Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: Exclusively 4AD? (was: nearly god, nearly here)
Subject: Re: off-topic discussions [Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Subject: Re: off-topic discussions [Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins
Subject: nme web goods
Subject: breeders update
Subject: We Invite you....
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: a public service announcement re: CRADLE
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: time stereo/web goods
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: isn't remotely 4AD-ish...
Subject: infinite guitars
Subject: Re: curve = echobelly guy?
Subject: curve recommendation (belated)
Subject: Brasilia=Cabaret Voltaire & Sylvia Plath
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Richard Ashcroft?
Subject: DCD bootleg
Subject: DCD in ATL
Subject: Re: cindytalk tour-mpls query
Subject: Re: Michael Brook
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: dcd first album wanted
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins
Subject: m. brook + i. remotely
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: Re: Richard Ashcroft?
Subject: 4AD release dates?
Subject: Re: 4AD "after death"? and Michael Brook
Subject: Re: What I am listening to
Subject: not remotely 4AD-ish/Michael Brook
Subject: Delay Tambor: (seefeel, autechre, scanner, etc.)
Subject: Re: m. brook + i. remotely
Subject: Re: 4AD "after death"? and Michael Brook
Subject: Release Dates
Subject: Re: New Faith & Disease CD
Subject: Re: DCD bootleg
Subject: On Tour! PBS Show
Subject: 4AD/Dreampop Sale/Trade
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:54:27 GMT
At 00:54 6/19/96 +0000, you wrote:
>To anyone who's (luck enough to be) going to the Cocteau's gig in the US
>and planning to meet the band or just the off chance that you meet them
>etc.
>
>Pls. ask them how thay got hooked up with Faye Wong do to a song in their
>laters album. I'm just hell curious.
Well, if you had asked before you might have had a better chance to get this
info...I would have asked them in Atlanta when I met them...but hey, the
tour is half over. Maybe with luck you'll get your wish anyway. (If not, ask
them in "fan forum" on their website, which Robin & Simon check often.)
And speaking of tours, are there no Dead Can Dance fans on this 4 AD list?
I'm still awaiting info on whether they are coming to Atlanta and/or Miami
in August? Please if anyone knows, please e-mail me directly or post to this
list! I would really appreciate it. Really.
Thanks,
Carol Coney
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:16:19 +-200
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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Jason Curtis wrote:
> Michael Brook is also responsible for the design and concept of the =
> Infinite Guitar - which is the one he plays and which gives all those =
> great sonic twists.
> The Edge (U2) has been playing his guitars for years....
infinite guitar meaning that the pickup(s)
will sustain the last note(s) played infinitely
until the power turns off or another chord is
struck?
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:50:55 -0700
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, cz wrote:
> I agree that there should be an attempt to stay on-topic but i suppose
> each person's idea of "on-topic" tends to vary. I don't think exotic animals
"Each person's idea" shouldn't be an issue -- what matters is the topic as
defined by the charter or list FAQ list or whatever. (Though I'd prefer
to have this list a bit more ... "rigid" ... than the FAQ definition)
Mike
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:43:22 -0700
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
I'm not sure if "how on/off-topic is ____?" is on- or off-topic on this
particular list...
> Heffalump, [email protected] wrote:
> >With all due respect, I've always thought it should be a mailing list for
> >discussion about 4AD artists and bands specifically... [see the list name,
> No, things like that will happen no matter how rigid you make the list
> topic! I've seen the most narrowly-defined lists veer waaay off topic.
> It's just human nature.
I've been on lists before -- and one in particular now -- that's *very*
on-topic. Things do go off topic once in a while, but when that happens
the list maintainer and a few members will speak up about it, and people
will pull themselves back under control relatively quickly.
> Rigidly single-topic lists get boring. I've been on many single-band
...but isn't it *the* point of a mailing list to be literally on-topic? I
mean, that's the whole reason, isn't it? People want to discuss a
particular, defined topic rather than wade through the miscellaneous and
unsorted messages that fly through a place like alt.music.alternative or
what have you... they join a mailing list.
> lists (the Innocence Mission and the Cocteau Twins most recently) and the
> discussion just gets stale. I unsubbed from the CT list after the zillion
But this isn't a single artist list. There's no lack of subjects to
email around about even if we stay completely on-topic here. 4AD covers
*a lot*. If you include past 4AD artists and 4AD artist side-projects,
there's no end to the on-topic discussions we could have.
> 4AD's releases are starting to diverge pretty widely and it's harder than
Exactly.
> My current hypothesis is that it's the _people_ on a list, more than the
> topic, that make it interesting/valuable -- although you do need to have
My opinion is the direct opposite. I've got plenty of friends I send
email to... sometimes people who are on the same lists as I. We enjoy
each others' [email] company where appropriate, and keep the list to list
issues. I see what you're saying, but... well, the only thing I know
about the other people on this list is that they signed on to discuss 4AD
and related subjects. I can be 100% sure that 100% of the folks on the
list are OK [or claim to be OK] with receiving email about His Name is
Alive, but I can't be sure that they'll want to read about Noise Camp.
