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Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:38:24 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)
Subject: Re: "A" "D"
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:53:21 GMT
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Queensland Band Query
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:41:00 CST
From: "Schwarz, Grant" (schwarz@MODWA.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Dreampop Sale/Trade
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:27:11 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:27:04 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Info on Seefeel, Labradford, Flying Saucer Attack
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:36:39 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:02:55 -0400
From: ulangilah (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:01:07 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Record Catalogues
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:04:13 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Michael Brook
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:17:19 +0100
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: FOR SALE : DCD in London!!!
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:16:39 +0100
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: "A" "D"
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:32:06 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:03:02 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: Queensland Band Query
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:05:36 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:01:01 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Who manages this list, and where are they?
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:15:14 -0400
From: Kit of Pink Gables (cwgattis@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: "James" singer and A. Badalementi
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:19:53 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: DCD live
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:09:00 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:52:22 +0200
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Texture, the new Catherine Wheel e-mail list
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:57:38 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab n' such
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:49:08 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Record Catalogues
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:51:54 +0800
From: Lim Kian Hong (qland@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Queensland Band Query
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:36:17 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Who manages this list, and where are they?
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:58:16 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: SF cocteau twins ticket forsale
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:26:24 -0700
From: despair (despair@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:44 -0700
From: ozymandias G desiderata (ogd@ORGANIC.COM)
Subject: new Church, details of c.w. b-sides album
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:14:25 -0500
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@vmsa.csd.mu.edu)
Subject: Re: Who manages this list, and where are they?
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:08:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:30:54 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Throwing Muses singles
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:36:23 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Philip Glass recommendations
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:40:17 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:33:35 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: doom generation
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:40 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: Re: The Doom Generation
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:45:00 -0700
From: Matt DeBellis (caruso@NANDO.NET)

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:38:24 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.


>I'm curious about what other listies play in regular roation on
>their stereos that isn't remotely 4AD-ish...


Someone has probably already complained about this thread, but I haven't caught
up that far.

Single Gun Theory - Flow the River of My Soul
Soundtrack - Secret of Roan Innish
Gondwanaland - Travelling
Died Pretty - Sold
Underground Lovers - Rushall Station
My Friend the Chocolate Cake - Brood
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads
Red Textas

Just bought Spiritchaser but I won't be near my cd player for hours!

David Boughey
dboughey@dest.gov.au


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:53:21 GMT
From: lbo (lbo@IOL.IT)
Subject: Re: "A" "D"


At 11:58 20/06/96 -0400, you wrote:

>does NOT mean after death, nor the latin translation.  Ivo released a few

and anyway, apart form the label name, AD in a date does not mean after
death but Anno Domini, latin for "year of our Lord (Jesus Christ)".  I think
english speakers use instead BC and AC, before and after Christ.

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:41:00 CST
From: "Schwarz, Grant" (schwarz@MODWA.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU)
Subject: Queensland Band Query


Can anybody in Queensland comment about a goth/ethereal Brisbane band called
Blood Party ? Influences meant to include Cocteaus and the Sundays.

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:27:11 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Dreampop Sale/Trade


>This Mortal Coil ....  5 Selected Orginals .......................... $10*


I'll pay you $15 for this one.

Let me know if...


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 20, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:27:04 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions


>Anyone heard about Mazzy Star playing in Manchester?

They are playing in Amsterdam (Paradiso) on the 4th of July (sounds like a
movie title), I'm going but I don't know if they are releasing a new
record...


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 20, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:36:39 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Info on Seefeel, Labradford, Flying Saucer Attack

              from "Geoff Elgey" at Jun 21, 96 08:45:20 am

 Geoff Elgey  wrote on Fri, 21 Jun 1996
 (Subject: Info on Seefeel, Labradford, Flying Saucer Attack)
 >
 > I've seen quite a few posts regarding these bands of late: Seefeel,
 > Labradford, Flying Saucer Attack.  I presume that they produce that
 > drone/ambient guitar type thang.  Can anyone tell me more about
 > these bands? Stuff like what the music is like, which album is
 > best/represents their sound best, etc.
 >
 > I've found a Seefeel site, but it doesn't mention much about their
 > most recent album Succour.  Any opinions? I'm yet to find any net
 > sites with info on Labradford or Flying Saucer Attack.

