of the DCD world tour, all the above and more took
place. There is nothing more powerful than organised percussion, the
driving force of the current tour. Hence the power of a track like
Dedicace Outo, but only *when performed live.* This is the nub. The
material on Spiritchaser is a live experience. No sound system on earth
can reproduce the energy, the 'ki', of the music that Lisa Gerrard and
Brendan Perry have decided to commit to disc. It's unfortunate, but the
power of this music is three-quarters lost when it is reproduced. Hence
the 'lightness.' I was walking home from a club the other night at about
four in the morning up Dublin's Grafton Street, and there was a street
party going on. People were swarming all over scaffolding, the
brickwork, thronging the street, dancing and swaying. The atmosphere was
carnival. And why? The only reason for this was a group of three
drummers, not unlike the backing group for DCD, who were pounding out a
thundering tribal beat. Nothing more. If I had heard the same drumming
off a CD, it would have passed straight over my head.
This is why Dedicace Outo probably sounded like a brilliant idea at the
time up in Quivvy Church, but now sounds rather pointless.
* Point number two: it's only a matter of time before Brendan Perry
ditches the clothes, gets himself a long white robe, rents a ranch and
starts a dodgy commune. The man may have prodigious musical talent, but
those lyrics sound as if they were lifted from the copybook of a
twelve-year-old asked to write about 'de environment'. They are lyrics
to seduce female teenagers to. He is just as sinful when it comes to
(FICTITIOUS) INTERVIEWER: How do you get inspiration for your songs,
Brendan?
avenues, new wormholes where tread the spirits who shape our lives that
in shaping the whole unifying force we come to understand that we are all
but one except when we are turned inside out and find that in old magic
we are brought together in The Craft and discover that we are only empty
vessels where leylines cross and we must come to our crossroads where we
must decide where our souls must lead us up the path of true knowledge
which encompasses the whole point of what I am trying to say.
I wish I could do that.
Then again, he can play the yang chi'in and I can't, so 'Nuff Respect to him.
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:04:16 +0000
Hi there! A couple of questions I hope someone can enlighten me on:
� I just bought Kendra Smith's 'Five Ways of Disappearing' CD. Don't
know much about her. Before I listen to the album, can someone please
give me a brief history of her background? Who has she worked with
before, any previous band, etc..?
� Found In Camera's '13(Lucky for Some)' CD at the shop today. What kind
of music do they play? Should I get this album? I love most of the 4AD
bands, past & present.
� I know this is kind of outdated, but I only started subscribing to
this list recently. Can someone tell me how HNIA's 'Mouth by Mouth'
album compares to Livonia & Home Is In Your Head?
Your input will be much appreciated!
Cheers,
tytan
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:58:07 +0930
On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, A. Dean wrote:
> > 4AD wallpaper
> >
> > Enrique Jimenez ([email protected])
> > Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:05:49 -0800
> >
> > The question is, has anybody else sighted 4AD stuff lying around in
> > the surroundings of a movie or TV show?
>
> yep, and this one's quite surreal.
>
> there was an 'in ribbons' poster on the wall of the student radio station in
> an episode of neighbours a year or so back (the episode where the students
> were interviewing mrs. mangle when she was standing in the local elections).
>
> (do you get neighbours in the states? bad, cheap, popular soap opera from
> australia, the program that launched kylie and jason donovan and craig 'bugs'
> maclachlan on an unsuspecting world), in short, the last place you'd expect a
> pale saints poster to be.
I think Mushroom records supplied all the music for neighbours , and at
the time they distributed some 4AD bands ... I can remember the episode
though ... baffled me for a while .
> --
> [email protected]
> touch fuzzy get dizzy...
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:23:46 +0930
On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Lush Muse wrote:
> hey!
>
> can anyone tell me about the e-bow? i know it's a thing you use to play the
> guitar with to make certain effects. but what does it look like? where can i
> get one? and how much does it cost? sorry this isn't very thislisty, but i
> heard that bands like lush and pale saints used the e-bow, so...
