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Subject: puree-the too pure fanzine
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:53:20 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:53:40 -0400
From: My Tang (LunarPie62@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: puree-the too pure fanzine
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:30:20 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD in Berlin
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:16:49 +0200
From: Radoslav Benc (bencr@CCSUN.TUKE.SK)
Subject: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:34:57 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Music like Lisa Gerrard of Dead Can Dance
Date: 6/6/96 5:25 PM
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: recommendations
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:09:12 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:21:18 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: recommendations
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:49:14 GMT
From: Andre.van.Leeuwen@CWI.NL
Subject: Scheer/Frank Black in Vienna...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:02:57 +0200
From: Roland Ulbert (roland@ILLUMINATUS.OR.AT)
Subject: dcd
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:39 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:58:25 +0200
From: Roland Ulbert (roland@ILLUMINATUS.OR.AT)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:14:17 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:41:46 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Just when you're beaten up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:29:28 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Looking for Charles at DARKWAVE.......
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:36:38 -0400
From: Hrtn@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:29:20 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Just when you're beaten up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:56:08 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: DCD in Los Angeles
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:48:31 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: Dead Can Dance pages on The Site
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 01:40:49 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:19:26 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@rintintin.Colorado.EDU)

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:53:20 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: puree-the too pure fanzine


hi!

this is pete from too pure records at the office in los angeles...the first
issue of puree, the too pure fanzine has just been completed and ready for
distribution. it's free and it features interviews with laika, pram, and lots
of other stuff about long fin killie, scala, jack, and some others.

please e-mail (lushmuse@aol.com) me your snail-mail address if interested in
the zine and/or write to us at the office:

puree
too pure records
3500 west olive ave.
burbank, ca 91505-4628

thanks!
pete

p.s. please send us your demos as well...please send them to:
too pure records
3500 west olive ave.
burbank, ca 91505-4628

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:53:40 -0400
From: My Tang (LunarPie62@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?


In a message dated 96-06-06 19:57:35 EDT, you write:

>     I had a simular problem with Contempo records a couple years ago.
>I ordered $130 in Clock DVA merchandise and never got it. I know how
>the Italien mail service doesn't have the best reputation, but after
>a couple of months, I wrote them. I ended up writing a couple of times
>and never heard from them. The Vermont consumer bureau (or whatever they
>are called) told me to send a copy of the canceled check (which they had
>cashed) from the bank in a regestered letter, so you know that they
>got it, and then pester them. Since my thing was out of the country, it's
>harder to use the courts. I *still* don't have my stuff, and so I'm
>boycotting Contempo. This is hard since I've heard of Black Rose on
>that lable. Anyone want to record it for me? (as well as all that
>ClockDVA that I can't listen to).
>
>

anyone have a problem with nosferatu productions?? ive sent them about $70
and they havent sent me anything. e mail me if you want to do something about
it.


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:30:20 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: puree-the too pure fanzine


>puree
>too pure records
>3500 west olive ave.
>burbank, ca 91505-4628
>
>thanks!
>pete
>
>p.s. please send us your demos as well...please send them to:
>too pure records
>3500 west olive ave.
>burbank, ca 91505-4628

Hello Pete
This is Adam & Catherine from Alison's Halo. Looks like you finally landed
that record co. job
you told us about. Please sign us up for the Puree fanzine and we may take
you up on that demo tape offer. We just finished a few recordings at our
rehearsal space and would love to have somebody hear it. Let us know if we
should send one off?
Thanks
Adam & Catherine

Alison's Halo
Post Box 616
Tempe AZ 85280
USA

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:16:49 +0200
From: Radoslav Benc (bencr@CCSUN.TUKE.SK)
Subject: Re: DCD in Berlin


Hello there,

this is going to be in Hungarian (translation follows):

Tud valaki valamit a DCD koncertrol?

In English:

Does anybody know something about the concert in Budapest?