Seefeel - using guitar sounds to make techno compositions.  Early stuff
sounded similar to My Bloody Valentine ("More Like Space" has one track
which is almost identical in feel to parts of "Loveless"), sound has
progressed through "Quique" (multi-layered loops of guitar samples) to
"Succour" (sound now barely recognisable as guitar-sourced, much more
based on intricate rhythmic patterns).
"Pure, Impure", which collects two EPs and an Aphex Twin remix EP)

Labradford - slow, lo-fi drone/ambient guitar + synth type thang.  The
rumbles and hisses are part of the sound (taken to an extreme by the
band Stars of the Lid, whose music consists of little else).
"Prazision" has bits of spoken poetry, "proper" songs and more extreme
sound pieces, "A Stable Reference" adds a bass player and is more
song-oriented.

Flying Saucer Attack - mixture of styles - some of the songs take the
Jesus and Mary Chain's early style (horrible noise semi-obscuring
traditional pop songs) and push it to an extreme.  Some are repetitive
Krautrock, some have bongos or rain noises as part of the sound.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 21/06/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
New Wave compilation


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:02:55 -0400
From: ulangilah (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...


>Kryszewwski (i know its misspelled--the czech guy who did the 3 colors)

Kieslowski is not Czech but Polish. I saw his A Short Film About Love
recently - really good 'n' disturbing stuff.

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:01:07 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...


> other good movies to watch?  Win Wender's "Wings of Desire", "Faraway, So
>         Close", and "Until The End Of The World",

Oh, Christ.  Now "Wings of Desire" is definately one of my favorite
films of all time, and I like Wim Wenders a lot (don't forget "Paris,
Texas"), I hated "Until the End of the World"--which, incidentally,
was how long it felt like it was going to last.  I have heard that
the first part was okay, but the memory of it has been completely
destroyed by the last half, which goes for a while, feels like its
going to end, then keeps going, feels like its going to end, etc.
etc. as nauseum.  I believe fellow listie Darryl Roy watched it with
me and will be able to concur.  But I advise all of you, don't rent
it--you could do so much better renting a Coen brothers (*joel* and
ethan, to settle the debate) film.

Btw, did anyone see the sorta sequal to "Wings"?  I can't even
remember what it was called....  If you saw it, was it any good?

moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:04:13 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Record Catalogues


At 03:49 6/21/96 +0000, you wrote:
>G'day,
>
>  It seems that I'm always finding out about many interesting new artists
>on this mailing list. Whenever I do, I trudge along to my local record
>store and see what they can order in for me. At the store, the staff open
>up this huge catalogue, containing a list of all the titles that they can
>order in, regardless of the distributor.
>
>  However, I'm tired of looking in the record store's catalogue, only to
>find out that a particular title cannot be ordered in Australia. Does
>anyone know of any on-line catalogues, similar to the one's found in
>record stores? I don't mean on-line services such as CD-NOW, but a site
>somewhere that will tell me which titles are available for a perticular
>artist, who the distributor is, etc.
>
>  Any help greatly appreciated,
>
>  Geoff


Try Intergalactic Garage in Shephardstown, WV, USA...I haven't used them yet
but I've heard much good. I don't have their web address handy...you can
surf for it, I'm sure. Good luck!

Carol Coney

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:17:19 +0100
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Michael Brook


On Michael Brook topic: Shona (the album) is a pile of pants. Do not waste
your money on this.

I thought it would have been great coz Live at the Aquarium is a lovely
album - I actually prefer it to Cobalt Blue. The version of Lakbossa on
L@TAq is very different and, to me, is his best piece ever. Andean and
Ultramarine are similar to Cobalt but again, I think better.

Why is this? Maybe he laboured too long on the production of the studio
album - he is after all a producer mainly.

I saw him live at the Sylvian | Fripp  Road to Graceland tour - and he blew
the socks off the main act (of which he was part). So much so, at the
interval there was a long queue of people waiting to buy the Cobablt Blue's
which were for sale. Thus it makes me wonder more why he agreed to let them
release the very inferior Shona - which is way too bassy.

L@TAq has a track called Cascade which is not on Cobalt - it's well worth
the money just for that one track if you've been thinking that it isn't
worth buying a live album with the same tracks on it.

Brook also appears on the live album by Sylvian | Fripp - Damage. Good bet
just for the first and last tracks, though you don't really hear the Brook
sound that much.

