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Subject: Re: Spiritchaser
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:24:52 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: LUSH on Conan
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 00:51:35 -0500
From: Sanz (bighat@RCI.RIPCO.COM)
Subject: Re: dead can dance tix in nyc?
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:19:15 -0400
From: Enfoire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: parasol
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:06:32 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@JANICE.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: parasol
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 03:14:17 -0400
From: My Tang (LunarPie62@AOL.COM)
Subject: More Non-4AD Clockwork Orange stuff
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:57:24 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:02:59 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: what is gospel yeh yeh ?
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:23:55 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: More scheer...
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 06:00:29 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: DCD in Berlin
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:10:04 CET
From: Tomek (DERUFIN@PLEARN.BITNET)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:52:48 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: nut
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:42:26 -0700
From: "A. Dean" (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: nut
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:29:25 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Sianspheric / Red House Painters
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:47:10 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:00:02 -0400
From: THEDISH89X@aol.com
Subject: Re: nut
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:24:36 +0100
From: Leee Beattie (ozfec@WESTMINSTER.AC.UK)
Subject: GODZUKI need your help (if you're near PA)
Date: 4 Jun 1996 18:22:44 -0400
From: skippyusa@aol.com (SkippyUSA)
Subject: NME homepage
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:26:54 +0200
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: The Blue Nile
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:21:07 -0500
From: "Jeffrey T. Gayton" (jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU)
Subject: LUSH in RI
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:20:10 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: Re: Sianspheric / Red House Painters
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:03:36 -0400
From: Nunayer Dambiznis (robertfo@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Re: Sianspheric / Red House Painters
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 21:28:30 -0400
From: David MacPherson (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: lasted word on ltd. ed "...Rimy.."
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 00:21:23 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:24:52 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser

              Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:17:46 -0700

>   For those of you (like myself) who live in the seattle
>   area & do not have direct access to a copy of the promo
>   for dcd's spiritchaser, there is a way to hear it!
>
>   I was wandering around tower in Bellevue the other day
>   when I noticed a photocopy of the cover of the new album
>   pasted to the cd rack.  I reached out to pull it down
>   when I noticed it was connected to one of those
>   listening station thingies. Imagine my surprise! In
>   Bellevue!

It's also in the University Tower store and i suspect in many other Tower chains
across the country.  I stood in Tower for 45 minutes or so listening to the
album in it's entirety (they really should get forward scanning CD players in
there).

This is a DIFFERENT band!  IMO they have made a great leap from the DCD of the
last few albums (larger than between any other two consecutive albums).  I liked
what i heard but i'm sad to hear the medieval/celtic DCD get buried.  I guess
you ppl. with the promo had told me that it would be "different" but it still
sounded much more different than i anticipated.  I expected that the album would
be more rhythmic and less divergent (Brendan vs. Lisa)--it was ... BUT i thought
that latin influence business was ... well ... a joke.   it's there!
Another thing i didn't expect was the newfound use of studio twiddlings.  It'll
be interesting to see if this blossoms into a new warrenesque fixation.

I had to listen to track 4 twice (i think that's the right track no.) because i
thought for sure that it was a radically altered cover of a song that i knew but
couldn't place.  I finally figured out that the song i was thinking of was
Wolfgang Press's "Cut the Tree" (from Lonely is an Eyesore) and then i realized
i was just crazy and ought to ignore myself.  Am i crazy?  I wish i had the DCD
promo to compare the songs (particularly the singing near the end) side by side.
Well, enough of my blabberinng ...  I'll definitely buy the album when it comes
out but be forewarned, it's a new phase for Dead Can Dance (by my count they're
on phase IV; I = tribal gothic, II = classic DCD, III = medieval/celtic).

-cz


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 00:51:35 -0500
From: Sanz (bighat@RCI.RIPCO.COM)
Subject: LUSH on Conan

              digest processor" at Jun 5, 96 00:00:01 am

For those Americans on the list:
According to Late Show News, Lush will make an appearance on Conan O'Brien on
Friday June 7th.

My apologies if this has already been posted.
--
****************
Sanz Lashley

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:19:15 -0400
From: Enfoire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: dead can dance tix in nyc?


Does anyone know when DCD tickets are going on sale for the NYC show?  Are
they going to be at Town Hall?

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:06:32 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@JANICE.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: parasol


Back to my Parasol problem... they answered the email I sent them a couple
of days ago, and told me the postal service requires 1 month before they
declare anything 'lost,' so I get to wait some more.

Glad they responded this time, though.

Mike


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 03:14:17 -0400
From: My Tang (LunarPie62@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: parasol


Does anyone know when the dcd tickets will be on sale for san francisco and
where it will be exactly. thanks.