> with real life -- I choose my friends for their winning personalities
> more than for their musical tastes. I was on the ambient list for a while
Yeah, but I didn't sign up to make friends, necessarily. I signed up to
talk about music. I have met nice people here, certainly, but there are
plenty of other folks subscribed that I enjoy discussing list-stuff with,
who I wouldn't call "friends".
> That being said, I'd be very interested in taking the non-4AD content of
> this list and forking it into a new mailing list. (I just can't offer any
That's what I was hoping to do with discussion of the more ... esoteric
sides of Warren Defever's work, but it doesn't seem to have happened yet.
Mike
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:39:24 +1000
<[email protected]>
> Tricky -> samples David Sylvian, a very this-listy performer who
> used sleeve
> design by v23, recorded with Michael Brook, and was offered a This
> Mortal Coil
> guest spot.
> This Mortal Coil's 'Blood' also has a few pre-"trip-hop" dub dance tracks -
> "Loose Joints" being one that would fit very nicely next to a Tricky track.
What about...
Tricky -> recorded a few tracks, and produced a few others, with Whale
-> ...who covered Prince's Darling Nikki (b-side to "Pay For Me")
-> ...who wrote "Rasberry Beret"
-> ...covered by Warren Zevon and Michael Stipe,
-> ...Michael Stipe duets with Kirsten Hersh on "Your Ghost",
-> ...Kirsten Hersh is on 4AD
or
Tricky -> samples the same Issac Hayes sample as Portishead
-> ...whose "Sour Times" appears briefly on the soundtrack
of a Central Park West episode (the one where the gallery
owner dumps the sugar daddy she was having an affair with)
-> ... CPW is on the opposite side of Central Park to the
Dakota building
-> ...where Yoko Ono lives
-> ...who was married to John Lennon
-> ...who wrote "Happiness is a Warm Gun"
-> ...which is covered by the Breeders
-> ...who are (were) on 4AD.
Derby
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:27:42 -0400
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Steven Venn wrote:
> Aphex Twin & Phillip Glass Ensemble - Donkey Rhubarb
is this new? what's it like?
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:49:20 -0400
On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, C.K. Coney wrote:
> And speaking of tours, are there no Dead Can Dance fans on this 4 AD list?
> I'm still awaiting info on whether they are coming to Atlanta and/or Miami
> in August? Please if anyone knows, please e-mail me directly or post to this
> list! I would really appreciate it. Really.
>
im a rabid dcd fan. here's the dates from their site.
looks like youre gonna have to drive for a while.
but they _did_ do atlanta last tour, and skipped
lots of the midwest... well, here they are:
july 10 philadelphia keswick theatre
july 11 wash dc warner theatre
july 13-14 montreal maisonneuve theatre
july 17 nyc city centre
july 19 boston harborlights festival
july 21 ann arbor michigan theatre
july 22 cleveland lakewood civic theatre
july 24 chicago riviera
july 25 minneapolis orpheum
...?
july 30 santa fe paolo soleri amphitheatre
aug 1 boulder theatre
aug 2 salt lake city kingsbuy theatre
aug 5 seattle paramount
aug 6 portland paramount (does pdx have a
paramount?-joe)
aug 7 vancouver bc orpheum
aug 9 berkeley greek theatre
aug 10 los angeles universal amphitheatre
aug 11 san diego humphrey
aug 14 dallas majestic theatre
aug 15 houston cullen aud
then...
aug 21 sao paulo bra olympia
aug 22 rio de janeiro bra morra da urca
aug 25 buenos aires agr rock club
aug 29-30
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:38:36 -0400
i just pulled this off from http://www.nme.uk.co/
kinda makes me ill.
COCTEAU TWINS will play the opening night of Lollapalooza after a
surprisepersonal request from headlininers METALLICA, who claim to
be ardent fans. TheCocteaus also headline the NME Stage at T In The
Park on July 14, as wellas releasing a new single 'Violaine' on July
1. The release features two newtracks, 'Tranquil Eye' and
'Alice',featured in the latest Bernardo Bertoluccifilm, Stealing Beauty.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:27:01 -0400
culled from www.nme.uk.co...
breeders breeders
THE BREEDERS' 'will-they-won't-they-get -together-again' saga
continued this weekwith news that Kim Deal has cancelled a series of
News - BREEDERS (s2 of 6)
Amps dates, including Irishsupport slots with the Sex Pistols, to
concentrate on working with her originaloutfit. In NME last week,
her sister Kelley Deal said there was noguarantee The Breeders would
work together again and that nobody would "give ashit" if they never
again put out anything new. The Amps and Breeders' recordlabel, 4AD,
said the The Breeders situation was "up in the air".
