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Subject: Dead Can Dance press release
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:46:23 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Who came off the bus Pt. 2 / Critical Mass
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:24:27 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:16:05 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:51:12 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: 27/05/96 01:07
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: 17/06/96 12:00
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:11:23 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: new red house painters
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:51:03 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:11:03 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:05:22 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD for sale!
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:11:27 -0400
From: Dumpo712cd@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:27:46 -0700
From: "C. Kemnitz" (cz@u.washington.edu)
Subject: Matthew Fletcher R.I.P. : {
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: TweeKid@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:37:53 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: lisa germano
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:47:32 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Pixies '88 video for trade
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:07:43 -0600
From: Taylor Baumgartner (lee@CHE.CHE.TULANE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tokyo Salamander
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:33:22 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: record stores in london
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:05:08 -0700
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:44:08 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:05:15 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: off-topic discussions [Re: nearly god, nearly here?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:53:45 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: record stores in london
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:25:33 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:06:34 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: his name is alive/prolapse flexi - music stores in japan
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:37:14 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)

Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:46:23 -0700
From: Jeff Keibel (redshift@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Dead Can Dance press release


The following is a press release from 4AD via Dead Can Dance's
Canadian distributer, Mercury/Polydor, who do a super fine job,
by the way!

DEAD CAN DANCE EXPLORING NEW SOUNDS WITH SPIRITCHASER

The mesmeric sound that opens up Dead Can Dance's seventh studio
album is not instantly identifiable.  It could be a percussive
instrument, or a sample, it could be a studio-treated didgeridoo --
anything, in fact, out of the instrumental world.  In truth, it's a
bullroarer, a sculpted piece of wood attached to a rope that you
swing over your head, then sampled and played through a keyboard.
The "original" vs "sampled", there is no distinction anymore, no
boundaries, essentially no difference.  It really doesn't matter.
What matters is the spirit.

Similarly, Dead Can Dance's 15-year pattern of working within an
expansive, quixotic musical diaspora should no longer be broken down
into "when" and "where".  Since 1981, when Australian duo Brendan
Perry and Lisa Gerrard moved to London to begin their musical
vocation, the pair have called on traditions such as neo-classical,
choral, baroque and troubadour, from both liturgical and secular
origins, under a new world planetarium spanning western and eastern
Europe, the Middle East, Asia, North Africa, the Mediterranean and
beyond.  Everywhere has either been a colony, or now feels the
residual effects of colonial cultures moving back to the "motherland".

In Dead Can Dance's music, "ethnic"  has become an almost meaningless
musical category.

The time-spanning, genre-and geography-defying spirit is one that has
mesmerised people worldwide, as each of their albums have sold to a
progressively larger audience.  The epic emotional drama of their work
has also come to the attention of the art, film and TV worlds too;
those who have mined the Dead Can Dance catalogue include diverse
motion pictures such as Heat, The Crossing Guard and Baraka.
Numerous musicians have sampled their work; the dance field (Future
Sound Of London and Black Grape, to name two) are especially attuned
to the duo's vivid vistas.

That spirit is continually bound up both in Perry and Gerrard's
extraordinarily affecting voices, and in the continually changing
face of Dead Can Dance's music.  On Spiritchaser, there is another
shift, away from the distinct Gaelic qualities of 1993's Into The
Labyrinth.  But- to these ears at least -- a track like "The Snake
And The Moon" on the new record has definite South American
influences; Gerrard hears African.  "It's gone past the point of
being 'this' and 'that' ," she affirms.  "Music has come to a
new age, where we're exposed to music from all over the world, from
a much larger palate of colours, as opposed to just what was
available in the 50s and 60s.  Our music has taken on an identity of
itself.  A track like "Nierika" sounds like "Frontier",
the very first piece Brendan and I ever wrote together, at the age
of 16 or 17, before we'd heard any African music."