Like someone else said, you can definately hear his sound on the Ali Kahn
album. This is a very worldy music style though. Again beautiful in another
way.

Sleeps with the Fishes by Brook and Pieter Nooten (that's how you spell it)
strips down some Xymox tracks to their bare bones, but I felt was mainly
about Nooten - Brook is listed as the producer, I wonder how much he had to
do with the actual playing...

Hybrid took me a bit of listening to get into - I've still got to be in
mood for it, but I do love it now. It's nothing like Cobalt or Aquarium -
more along the lines of Lovely Thunder by Budd (shit, did I just agree with
Einexile - oh fuck, no).

Apart from that he's done Music for Films III and Dream (?) with that
Indain Mandolin player U.Shrinivas or something. I've not heard either of
these so no comment there.

Hope my opinions help.

Andie


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:16:39 +0100
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: FOR SALE : DCD in London!!!


Hiya peeps!

I've got a spare ticket for the DCD show at the Theatre Royal on Drury Lane
for next Sunday (30th June - 7pm) if anyone's interested.

It's on row S - which was the best I could get after the tickets had been
on sale only two days! The ticket was meant to be for my American friend
Roy (wotcha squire!) but he made some shit excuse about his brother getting
married or something...

I'll sell for the price I paid for it - the only catch? You've got to sit
next to me and my friend Tim... Oh no!!!

Andie


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:32:06 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: Re: "A" "D"


On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, lbo wrote:

> At 11:58 20/06/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >does NOT mean after death, nor the latin translation.  Ivo released a few
>
> and anyway, apart form the label name, AD in a date does not mean after
> death but Anno Domini, latin for "year of our Lord (Jesus Christ)".  I think
> english speakers use instead BC and AC, before and after Christ.

No, english speakers use Anno Domini.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:03:02 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.


I actually think this "thread" is really cool... I'm amazed at the breadth of
bands people on this list listen to..and it's a good way to learn about non-4AD
bands that are worth checking out...

Barry


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:05:36 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: Queensland Band Query


--- You wrote:
Can anybody in Queensland comment about a goth/ethereal Brisbane band called
Blood Party ? Influences meant to include Cocteaus and the Sundays.
--- end of quoted material ---

Blood Party?  BLOOD PARTY?  I find it hard to imagine a band with cocteaus-like
music naming themselves Blood Party, but it is amusing.

Barry

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:01:01 EDT
From: "Barry A. Mathews" (Barry.A.Mathews@VALLEY.NET)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...


No one has mentioned Gary Oldman's performance in "Prick Up Your Ears" as the
playwright, Joe Orton.  I think it was one of the first times I saw him.
Really great performance.  It's too bad more people don't know about Joe
Orton...he was a brilliant writer with little formal education.

Back to music...I loved the soundtrack to Romeo is Bleeding, but I normally
don't like jazz - is there a huge difference between Mark Isham and other
contemporary jazz artists that I may have heard and not liked.  I'm sorry to be
so completely ignorant about jazz, but back in the days when I worked music
retail, I found jazz customers to be sort of snobby and overly-cerebral & it
really turned me off to the music.  I'd appreciate any comments someone has
about this...

Barry

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:15:14 -0400
From: Kit of Pink Gables (cwgattis@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Who manages this list, and where are they?


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
June 21, 1996                              Ta/im ag imeacht le haer an tsaoil!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sorry to bother you with this post.  I've been trying to get off this
list for the past month (since the end of May) with no luck.

I'm subscribed to the list as cwgattis@fas.harvard.edu but apparently when
it goes through the hub of harvard central, I become
cwgattis@husc.harvard.edu.

Eudora thinks I'm cwgattis@fas.harvard.edu -- changing this setting has no
effect on the listserv's perception of me..

I've sent the signoff command to LISTSERV@AMERICAN.EDU, to which the
response was:

>> SIGNOFF 4AD-L
>You are not subscribed to the 4AD-L list under the address your message came
>from  (cwgattis@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU).  You  are being  mailed  some  additional
>information with a few hints  on getting your subscription cancelled. Please
>read these instructions before trying anything else.

and

>No entry for your cwgattis@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU address could be found in the
>4AD-L list at AMERICAN.EDU. Here are a number of possible reasons why you
>might still be getting mail from the list:

I've sent messages to 4AD-L-request@AMERICAN.EDU, to which the response was:

>Your  message to  4AD-L-request@AMERICAN.EDU  has been  forwarded to  the
>"list owners"  (the people who manage  the 4AD-L list). If  you wanted to
>reach a  human being, you used  the correct procedure and  you can ignore
>the remainder of this  message. If you were trying to  send a command for
>the computer to execute, please read on.

