Subject: Re: THE BLUE NILE'S "Peace at Last" reviewed
Subject: Bleach (whatever happened to...)
Subject: about those coming syrup shows in s. calif
Subject: cassette of tunes to shave to
Subject: Re: Miki's humongous house? How much do 4ad artists make
Subject: Re: Londoners and Canucks
Subject: curve recommendation?
Subject: Re: curve recommendation?
Subject: Blue Nile etc
Subject: Re: curve recommendation?
Subject: Re: off-topic stuff
Subject: Re: curve recommendation?
Subject: Dead Can Dance in Los Angeles
Subject: Re: Londoners and Canucks
Subject: Spiritchaser
Subject: Re: curve recommendation?
Subject: Cocteau Twins in NYC
Subject: Re: Michigan
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser
Subject: Re: curve recommendation?
Subject: Re: Miki's humongous house? How much do 4ad artists make
Subject: Re: Michigan
Subject: Dead Can Dance (seattle)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance in Los Angeles
Subject: hnia review in request magazine...
Subject: Re: Michigan
Subject: Re: Michigan
Subject: dcd in bay area
Subject: Dead Tix
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins in NYC
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:43:12 -0500
I'm not disappointed at all with the new blue nile record. I didn't
expect another brilliant Hats. What surprises me the most is how much
the new album does sound like the old blue nile; i expected a simpler
and softer sound. When paul said (years ago) that the new album would
be "country" i suppose he was accurate, but to my american ears the
new album is much more "rock" than before. Not that it's aerosmith,
but the guitars are heavier, the drums tend to sound more live than
before, the singing is louder maybe?
There are a few moments that really stick out as weak: the repetitive
lyrics of "sentimental man" and the dated (not dated-yet-trendy)
sound of the synths on "holy love" (or do i have the wrong song?).
The lyrics do indeed suggest that they've found religion, though it
could also just be paul's current vocal styling, singing "jesus" a
lot just as a filler word like "baby" or "mama" etc. The lyrics
also have some of the same city imagery as in their previous albums,
and i kinda like that.
I'm satisfied. Pleased. I'm gonna try to make all my friends listen
to this album. I don't think expect i'll worship it as much as Hats,
but there's still a good chance.
Regarding my off-topic criticism of d.k.'s "much grass", i apologize.
Say it all you want, feel free to parody language or religion or
whatever. I gotta remember that half the people on the internet
can't detect sarcasm when it's in writing.
kagin
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:56:18 +0100
Does anyone remember Bleach?
Does anyone know what happened to them?
It's been quite a while now...
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 03:05:28 -0800
I know kelli-j drum posted some dates earlier but I saw some more info
today.
June 18, Tues @ Spaceland: The Apples In Stereo, Nothing Painted Blue
(Franklin Bruno wrote that one Liq. song), and syrup.
June 22, Sat. @ The Haven in Old Town Pomona: syrup, #poundsign#, September,
and Timonium
which is great for me since it's easier to get Sat. off of work.
Come say howdy and give a shake on the hand too.
see yous,
-nick
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 03:16:45 -0800
You know, if you missed all the STP dates like me and don't want
to pay silly-willy-nilly prices for a free cassette either like me
you can call the 4ad info line (someone posted this but left out
the phone # before.)
I got one in the mail a couple of days ago so apparently they still
have em.
the #'s (310)535-1714
I'd hate to think someone paid money for it for lack of the right info.
bye all,
your friend,
-nick
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:59:49 -0400
>I have heard, on the other hand, that His Name Is Alive are actually from
>Michigan, which is not part of America; apparently it's part of Canada.
>Michigan, as you may have heard, is the Canadian province that's been
>arguing about secession due to most of its people having a different
>accent from the rest of the people in Canada and supporting different
>hockey teams.
You know, when someone posted Warren's description of the tracks on the new
HNIA album, I did wonder why there were those references to Canada.
Oh, and Miki got a humongous house to accommodate her not-inconsiderable
nose, alright?
Larry
"Oh, now I have to stand in the tea chest..."
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 07:54:27 -0400
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Steven Venn wrote:
>
> ha ha this is hilarious...as a native of Canada. I can assure you
> that Michigan never was nor will be a province of Canada. Everyone
> knows that the Leafs wouldn't stand for the Red Wings sharing
> their turf. Thankfully now that Mulooney is gone, Canada will
> remain the country that it is and not the new acquisition of the
> Home of the Brave. Better radio in urban centres (ya that's how you
> spell it) here and more colour.
as a native of michigan, i can tell you that the Leafs
would have no problem kommuning with the Red wings,
cuz just like Red wings (federov, kozlov, pa-TEE-zov)
, kanadians are kommies too,
and people have to wait in line for free bread and
free healthkare in kanada just like in russia
(michigan's upper penninsula).
p.s. and as soon as ontario legalizes marijuana posession,
michigan will most certainly defekt.