Perry suggests that Dead Can Dance music tends to mirror that the pair
are listening to, or have been researching -- he in his converted
church in Ireland (where Spiritchaser was written and recorded),
and Lisa in the remote Gippsland region of Southern Australia.  Perry
admits he has been listening to South American music, largely from
Chile and Peru, but that the roots to Spiritchaser are based in
rhythm.

delving into areas that we had worked in before, so we made a
conscious decision to move away from that.  We decided to set
ourselves limitations in terms of instrumentation, to work from
the basis of purely rhythmical means, and develop from there.
I've been doing a lot of percussion workshops and doing sessions
with friends, and invariably we'd come back to the studio and have
up to fifteen people playing percussion, just to entertain ourselves,
and some great ideas were generated from that .  We subsequently
put down a week's worth of percussion, from which 'Nierika' and
"Dedicace Outo' come."

The latter, a brief, trance pattern, is based on a Vodun rhythm from
Haiti (Outo is "the spirit of the drums").  "The Song Of The Stars"
begins with words taken from an Algonquin Indian poem, and ends with
words from a Vodun invocation.  Elsewhere, Dead Can Dance traverse
the planet .  The words to "Song Of The Dispossessed" are Perry's,
adopting a traditional Latin melody to address the eternal problem
of people, "whose lives have been changed for the worse".  Sometimes
the nature of a song comes from its incidental inspiration.  "The
Song Of The Nile" is so named because it features the sound of real
crickets from the Nile, while Perry and Gerrard agree that the
track, once completed, suggests a river journey, "with rhythms of
someone pushing a pole through the water, or a marsh."  "Nierika",
which opens the album, is an Inuit term for the paths between the
underworld, middle world and higher world that shamen travel,
inspired by the "running dogs" sound that they felt was Sami-
influenced.  Gerrard's "Devorzhun", which closes the album, is an
invented word of Gerrard's; the track, she says, "is a lullaby
for the sleeping spirit."

For Perry, the unifying force behind the eight tracks that make up
Spiritchaser, "is a search for sounds which would convey a sense of
animism, to try and bring elements of nature  through, like birdsong
and things which suggest woods, snakes, water, atmosphere... to look
for alternatives rather than conventional uses of instrumentation,
to express an animal nature rather than music that was coming from a
technological background."

The rhythms suggested harmonics, which in turn suggested more
diverging possibilities, and so they progressed.  "Making this album
was an evolution of discovery more than anything," Perry reckons.
"We don't discuss that much while we're working; we just know when it
clicks, and become more animated.  It's not an intellectual way of
working, we just try to understand the emotional charge, in order
to go forward."  It's a process, Perry says, that led to the title
of the album.  "We were looking for something that excited us, looking
for the spirit, hunting it down, cornering it...we had the sense of
searching for something which had meaning, something where you hear
the spirits talking."

The result of which is an album that stands well apart from its
predecessors.  Not since the mid-'80s have Perry and Gerrard's
contributions dovetailed together, as opposed to their increasing
tendency to work more in isolation.  It might be because Gerrard
worked on her solo album, The Mirror Pool, which 4AD released in 1995,
or that the pair realized how they had become separated over the
passage of time, after the dissolution of their physical relationship.
Either way, it is a joy to hear the pair of them sing together much
more, as if two rivers have converged to form a stronger, flowing
current.  Their music is grounded in hybrid and fusion so it makes
more sense that they follow the same aesthetic.

as an entity, with a separate life of its own, but this time, I've
been able to sit down and not feel a little tug of war going on
within the picture.  We've got away with doing quite a bit more, which
made the creative process a lot more intense.  It was like a Siamese
twins experience: we microscopically went over everything.  We found
ourselves crossing each other's boundaries, and maybe doing what we
know the other usually does, so it's been an important record for
us."

So boundaries are crossed, and boundaries dissolved.  The boundary
between the studio and the stage will be crossed, too, when Dead Can
Dance begin their world tour in June, their first since 1993, from
where the 1994 live album and video/film Toward The Within was taken.
Besides the usual Western and Eastern European and Northern American
dates, the expanded ensemble are visiting South America for the first
time.  It's not commonly known but, out of all of 4AD's artists, Dead
Can Dance are the biggest internationally -- in San Francisco, for
example, they are playing to 8,000 people ("I'm a bit tentative of
losing the audience from the 40th row backwards," Perry ponders.  "We
might have to throw in some stadium rock numbers...")

Two instrumentals, both instigated in those original percussive
sessions,are to be included in the tour programme.  The beat goes on,
in other words.  Evoking the spirits; and following where they may lead.