Thanks 2 all,

Bego
________________________________________________________________
  Radoslav Benc, Deptartment of Power Engineering FEI
  Technical University in Kosice, Bacikova 3, 040 01 Kosice, SK
  phone : +42 95 62 231 55, +42 95 62 250 01 ext.14
  e-mail: bencr@ccsun.tuke.sk
  URL   : http://bela.fei.tuke.sk/~bencr/bencr-a.html

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:34:57 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Just when you've given up...


Buncha reviews per Haus Vilexile regs. Sorry no actual 4AD this time but
for some odd reason I haven't thought to pick up those Scheer and Lush
singles I've been promising myself. *YAWN* Hope almost everyone is having
a happy June thus far...

Stealing Beauty
---------------
I must have missed a thread or been in a bad mood or something, because I
don't think I've heard anything about this on the list unless perhaps
it's older than I think. This is the new Bernardo Bertolucci film with
Jeremy Irons and Liv Tyler. I mentioned it in the Jeunet & Caro thread a
few weeks back because the cinematographer from those films is on this
one. Point being, the soundtrack has the most amazing Cocteau Twins song
on it. I don't know how many other people had vowed never again to buy
without listening after Milk & Kisses, but I've changed my mind. When I
heard this in the store I thought it was some long lost brilliant Bel
Canto song from their glory days. It is all full of reverberating piano
and stringy ambience, with stands of guitar winding through deep in the
background. The vocals are exactly what I had hoped would find its way
onto M&K, namely a style closer to Lifeforms 1-7 than any CT material up
til now. Wonderful, low harmonizing and a lovely mix to the whole thing.
This might be worth the price of the cd all by itself, but as an added
bonus you get the best song Mazzy Star has recorded to date, a chance to
hear Lori Carson (who rules, although I admit here she is not at the top
of her form), plus some nice old stuff from Portishead, Billie Holiday,
and Stevie Wonder. And enough pretty stills to ensure that I will be
waiting in line the day the film comes out.


Sarband & Osnabrucker Jugend Chor - Llibre Vermell de Montserrat
----------------------------------------------------------------
(Who?) To the "music that sounds like Dead Can Dance" thread, let me add
my recommendation of this. These are religious songs which were written
for use by visiting pilgrims to the monastery at Montserrat, for
entertainment purposes, i.e. music in a popular style but meant to be
acceptable for performance in and around the church where the pilgrims
had to stay. As a result the disc runs the gamut from sacred music sung
by full choir, to dances like you might hear on Aion, to slow, emotional
pieces for sparse instrumentation not unlike the better Hildegard Von
Bingen instrumental works. I am usually disappointed by collections like
this, but the choir is perfect and the pop songs aren't offensively
folksy since they are thought to have been written by professional
composers of the time from France and Italy. Often they are catchy and
even a little bit ass-kicking. The instrumental performance is as solid
as the choir, the package is classy and informative, and the songs are
all very nice. Overall, this is the best disc of its kind I've come
across with the exception of a few of the Sequential Hildy recordings.


Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich
-----------------------------------------
This is a fucking monster of an album. I'm still trying to chew it but it
keeps pulling my teeth out. I can't compare it to MBM's earlier stuff
except for Satyricon, but I will say this: I didn't like Satyricon. I
thought it was weak and boring and a bit silly. This aint. This sucker is
a relentless, long trip, somewhere between the sort of thing Scorn could
be but aren't and what Lifeforms might have sounded like if FSOL were
evil. It is not some guy messing around with noise for two hours, nor is
it a lot of interludes or what I had expected: Jack Dangers' answer to
Everything is Wrong, an abandonment of what works for what's cool. I just
had that feeling and thank god I was totally off base because I am going
to be listening to this bastard for a long time. Creepy, creepy, evil
stuff. Yum.