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:40:12 +0800
hello there! uhm... any curve fans out there? just got the cuckoo album...
(i know i'm kinda late... i'm a late comer in this genre) me thinks they're
kinda cool...
what do u nice people out there think about their previous stuff? thanks!
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:29:36 EDT
If Cuckoo is the only Curve you own, you are in for a great musical treat.
Curve's first three ep's (1991) were compiled into a compilation called "Pubic
Fruit"(1992). It is an absolute must. After 5 years, the Blindfold ep sounds
as incredible as the day it came out.
Curve's first lp, "Doppleganger" (1992 - Virgin Records/Charisma US), is worth
getting if you like everything else. Personally, I think Cuckoo is a stringer
album. Doppleganger has its good and bad moments.
If you want more info, e-mail me direct at [email protected] and I'll
entertain any questions about this great (and greatly missed) band.
Barry
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:36:59 EDT
Jeff Gayton wrote a considerably detailed review of the new Blue Nile LP, 'Peace
At Last', so I'm not about to duplicate his effort. And anyway, these things
take a good while to assimilate. My first impressions are a little mixed, but
generally very favourable. And 'Family Life', a beautiful, almost unbearably
melancholic ballad could possibly be the best thing they've ever done.
While I'm hear, a brief mention for Photek's new 'Hidden Camera' ep. A
collection of four brooding, dark and quite sinister drum and bass tracks.
Jungle goes Film Noir - and highly recommended.
I'm off to Iceland for a couple of weeks, so any info I glean about the infamous
Gus Gus I shall post on my return.
- Dez
PS I wonder what the current flame war will be about when I get back? Bet it'll
have fuck all to do with music.
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:32:50 -0400
>If Cuckoo is the only Curve you own, you are in for a great musical treat.
>Curve's first three ep's (1991) were compiled into a compilation called "Pubic
>Fruit"(1992). It is an absolute must. After 5 years, the Blindfold ep sounds
>as incredible as the day it came out.
uuhhh...this was the one with that song that had the rap in it...?! no
thanks..I am a huge fan of Cuckoo and Doppelganger (they've never surpassed
horror head, the title song, and that last track), and I remember the only
songs I really cared much for that were memorable from Pubic Fruit were the
last ones from the Cherry EP...
I guess to each their own, but just to offer a counterpoint,
-=t=-
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 01:19:44 +1000
Let's see.... so far this week we've
*quoted the bible,(alot)
*argued over descartes/descarte
*quoted in latin (alot too)
*talked about mail oder shops that sux.
That's great guys......:)
BTW I'm doing an article on prices of CDs. In Australia all CDs are made in
Aust. (ie shit) and they cost A$32. On special CDs are A$26 and on sale
A$22. Now $32 for a CD is way to expensive. In Singapore CDs are imported
and they go for about S$20-$22 (S$ is almost the same rate as Aust.$$)
Could eveyone, everywhere on this planet tell me the the Reccomended Price
for CDs in your country? pls.email me directly so as not to clutter the
list.
THANX
ARtC
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:51:05 -0700
>what do u nice people out there think about their previous stuff? thanks!
"Pubic Fruit" is the essential document -- it compiles their first 3 EPs
that predated their first album. The albums "Doppelganger" and "Cuckoo"
are good but not a patch on their first releases.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:19:31 -0700
According to the full page ad in this week's LA Weekly,
Dead Can Dance will be appearing at the
Universal Amphitheater on August 11. Tickets go on sale
this Sunday, June 16 at 11 AM. I don't know what this means
for the Bay Area show which was also scheduled for Aug 11.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:49:19 -0400
warren also lived in canada when he was younger. i love canada... send us
money...it's much prettier than ours...
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:22:05 +0200
I've just recieved the new Dead Can Dance cd from 4AD Mail Order. I'm still
listening but it sounds very good. Can't wait to see them in concert later
this month.
What's the thing on the front? Is it some kind of south-american piece of
wood? (it can also be seen on the DCD page of The Site)
Emiel Efdee
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the Netherlands, June 14, 1996
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:34:00 -0400
I have to agree with Jens that the best curve material is from the first
three EPs. Although, the song with the rap in it is pretty lame, the rest
is by far superior to cuckoo or doppelganger. Songs like "die like a dog"
and "the coast is clear" are amazing. also with pubic fruit you get the
extended remix of "fait accompli" which is also great.
anyone want to sell their later curve EPs? I am looking for horror head,
fait, and blackerthreetrackertwo.
ciao
joey
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:27:17 -0400
Hey all:
Just wanted to drop a quick note to say that
the NYC CT show was really great. Much better
than the 4CC tour at Roseland. More intimate
(I was only about 15 feet from the stage).
