Subject: Re: 4AD/Dreampop Sale/Trade
Subject: Re: DCD Spiritchaser
Subject: Re: Stereolab n' such
Subject: Droneon, IDM, TooPure lists?
Subject: Re: "James" singer and A. Badalementi
Subject: Re: doom generation
Subject: Re: Philip Glass recommendations
Subject: Ryuichi Sakamoto, Caetano Veloso, Throwing Muses...
Subject: Re: curve = echobelly?
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...
Subject: Re: Ryuichi Sakamoto, Caetano Veloso, Throwing Muses...
Subject: Belly calls it quits?
Subject: Not thislisty, just an apologize.
Subject: Re: color trilogy
Subject: Swirlies 7"
Subject: Re: doom generation
Subject: Lisa Gerrrad "Lament"
Subject: Gus Gus / Reykjavik Rocks
Subject: Lisa Germano/Heidi Berry/Red House Painters
Subject: Re: Booth And The Bad Angel
Subject: Re: Belly calls it quits? & HNIA 7"
Subject: more new Church
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:14:58 +0000
ignored.
ignored.
ignored.
D' oh! My apologies for polluting the list.
-Mike
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:25:02 +0200
>I saw the new DCD cd in a record shop today and I must say that the design
>didn't really impressed me a whole lot.
Yeah, but what about the music?? It's one of the best records they've made!
>Did he (Vaughan O.) design it?
No it was Chris Bigg, the photography was done by Kevin Westenberg.
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 24, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:24:00 GMT
One of the highlights of the year for me was watching Stereolab with
Tortoise in support at Manchester University. Both bands were
brilliant but the climax of the show was the infinite encore where
both bands joined for the greatest barrage of sound I've ever
encountered.
I have to disagree about ETK not being as good as Peng or TRNWA but
hey...we're all allowed our opinions ;)
Cybele's Reverie is excellent, there's the standard release and a
promo issue with a different sleeve. The promo's selling for about �15
in the UK at the moment so it's well worth picking up if you find it.
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Date: 21/06/96 19:39
Jake Reichert writes:
>Track 1: The Noise Of Carpet. Since this is on ETK, I won't say much about
>it. What a groovy song. I hadn't heard any of their newer material, so if
>this is pretty representative of it, I'm hooked.
Actually it's the most old-Stereolabby sounding song on ETK, but the
album is quite good anyway. It's not up there with Peng! or Transient
Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements, but far superior to Mars Audiac
Quintet, largely by virtue of its funkiness(!) and the wide variety of
new sounds they toss in.
Thanks for the review ... I'll have to look for the UK "Cybele's Reverie"
EP then.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:54:18 -0400
Hi -
does someone have the listserv addresses for these three lists?
Droneon
IDM
TooPure
e-mail me privately. No sense in troubling the fine listfolk with unsolicited
mail.
GuerillaG - new name, same game.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:26:05 -0400
On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, jeremy redman wrote:
> Although I'm not totally positive, I know that the duo are going by Tim
> Booth and the Bad Angel, and the album is self titled (i think...). The
> first single is already out in the UK, I Believe. I think the album comes
> out over there early next month. August 6th is the supposed release date
> for the US.
and i think i read someplace that BERNARD BUTLER
(former axe-swinger for Suede) was going to be contributing
geetar lix to this project. somebody please post to
the list if/when this gets released?
dan
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:42:17 -0400
On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, WILLIAM D. BARRY wrote:
>
> I have only recently joined the list so apologies if this is old stuff..
> found a copy of the soundtrack for Doom Generation with curve CT, catherine
> wheel etc...
> None of these look like orginals but was more curious about the movie never
> heard... about it any info?
>
i rented this movie a few days ago. all the soundtrack
gems _are_ original versions. about the movie?
i'd say see it. its gorey (get the director's unrated
version), violent, sex-packed slackerdom with a 4ad twist.
basic plot: this hybridized goth/techno chick on a 3 day
crystal meth trip with her boyfriend and this dude they
pick up on the road. they all fuck eachother and
get into lots of trouble. anyways, the movie is rife
with inside jokes for the twentysomething 4ad generation:
*this dude calls his girlfriend 'my pearly dewdrops
drops'
*at a record store the main character is eyeing
a tmc boxed set (even tho she has one at home)
*thrill kill kult reference: the line
'bitch....im gonna find her....and im gonna
kill her....' is repeated about
six times by various folks.