Metallica - Load
----------------
This gets my vote for the worst album cover of all time. You know what?
Andres Serrano *is* a JERK. There's really no getting around that fact.
Not if you want to appreciate what he does. I am however surprised that
they got permission to use his work for this purpose. (For the
uninitiated, it's a joke. The name of the photograph is Blood and
Semen.) It's a funny joke and it goes well on a album that isn't itself a
joke but which certainly lacks focus and cohesiveness. Nevertheless there
is some great writing on here, and it's fun to see Bob Rock having his
way with their style--parts of this sound not unlike the last Cult album.
They are of course still Metallica, and while this hasn't got the
stompers and emotional highs & lows of their own self-titled album, I
think it's better overall, a nice big party of a record and I'm certainly
going to have some fun with it.
  Yuck, though. :(


Namlook & Inoue - Shades of Orion 3
-----------------------------------
I can't say too much about this album because I have not listened to it
carefully, but I thought I should mention it because I've made many
recommendations of the Fax label on this list and I don't want to mislead
anyone or rub anybody the wrong way. Recent output from Fax has been
pretty disappointing, to my ear; with the exceptions of Create 2 and
Sultan I have been pretty much lukewarm or worse to everything the label
has put out since November. Since quite a few people have written me
privately mentioning that they had bought such and such a fax record on
the strength of my review and really like it, etc etc, I want to say that
Fax is having a dry spell and don't look at me if you buy Jet Chamber 2
and hate it; I hate it too.
  This, on the other hand, is great; a nice thick dark ambient ride with a
lot of nice music and scary wind stuff. Not as good as 62 Eulengasse but
possibly better than Shades of Orion 2. It's Namlook and Inoue at top
form and where I hope the label is emerging from a disappointing few
months.


   your guerrilla hyperreal correspondent,

                        einexile


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:12:27 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Music like Lisa Gerrard of Dead Can Dance


>>Angeli - Music of Angels by Ensemble P.A.N.

I just picked up this cd which at times sounds like Lisa Gerrard of Dead Can
Dance.  The album is primarily solo choral, but often has several singers and
DCD'esk instruments.  No drums though.  Look
for it in your classical choral sections.  Warning - it is ultra-mellow, quiet.
Sorry, it's not on 4AD (it's Telarc), but it reminded me so
much of DCD/Lisa that I thought you might like it too.<<

Another composer along these lines is Krysztof Penderecki. Check
out 'Complete Sacred Works for Chorus A Capella 1962-1992'. Kinda
like Lisa Gerrard's more medieval/celtic vocal work, but more
sinister. Very, very dark stuff... 'Sicut locutus est' from
Magnificat is just evil...


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Subject: Music like Lisa Gerrard of Dead Can Dance

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Date: 6/6/96 5:25 PM Angeli - Music of Angels by Ensemble P.A.N. I just picked up this cd which at times sounds like Lisa Gerrard of Dead Can Dance. The album is primarily solo choral, but often has several singers and DCD'esk instruments. No drums though. Look for it in your classical choral sections. Warning - it is ultra-mellow, quiet. Sorry, it's not on 4AD (it's Telarc), but it reminded me so much of DCD/Lisa that I thought you might like it too.

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:09:12 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: recommendations


Jason Marc Morehead:
>     does anyone know of any artists, other than mojave 3 and scenic,
>who make melancholy, atmospheric, mellow music that has a
>country/western tinge?  i've heard of a small, good thing(on
>soleilmoon); they're supposed to make very slow slide-guitar ambient
>music.

I've heard a few tracks from A Small Good Thing, and "ambient spaghetti
Western music" suits them to a T. Really nice stuff and I've kept meaning
to pick up the album but never did. I heard once who was responsible; one
of the *Zoviet*France* people or one of their coterie, I think.

As I recall, the second half of Harold Budd's "Abandoned Cities" has an
ambient slide-guitary sound, too, but I may be mixing it up with
something else. It's a damn fine album regardless.

And one of the sources I think all these people are borrowing from is Ry
Cooder; try his soundtrack to "Paris, Texas" or for a more exotic sound
"A Meeting By The River" which is a collaboration with an [East] Indian
guitarist.

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
            Some outside and some indoors--
            Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:21:18 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...


einexile wrote:
>Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich
>-----------------------------------------
>This is a fucking monster of an album. I'm still trying to chew it but it
>keeps pulling my teeth out. I can't compare it to MBM's earlier stuff
>except for Satyricon, but I will say this: I didn't like Satyricon. I
>thought it was weak and boring and a bit silly.