I've also send email to jimj@request.net, who was said to be the list owner
in the following message from JHR:

>and about Mr. Jones (system admin), as the current FAQ states, he usually
>        doesn't reply to msgs very promptly.  the address i have is in the
>        faq:  jimj@request.net


When I orginally signed on via a web page, I got this email:

>> subscribe 4AD-L Kit Gattis
>You have been added to the 4AD-L list.

The web page has no page to unsub from these mailing groups, so I can't
unsubscribe the way I subscribed.

I would appreciate some help in this matter.  Nothing's worked so far, and
I've tried sending email directly from my email account (not through
Eudora), and that hasn't worked either.  I really don't see how the list
manager could be away for a month without someone else being left in charge
to take care of problems such as these.

The moral of this story is that I won't subscribe to lists via web pages.

Thanks for your help.

Bye for now...

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:19:53 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: Re: "James" singer and A. Badalementi


Steven Venn wrote:

   Does anyone know what the name of the cd is
   that is going to be released by the lead singer
   for the band James and Twin Peaks/Lynch soundtracker
   Angelo Badalementi? Also when its going to come
   out?

Although I'm not totally positive, I know that the duo are going by Tim
Booth and the Bad Angel, and the album is self titled (i think...).  The
first single is already out in the UK, I Believe.  I think the album comes
out over there early next month.  August 6th is the supposed release date
for the US.

--
jeremy redman      "peace in a world free from religion,
 jredman@uci.edu     peace in a world where everyone gets heaven."
                      - Toni Halliday

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:09:00 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: DCD live


dan k. wrote:
>         im a rabid dcd fan. here's the dates from their site.
>         looks like youre gonna have to drive for a while.
>         but they _did_ do atlanta last tour, and skipped
>         lots of the midwest... well, here they are:

>                       aug 10 los angeles universal amphitheatre
>                       aug 11 san diego humphrey

I wouldn't take the dates listed at the 4ad site as gospel truth, because
the aug 10 date at L.A. is actually on the 11th.  Not sure what's happening
with San Diego.. (this i know, cause tickets went on sale last weekend..)

--
jeremy redman      "peace in a world free from religion,
 jredman@uci.edu     peace in a world where everyone gets heaven."
                      - Toni Halliday

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:52:22 +0200
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions


> They are playing in Amsterdam (Paradiso) on the 4th of July (sounds like a
> movie title),

sounds like my birthday to me :))

> I'm going but I don't know if they are releasing a new
> record...

They were to be playing on the Torhout/Werchter festival (on 5 th and 6 th of
July),but those shows are canceled.I hate it!! . They cancel all great gigs
here : The Amps on Zwemdokrock (12 july) and now this.:(
Let's just Hope Scheer still comes to Dour and Zwemdokrock .:)

       seeya,

                  snailhead


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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:57:38 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Texture, the new Catherine Wheel e-mail list


The latest news from Catherine Wheel is that they are about
to release a b-sides compilation called "Like Cats & Dogs"
sometime in August.  Right now it is scheduled as a USA
release _only_.

There is a also a new(ish) Catherine Wheel e-mail list.
It's called TEXTURE.   Dave Hawes, the bass player,
contributes info through one of the list members.


To subscribe to the automated list, send an e-mail to:

        MAJORDOMO@TELEPORT.COM

With this line in the body of the message:

        SUBSCRIBE TEXTURE-L 

To subscribe to the periodic DIGEST list, send e-mail to:

        MAJORDOMO@TELEPORT.COM

With this line in the body of the message:

        SUBSCRIBE TEXTURE-L 

>
>Sorry to go off-listy but due to the demise of the Catherine Wheel
>Mailing list and general lack of CW info in the UK I was just wondering
>if there is any news about the band/release date of the compilation.
>
>'H'y
--
Chris.
luna@teleport.com

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:49:08 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab n' such


Jake Reichert writes:
>Track 1: The Noise Of Carpet.  Since this is on ETK, I won't say much about
>it.  What a groovy song.  I hadn't heard any of their newer material, so if
>this is pretty representative of it, I'm hooked.