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:57:24 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: More Non-4AD Clockwork Orange stuff


>A Clockwork Orange isn't actually *banned* in the UK by 'the powers that
>be'

I used that particular phrase 'the powers that be' as I wasn't sure who'd
banned/withdrawn it - but to stretch a point, I'm sure that Kubrick could be see

as a power that is/was...

But, for example, owning the video IS illegal now, so some other power that
was/is must have *actually* banned it or something...


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:02:59 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Spiritchaser

               of Tue, 4
              Jun 96 21:24:52 -0700

that CRAZY idiot cz said:
>I had to listen to track 4 twice (i think that's the
>right track no.) because i thought for sure that it was a
>radically altered cover of a song that i knew but couldn't >place.  I finally
figured out that the song i was thinking
>of was Wolfgang Press's "Cut the Tree" (from Lonely is an >Eyesore) and then i
realized i was just crazy and ought to
>ignore myself.  Am i crazy?  I wish i had the DCD promo to
>compare the songs (particularly the singing near the end)
>side by side.

Um ... i wiped off the dust from LIAE and listened to "cut the tree" after this
post and thought "tat you pe te blind dronk and te vool."  What you meant was
*I'm Comming Home* from Legendary WP and other tall stories!

-cz

your vull zubmizzion unto te Angel ov te Odd."


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:23:55 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: what is gospel yeh yeh ?


> naor wrote:
> > recently I heard a band called "the make up" and I understand that
> > they represent a trend of alternative christian music called
> > gospel yeh, yeh which is spreading from washington D.C. can anyone
> > shed some light on this? what is the music like? what's the dogma?
> > (if different from "normal" christianity) what bands fit in the
> > category ? (other then make up) listies from the D.C area should
> > know all about this.
>

 On  4 Jun 96 at 15:31, a bear of very little brain wrote the
following about "Re: what is gospel yeh yeh ?":

> Admittedly I've only listened to my copy of the Make-Up album a
> coupla times, and even at that, those listens were cursory at best,
> which might explain the fact that I have yet to pick up on this
> "gospel yeh yeh" thing even if the Second Coming were to have
> happened in the middle of Side Two.  That said, large parts of the
> album did remind me of an odd hybrid of good ole-fashioned punk rawk
> with a goodly amount of revivalist James Brown whoopin'n'yellin',
> but again, the gospel element has yet to hit me full on.
>
> Groovy hairdo's nonetheless, don't you think?
>
> Anyway, isn't there an indie band called Soul Coughing whose schtick
> is doing old gospel numbers Jon Spencer style?
>

I thought Make-Up were a bit of the Nation of Ulysess (sp?) - the
discription fits?


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 06:00:29 -0400
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: More scheer...


The US version of the CD sneakily adds the acoustic version of "Demon"...
CJ

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:10:04 CET
From: Tomek (DERUFIN@PLEARN.BITNET)
Subject: DCD in Berlin


Hi!
This msg is especially to those in Germany. I'd love to go to the July 24th
concert in Berlin, but I live in Warsaw and don't know how to buy or book
tickets. It is much easier to get to the Prague concert, and I wanted to do so,
but it turned out we (i.e. me and my friend) both can't go there. So if you
know something and are willing to help, I'll be more than grateful...

BTW, what is the date of the European premiere of Spiritchaser. I was told that
in Poland it is due to come out on June 17. Can it be true?

                                                     Hope to hear sth soon...


                                                     Bye

************************************************************************
 "An eye for an eye only ends up
  making the whole world blind"
                    from "Gandhi"
                                            Tomek Oljasz
                                            Derufin@plearn.edu.pl
                                            Warsaw University
************************************************************************


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:52:48 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"


On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Heffalump wrote:

> stupid question:  is the 7" 45 or 33?  I didn't see anything on the disc,
> and when I played the HNIA side at 33, then switched to 45... I really
> couldn't tell which was right.


        im convinced now that the intended playing speed of the
        little princess 7" is 33rpm.  this follows a pattern for
        timestereo 7" records which are listed as 'ep's'.
        although i agree that the difference is difficult to
        discern, as it sounds kool at 45 too.

        i listened to the ESP FAMILY 7" on 45 for a day or two
        before realizing that it too plays at 33.

        dan

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:42:26 -0700
From: "A. Dean" (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: nut


> nut
>
> naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
> Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:06:51 PDT
>
> okay, here goes nothing.
>
> I heard 1 song, "scream", by a band called "nut" and I really want
> to know more about them. more to the point, I really want to listen to
> more of their music. I have already tried all of my usual resources
> so you listies are my only hope.
> crossing my fingers
>
> naor

slightly more than nothing:

nut is a women, that's her name not the band's although it may be the band's
as well in some pj harvey kind of way, named after some egyptian goddess or
something, brief piece in the nme this week which ends with the line:
'brains' is out now on epic.
which should be enough to get you a copy. (sister ray have copies for sale i
notice, see the ads in the nme or email me back and i'll get you a copy next
time i see it)

.il? iceland?
--
a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk
touch fuzzy get dizzy...