"We don't really know what is going on, but Kelley's comments last
week may havebeen simple conjecture. A Breeders album could possibly
come out without Kelley.It does not need Kelley to make it a
Breeders album. It's unfortunate that gigshave been cancelled
because they are all very high-profile dates, but that's theway it
goes." The cancelled Amps dates are T In The Park (July 14),
Belfast,supporting the Pistols (17), Dublin Point, supporting the
Pistols (18), DublinMean Fiddler (19), Phoenix Festival (20) and
London Highbury Garage
Date: 18 Jun 1996 21:32:08 EST
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:06:39 -0500
Well, I joined this list to talk about what life was like 4 years after the
death of Christ. Its sure been a disappointing 3 years. I'm so mad I may
unsubscribe in the next year or two!
marvyn
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:57:10 ES
Sleeps with the Fishes, while an import to the US, is still fairly easy to
get.
Tower has been known to order it from time to time. And if you live in
Atlanta,
I know of two places in L5P that tend to keep it in stock.
Marc
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:29:43 -0500
>On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Jason Curtis wrote:
>
>> Michael Brook is also responsible for the design and concept of the =
>> Infinite Guitar - which is the one he plays and which gives all those =
>> great sonic twists.
>> The Edge (U2) has been playing his guitars for years....
>
>
>
> infinite guitar meaning that the pickup(s)
> will sustain the last note(s) played infinitely
> until the power turns off or another chord is
> struck?
the infinite guitar is like taking an e-bow(an electronic bow that makes a
string vibrate indefinitely) and building it into your guitar, but with one
for each string. he also co-wrote and played on the soundtrack for the
movie "captive" with the edge(including the first apperance of sinead
o'connor). it is a cool, ambient sort of record w/only one vocal
track(sinead). the movie itself is kind of odd, kind of cool(rich girl is
kidnapped by political terrorists and converted). the last interview i saw
said that brook and the edge are the only owners of the infinite guitar(the
edge's being a gift from brook). wish i had one...:^( i'll just have to
settle for my e-bow
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[email protected]
[email protected]
http://www.channel1.com/users/humgiant
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:06:58 -0400
(this is cross-posted to MBV-L for the benefit of as large an audience as
possible)
Hiya! :)
as long as we're off-topic (as usual):
CRADLE - BABA YAGA (Ultimate UK; ULTCD 042)
the latest project from Terry (House of Love/Levitation) Bickers.
Where is it that this album goes so wrong? Maybe it's because there are 10
(unofficial) Commandments of Ethereal/Shoegaze/Snorepop Music, and Cradle
don't appear to be familiar with any of them.
I. Thou shant let your female vocalist suggest nightmarish visions of
Jefferson Starship and the Banshees.
Ia. if you do, don't make her vocals so upfront in the recording.
II. When thou changest chords, approach thine changes with some degree of
reason and (/or) logic - and try more than two chords.
III. Thou shall not stretch the flimsiest ideas into 5-8 minute songs,
especially when there's barely enough there for a minute-long interlude.
IV. Thou shall keep thine vocalist in the background if she sounds likes
Eliza Doolittle's (pre-Henry Higgins) less eloquent younger cousin
IVa. any vocalist that had to be dug out of a grave isn't worth the trouble.
IVb. if you still insist on letting someone like Caroline Tree sing, invest
in a vocal lesson or two.
V. If thou art trying to rip off Slowdive ("Home"), use FX pedals. They cost
money, but they give some needed texture and interest to even the blandest
strum... strum... strumming.
VI. NEVER name a song "The Clangers & The Moomins" unless you want to be
laughed at.
VII. Songs generally need three things: beginnings, middles, and endings.
It's not wise to record 11 songs which lack even ONE of these essential
parts.
VIII. If thine guitarist is skilled and talented, don't give him Mel Bay
that he can wield a mean axe... why waste him on chords and (negligible)
riffs that would embarrass the Ramones?
IX. 16:09 ("Chloe's Room") is an awful long time to play withst thineself -
let alone to make people listen as you wank away. Unless all the members of
your band are utterly tone-deaf, there's no explanation for how this
tuneless/aimless/pointless excuse for music escaped from the studio.
IXa. ambient music requires AMBIENCE - not ambivalence and not
ambiguousness.
X. If thou shall choose to ignore rules 1-9, PLEASE don't release your album.
Hope I've saved someone the trouble of bothering with this fillet-of-shit.
Does anyone disagree? Maybe I'm just missing something here...