So did I; it was a huge disappointment after "Storm The Studio" and
"99%", which were both also, as you put it, fucking monsters. Try to dig
them up; they should still be available. "Storm the Studio" is
particularly good, Jack having clearly absorbed the then-ruling Public
Enemy vibe (irritating screeching noise loops that are nonetheless
extremely catchy.) This mixed with funk, house, industrial and god knows
what else. Best use of samples of nearly anything I can think of.
By total coincidence I was just listening to it yesterday after a hiatus
of several years (I just about wore the pits off of the disc after I
bought it in '91 and subsequently burned out on it.)
I'll have to give the new album a try.

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
            Some outside and some indoors--
            Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:49:14 GMT
From: Andre.van.Leeuwen@CWI.NL
Subject: Re: recommendations


 |> I've heard a few tracks from A Small Good Thing, and "ambient spaghetti
 |> Western music" suits them to a T. Really nice stuff and I've kept meaning
 |> to pick up the album but never did. I heard once who was responsible; one
 |> of the *Zoviet*France* people or one of their coterie, I think.
 |>
 |> As I recall, the second half of Harold Budd's "Abandoned Cities" has an
 |> ambient slide-guitary sound, too, but I may be mixing it up with
 |> something else. It's a damn fine album regardless.
 |>
 |> And one of the sources I think all these people are borrowing from is Ry
 |> Cooder; try his soundtrack to "Paris, Texas" or for a more exotic sound
 |> "A Meeting By The River" which is a collaboration with an [East] Indian
 |> guitarist.
 |>
 |> __________                                            __________________
 |> Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
 |>             Some outside and some indoors--
 |>             Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
 |>                                                 http://www.mooseyard.com
 |>

 A Small Good Thing is a side project from the guys of O Yuki Conjugate
 which might be added to the list of recommendations.


 Andre.


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:02:57 +0200
From: Roland Ulbert (roland@ILLUMINATUS.OR.AT)
Subject: Scheer/Frank Black in Vienna...


just fyi:
Scheer will be playing tomorrow at The Chelsea
Frank Black will be playing on June, 17th at the Arena

++roland

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Ulbert (ulbert@wu-wien.ac.at|Roland.Ulbert@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.ada.at)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  ...only the madman is absolutely sure...

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:39 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: dcd


        so has anyone seen or been given confirmation that there
        will be a UK vinyl release of spiritchaser (double 10"??).


        question 2: i have yet to get 'universal frequencies', as
        i blew my entire wad on dcd tickets this morning (row D!).
        anyways, my local store has two copies, and upon
        my inspecting the front and back covers of this digipackaged
        wonder, two questions sprang to mind:

        a)who are the lookers on the back cover? warren's mom and dad?
        b)howcome therez absolutely no mention of 4AD on any of the
          exterior surfaces of this disc? is it a 4ad release? i
          see that vaughn oliver did the art, and the catalogue
          number is BAD-something....  but no 4AD logo.  krazy...
           anyone got one of these that can tell me if therez
          a logo on the cd itself or on the inner sleeve?

        dan


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:58:25 +0200
From: Roland Ulbert (roland@ILLUMINATUS.OR.AT)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?

              Jun 6, 96 06:08:14 pm

And lo!, James P. Crimm spake unto the masses:
>      I had a simular problem with Contempo records a couple years ago.
> I ordered $130 in Clock DVA merchandise and never got it. I know how
> the Italien mail service doesn't have the best reputation, but after
> a couple of months, I wrote them. I ended up writing a couple of times
> and never heard from them. The Vermont consumer bureau (or whatever they
> are called) told me to send a copy of the canceled check (which they had
> cashed) from the bank in a regestered letter, so you know that they
> got it, and then pester them. Since my thing was out of the country, it's
> harder to use the courts. I *still* don't have my stuff, and so I'm
> boycotting Contempo. This is hard since I've heard of Black Rose on
> that lable. Anyone want to record it for me? (as well as all that
> ClockDVA that I can't listen to).
Actually, Contempo might be no more - at least they say so in the liner
notes of the ClockDVA "Collective" boxed set (which has been released by
Hyperium, which somehow strenghtens this theory).
Black Rose, formerly on Contempo too, are now also on Hyperium, so you should
have no problems getting their latest record.