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:29:25 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: nut


>> I heard 1 song, "scream", by a band called "nut" and I really want
>> to know more about them.....

>nut is a women, that's her name not the band's although it may be the band's
>as well in some pj harvey kind of way, named after some egyptian goddess or
>something...

Nut, Egyptian sky goddess whose body forms the arch of the sky, wife and
sister of Geb, Earth god.  Two of the older gods, going back further than the
more familiar Osiris, Isis, Horus, Thoth pantheon.



Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:47:10 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Sianspheric / Red House Painters


Hello...Listening to the local college station...

Anyone familiar with a band from Ontario called Sianspheric. The track that
the station played was called "Zoe" and it sounded as much like the Red House
Painters to make me wonder for a second. A very good song. If the rest of
this LP, called Somnium (sp?) sounds like this one song did, anyone who is
heavy into RHP might want to check them out.

The singer's voice actually sounds like Mark K. singing in a higher register.
The instrumentation is very RHP (acoustic carries the song with distorted
guitar floating on top and very subtle drum playing).

They are on a label called Sonic Union...

Any thoughts? Anyone familiar?...

O.K. Bye,

Roy


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:41:37 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins (fwd)


A DJ at my local alternative station posted me the following
regarding all the confusion regarding the location of the
detroit CT show.

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:00:02 -0400
From: THEDISH89X@aol.com
Subject: Re: cocteau twins


Incidentally, regarding the Cocteau Twins.....

Rumor has it that the whole playing at St. Albetus Church was a
set-up/publicity stunt thing to get the show more attention.  All along the
plan was to have the show at the Sanctum.  The promoters (sneaky promoters)
felt that getting a real church involved would spark the interest of the
media (it did) and sell more tickets for the show.  I think that is pretty
shitty, but oh well.

Anyway, just thought you might like the inside scoop.

Cristina

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:24:36 +0100
From: Leee Beattie (ozfec@WESTMINSTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: nut

              96 09:06:51 pm

>
> okay, here goes nothing.
>
> I heard 1 song, "scream", by a band called "nut" and I really want
> to know more about them. more to the point, I really want to listen to
> more of their music. I have already tried all of my usual resources
> so you listies are my only hope. ( except puting "have you seen this band"
> posters on milk bags. do they REALLY do that in the states?)
> anyway. if one of you experts with great connections ( hey, there's
> no harm in a little buttering when you ask a favour from someone)
> could track down this band, you won't be dissappointed. it's beautiful.
> at least, the one song I heard was.
>
> crossing my fingers
>
> naor
>

I have a promo tape of 'Nut' but as it turned up with a few others I can't
quite remember which one it was (stoopid I know).  I think it may have only had
about three tracks on it.

Your quip about the States suggests you ain't there - if you are in the UK, and
don't get any better offers I'll try and sort out sending you a copy.

If you are interested then mail me direct on:

ozfec@wmin.ac.uk

and we'll see what happens - if anyone else is interested then tough...it is
too hot for generosity to extend to starting a mail order service.

Leee


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:03:04 -0700
From: noisegirl (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: forward from alt.music.alternative - Godzuki/PA


------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: skippyusa@aol.com (SkippyUSA)
Subject: GODZUKI need your help (if you're near PA)

Date: 4 Jun 1996 18:22:44 -0400 Godzuki's Philadelphia show just cancelled and we're looking to fill the date on Friday, June 21. If you are within driving distance of NYC, PA, OH, etc., let us know if you can help. THANKS A MILLION Here's their long weekend schedule: Thursday, June 20 - Brownie's, NYC (w/Vitapup) Saturday, June 22 - Luciano's, Pittsburgh, PA (w/Xerobot & Vehicle Flips) Sunday, June 23 - Bent Crayon Records, Cleveland, OH Look for east coast dates in August with HIS NAME IS ALIVE.

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:26:54 +0200
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: NME homepage


Just to say that the NME is online now.
Their homepage is at www.nme.co.uk.
You need to register first.
I don't care too much about NME though.
But if NME is online,Melody Maker might follow.
Let's hope for that :)
Melody Maker RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!


        snailhead



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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:21:07 -0500
From: "Jeffrey T. Gayton" (jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU)
Subject: The Blue Nile


Thanks to everyone who's sent information about the new Blue Nile album.  I
can't wait!  If anyone hears information about particular concert dates
and/or single release information, please send it to the list.