GuerillaG
XI. thou shalt immediately confine this wretched cd to the used/worthless
pile
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:51:00 +0200
>Here's a trivia tidbit for you Michael Brook fans
>(and I live in Toronto and I remember):
>
>Michael Brook used to be a member of the
>Toronto new wave band Martha and the Muffins
>Ironically Michael is at the peak of his career
>whereas Mark Gane and Martha Stewart
>who later became M+M, are doing nothing.
Brook didn't play on any M+M album! And I suppose you mean Martha Johnson,
not Martha Stewart. I've dug out all my old M+M LP's and singles and I can't
find Brook's name anywhere!
The line-up on the first two LPs, 'Metro Music' (1980) and 'Trance & Dance'
(1980) is: Carl Finke, Mark Gane, Tim Gane, Andy Haas, Martha Johnson,
Martha Ladly.
And on the (still brilliant) 3rd LP, 'This Is The Ice Age' (1981), Carl
Finke and Martha Ladly are replaced by Jocelyne and Daniel Lanois. THE
Daniel Lanois. He also did the production (or 'produktion', as Peter Saville
spelled it in those days).
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
+++++++++++++++++++
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:35:05 -0400
my warren influenced rethinking of the beach boys found
me surfing the net for more info on pet sounds sessions.
came up with this strange commentary by brian wilson
published in melody maker in 1966. synchronicity?
October 8, 1966
This is an interview (of sorts) with Brian Wilson printed in Melody
Maker on October 8, 1966.
_________________________________________________________________
ALBUM
Our next album will be better than "Pet Sounds". It will be as much an
improvement over "Sounds" as that was over "Summer Days".
_________________________________________________________________
RECORDING STUDIO
My recording studio has become a castle, with a wing for everyone.
_________________________________________________________________
TIME
Time is fine when it's in cadence.
_________________________________________________________________
STEREO
I can't enjoy stereo much, I'm deaf in one ear.
_________________________________________________________________
EAR
The right one.
_________________________________________________________________
DRUGS
An underground train.
_________________________________________________________________
PATRIOTISM
Beer and brass bands.
_________________________________________________________________
LYRICS
Let's make them all free-form, so we don't get hung up on making
rhymes.
_________________________________________________________________
DRUG SONGS
There are myriad of drug songs on the pop music market today. I don't
know which they are.
_________________________________________________________________
MIRROR
Have you tried the mirror technique of subconsciousness? I'm reading a
book about it - I'm fascinated by the mind and hypnosis and things
_________________________________________________________________
CAR
One day everyone will sit up in his car and fall out to the groovy
sounds of cartridge tapes. Do I sound like a commercial?
_________________________________________________________________
etc.... so much for heffalump
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:30:54 -0500
>Well, I joined this list to talk about what life was like 4 years after the
>death of Christ. Its sure been a disappointing 3 years. I'm so mad I may
>unsubscribe in the next year or two!
>
>marvyn
i believe in the year 4 A.D. Christ would have been 4 and a long way from
being dead. you've got 30 or so years to go...
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[email protected]
[email protected]
http://www.channel1.com/users/humgiant
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:26:21 +0930
u>
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, dan k. wrote:
> > >I'm curious about what other listies play in regular roation on
> > >their stereos that isn't remotely 4AD-ish...
> > >
> > >Jeff Keibel,
> > >Toronto, ON
> > >CANADA
>
A-HA - Hunting High And Low
Bailterspace - Vortura
PiL - Metal Box
Weather Report - Night Passage
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:07:52 ES
I had heard that there were three. Brook's, Edge's, and some guy from the Far
East.
I think he was associated with Peter Gabriel, but I'm not sure on this.
M
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:30:21 +0930
On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Roy Burns wrote:
> >>btw. is curve's guitarist in _echobelly_.. thought i saw the guy in MTV
> yesterday....<<
>
> Yes, but she is not a guy.
>
Sort of off the topic , but did Curve have , at one stage , some
really young dude who played guitar ?? I can remember reading something
and seeing a kid who looked like 13 - 14 yrs old playing guitar in one
of their filmclips ...
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:25:47 -0500
Just as a pointer, fans of Curve shoule give a listen to Freaky Chakra's
"Lowdown Motivator", which features Toni's vocals on the rather Curve-y
"Budded on Earth to Bloom in Heaven". The remainder of the album is
outstanding westcoast trance techno, with good track sequencing, and
engaging from beginning to end.
d s roy
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:50:41 -0400
Howdy All;
i hope to find someone who can clue me in about what was the inspiration
for Cabaret Voltaire to come up with the song "Brasilia."
just in case we have an expert on Sylvia Plath, there is also a poem by
her with the same title. anyone knows what prompted Sylvia and
the guys from CV to name their work after the so called "City of
The Future"? has any of them ever been to Brasilia, or Brazil?
thanx for any help, and please, mail me privately. i don't think most
people will find the subject "thislist." :p
J.Henrique.R.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:06:41 -0700
Steven Venn:
>Ironically Michael is at the peak of his career
>whereas Mark Gane and Martha Stewart
>who later became M+M, are doing nothing.