(Martin Aston, April 1996)

Dead Can Dance will visit Toronto on Monday, July 15 at the Massey
Hall as their tour crosses the continent...

posted by Jeff Keibel
Toronto,
CANADA


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:24:27 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Who came off the bus Pt. 2 / Critical Mass


yeah, i wanna now all these answers too... (good questions burns... not
like mr. burns from the simpsons??? hmmmm, hmmm)

On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Roy Burns wrote:

> Hello...
>
> >>The bus door opens and...  the whole band deboards and begins walking
> towards us.  Robin, Simon, Liz along with Lincoln, Mitsou and Mark<<
>
> Actually, it was Russell Fong. Lincoln's not on this tour.
>
> Speaking of which, doth anyone know of any official releases by Critical
> Mass, besides what was on one of the Doctor Death's compilations (Cest la
> Mort)? Critical Mass were Lincoln Fong, Margaret from Moonshake/Laika, and
> Andy from Stereolab.
>
> There was also another track on that same compilation by another band that
> featured some female vocalist, Russell and Lincoln. Can't remember the name.
>
> Maybe Brant or Brandon know this one.
>
> What else, besides Moose, have the brothers Fong been involved with?
>
> Also, anyone know what became of the Veldt album Robin Guthrie produced that
> never saw the light of day, because of Capitol backing out of a record deal?
>
> Anybody?
>
> Roy
>

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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:16:05 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...


   the chicago cocteau cancellation seems logical and legit because at the
detroit show the twins only performed one encore and it seems at the
others the cocteaus did three. a show in england was cancelled as well
before the us dates for the same reason.
   the cocteau show was oh, so beautiful and elizabeth sounded stellar to
me and about ten of my friends. the show was so uplifting. i totally
enjoyed almost every second of the show. i sat on the balcony and was able
to see just perfect in a nice cushion chair with the love of my life
(christie) right next to me, and my real good friends were all there
mutually enjoying a magical evening. i was most impressed with "rilkean
heart" which came in the middle of the set. it goes in my top ten favorite
live shows of all-time ( and i have seen about 500 shows ).
   now i've been raving about spain for a while now. spain were o.k. i
didn't think they were great, but they did do a good job. better yet, the
crowd seemed positive and never dogged them (at least i didn't hear any).
the cd is much better. josh haden's sister petra (that dog) plays cello on
tracks and if you like the red house painters or american music club than
check it out.
   i have just finished listening to the red house painters' brand new one
on island records new sub-label supreme recordings. the album is called
"songs for a blue guitar." i do not see why ivo dropped this record. i
find it in the same vein as the red house painters, but mush better.the
album is looser and rocks, strums, slows, tires, speeds up, and the lyrics
are so right. some songs are actually uplifting or are at least not
massochistic like earlier songs. i never noticed any real long guitar
solo like rumored. some songs are way different. the very first song
is (imho) the best red house painters song written especially lyrically.
the song is called "have you forgotten." anyway. i'll do a much longer and
extensive review on my web page... soon a mark kozolek interview,
hopefully in real audio on my page.

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**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
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***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
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e.l.c.                                                              l.f.a.


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:51:12 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: nearly god, nearly here?


>   Nearly God  S/T  PS, UK Reefer lovin' trip hopper Tricky
>   with Terry Hall, Martina, Neneh Cherry, Alison Moyet, &
>   Cath Coffey. Domestic release pushed back to July...
>   DurbanPoison-1001  CD  25.50

Found this entry in the Parasol online catalogue.  It leads me to believe that
this Tricky CD will be released in the US eventually.  Anyone know more about
this?

-cz


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:03:00 GMT
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson


     The Olympic Death Squad CD is excellent. It's different, I'm not
     really sure how to categorise it - it's almost Air Miami and almost
     Unrest??? Just buy it and put some hard earned cash in Mark's pocket!!

     I would also be interested to hear any news on forthcoming Air Miami
     releases - is it true they're no longer releasing anything through
     4AD? Does a teenbeat mail list exist?

     -Paul.