The sound was great. Highlights for me included
a ripping version of "Violaine", and the whole
Mark Clifford section of the show.
If you're going to later tour stops, you'll
enjoy it.. I certainly did.
-B
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:53:11 -0700
hk reminds us:
>Grand Funk Railroad
>hails from Michigan, along with the J. Geils Band, Ed B. Chaffee, and the
>mighty practitioners of post-post-pre-post-rock, Ohio.
You forgot Detroit natives THE MC5 and THE STOOGES -- without whom punk
rock would never have existed -- plus TED NUGENT and BOB SEGER, dude! See
Lester Bangs' "Psychotic Reactions and Carburetor Dung" for more peans to
the Motor City as the home of rock-n-roll.
friends who come from there.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:03:52 -0400
>What's the thing on the front? Is it some kind of south-american piece of
>wood? (it can also be seen on the DCD page of The Site)
it is an african mask as far as i can tell
todd sanders
still no snappy sig line, at least on this account
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:43:02 -0400
On 6-14 you wrote:
<Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:41:01 -0400
> I have heard, on the other hand, that His Name Is Alive are actually from
> Michigan, which is not part of America; apparently it's part of Canada.
> Michigan, as you may have heard, is the Canadian province that's been
> arguing about secession due to most of its people having a different
> accent from the rest of the people in Canada and supporting different
> hockey teams.
oh yeah, we michiganders have been apart of canada for some time now (it's
not a legal thing, so don't loudly announce it). however, what we want to
do is suck off enough money from the u.s. and canada and then become our
own country kinda like quebec. then we will get the midwestern police and
if we catch anyone speaking in any type of accent (british, scotish,
french, et al) we'll fuckin kill em.
(warren will be our prime minister)
but (big ole butt) i'm totally sorry for the mistake. long time ago when i
was working apart of a booking agency here in detroit (candians: the
michigan way to pronounce detroit is not "deee-troy-it," it's pronounced
"we-wish-we-were-chicago") anyway... at this booking agency we booked
lollapalooza. anyway, some label put out a lollapalooza cd that featured
all the bands playing the first stage. in the liner notes they said that
lush was from scotland. now this was the first time i heard lush and i
thought they rocked, so anyway, for about five or six years now i thought
that lush were scotish... well, you can't believe everything you read. now
that i think of it, they didn't have scotish accents. i'm extremely sorry.
however scotland will attack...beware... they are gonna join michigan and
together we will...i can't say...
once again sorry... thanks for flaming nicely...
(that's the niceness scotland and michigan will feed on)
jim
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:32:36 -0400
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
> You forgot Detroit natives THE MC5 and THE STOOGES -- without whom punk
> rock would never have existed -- plus TED NUGENT and BOB SEGER, dude! See
> Lester Bangs' "Psychotic Reactions and Carburetor Dung" for more peans to
> the Motor City as the home of rock-n-roll.
Nugent has been given preimminance on my list of
persons michigan should disown; a list which includes
the following as well:
*gerald r. ford (warren commission stooge, nixon pardoner,
onassis mafia puppet extrordinare)
*anthony kedis (red hot chili pepper)
*anthony kedis' dad, who works long and hard
to keep grand rapids from fully realizing the
music renaissance it is capable of.
*henry ford
*brownstone (stinky r&b group with a g.r. native as member)
*the city of howell (midwestern kapital of the kkk)
*the christian reformed church (headquartered in
grand rapids. they nearly killed my spirit with
kkkalvinism)
*AMWAY!!!, and its megalomaniacal bosses De Vos
and Van Andel. the christian right's bankroll.
*coleman young
*me (for public acts of disloyalty to this sovereign
republic)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:56:04 -0700
14 Jun 1996 10:19:31 -0700
> According to the full page ad in this week's LA Weekly,
> Dead Can Dance will be appearing at the
> Universal Amphitheater on August 11. Tickets go on sale
> this Sunday, June 16 at 11 AM. I don't know what this
> means for the Bay Area show which was also scheduled for
> Aug 11.
Well, it looks like the second list of concert dates that we received on the
list are correct because the Stranger says that the Seattle show is August 5th
at the Paramount (NOT two dates at the 5th Avenue Theater as originally stated).
Tickets go on sale 10am June 21st. So how early should i line up for these Tix?
Will someone bring me food if i line up now? I'll see you Seattleites in line
at the "Ave." Tower.