It just vibrates across the string(s) to produce a constant tone ...
it just looks like a little chunk of plastic from what I've seen ..
The band that I saw using it (an Australian band called "The Mandelbrot
set" - very thislisty , but now sadly defunct) only used it on single
strings at a time , so I'm unsure as to whether it's possible to get
the same effect with chords ..
>
> thanks!
> pete
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:34:40 +0930
On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Arthur Chan wrote:
> I can't believe that you guys watch that shite in the UK
>
Hey .. now you just lay off the neighbours slagging this instant .. :]
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:15:14 -0700
***THE "GUITAR GEEK" GOES ONLINE**
Hello, this is Adam from Whirlpool Magazine. An online edition of the
"Guitar Geek"
will make its triumphant appearance on the WWW sometime this week. It will
boast the worlds largest pedal schematic archive of all your favorite
indie-guitarists (and a few sell-outs), a home recording section featuring
interviews with East River Pipe, Rocketship, The Apples (in stereo),
See-saw, and Shallow. We also will review old and new guitar gear, and deal
with topics such as label deals, publishing, touring by interviewing bands
like Ivy, Edwynd Collins, Luna, etc.
Anyway I'll post the URL the day it goes up (hopefully on the 4th of july.
Also, if there are any Guitar Geeks lurking on the list in some prominent
bands (Closedown, Dart, Super 31, Ellysium, etc) Please get in touch
through email, I'd like to work up a schematic on your live/studio set-up.
Thanks kids,
Adam
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:35:04 -0700
The Mystery Parade wrote:
>Note that 4AD is NOT credited on Kendra's track on the Joy Division
>tribute. Hmmm...
...and while not a surefire method of telling who is signed to the
label, note how Smith's name was not included in the "for more info
on..." part of the "Shaving The Pavement" cassette inlay card. Air
Miami was missing from that list as well...
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:54:55 -0700
Here is a quick list of commercial 4AD UK items I'm hunting for.
If you are willing to help me with these items, I'll make sure
you are compensated well for your efforts...
AXIS 3 BAUHAUS Dark Entries 7"
AXIS 4 SHOX No Turning Back 7"
AD 114 THE BIRTHDAY PARTY Mr. Clarinet 7"
BAD 215 COLOURBOX Breakdown (Vers. 1) 12"
AD 406 MODERN ENGLISH Breaking Away 7"*
BAD C 701 THROWING MUSES Chains Changed Cass.
BAD 806 CD ULTRA VIVID SCENE She Screamed CD
BAD 910 CD PALE SAINTS ...The Presence Of God CD
Please respond by private e mail. * indicates a single that was
manufactured but never released commercially. The song "Breaking
Away" ended up on Modern English's "Ricochet Days" CD reissue...
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:53:51 PDT
on sun 30 jun owen o'flahenty wrote:
>...There is nothing more powerful than organised percussion, ...
>... but only *when performed live.* ..
one word springs to mind KODO
> ...a group of three drummers.. who were pounding out a thundering tribal
>beat. Nothing more.
make it a group of thirty drummers, pounding a sometimes thundering
sometimes featherlight beat, on drums ranging in size from a large plate
to a small elephant. KODO .beats, rhythms and bars you never imagined
possible are performed with machine like accuracy, and a very human like
emotion. KODO. the show that will make your body tremble like a leaf,
while easing your soul to rest. and then, the other way round. KODO
you can see it. you can hear it. you can FEEL it. but you sure as hell
can NOT reproduce it. not with today's technology anyway. KODO
one more time, all together now
KODO
sound of the drum
beat of the heart
yeah
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:46:59 EDT
Cedric Caspesyan wrote:
>There is a rumour circulating that the Mass lp "Labour Of Love"
>will be reissued by 4ad.
>Anyone can confirm this ?
I cannot confirm or deny this. But I certainly hope not because it really is the
most dire record 4AD have ever released. Absolutely without any redeeming
features at all. And being purely selfish and a mail order subscriber, it's not
the sort of thing I'd want to be sent. Best forgotten, I think.