Mark Gane is now in Stereolab, and Martha Stewart is everyone's favorite
interior decorator with her own magazine and TV show.
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:45:56 -0500
That's what a sticker said on my copy of Cobalt Blue,
I could be wrong on that. But that's what it said.
Steve
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"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
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-Jude from Hal Hartley's
"Surviving Desire"
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:21:59 -0600
>>any lisa germano fans here
>
>>just got the re release of happiness
>>beautiful
>
>>does anyone have more info on her?
>
>I'm a new fan. I just got her 4AD version of Happiness and really like it. Are
>you referring to the 4AD version or the Capital version? I almost wish I'd
>waited and bought the Capital version since it has that killer Nancy Sinatra
>song on it "These Boots Were Made For Walkin'". Oh well, I guess I'll have to
>buy both. :)
>From my experience, the Capitol version of that cd is difficult to find.
I've only seen two copies ever. But...I have an extra copy if anyone is
interested. E-mail me personally.
Thanks,
Taylor
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:00:27 +0000
i noticed that there was a one-page article on michael brook in the latest
(i think) Option magazine. i thought someone may want to know....
tony
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:05:18 +-200
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He also added a track from Cobalt Blue on the soundtrack to HEAT.
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>On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Jason Curtis wrote:
>
>> Michael Brook is also responsible for the design and concept of the =
>> Infinite Guitar - which is the one he plays and which gives all those =
>> great sonic twists.
>> The Edge (U2) has been playing his guitars for years....
>
>
>
> infinite guitar meaning that the pickup(s)
> will sustain the last note(s) played infinitely
> until the power turns off or another chord is
> struck?
the infinite guitar is like taking an e-bow(an electronic bow that makes a
string vibrate indefinitely) and building it into your guitar, but with one
for each string. he also co-wrote and played on the soundtrack for the
movie "captive" with the edge(including the first apperance of sinead
o'connor). it is a cool, ambient sort of record w/only one vocal
track(sinead). the movie itself is kind of odd, kind of cool(rich girl is
kidnapped by political terrorists and converted). the last interview i saw
said that brook and the edge are the only owners of the infinite guitar(the
edge's being a gift from brook). wish i had one...:^( i'll just have to
settle for my e-bow
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:25:46 -0700
On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Alan Daniel wrote:
> i'm really going to miss that guy and
> his music.
Huh!? What the hell happened to him??? Last I heard was Verve reformed
without the guitar player. Did he die or something?? :(
e
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:51:58 -0700
First off, who was the lame-o who sent an old February digest to
everyone? That was very annoying.
I found a bootleg CD of DCD called "Influences of the Middle East" or
something like that. Not too bad of quality though it fades out and in on
one song. But it has four tracks I've not heard elsewhere as well as an
earlier version of Rakim. Anyone else have this?
matthew
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:21:31 ES
Dead Can Dance will be performing on August 17, at Symphony Hall in Atlanta.
I believe tickets go on sale in July.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:13:14 -0700
Deanna Phillips
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:15:41 -0700
very cute...
but, you forgot to mention that Mark is also going out with a French
chick...whoooooah!
Anyone heard the new Lisa Germano? I just got a copy yesterday and
interested in opinions.
>Steven Venn:
>>Ironically Michael is at the peak of his career
>>whereas Mark Gane and Martha Stewart
>>who later became M+M, are doing nothing.
>
>Mark Gane is now in Stereolab, and Martha Stewart is everyone's favorite
>interior decorator with her own magazine and TV show.
>
>[Insert smileys as appropriate]
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:22:09 -0500
Doesn't "AD" mean "after death"? :\ I guess you learn something new everyday
marvyn
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:16:54 +0000
>>>any lisa germano fans here
>>
>>>just got the re release of happiness
>>>beautiful
>>
>>>does anyone have more info on her?
>>
>>I'm a new fan. I just got her 4AD version of Happiness and really like it.
>>Are
>>you referring to the 4AD version or the Capital version? I almost wish I'd
>>waited and bought the Capital version since it has that killer Nancy Sinatra
>>song on it "These Boots Were Made For Walkin'". Oh well, I guess I'll have to
>>buy both. :)
>
>From my experience, the Capitol version of that cd is difficult to find.
>I've only seen two copies ever. But...I have an extra copy if anyone is
>interested. E-mail me personally.
>
>Thanks,
>Taylor
i think i know where to get a copy of the capitol version too if anyone
wants it.
tony
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:23:19 -0700
>>Well, I joined this list to talk about what life was like 4 years after the
>>death of Christ. Its sure been a disappointing 3 years. I'm so mad I may
>>unsubscribe in the next year or two!
>>
>>marvyn
>
>
>i believe in the year 4 A.D. Christ would have been 4 and a long way from
>being dead. you've got 30 or so years to go...