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Subject: olympic death squad - mark robinson

Date: 27/05/96 01:07 just wondering if anyone has heard mark robinson's 'olympic death squad' cd. and by the way, when does that new air miami ep come out? -bruce ------------------------------------------------------------ | D is for Desond thrown out of a sleigh | ------------------------------------------------------------ | bruce levenstein brucel@interramp.com | ------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:47:00 GMT
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?


     I thought this was a 4AD Mail list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


     -Paul.


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Subject: nearly god, nearly here?

Date: 17/06/96 12:00 > Nearly God S/T PS, UK Reefer lovin' trip hopper Tricky > with Terry Hall, Martina, Neneh Cherry, Alison Moyet, & > Cath Coffey. Domestic release pushed back to July... > DurbanPoison-1001 CD 25.50 Found this entry in the Parasol online catalogue. It leads me to believe that this Tricky CD will be released in the US eventually. Anyone know more about this? -cz

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:11:23 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...


On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, James M. Renaud wrote:
>
>    the chicago cocteau cancellation seems logical and legit because at the
> detroit show the twins only performed one encore and it seems at the
> others the cocteaus did three. a show in england was cancelled as well
> before the us dates for the same reason.

        what reason was that, again?  i was under the impression
        that there were no further encores at the detroit sanctum
        show because it was so goddamn fucking awfully fucking
        hot in there.  when they switched on the red
        lights during 'iceblink luck', ...'burn this whole madhouse
        down'... took on a whole new world of meaning for me.

        overall, i agree with starvein's impression of the show.
        summerhead was _my_ favorite non-cliffordized song of the
        evening, and of course Wax and Wane for the cliffordized.
        yow! they played pandora, too! (i think that's what its called)

        if i had a complaint not regarding the venue, it would be
        that the setlist seemed to be chosen for the songs'
        potential to be treated with this newfound trance/dub
        vibe. monochrome, i was thinking on the drive home...

        but liz sounds better than the last three tours combined,
        the mark clifford bits are trip-tastic, the twinlightsesque
        middle bit with rilkean heart and half gifts was tear-inducing.
        simon seems to be more comfortable than ever, and went off
        on some nice mini-solos.  liz with wireless mic in full
        command of the band, using little hand signals to adjust
        tempo...

        i reeely want them to come back around, and play someplace
        other than pontiac.

        i will NEVER EVER EVER go to the sanctum again. EVER

        dan



Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:51:03 -0500
From: Shane Clark (jcleveland@WOODTECH.COM)
Subject: new red house painters


The man bent over his guitar,
A shearsman of sorts.  The day was green.

They said, "You have a blue guitar,
You do not play things as they are."

The man replied, "Things as they are
Are changed upon the blue guitar."

And they said then, "But play, you must,
A tune beyond us, yet ourselves,

A tune upon the blue guitar
Of things exactly as they are."

                -The Man with the Blue Guitar
                 Wallace Stevens


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:11:03 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?


>found this entry in the Parasol online catalogue.  It leads me to believe
>that this Tricky CD will be released in the US eventually.  Anyone know
>more about this?
>-cz
yes I know something about this. I know it's not worth waiting for.
nearly god was a disappointment. the previews created such an expectation.
some tracks are ok. some are pretty shitty. but to be perfectly honest,
I never really liked tricky's music anyway. and I did hear from people
who thought nearly god was his best work so far.
-naor-


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:05:22 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?


Naor wrote ('amar...katav'):

>yes I know something about this. I know it's not worth waiting for.
>nearly god was a disappointment. the previews created such an expectation.
>some tracks are ok. some are pretty shitty. but to be perfectly honest,
>I never really liked tricky's music anyway. and I did hear from people
>who thought nearly god was his best work so far.

Disappointment? Hardly.
I just wrote a review of the Nearly God (due out domestically in July, but
WELL worth picking up the Durban Poison import beforehand) for AP #99
(September). Copyright bullshit prevents me from posting it to the List, but
if you're interested in what I have to say, I'll gladly send you a copy. It
might make it clear why Nearly God is one of the first must-have's of '96.
Add the reissued first Oval ("Whonton") and the new Teenagers in Trouble
(Matt from FSA?) to that list...

Lurkingly,
GuerillaG

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:11:27 -0400
From: Dumpo712cd@AOL.COM
Subject: 4AD for sale!