Actually it's the most old-Stereolabby sounding song on ETK, but the
album is quite good anyway. It's not up there with Peng! or Transient
Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements, but far superior to Mars Audiac
Quintet, largely by virtue of its funkiness(!) and the wide variety of
new sounds they toss in.

Thanks for the review ... I'll have to look for the UK "Cybele's Reverie"
EP then.

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:51:54 +0800
From: Lim Kian Hong (qland@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Re: Record Catalogues


>Try Intergalactic Garage in Shephardstown, WV, USA...I haven't used them=
 yet
>but I've heard much good. I don't have their web address handy...you can
>surf for it, I'm sure. Good luck!
>
>Carol Coney
>
duuhhh... it seems that many have complained 'bout their services.... IG i
mean...=20

these r some that were previously posted to the list....


siren

Vinylink (vinylink@ari.net)

>Well, oddly enough I just ordered HNIA's "Universal Frequencies" from CDNow
>today.  They are an excellent mail-order company.  I have done business=
 with
>them almost since their inception, and they have always been prompt and
>efficeint.  I've never had any trouble with them.  My only complaint is=
 that
>they are a bit pricey--but that is acceptable in light of their fantastic
>service and decent selection.  Right now they even have the Rkyo HNIA promo=
 CD
>"His Name Is Alive Sings Man on the Silver Mountain" for US$15.00.
>I do all my business with them through the net--I don't know if you can=
 order
>from them by phone or mail.
>Another great company is Parasol.  They send out updates every two weeks,=
 and
>take orders via phone, fax, mail, and I believe the net as well.  If you
>require any further information, let me know.
>--gary

hope they're of help

cheers
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:36:17 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Queensland Band Query


>Blood Party?  BLOOD PARTY?  I find it hard to imagine a band with
>cocteaus-like
>music naming themselves Blood Party, but it is amusing.

Well, the first song on the first Cocteau Twins album _is_ called "Blood
Bitch"...

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:58:16 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: Re: Who manages this list, and where are they?


I, too, am having trouble unsubscribing.  I manage a few lists of my own,
so I'm familiar with the procedure, however, it doesn't seem to be
working.

Anyone?  Anyone?

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:26:24 -0700
From: despair (despair@netcom.com)
Subject: SF cocteau twins ticket forsale


I ended up with an extra ticket for the San Francisco show, available for what
it cost.  Email or call tina at 415.861.2728

regards


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:44 -0700
From: ozymandias G desiderata (ogd@ORGANIC.COM)
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish.

              <1222211@hanover.VALLEY.NET>

I too find this thread very interesting and a little frightening -- I
mean, we all have such obviously highly divergent tastes. But, anyway,
looking through my 48 CD wallet of stuff that I bring in to listen to at
work  (items marked with an asterisk are somehow thislisty):

Main - the Hz series (Beggars Banquet)
Moonshake - Eva Luna (Too Pure) *
Moonshake - Big Good Angel (Too Pure) *
Moonshake - The Sound Your Eyes Can Follow (Too Pure) *
Codeine - The White Birch (Sub Pop)
Fugazi - 13 Songs (Dischord)
Fugazi - Repeater (Dischord)
Fugazi - In On The Kill Taker (Dischord)
The Crownhate Ruin - Until The Eagle Grins (Dischord)
Rex - s/t (Southern) *
Sleater-Kinney - Call The Doctor (Chainsaw) *
Lilys - In The Presence Of Nothing (Spin Art / Slumberland) *
Lilys - Eccsame The Photo Band (Spin Art / Slumberland) *
Superconductor - Bastardsong (Boner)
Medicine - Her Highness (American) *
Th' Faith Healers - Lido (Too Pure) *
Catherine Wheel - Chrome (Fontana) *
Bob Mould - Bob Mould (Rykodisc) *
Bob Mould - Black Sheets of Rain (Virgin) *
Red House Painters - that recent one ;) (4AD) *
His Name Is Alive - Home Is In Your Head (4AD) *
Slowdive - Pygmalion (Creation) *
Mojave 3 - Ask Me Tomorrow (4AD) *
Download - Sidewinder (Nettwerk)
Download - The Eyes of Stanley Pain (Nettwerk)
The Black Dog - Parallel (GPR) *
The Black Dog - Temple of Transparent Balls (GPR) *
Cherry Bomb - Electronics For Dogs (Freedag Nuveaux) *
YO3 - Bitter Sweet (GPR) *
Sun Kings - Hall of Heads (GPR)
Subtropic - Homebrew (Reflective)
V/A - Objets D'ART 92-95 (New Electronica) *
Emmanuel Top - Release (Attack)
V/A - Rauschen 10 (Force Inc.)
V/A - DJ Kicks -- Carl Craig (!K7)
V/A - Jeff Mills Live At The Liquid Room (REACT)
69 - The Sound of Music (R&S)
V/A - X-Mix -- The Electronic Storm (mixed by Mr. C)
Psychonauts - Alchemy (Reload Ambient)
Phlegm - Ashes (Reload Ambient)