*somebody talks about a friend who really
liked the smiths, and killed himself
while listening to 'unloveable'.
there are probably more subtle refs than these,
but you get the point? its worth the 3 dollar rental,
_if_ you can find it (and dont even go to block(ball)buster,
cuz they dont carry unrated films....
dan k
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:01:42 CET
well, he gave a concert in Warsaw a few months ago which included some of
his earlier and new works. you couldn't see any progress in style at least
when he plays solo piano.
this is a nice sort of music but it always leaves me feeling inert. it's
totally empty. reich seems to have a slightly spritlier spirit.
hey, don't forget The Protagonist was written for a film and WITH the film
it's just overwhelming. So is Koyaanisquatsi, as long as listened to with
images. some things are just meant to be listened to while your eyes are being
assailed with pictures.
or you can listen to them while taking a bath (the best use for Milk and Kisses
I could think of).
adam olszewski
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:57:55 -0400
Hey kids;
yesterday i went to Central Park to check the Summerstage concert with
Sakamoto and Caetano Veloso. it was awesome! :) but u see,
since i am not sure if this is relevant to anyone (except for
Brazilians, japanese, and -philes), i will skip my concert review.
ok, i will say one thing, though: Sakamoto and Caetono played
a couple of songs together, and it was amazing! :)
now, for stuff that will interest this list: Throwing Muses will be
performing at the summer stage on July 20th. It will be Luna,
Cornershop and TM. the show starts at 3pm. as it gets closer
to the day, i am sure other people will remind the list, and i
will also repost the date and times.
Central Park summerstage shows are free (ok, some *really* good ones ended
up being not so free - Natalie Merchant, Anne Lenox, etc), and
usually they are loads of fun (I will never forget how much fun I
had when They Might Be Giants performed!). so if u are in the area,
or planning to come to NYC, July 20th is the day. :)
more info about the Sakamoto & Veloso show can be requested privately. :)
J. Henrique R.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:20:58 -0400
> btw. is curve's guitarist in _echobelly_.. thought i saw the guy in MTV
> yesterday....
btw that _guy_ in echobelly formerly from Curve is not a guy its a girl,
androgenous yes, but a girl.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:41:34 -0400
"AD" means "anno domini" or "year of the lord"
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:45:07 -0500
I have the Akira soundtrack with the movie sound f/x mixed in. I understand
that even though this is the "original soundtrack" that there is another
available that doesn't have the movie noises; just the orchestrations.
As for "Ghost In The Shell"; my girlfriend and I went to see it a couple of
weeks ago at the Greenway Plaza in Houston (for those who live here). Seeing
anime on the big screen was pretty impressive; especially since this was the
first. GitS is a great flik. I really like the music; the children's choir
when the camera is panning thru the city comes to mind. Did Kurosawa direct
this?
Oh, and I left off "Seven" in my list of favorite movies! The cinematography
was amazing in this movie! At first the out-of-focus grainy film irrated me
(I thought the film was messed up) but then I realized the effect the diretor
was going for and I realized how magnificient it was! The blurry "too loud"
traffic noise overpowering the voices; the Gustav Dore images from Dante's
Inferno...and an amazing performance by another of my favorite actors! I won't
say who, for those who haven't seen the movie--but trust me; when this
woman/man appears for the first time in the movie; you have to just sit back
and marvel at the insight the director had to pick this particular person for
this particular role. (i'm not talking about brad pitt or morgan freeman
either)
Blah blah blah. I hear Gary Oldman is coming out with Bruce Willis in another
Luc Besson movie this summer, too.
marvynHortman Director FAQ --> ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:17:57 -0400
i went to this summerstage show as well and it was beautiful! of course,
being 5'2", i didn't see much but it sounded really lovely... all i could
see was ryuichi's bleached hair every now and then...
another neato notthislisty show at central park summerstage is Cibo Matto,
which is on july 6th at 3pm...they're opening up for yoko ono. throwing
muses i believe are playing with luna, just for the record...
short but suntanned,
lorelei
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:13:01 -0700
Is there any truth to the posts I've been reading in the Belly mailing
list that Belly have broken up and Tanya planning a solo career? Is this
a bad joke or something?? Here is the post from the Belly list...
>Hey kids,
>
> A sense of gloom and despair grips my heart as I found out the worst
>news ever imagined to a fan like myself: Belly have quit.
> Some of you know me from regular posts from the tour and since
>everything has quieted down, I have been drifting in and out of this
>list.
> And some more of you know that what I have just said isn't something
>that I would just blurt unless I knew it was almost positive that it was
>true.
>
> I was at a show a couple of days ago(I don't wanna say who and get this
>guy in trouble) and before the concert I had the very good luck of being
>able to kick back with one of the members of the band and shoot the
>breeze(Thank you Sung for the confidence that you were able to instill
>in me about the fan/musician relationship! ;) ). It was great. This
>person was almost as legendary to me as Tanya is. Anyhow, in the course
>of our conversation they asked me what kind of music I was into. The
>first word out of my mouth was Belly. I instantly threw upon compliment
>upon compliment of how she was an amazing person and she was a great
>performer and I was anxiously awaiting their next album. They looked at
>me and each other and one of them said with a half smile,"Well, don't
>look for that album anytime soon. There won't be another." I was
>instantly in denial and asked how they knew such a sorrid lie. "Tanya is
>a friend of mine and I was talking with her about 4 weeks ago and she
>told me that she was working on a solo project. Allegedly Belly is now
>deceased. I hope I haven't let the cat out of the bag..."