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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:27:46 -0700
From: "C. Kemnitz" (cz@u.washington.edu)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?


On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Paul Walsh wrote:

>      I thought this was a 4AD Mail list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your point being? ...

Actually, this is a 4AD mailing list.  One filled with ppl. who like(d)
4AD artists, related groups, and music in general.  This is not an
EXCLUSIVELY 4AD discussion list.
Many of us here have expressed an interest in Tricky over the last
couple years and i was hoping to gather information from those more
knowledgeable than myself about the new release.
In light of the recent off-topic postings (regarding politics and
religion), i wonder why you chose my Tricky query to be flabbergasted
with.  If you're going to be here for a while you might want to save some
of those exclamation marks for another day.  (you may wear out that key)

-cz

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:55:32 -0400
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Matthew Fletcher R.I.P. : { (fwd)


hi-
i just got this off of the indie-pop list and i thought that the news may
be important to some of the members of this list.  this is a trully
tragic event, and it has been confirmed by Calvin Johnson.
                                                        lesley
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: TweeKid@aol.com
Subject: Matthew Fletcher R.I.P. : {


I'm sorry to say that I just received confirmation from Ian at Damaged Goods
about the sad passing of Matthew Fletcher last Friday by suicide.  I'm not
really sure what I can say other than this is a very sad day for indie pop
music.  As a member of both Talulah Gosh and Heavenly he was involved with
producing some of the most beautiful and vibrant music that anyone with a
heart could ever want to hear and as a member of Bugbear he created some of
the most...well, that would be better off left unsaid.  On the occasions
 over the years that the Heavenly crew stayed at my house they were always
the best of people and I can remember late nights sitting around the kitchen
table shooting the shit with Matthew and the rest of the band.

I'm going sign off now and remember some of the wonderful moments that I had
seeing Heavenly.

With sadness in my heart and sullen eyes,

Matthew Kaplan


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:37:53 GMT
From: "C.K. Coney" (ckc.atlanta@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News and Updates...


At 05:16 6/17/96 +0000, you wrote:
>   the chicago cocteau cancellation seems logical and legit because at the
>detroit show the twins only performed one encore and it seems at the
>others the cocteaus did three. a show in england was cancelled as well
>before the us dates for the same reason.

A point of correction...in both Atlanta & D.C., CT did TWO encores, with 2
songs, then one in Atlanta, and only one song each encore in DC, at least
that's my best recollection.

>   the cocteau show was oh, so beautiful and elizabeth sounded stellar to
>me and about ten of my friends. the show was so uplifting. i totally
>enjoyed almost every second of the show. i sat on the balcony and was able
>to see just perfect in a nice cushion chair with the love of my life
>(christie) right next to me, and my real good friends were all there
>mutually enjoying a magical evening. i was most impressed with "rilkean
>heart" which came in the middle of the set. it goes in my top ten favorite
>live shows of all-time ( and i have seen about 500 shows ).

Geez, you've seen at least twice as many shows as I have...are you really
rich or really old? (Just kidding!)

>   now i've been raving about spain for a while now. spain were o.k. i
>didn't think they were great, but they did do a good job. better yet, the
>crowd seemed positive and never dogged them (at least i didn't hear any).
>the cd is much better. josh haden's sister petra (that dog) plays cello on
>tracks and if you like the red house painters or american music club than
>check it out.

Unfortunately, there were some rudies in Atlanta...I felt sorry for Spain. I
felt like bonking the rude boys on either side of me.

>   i have just finished listening to the red house painters' brand new one
>on island records new sub-label supreme recordings. the album is called
>"songs for a blue guitar." i do not see why ivo dropped this record. i
>find it in the same vein as the red house painters, but mush better.the
>album is looser and rocks, strums, slows, tires, speeds up, and the lyrics
>are so right. some songs are actually uplifting or are at least not
>massochistic like earlier songs. i never noticed any real long guitar
>solo like rumored. some songs are way different. the very first song
>is (imho) the best red house painters song written especially lyrically.
>the song is called "have you forgotten." anyway. i'll do a much longer and
>extensive review on my web page... soon a mark kozolek interview,
>hopefully in real audio on my page.
>
>**************************** star vein ***********************************
>**************************** http://www.science.wayne.edu/~jrenaud *******
>**************************** jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu ***************
>**************************************************************************
>"since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things" **
>***** e.e. cummings ******************************************************
>**************************************************************************
>**************************************************************************
>e.l.c.                                                              l.f.a.
>