-cz
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:09:51 -0700
just for clarification...the bay area DCD show is:
now, back to whatever it was we were talking about...
peter
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Dewdrops Records wrote:
> According to the full page ad in this week's LA Weekly,
> Dead Can Dance will be appearing at the
> Universal Amphitheater on August 11. Tickets go on sale
> this Sunday, June 16 at 11 AM. I don't know what this means
> for the Bay Area show which was also scheduled for Aug 11.
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:37:43 -0700
this is a review of Stars on ESP that appears in sam goody's li'l
magazine, Request...reviewed by david sprague:
unlike the bulk of basement recording's solitary men--most of whom are
too socially inept to explain their vision to anyone--Warren Defever
(who, in essence, is His Name Is Alive) doesn't seem to have a problem
with crowds. it's just that Defever's world, which is roughly
bracketed by the work of postmod culture's two Phils--Spector and Glass--
allows so little room for chance that his minimalist chamber-pop
excursions virtually have to stay within their own plastic bubble, lest
they be sullied by the imperfections of the outside world.
that said, Stars on ESP, the first His Name Is Alive album in more than
three years, still sounds more like an artistic triumph than a marvel
of modern engineering. yes, Defever--who sporadically assembles his
cadre of fellow travelers in order to transport a little corner of
Detroit into the ether--can be maddeningly affected, as evidenced by
his penchant for classical-style repeated themes (the hook of "This World
Is Not My Home" turns up in nearly half of the album's songs) and his
steadfast refusal to allow for any between-song breaks.
but if you're willing to try swallowing a little pretense, you'll find that
Defever manages to make it go down in the most delightful way, coating it
in layers of spun sugar and honey that suggests a poor mans Pet Sounds.
that resemblance is most overt on songs like "Universal Frequencies,"
which incorporates a theremin line that's similar to the one on The
Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations". but the spirit even imbues such
sonically disparate numbers as the gothic surf romp "What Else Is New
List" and "Bad Luck Girl", wherein the merest hint of psychedelic guitar
gives way to a melancholy Iberian melody gently coaxed along by Karin
Oliver's gossamer Astrud Gilberto-style vocal shadings.
at times, the pastiche effect is a little too precious--the girly-girl
harmonies, sub-Soft Cell synth plinking, and labored jungle samples
that Defever lobs into "Wall Of Speed" and "Famous Goodbye King" cohere
into a song form about as well as a shopping list translates into
literature. likewise, the final, gospel-inspired reprise of "This World"
(this time titled "Last One") betrays His Name Is Alive's intrinsic
soullessness. Defever obviously views passion as fashion and emotion
as a curse, but nevertheless, he's capable of manipulating the
heartstrings just as well as he does one of his sampling machines.
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:40:21 -0400
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>On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:
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>
> Nugent has been given preimminance on my list of
> persons michigan should disown; a list which includes
> the following as well:
>
> *AMWAY!!!, and its megalomaniacal bosses De Vos
> and Van Andel. the christian right's bankroll.
>
Hey, Jens, we queers are in Amway, too, you know. I wish people wouldn't
complain about how Christian Amway is when all we have to do is fill it
with every lesbigay, pagan, etc., etc. Anyone can be in it, you know, and
I saved a bunch of money in taxes, and I find it quite amusing to challenge
all their you-know-what-ism...and when I'm rich, I'm going to donate all my
money to MY kind of people. (And you, for being so brave as to stand
against your kinspeople...)
Anyway, now that I've de-lurked long enough to say something, let me just
say that I LOVE Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, etc., etc.
Also, this list is too busy and I'll be in Ireland for 5 weeks, and I need
help signing off. The server recognizes me as [email protected]
and not [email protected].
Eudora can't help me get off, and I'm on a Mac, so that other guy's
solution won't work for me. I signed on to the list via some guy's
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:45:41 -0700
Kit wrote:
>Hey, Jens, we queers are in Amway, too, you know.
Hey, Kit, that was Dan'l Klein writing, not me. And I should point out
for the record that I like neither the Nuge nor Bob Seger; just being a
completist.
>I need
>help signing off. The server recognizes me as [email protected]
>and not [email protected].
>Eudora can't help me get off, and I'm on a Mac, so that other guy's
>solution won't work for me.
I don't know what that other person was talking about; there's nothing
magic about Microsloth's mail program. I've solved this very same problem
using Eudora before. Just set your return address to
"[email protected]" in Eudora's preferences dialog and send the
uns*bscribe command; then set the return address back to normal.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:34:58 -0400
can the person that asked me to buy exttra tixs for them please e mail me
back cause i accidentally deleted you from my list. please e me privately so
we dont have to bug the list with our doings.