> I'm crushed.
> I need to be held...........
> With a heavy heart,
> Chris
Well, if anyone knows the true facts regarding this issue, please post
something. I had thought "King" sold reasonably well, enough to continue
with a third album... Oh well...
Jeff Keibel,
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:58:42 -0400
Just to apologize for the list addreses i sent 2 times.
I put R instead of F, that was my mistake.
Sorry if you have disgusted with that not this
listy information.
Regards.
Wilder.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:00:30 -0500
Well, you do need to see them in order to "get" the ending in "red".
marvyn
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:21:16 -0700
Okay, kids. I've got a question for you. I saw this double 7" the other
day with a funky hand-painted red cover. What's the story on this little
item? And what's its availability?
Thanks,
Jake
Who trekked the length and bredth of the Bay Area and finally found
Universal Frequencies
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:51:46 -0700
I'm glad that Dan K could find those references... Also noteworthy is
Perry Farrell as a 7/11 clerk.
However, unless you view this flick as a a truly extremetized charicature
of 20-something stereotypes--and even then--it sucks. I like the boyfriend
spoofing of Keanu Reeves, and the the Goth/Techno/Uma Thurman charade
and the Rob Lowe resonances with the faceles fuck machine hitch hiker they
find--but these alone cannot and should not sustain a movie.
I mean there was real opportunity there to make a meaningful impact, but the
film itself reinforces the insipid nihilism of our generation.
Self-centered, self-loathing, self-absorbed, self-gratifying--ugh!
Thus this movie really pisses me off, even though I went to it because of
two things 1) a friend was an extra and got us into the first screening 2)
THE SOUNDTRACK. Niether of these elements did or could make this
travesty a viable flick.
Rent it to see what even "INDEPENDENT-TYPE" film makers think we want to see.
I tell you it makes me want to initiate violent guerilla activities
against most of the entertainment industry. All of these technical resources
and inevitably, the product is the same formulaic tripe or stereotipically
divisive (excuse the spelling my editor sucks!) and reactionary white bread.
Brett
"Who is having to calm himself down with a hit of Nitrous, a drag of American
Spirit, and a chaser of Jack Daniels."
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 02:07:31 +0200
I have encoded the song Lament to a Real Audio format from originally 28 MB
.wav format to 308 KB .RA format.
The song Lament was only released on a 2 track French promo digipack called
"Deux titres "lIve" (1994).
Diffusion Eclusive Virgin rnce S.A.
Anyone tell me your email address or server where to mail the 308 KB to.
Regards,
Matthias
[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:18:33 EDT
Hi everyone,
I'm back from Iceland, and brought back with me a copy of the
eponymously-titled debut album by new 4AD signings Gus Gus. It was originally
released towards the end of last year in Iceland on the Kjol og Anderson label,
and whilst not quite a classic, it is the sound of a band absolutely oozing with
ideas. It's one of the most eclectic collections I've ever heard, and judging
from this, I think they'll prove to be one of 4AD's most exciting signings of
recent years. So what do they sound like? I really couldn't describe an overall
sound, such is the breadth of ground covered. Underworld and Lionrock are the
bands I think of most - not bad company to keep.
The opener, Gun, is a fairly laidback techno/funk groove that sounds a bit like
Underworld in their more mellow moods, overlaid with a dirty funk guitar lick.
The funk groove continues with Barry White Power, with a rather bizarre falsetto
vocal that becomes a bit annoying after a while. Polyester Day is another funk
trip which sounds a bit like the more uptempo stuff that Tricky does. Less
dope-fuelled, more superfly. It goes on for eight and a half minutes which is
probably twice as long as it should.
Chocolate sends us into Coldcut territory - mellow grooves, almost latin
rhythms, funky bassline, and subtle dabs of guitar.
Oh, track five, and Gus Gus have gone bossanova, with vibes, and the singer
sounding like Mick Harvey on his Serge Gainsbourg trip.
The first half closes with a ballad, Why, sung by Emiliana (I think), whose
voice is a little like Beth Gibbons of Portishead, but not that much. But it's a
really nice song.
Believe sends as back into a groove, a bit like Underworld's River of Bass.
Mellow almost to the point of somnambulance.
Cold Breath '79 follows, and reminds me very much of Manchester duo Lamb. Sweet
vocals, a bit of techno, and some wonderful downtempo beats.