No _wonder_ marvyn hasn't heard any info about it then. This certainly
clears up a lot of problems for me.
Jake
Who gets to write Web pages instead of paying parking tickets
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:18:05 -0700
I recently misplaced Dead Can Dance's self-titled first album and was wondering
if anyone has an extra copy they would like to sell? Please email me directly
Jon Drahn
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:16:00 GMT
At 11:49 6/19/96 +0000, you wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, C.K. Coney wrote:
>
>> And speaking of tours, are there no Dead Can Dance fans on this 4 AD list?
>> I'm still awaiting info on whether they are coming to Atlanta and/or Miami
>> in August? Please if anyone knows, please e-mail me directly or post to this
>> list! I would really appreciate it. Really.
>>
>
>
> im a rabid dcd fan. here's the dates from their site.
> looks like youre gonna have to drive for a while.
> but they _did_ do atlanta last tour, and skipped
> lots of the midwest... well, here they are:
>
>
> july 10 philadelphia keswick theatre
> july 11 wash dc warner theatre
> july 13-14 montreal maisonneuve theatre
> july 17 nyc city centre
> july 19 boston harborlights festival
> july 21 ann arbor michigan theatre
> july 22 cleveland lakewood civic theatre
> july 24 chicago riviera
> july 25 minneapolis orpheum
> ...?
> july 30 santa fe paolo soleri amphitheatre
> aug 1 boulder theatre
> aug 2 salt lake city kingsbuy theatre
> aug 5 seattle paramount
> aug 6 portland paramount (does pdx have a
> paramount?-joe)
> aug 7 vancouver bc orpheum
> aug 9 berkeley greek theatre
> aug 10 los angeles universal amphitheatre
> aug 11 san diego humphrey
> aug 14 dallas majestic theatre
> aug 15 houston cullen aud
>
> then...
> aug 21 sao paulo bra olympia
> aug 22 rio de janeiro bra morra da urca
> aug 25 buenos aires agr rock club
> aug 29-30
>
Hi, and thank you,
I did see this list on their website, but also saw another list that DID
list Atlanta & Miami on Aug 19 & 20...but maybe they decided to rest before
heading out of country. Do you know if this list that you sent me is the
definitive, final list of tour dates? Should I be hoping against hope that
they'll reconsider Atlanta or Miami? Or should I hustle on back to DC for
the July 11 show, which was already selling fast when I was up there June 9
for CT?
Please let me know what you would if you were me, and considering I too
am a rabid DCD fan!
And thank you so much for replying!
Peace,
Carol Coney
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:23:14 -0700
1.
I have a question. Pardon if it's already been covered as I am only
halfway through my mail, but I think it's safe to assume it hasn't been
brough up.
I have come to adore Brook's first album, Hybrid, and now classify it
with The Shutov Assembly and Lovely Thunder on the second tier under the
Holy Trinity of the OnLand/Fishes/Pearl axis. It is a seriously beautiful
album. The thing is, I find Cobalt Blue a bit annoying. Nice, but of an
atmosphere I find neither inspiring nor very attractive. Hybrid is a
totally different style.
What I'd like to know is how much Live at the Aquarium, and the 1989
performance released more recently on Sine Records, resemble either
Hybrid or Cobalt Blue, if either. I'm inclined to hope that the Sine
release is closer to Hybrid and perhaps comprised mostly of that album's
material, but I'd appreciate a track listing for either live album or
any comments abou comparative styles, etc.
For that matter, didn't Sine also release an Eno live album recorded at
the same festival? How is it and what did he play?
2.
Weird how so many listservs I'm on are doing offtopic lists and blabbing
about ontopicness/offtopicness. I mean it's happening a lot all of a
sudden. Wilder my friend, what the hell are you doing listening to
lovesliescrushing?? I suppose you have to balance the rest of that stuff
somehow, eh? :) Who exactly is/are Rise and Fall of a Decade?
Anyway, here's mine...
Brian Eno - The Shutov Assembly ...possibly better than On Land
Locust - Weathered Well ...long learning curve but incredible
Techsteppin ...drum n bass comp, very nice
Gak ...old Aphex Twin shit; awesome
mu-Ziq - In Pine Effect ...still getting used to this
Squarepusher - Feed Me Weird Things ...just got it, what the fuck??
Modula Green - Shellground ...as always
Black Dog Productions - Bytes ...as always
Analog Heaven ...cool old acid sampler i dug up
Mazzy Star ...yes i do still make myself listen to guitar music
Spacetime Continuum - Sea Biscuit ...gorgeously bubbly beatful ambient
Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich ...album of the year?