By the way, can anyone confirm whether they're still on Linn records in the
UK?  CDEurope listed them as on Warner Bros., but that may be the continent
rather than England.

And for those of you on the list who haven't heard the Blue Nile, check
them out.  Some of you may know that I'm a total 4AD fanatic, but I think
the Blue Nile blows them all away!  No one just "likes" the Blue Nile (at
least in my experience).  You either hate them or they become part of your
soul.  The music and tunes are amazing and different from anything you've
ever heard (especially on their first album, "A Walk Across The Rooftops"),
but keep in mind that their singer is an acquired taste.  Technically, he's
got a _very_ weak and thin voice.  However, I love it, and wouldn't want
anyone else to sing their songs.  For all his technical limitations, I
think he's the most expressive vocalist there is.  I get a lump in my
throat every time he sings the last line in "Headlights on the Parade."

And now to our regularly scheduled programming.

--Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

Dis-er-ta-tion n (1651) : 1 an extended usu. written treatment of a
subject; specif. : one submitted for a doctorate  2 world's longest job
application

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:20:10 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: LUSH in RI


Instead of fighting the mini-festival crowd in MA/CT those in the Providenve
area this thursday 6/6 should catch the free show at Waterplace Park (?), exact
location unknown except its downtown which is not a huge area.  park follow the
crowd and hope its the right one.  i think Johnny Bravo(?) is opening and it
starts at 5pm.....sponsored by WBRU i suppose you could call for more info.
I of course will be stuck at work...drat.



bill 

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:03:36 -0400
From: Nunayer Dambiznis (robertfo@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Re: Sianspheric / Red House Painters


On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Roy Burns wrote:

> Hello...Listening to the local college station...
>
> Anyone familiar with a band from Ontario called Sianspheric. The track that
> the station played was called "Zoe" and it sounded as much like the Red House
> Painters to make me wonder for a second. A very good song. If the rest of
> this LP, called Somnium (sp?) sounds like this one song did, anyone who is
> heavy into RHP might want to check them out.
>

Actually, I think their lp is somewhat reminiscent of Verve's "A Storm in
Heaven".  Hadn't thought about rhp.  I'll have to compare them!  The
highlight of the album (for me) is a 21 minute instrumental that closes
the lp called "Where the Planets Revolve, I Wish I Was There"
(grammatically incorrect, but who really cares...  please no one answer
that!)

The album (Somnium) is worth picking up if you can find it.

rob.


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 21:28:30 -0400
From: David MacPherson (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: Re: Sianspheric / Red House Painters


On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Roy Burns wrote:
>
> Anyone familiar with a band from Ontario called Sianspheric. The track that
> the station played was called "Zoe" and it sounded as much like the Red House
> Painters to make me wonder for a second. A very good song. If the rest of
> this LP, called Somnium (sp?) sounds like this one song did, anyone who is
> heavy into RHP might want to check them out.
>
> The singer's voice actually sounds like Mark K. singing in a higher register.
> The instrumentation is very RHP (acoustic carries the song with distorted
> guitar floating on top and very subtle drum playing).

Sianspheric is a brilliant band, however very little of their album sounds
anything like the Red House Painters. The song you heard (ZOE) is their
only quiet, acoustic sounding song and is somewhat similar to RHP.   The
rest of the album has a very atmospheric sound, heavy on the guitar
effects. At times it becomes quite ambient, especially during the last
song on the album (which clocks in at over 20 minutes). Their album is
very original and i find it difficult to compare them to anyone.
They are definetly worth seeing live where you can really lose yourself
in the atmospheric guitars.
They have a mail order list on the cd sleeve, if anyone's interested in
the album, you can e-mail me for the address.
cheers!
dave


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 00:21:23 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: lasted word on ltd. ed "...Rimy.."


in a letter from 4AD  I received the other day:

"24/05/96

Dear James,

Many apologies for the prolonged delay in dispatch of the Ltd. Edition "This
Rimy River".  This has been due to a variety of problems with the printing
and
binding of said book.  The finished work however looks beautiful.  We greatly
appreciate your patience in this matter, and understand your concern over the
time
taken to deliver.
          We are expecting a delivery of the finished towards the end of
June,
and mail-outs will commence as soon as possible.  We will notify those
subscribers
who wish to pick up the book personally of the most opportune time to call
in.
          Again our sincerest apologies for the delay.".......
"Yours sincerely,    Tim Hall - Mail Order"

so there you have it.....keep an eye out for the mailman.

~blu


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