So there you have it. Full-on lushly orchestrated MBV / Spacemen 3
ripoffs (Lilys) to abstract scrapings of sound (Main, Phlegm) to
obnoxious punkish noises (the Crownhate Ruin) to self-absorbed
melancholia (Red House Painters, Bob Mould, Rex) to crunchy obnoxious
techno (Emmanuel Top, Rauschen 10, Jeff Mills) to stuff that's everything
at once (Medicine ;). Somewhat unusually, there's no Swans or skin in my
little pouch; I rarely go anywhere without at least one of Michael Gira's
dirgelike tone poems with me. Similarly, the techno I haul to work with
me is generally much less gentle / trendily intelligent than the
selection I have there. I like that hardcore sound.

ozymandias

PS -- What is it about this list that's made it so attractive to so many
people with goofy netnyms? ;)

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:14:25 -0500
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@vmsa.csd.mu.edu)
Subject: new Church, details of c.w. b-sides album


i don't knwo if these have been discussed, i think is aw soemone
mentioning that catherine wheel thingy... but anyways, there is a
brand spanking new Church album out, it seems it was an ausralian
import here ( but at $12, it seemed a baragin, if its a real Aussie
import ).  I had no clue this was coming out right now, so if anyone
was wondering, it certainly is.  and its darn cool! it is called
'magician among the spirits'... it is on deep karma/white, whoever
they are, and is distributed by Mushrooom ( as some may expect ).  and
it contains a steve harley cover song 'ritz' if that measn anything to
anyone.  10 tracks, 66 minutes - they do specify a mailing list and a web
site, and an address to steve kilbey and says ' but don't expect a
response' ! ok then :) its nice that peter koppes is back in there :)

ok, so for those who need etails of thioos c.w. v-sides compilation,
here are some - i guess it was supposed ot be out this past wek or so,
and is now moved to august?
well, its not like anyone who actually bought their ep's is really
going to find too much new. it doesn't go before 'crank'.
the tracks are :

heal 2  ( ? sounds familiar, a new-ish b-side? i haven't paid
attention to their new output... )
wish you were here ( show me mary promo )
mouthful of air ( s.m.m 12", also on a fontana promo cd )
car
girl stand still ( both from s.m.m again...)
saccharine ( black metallic )
backwards guitar ( from some godawful new single, i saw that and
figured it was probably exactly what it states... )
tongue twisted ( bl. metallic ltd. cd single )
these four walls ( s.m.m. )
high heels ( s.m.m 12" , and that promo cd )
harder than i am ( i don't know of this one - sounds like a new title,
to go with their hard image :) )
la la la la la - crank

so, no 'dead girlfriend', and nothing from their first four or five
ep's.

is there any reason for these guys anymore?


as i checked through my stuff to see where these come from, i see
i have an extra crank 12" pic. disc.  with 'painful thing' and 'black
metallic' from peel in '91. anyone interested, send me a cash or trade
offer!

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:08:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Who manages this list, and where are they?


>I, too, am having trouble unsubscribing.  I manage a few lists of my own,
>so I'm familiar with the procedure, however, it doesn't seem to be
>working.

In almost all cases the solution is to change the "return address" field
in your mail program (assuming you're using a POP-based mail client like
Eudora or Claris Emailer) to the address the listserv thinks you're
subscribed under. Kit's mail was apparently going through a gateway that
automatically reset the return address, which is why it didn't work for
her. I set _my_ return address to her address and sent the signoff, and
it worked.
This does NOT mean I'm going to set myself up as an unsubscribe service
for everyone else who might be in this state! I just don't have the time.
Fortunately I think these days most people are using POP clients to read
their mail, and most people don't have weird gateways, so the standard
solution will work. If it doesn't you might want to speak with your own
mail administrator, who can use the technique discussed in the faq
(www.mooseyard.com/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html).