++roland

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Ulbert (ulbert@wu-wien.ac.at|Roland.Ulbert@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.ada.at)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  ...only the madman is absolutely sure...

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:14:17 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...


>This might be worth the price of the cd all by itself, but as an added
>bonus you get the best song Mazzy Star has recorded to date,...

what! again? curses!!
this soundtrack fashion is going to leave me flat broke.
I can't go around buying all those records just for one track.
on the other hand, I can't leave all these unheard Mazzy Star
songs just laying about. sure I bought "stoned and dethroned" just
for those two minuets with Hope Sandoval, but the jesus and mary chain
is a pretty good band on it's own.  I was just about to make peace
with my soul for not buying the batman forever soundtrack, and now this..
I'm almost afraid to ask but, are there any more of these loose songs
running wild? maybe I should get a job. (what a dreadful thought)
oh, and I'm still looking for the b side from "fade into you".

well, I'm off to rob a bank or something.

-naor-


"when the devil comes collecting he better hold a six gun in his hand"

                                                        dylan/cave

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:41:46 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...


Jens Alfke  writes:

> "Storm the Studio" is particularly good, Jack having clearly
> absorbed the then-ruling Public Enemy vibe (irritating screeching
> noise loops that are nonetheless extremely catchy.) This mixed with
> funk, house, industrial and god knows what else. Best use of samples
> of nearly anything I can think of.  By total coincidence I was just
> listening to it yesterday after a hiatus of several years (I just
> about wore the pits off of the disc after I bought it in '91 and
> subsequently burned out on it.)

By even more total coincidence -- I was also listening to "Storm the
Studio" yesterday after not listening to if for years.  It still
sounds fresh, wild, dangerous, nasty and funkee.  When was it
released?  '87 or something?  It's still pretty far out, even after
all these years.

I can't understand why everybody is so down on "Satyricon", though.  I
mean, I love "99%", "Storm the Studio", "Armed Audio Warfare" and all
the million singles in between, and while "Satyricon" is much lighter
and goofier than what MBM did before, it's probably the album of
theirs I've listened to most.  It has a very nice flow, nice melodies,
nice sounds.  Not as evil, I suppose.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:29:28 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Just when you're beaten up...


David McCallum  writes:

> P.S. It's great that MBM are still around through so many bankrupt,uncaring,
> or unfaithful labels and after carrying around such a "turn-off" name for so
> many years.  I was only a few years ago that someone pointed out to me that
> it is a kind of slang for masturbation.  If one gets to know Jack, one
> would find it probably refers to vegetarianism and "annihilating rhythm."

Oh, I always thought "annihilating" was used here as an adjective, not
a verb.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:36:38 -0400
From: Hrtn@AOL.COM
Subject: Looking for Charles at DARKWAVE.......


This message is for Charles at Darkwave (who also used to run For The Record
in Ohio). I lost your e-mail address, and need to get in touch with you about
Sam, Gordon Sharp, and their cancelled meeting that was to be in Chicago.
Please write so I can pass on the details.

Thanks................Paul H

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:29:20 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...


I have MBM "Storm the Studio" as well, but I never really listened to it hat
much.  I was looking for the song that goes "this is what its all about..." and
finally found it on a CD single remixed like 5 different ways.  In other words
I haven't listened to STS in like 5 years so maybe I should dig out the tape
and stick in my car.  I do like that CD single though; back in my "dance music"
days, I guess.

Remember Vicious Pink's 8:15 to Nowhere?  I love that song!  I've got it on a
little "lick me" CD that has a plastic diaper so it will fit in regular CD
players.  They rocked.  Whatever happened to those guys?  I liked that SEX song
or whatever too.

marvyn is going to play with his new yellow dual-suspension cannodale tomorrow!