Orbital - In Sides ...i kinda wore this one out! :(
Blech ...lame Warp mix tape but my portable cd is brokedick
Sarband - Red Book of Montserrat ...best choral/medieval i ever heard
Cold Storage - Wipeout soundtrack ...wack dance music, rocks
FSOL - Lifeforms ...always dependable
Jake Slazenger - Makesaracket ...mu-Ziq sings Fat Albert? WOO!! *bleep*
David Moufang - Solitaire ...not really but it's the thought that counts
Tarnation ...the way, the truth, the light...
3.
Good night, almost.
e
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:37:27 EDT
This whole AD discussion reminds me of the fact that the last time I looked at
the 4AD FAQ, I could have sworn that it said 4AD came from the word Forward. I
thought I read an interview somewhere where Ivo or someone said that 4AD stood
for "For a Day" because he didn't think the label was going to be around very
long. Can someone elaborate?
Barry
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:48:58 -0700
Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:22:09 -0500
> Doesn't "AD" mean "after death"? :\ I guess you learn
> something new everyday
Nope, Anno Domini (in the year of our lord). Supposedly since the birth of
Jesus but i think they goofed that up by a few years. At first i thought that
4AD (the record label) was named after the correct birth year but i think it's
actually 4BC. (and we all know that Christmas isn't his birthday either, don't
we?) But this is all irrelevant since it has nothing to do w/ anything.
Sorry for the brief diversion.
-cz
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:50:40 -0500
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Alan Daniel wrote:
>
> > i'm really going to miss that guy and
> > his music.
>
> Huh!? What the hell happened to him??? Last I heard was Verve reformed
> without the guitar player. Did he die or something?? :(
>
>
> e
>
the verve has reformed, without their guitarist(i don't remember his
name). i believe the group's name is sensation. there's supposed to
be some material coming out later this summer. what it's going to
sound like, i have no clue.
jason
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:40:23 -0500
Has anyone noticed how elusive this year's release dates are???
The 4AD web site gives only a vague idea of when the new albums are coming
out. And the release dates I've seen elsewhere are all different for each
CD. Example: Some info cited the DCD release date as Jun 18, and some as
Jun 24.
If anyone can give me actual dates of the following, I would be most
HIS NAME IS ALIVE (Is Universal Frequencies coming out domestically??)
HIS NAME IS ALIVE Stars on ESP
HEIDI BERRY
LISA GERMANO
THROWING MUSES pre-album EP (for Shark??)
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you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before"
-Dead Kennedys
john b. jones [email protected]
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:20:10 -0500
OOPS!
Also there were two Marthas in Martha and the Muffins,
one being Martha Stewart (not the interior
decoration/entertaining woman and all 'round
antichrist) who went on to form M+M.
Sorry It should be Martha Johnson and Martha Ladley.
Martha Stewart is the interior decoration/entertaining
woman and all 'round antichrist...but not a member
of M+M sorry...
***********************************************************
You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:
Atelier Design Communications
Steven Venn, b.f.a. - Graphic Designer
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1
(905) 884-2601
"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
and spout universal truths without qualification!"
-Jude from Hal Hartley's
"Surviving Desire"
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:03:52 -0500
>On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Steven Venn wrote:
>
>> Aphex Twin & Phillip Glass Ensemble - Donkey Rhubarb
>
>
> is this new? what's it like?
Not too new, last year or so.
I t has a version of an Aphex Twin song performed
by Phillip Glass in a string arrangement. It is
very different to hear Aphex Twin performed
in this way. I would pick it up if you can find
it. Its bound to be a collector cd mini-ep in
the next few years. I have it on tape from
a friend, so I'm not sure of who puts it out.
Steve
***********************************************************
You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:
Atelier Design Communications
Steven Venn, b.f.a. - Graphic Designer
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1
(905) 884-2601
"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
and spout universal truths without qualification!"
-Jude from Hal Hartley's
"Surviving Desire"
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:36:59 -0400
>>I'm curious about what other listies play in regular roation on
>>their stereos that isn't remotely 4AD-ish...
Harold Budd - Lovely Thunder
Can - Tago Mago
Pram - Meshes
Labradford - A Stable Reference
The Telescopes - [untitled]
Stars of the Lid - Music for Nitrous Oxide
V/A - Folds and Rhizomes for Gilles Deleuze
Lilys - Eccsame the Photon Band
>Michael Brook used to be a member of the
>Toronto new wave band Martha and the Muffins
>who had a few hits, the biggest being Echo Beach.
I've heard he was in the band too, but I haven't been able to confirm this.
There was one of those where-are-they-now features on the band in Q a while
ago but no mention of Michael Brook at all. If he *was* in the band, I
suspect it would have been towards the end, not during the Echo Beach days.
Larry
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:09:42 -0400
I just have the track listing of the last silvania cd "Delay
Tambor", which includes silvania's songs played in different versions
by some ambient luminaries like Kseefeel, autechre, scanner Getc.