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:30:54 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Mazzy Questions


> They are playing in Amsterdam (Paradiso) on the 4th of July.

>They were to be playing on the Torhout/Werchter festival (on 5 th and 6 th of
>July),but those shows are canceled.I hate it!!


Today I discovered that also the concert in Amsterdam is canceled...

What the hell's wrong with Mazzy Star?


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 21, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:36:23 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Throwing Muses singles


Greetings fellow 4AD fans:
I am selling the following two Throwing Muses' singles:
"Not to Soon" [Sire/Warner Bros. 40135-2]
1) Not to Soon (album version)
2) Cry Baby Cry
3) Him Dancing (Remix)
4) Dizzy (Remix)
"Firepile E.P." (part two) [BAD D 2012 CD]
1) Firepile (Remix)
2) Jak
3) Ride Into the Sun
4) Handsome Woman

I realize that lately this list seems to be more a vehicle for commercial
transactions than for actual "discussion", and therefore thank all uninterested
parties for their patience.
As usual, interested parties should email me personally, NOT THE LIST.
--gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu)


Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:40:17 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Philip Glass recommendations


On 6/20/96 you wrote:

   >>>I think "Mishima" is his finest moment. Incredibly dramatic; a    m
  mixture of full orchestra with percussion, large string ensemble, and
  string quartet. A must-buy; if any of you don't like this I will
  personally drop by and whup you upside da haid*.<<

        Well, I can't argue with that...I suppose you've seen the movie,
eh? What a film. Ken Ogata's portrayal is very very moving as Yukio
Mishima rationalizes his death thru art. Fascinating stuff. (Ever read
anything by Mishima? What an incredible writer...one of the best...)
        Mishima's death was tragic, and yet somehow inspiring...he didn't
commit suicide for the usual reasons of personal weakness, he died out of
a commitment to his art and his purpose. I mean, okay, the guy was a
fascist, but he had cojones.

 Alex

Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:33:35 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Romeo is bleeding...


>>>Marvyn's TOP TEN movies (in no particular order)

   Akira

Seen 'Ghost in the Shell Yet'? Not as good as Akira..but it's THIS close....

   True Romance  (another great performance by Gary Oldman!)

Well, a great cameo anyway...

   Red/white/blue trilogy
   Romeo Is Bleeding
   Once Upon a Time in the West/Once Upon a Time in America  (anything by
Leone)
   Blade Runner
   anything by the Cohen brothers
   Powaqqatsi/Koyanisqatsi
   The Professional

Jean Reno is SOOO cool...and sensitive...oh so sensitive...
   Cool Hand Luke

   Maybe I should make that my top ten favorite writers or directors:

   Ethan/Alan Cohen
   Luc Besson
   Sergio Leone
   Ridley Scott
   Francis Ford Coppola

Hmm, have you seen the trailer for the Robin Williams movie he directed? Looks
like it's gonna be a BIG hit (pun intended, I am so damn clever...). I think
Francis is doing a little too much coke these days...

Quentin Tarantino (however you spell it)
     Kryszewwski (i know its misspelled--the czech guy who did the 3
     colors)

What about Akira Kurosawa? He's the MAN! Oh well....

On a slightly related musical note:
  Anyone have the AKIRA soundtrack by the Geinoh Yamashirogumi? It's
incredible...but it would be nice to find some of their other stuff. Anyone know
if it's available...?

  Alex


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:40 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: doom generation


I have only recently joined the list so apologies if this is old stuff..
found a copy of the soundtrack for Doom Generation with curve CT, catherine
wheel etc...
None of these look like orginals but was more curious about the movie never
heard... about it any info?

Bill B...


Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:45:00 -0700
From: Matt DeBellis (caruso@NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: The Doom Generation


Thats really ironic...that *is* an old post, but I *just* got finished watching 
he movie about 10
minutes ago.  The movie is a bout a threesome (2 guys, one girl) who are on the 
un...it really
doesn't have a plot, they kill some people, some sex, I did notice the Cocteau T
ins, Belly, NIN,
and Medicine in the movie.  There is a sex scene and Medicine "Slut" is playing 
n the backround.
  It fits pretty well.......


Matt


p.s. - I don't know how unreleased the music is, but i know the medicine song is
released, and the
belly song is a "Star" B-Side.


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