- Dez
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:29:26 -0700
The only AD version of AXIS 3 I was aware of was the "God In An
Alcove" flexi released with the August 1982 issue of FlexiPop
magazine in the UK.
I know for a fact that after AXIS 3, the "Dark Entries" 7" was
reissued in February 1980 with the blue 4AD label design and a
Beggars Banquet number, BEG 37. The single was reissued again in
the same month with BOTH Beggars Banquet label design AND the BEG 37
number. All I was aware of for AD 3 was the above mentioned flexi.
And another Axis item, Shox (AXIS 4) also received an 4AD release
after the Axis version was sold out. It reappeared as AD 4...
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:21:42 -0700
23:04:16 +0000
> ? I just bought Kendra Smith's 'Five Ways of
> Disappearing' CD. Don't know much about her. Before I
> listen to the album, can someone please give me a brief
> history of her background? Who has she worked with
> before, any previous band, etc..?
Why don't you go and listen to the album FIRST? I love Kendra Smith and would
love to tell you all about her previous bands BUT why would you want to know
about her if you end up disliking the disk? Sheesh! (and besides we've all
heard it here before--and it might even be in the FAQ)
> I know this is kind of outdated, but I only started
> subscribing to this list recently. Can someone tell me
> how HNIA's 'Mouth by Mouth' album compares to Livonia &
> Home Is In Your Head?
MbM is a real let-down and "sell-out" ;) in my book. Sure there are a few good
songs but it's much more mundane than either of the previous releases. There
are those who think it's a work of genius (mostly, the same ppl. who hated
Livonia). I think HiiYH is best but i still haven't found Universal Frequencies
yet (what's the deal?). I say save your money for Stars on ESP.
-cz
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:51:44 -0600
i've just finished listening to rachel's 'handwriting' for the first time
in months on this lazy sunday (how's that for thickly incomprehensible
grammar) and i am simply wondering how 'music for egon schiele' compares to
this release. grazie. :)
.j.
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risk.
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:39:28 -0700
I thought Liquorice WE'RE still on 4AD; I've heard talk of a second
album for 4AD. And they are listed in that "for more info on..."
part of the STP tape inlay. At any rate, they'll still release
stuff on Simple Machines, I'm guessing.
A side story: I wrote Jenny Toomey before "Listening Cap" came
out and one night shortly thereafter, I received a call from
Jenny!! We talked for almost twenty minutes, at her cost!!
She's really great and as far as I'm concerned, really IS the
second most beautiful girl in the world!!
The cover for In Camera's last 4AD 12" "Fin (BAD205) isn't much
to write home about. It's black and white and features the
band milling around the studio. It's a backwards picture, in that
everything is in reverse; the clock on the wall is what gave it away.
The back cover is equally un-v23-ish, just a white background
with light gray fonts reading: "In Camera/Session recorded
for BBC Radio 1 9.12.80/Jeff Wilmott/Peter Moore/Andrew Gray/David
Steiner/fin." The Hogarth Road address for 4AD is given as well
as the BAD 205 number and a (c) 1980 notice.
The best In Camera cover art is by far the "13 (Lucky For Some")"
compilation cover pic (BAD205CD on 4AD/TB106CD on TeenBeat). Is it
as gross or grosser than the scheer album cover art?
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:47:17 -0400
christ" at Jun 30, 96 05:51:44 pm
> i've just finished listening to rachel's 'handwriting' for the first time
> in months on this lazy sunday (how's that for thickly incomprehensible
> grammar) and i am simply wondering how 'music for egon schiele' compares to
> this release. grazie. :)
> .j.
I don't know the answer to your question, but I am intrigued. What does
'handwriting' sound like? And knowing who Egon Schile was, I'd love to
know what music is for him...
>
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>
> note: user has gone three days without a cigarette. provoke at your own
> risk.
Congrats. Not only for your health, but also because 85 cents of every
dollar in political contributions from the Tobacco companies goes to the
Republicans, to kill free speech, eliminate welfare, eliminate medicare,
put prayers in our schools, and ban abortion.
just a thought.
-greg