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:47:32 -0400
From: Shar Everett (ISOBL202@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: lisa germano


any lisa germano fans here

just got the re release of happiness
beautiful

does anyone have more info on her?

thanks

shar
isobl202@aol.com

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:07:43 -0600
From: Taylor Baumgartner (lee@CHE.CHE.TULANE.EDU)
Subject: Pixies '88 video for trade


Hi everyone.

Some of you may have already seen this on the subba list, sorry.

I just picked up a great video of a Pixies concert in the UK (Manchester I
think?) from 1988.  They were opening for Throwing Muses (too bad that's not
included).  It's excellent quality and a great set list (pre-Doolittle - 12
songs from SR/COP plus In Heaven, Honey Pie, and Hey).

>From the response I've already gotten on the subba list, I feel like this is
a pretty rare item.  Has anybody seen this circulating before?

Is anybody interested in trading?  I am looking for almost anything 4ad on
video, including the official compilations, promo videos, and bootleg
concerts.  Please e-mail me privately.

Thanks,
Taylor    lee@che.che.tulane.edu


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:33:22 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Tokyo Salamander


Does anyone know how I can order
a copy of Shinro Otake's Tokyo Salamander
designed by V23 or do you have one to sell?
I have looked in a ton of antiquarian bookstores
and even in London when I was there. I would
love to get some infor or advice on this one.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:05:08 -0700
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: record stores in london


hello, list people.

i recall that a few months ago, someone asked for info about record stores in
london, and several replies were posted.

at the time, i didn't pay much attention, but then i found out i'll be going
to london for the first week in july, and now i have the same request...

what are the good/cool/neat/can't-miss music stores in london?  i'm looking
for 4ad & thislisty stuff, sarah/shinkansen, rare/obscure/europe-only CDs, etc.

any and all suggestions are  appreciated.  names and addresses would be most
helpful, and then i'll find 'em on a map.

thanks in advance,
--phil  (plocke@us.oracle.com)

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:44:08 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: nearly god, nearly here?


On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, C. Kemnitz wrote:

> >      I thought this was a 4AD Mail list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Actually, this is a 4AD mailing list.  One filled with ppl. who like(d)
> 4AD artists, related groups, and music in general.  This is not an
> EXCLUSIVELY 4AD discussion list.

With all due respect, I've always thought it should be a mailing list for
discussion about 4AD artists and bands specifically... [see the list name,
for example].  Saying it's not apparently opens the discussion to topics
such as religion and philosophy and what not.

I can always sign up to portishead-l if that's my thing.  What's the point
of mailing lists if they don't stick to the topic?

Mike


Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:05:15 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson


>     I would also be interested to hear any news on forthcoming Air Miami
>     releases - is it true they're no longer releasing anything through
>     4AD? Does a teenbeat mail list exist?

The upcoming 12"/CD-EP is through Teenbeat/Matador, due out in September.

Teenbeat have a website, Teenbeat 210 (incl. full mailorder catalogue and
news page) at:

www.erols.com/teenbeat/


For a full Teenbeat eventology:

www.pi.net/~frankbri/teenbeat.html


Johnny Cohen rules,
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:53:45 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: off-topic discussions [Re: nearly god, nearly here?


Heffalump, n9344881@CC.WWU.EDU wrote:
>With all due respect, I've always thought it should be a mailing list for
>discussion about 4AD artists and bands specifically... [see the list name,
>for example].  Saying it's not apparently opens the discussion to topics
>such as religion and philosophy and what not.

No, things like that will happen no matter how rigid you make the list
topic! I've seen the most narrowly-defined lists veer waaay off topic.
It's just human nature.

>I can always sign up to portishead-l if that's my thing.  What's the point
>of mailing lists if they don't stick to the topic?