The new disc also includes 3 new songs by Silvania.
So here is the track listing -taken from a spanish zine, Spiral-:
01: Eesal
02: Ov : Locust mx
03: Ry I : Scorn mx
04: 3lc : Seefeel mx
05: ArAng : Scanner mx
06: Bengala
07: LBelm : Autechre mx
08: Arqueopteryx
Most of the songs are from "En Cielo de Oceano": Ov = Oval,
3lc = Trilce, ArAng = Arcangel, LBelm = Un bosque en la memoria.
And one from "Paisaje III": Ry I = Raymi I.
The others are the new silvania's songs.
The cover versions are supposed to be in radical diferent
versions than they appeared on the silvania's discs.
About the 3 new tracks the Spiral's writer says:
"...now their soul has changed to the investigation, the
search, and even an evident hedonist side that they're going
to continue exploiting -see the new maxi "Galax Trax"-. I also
believe that Mario and Coco (*) have learnt that is preferable
to fascinate and to result interestings, juicys,
unforgettables, to leave a trace more creative than
sentimental."
-(*): Mario and Coco are Silvania.
Just to say that if you have a doubt about what i was telling
you about silvania all the time, seefeel, autechre and the other
great bands that appears on Delay Tambor help me to continue saying:
You really should hear the Silvania's exquisite beauty.
You really should.
Regards.
Wilder.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:38:03 -0400
>
> 2.
>
> Weird how so many listservs I'm on are doing offtopic lists and blabbing
> about ontopicness/offtopicness. I mean it's happening a lot all of a
> sudden. Wilder my friend, what the hell are you doing listening to
> lovesliescrushing?? I suppose you have to balance the rest of that stuff
> somehow, eh?
I don't think that to listen llc and slowdive -forgot to
name them-, silvania or even eno, sp*, spacetime continuum, e.a.r.
etc. be a weird thing. Dear "e" you really surprise me with that
question. Is so innecesary -for not to use another words- like if I
ask you "what the hell you are on the 4AD-L listening spacetime,
mu-ziq, locust, etc.??".
lovesliescrushing are really mindblowing and their cd
bloweyelashwish is for me on the top of the shoegazers and/or ethereal
noise discs. I love lovesliescrushing.
>
They're a band from Hyperium Records.
They're influenced by the hesitated rythms of the shoegazing,
and from two great bands: Eyeless in Gaza and Cocteau Twins. And use
too lots of classical instrumentations.
Rise and Fall of a Decade has 3 cds out, I just have two of
Both really great.
Regards.
Wilder.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:04:18 -0500
>Doesn't "AD" mean "after death"? :\ I guess you learn something new everyday
>
>marvyn
It means "anno domini". My latin is nada so I can't translate. Anyone?
4AD
How did Ivo come up with this name, btw?
Oh and Tim Gane is in Stereolab no relation
to Mark Gane from M+M. Also there were
two Marthas in Martha and the Muffins,
one being Martha Stewart (not the interior
decoration/entertaining woman and all 'round
antichrist) who went on to form M+M.
So has anyone found any info to disprove
the Cobalt Blue sticker that says that Michael
Brook was a member of Martha and the Muffins?
I am going to do some websurfing in that regard.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:23:23 -0400
The following are UK Release Dates. US dates will usually be within 2 weeks
of the UK ones.
June 17 Dead Can Dance - Spiritchaser
June 24 His Name Is Alive - Stars on ESP
July 15 Lush - 500
July 29 Throwing Muses - Shark
August12 Lisa Germano - Small Heads
Aug 19 Pixies - Debaser
Aug 19 Throwing Muses - Limbo
mid Aug Heidi Berry - Miracle
Sept 9 Lisa Germano - Excerpts from a Love Circus
Sept 9 Gus Gus - Cold Breath '79
Sept 16 Pixies
Sept The Paladins
Of course, these dates are not set in stone, however they are pretty close.
Lush will continue to tour. Paladins will always be touring. and His Name
Is Alive will do multiple tours.
enjoy
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:33:08 -0700
Hello Ivy Records:
Yes, please send me info on how to obtain these (and more) titles.
Thanks,
Mary
>Ivy Records June releases:
>-The third full-length CD by Seattle's Faith & Disease is now avaiable.
>Seattle and on tour. Also included are "anomaly" tracks; previously
>unreleased studio tracks and live tracks from 1992-94.-The debut CD by Ninth
>Circle is also out. "Ninth Circle" features male and female harmonies,
>guitars and keyboards. Perfectly recorded morose dream-pop in the vein of
>perhaps early Clan of Xymox and "From the Hilltop" era Section 25.
>
>More info on how to obtain these (and more) titles? e-mail us.
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:31:47 -0400
i have the "influences" bootleg. it is basically the same line up as "gothic
spleens" but i think spleens is the better recording
todd sanders