Remembrance starts like it's going to be an Orbital homage, and then somehow
metamorphoses into Xymox! It sounds really incongruous compared with what has
gone before - all robotic beats, icy synths, and yearning angst-in-overcoat
vocals. It's actually very good indeed, even if it does go on for eight minutes.
If you played somebody Is Jesus Your Pal, and ask them to guess the label - they
would probably say 4AD. Very This Mortal Coil.
The last two tracks, Message From Disney and Purple, are superb, and taken as a
whole, run to a thirteen minute epic closer. The first is almost pure Detroit
techno, before it gets lusher and runs into Purple which sounds a bit like
Orbital's Halcyon. A brilliant way to close the album. So with Gus Gus, looks
like 4AD have got their techno/funk/trip-hop options all covered, with some TMC
type stuff thrown in. It will be interesting to see what the first 4AD stuff
will be like. Personally, I'm really looking forward to it.
I've no idea what distribution outside Iceland is like - I've certainly never
seen a copy of the album in the UK. I'd suggest you write to them at PO Box
1141, 121 Reykjavik, Iceland.
17th June is the Independence Day national holiday in Iceland, and everybody
goes totally barmy. There was an all day open air concert in Reykjavik. I saw
about five bands, most of whom were awful. But one stood out - Kolrassa
Krokridandi, a four female/one male guitar band, with the distinction of having
a violinist, and playing some fairly wired rock. Muses fans would probably like
them a lot - I know I did, so much so that I sought out an album of theirs. It's
called Kynjasogur, and is a little more restrained than they were live, but has
some good tunes on it. The label is Smekkleysa, and the address is PO Box 710,
121 Reykjavik, Iceland.
The only other band I saw (apart from a pretty awful Irish folk duo) were called
KOL. They played about 50% covers, the rest original material in Icelandic (or
covers of Icelandic songs). They were pleasant enough, but only merit a mention
here because they closed the set with a jolly reading of the Pixies' Here Comes
Your Man.
Of course, I didn't spend all of my time in Iceland at gigs or in record shops.
It's a stunningly beautiful country. I'd loved to have stayed all summer.
Certainly picked the right time to get out of Manchester, anyway.
- Dez
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:26:26 -0700
Lisa Germanos third album for 4AD, "Excerpts From A Love Circus",
is out soon and promises to be another great release from one of
the label's most personal and daring artists. Here is a chunk of
the press release for the new album...
"You're a snot/
And I adore you"
Lisa nearly didn't put "I Love A Snot" on the
album. "Ivo said to me, "I don't know why you
want to write a song about snot". I said, no,
Ivo it's not ABOUT snot. It's about A snot -
someone who's snotty, someone who's all snobby.
So later I was telling this story to two guys
from the 4AD office in L.A., about how Ivo
didn't know what a snot was and that it
must mean something different in England, and
how funny it was that he thought I would even
write a song about snot, and they said, "actually
we didn't know either until you just told us".
Anyway, the words don't make sense if it's
about snot...
Coming out on July 29th in the UK from 4AD is the new album from
Heidi Berry. "Miracle" is also her third album for 4AD. I was
not aware that Ivo was sold on her musical charms at a Lush gig,
whom Berry was opening for. Ivo was so impressed that he asked
her to contribute to his This Mortal Coil project, which she did
on "Blood" via the Emmylou Harris cover "'Til I Gain Control
Again". "...the next thing I knew, we had a deal", Berry says.
Also from the Heidi Berry press release...
Berry says "Miracle"'s unique sound was hard-won.
"Miracle" was conceived of as a record that should
sound like a living, breathing animal - full of
muscle, bone, blood and passion." The recording
was a "long and painstaking process", involving
much live "playing in" of the material, as well as
intensive pre-production rehearsals. Much of the
recording took place in a remote farmhouse studio
in Wales as well as in two London studios.
"Miracle" was recorded by Berry and producer Hugh
Jones, who also produced 1993's "Heidi Berry" album.
Not out on 4AD, but rather on Island on July 23rd is the new album
from Red House Painters. "Songs For A Blue Guitar" is the first
non-4AD album for Mark Kozelek and his band.
Island have launched a sub label called Supreme and have chosen
Red House Painters to be the first band to be released through it.
The first single from the album is indeed "All Mixed Up",
originally by The Cars. It will be interesting to listen to the
album 4AD chief Ivo passed on...
It's a rather busy summer for releases of 4AD and related bands.
Just got my phone bill in today, oh, how will I afford it all??
Jeff Keibel
Toronto, ON
CANADA
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:36:40 -0700
I saw this 2 part CD at the store last weekend...has anyone heard this yet?
any good? I love "the Bad Angel's" Twin Peaks music, so I wonder if this is
similar. (like Tim Booth instead of Julee Cruise?)
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