Rigidly single-topic lists get boring. I've been on many single-band
lists (the Innocence Mission and the Cocteau Twins most recently) and the
discussion just gets stale. I unsubbed from the CT list after the zillion
and one'th message agonizing over all the different formats of the
Tishbite single. The Kate Bush list (love-hounds) was excellent about ten
years ago because (a) Kate was at the height of her powers and (b) the
discussion was very wide ranging, everything from Tones On Tail to Sonic
Youth -- to which I was turned on by that list.

I do like the idea of 4AD as a "core" about which this lists revolves,
since it helps define a common set of tastes. At least it used to --
4AD's releases are starting to diverge pretty widely and it's harder than
ever to see the aesthetic thread holding them together. (We've thrashed
out this issue plenty in recent months and I don't want to start it up
again! Just pointing it out.)

My current hypothesis is that it's the _people_ on a list, more than the
topic, that make it interesting/valuable -- although you do need to have
some kind of topic to keep the discussion on course. This compares well
with real life -- I choose my friends for their winning personalities
more than for their musical tastes. I was on the ambient list for a while
and, while the topic was very intersting to me, I had to unsubscribe
because there were enough idiots posting enough junk and illiterate
flames to make it really repugnant to read.

That being said, I'd be very interested in taking the non-4AD content of
this list and forking it into a new mailing list. (I just can't offer any
ability to host it myself.) There's not much current 4AD stuff that
interests me anymore, and I'd love to be able to talk about Stereolab and
Seefeel/Scala and FSA and Laika and Curve and even the Cocteau Twins
without having to wade through lots of Dead Can Dance, Scheer, Lush
stuff...
Last time I brought this up there was some interest but no one came
forward with the power to create such a mailing list. Oh well...

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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:25:33 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: record stores in london


well i'm not from london, but i was there in january and went to all of
the cool record stores that i knew of...

of course, still no Outside Your Room ep anywhere.  :(
here are some stores to look out for:

RHYTHM RECORDS in Camden.  i found Gala on uk 12" used for 2 pounds!
THE RECORD & TAPE EXCHANGE in Camden and also in Notting Hill.- used stuff
ROUGH TRADE in Covent Gardens.  i saw a handful of blueboy cd's for 4 quid
                                                each.

also, on Berwick Street in Soho, there are like 10 used record shops, it's
amazing... Berwick (sp?) is the street on the cover of the Oasis album
(Morning Glory).

what i loved about a lot of these stores is how they often filed music-
new and used- by label.  sarah, 4ad, creation... ah, what was that other
store in Notting Hill that had a sarah section?  londoners, please help
out...

Camden Market also has a few cool items for sale- i saw mbv's Strawberry
Wine there on vinyl for 20 pounds.



lorelei, who wished she was back on blandford street

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:06:34 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD


Sung Shim wrote:
>
>      just got this in the mail today
>
> Lush _Last Night_ PRO-CD-8034
>
> 1. Last Night (Latent Power Mix)
> 2. Undertow (Spooky Remix)
> 3. Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix)
> 4. Lovelife (Suga Built Remix)
> 5. Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix)
> 6. Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95)
>
>      some really keen mixes here.  i was shocked at how much i liked some of
> them.  the lovelife remix is especially lovely.  hip hoppin.   still can't
> really get into ladykillers.
>
> sung
> ---
>  http://shoga.wwa.com/~foss/                  foss@wwa.com

I would love to get a tape copy of this.  Can I mail you a blank w/return
mailer or offer you something from my sizable collection?

Even better, would you trade it for a copy of the UK promo only of Facing
the Wrong Way?

Thanks.

Alex

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:37:14 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: his name is alive/prolapse flexi - music stores in japan


hey guys,

this may be old news, but the store i work for just received the latest
_warped reality_ mag that has a fexi with "psychotic now" by prolapse and
"my canada" from his name is alive.  also, it contains good interviews
with laika, pram, and others.  if anyone can't find this, let me know
and i'll pick up the remaining one if it's still there.

also, my work is sending me to japan for a couple of weeks.  i will be in
itamai, which i'm told is just a short train ride to osaka, kobe, and kyoto.
could some knowledgeable person please inform me on record stores to visit
while there?  yes mr. McCallum, i haven't forgot about the MBM disc you
wish.

thanks,
alan
alan@msai.mea.com


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