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:56:08 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Just when you're beaten up...


Jens Alfke wrote:

> einexile wrote:
> >Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich
> >-----------------------------------------
> >This is a fucking monster of an album. I'm still trying to chew it but it
> >keeps pulling my teeth out. I can't compare it to MBM's earlier stuff
> >except for Satyricon, but I will say this: I didn't like Satyricon. I
> >thought it was weak and boring and a bit silly.
>
> So did I; it was a huge disappointment after "Storm The Studio" and
> "99%", which were both also, as you put it, fucking monsters. Try to dig
> them up; they should still be available. "Storm the Studio" is
> particularly good, Jack having clearly absorbed the then-ruling Public
> Enemy vibe (irritating screeching noise loops that are nonetheless
> extremely catchy.) This mixed with funk, house, industrial and god knows
> what else. Best use of samples of nearly anything I can think of.
> By total coincidence I was just listening to it yesterday after a hiatus
> of several years (I just about wore the pits off of the disc after I
> bought it in '91 and subsequently burned out on it.)
> I'll have to give the new album a try.

I feel Sub San to be more similar to Satyricon then the "cut-n-paste" days
of Storm the Studio.  Jack has continued with 99%, Satyricon, and now Sub
San to move toward creating tracks from scratch (pardon the pun) and away
from pulling together other people's rhythms to make them his own.

One thing that can be said about Sub San is that it benefits from keeping
Jack's singing to a minimum.  Personally,  I like Satyricon most of all of
his albums but I have only listened to Sub San a few times and love it.
(If there is one thing on Satyricon that I could be critical of, it would
be the lyrics from Jack.)

A note:  Sub San is not a double album.  Disc two is said to be a tribute
to 70's Kraftwerk electronica (something that I, personally, have trouble
seeing) and will be sold as a separate disc when this first pressing is
sold out.  Disc two is more ambient and has fewer vocals, but there are
a couple of "hard" tracks mixed in there too.

David.

P.S. It's great that MBM are still around through so many bankrupt,uncaring,
or unfaithful labels and after carrying around such a "turn-off" name for so
many years.  I was only a few years ago that someone pointed out to me that
it is a kind of slang for masturbation.  If one gets to know Jack, one
would find it probably refers to vegetarianism and "annihilating rhythm."

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:48:31 -0700
From: jeremy redman (jredman@uci.edu)
Subject: DCD in Los Angeles


someone may have already posted this, but as i get the digest format..

Dead Can Dance have announced their L.A. date.  August 11th (which is
good for me as i have a wedding to go to on the 10th) at Universal
Ampitheatre.  The ticketmaster site says they're already on sale, but
when i called TM this morning around 10, the enthusiasm-deprived woman
told me that they haven't announced an on sale date yet. soo.. and TM
hasn't updated their weekly on sale list yet, so i don't know if they're
going on sale this weekend or later this week.. (also haven't picked up
an LA weekly yet, either).

--
jeremy redman      "peace in a world free from religion,
 jredman@uci.edu     peace in a world where everyone gets heaven."
                      - Toni Halliday


Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 01:40:49 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Dead Can Dance pages on The Site


There are a few Dead Can Dance pages on The Site now, including a six-page
spiritchaser-biography and a Real Audio clip. Nice artwork BTW




Latest info about the release-date: June 25 (two days before I will see
them in concert...)


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 8, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:19:26 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@rintintin.Colorado.EDU)
Subject: Re: Just when you've given up...


On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, naor wrote:

> >This might be worth the price of the cd all by itself, but as an added
> >bonus you get the best song Mazzy Star has recorded to date,...
>
> what! again? curses!!
> this soundtrack fashion is going to leave me flat broke.
> I can't go around buying all those records just for one track.

well, i don't know about the mazzy star track, but those thinking of
buying it for the cocteau twins track (which, yes, i already did) should
note that this song (along with circling girl...thank god i never bought
that volume 15 dealie) will be b-sides to part 2 of the violaine single
out on june 17.

.xxx....mark.

oh, new hnia is ace. :)