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Subject: HNIA7"
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:12:42 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delete if you know all about it,
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:49:57 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delete if you know all about it,
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:51:20 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Spiritchaser: Seattle info
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:17:46 -0700
From: Jon D Drake (jdavid3@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:44:53 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:50:19 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: cocteau radio appearances...and other news...
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 04:41:08 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: non-4AD question for the UK
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:38:12 -0400
From: FA ken clinger (clinger@DUQ2.CC.DUQ.EDU)
Subject: cocteau contest is up....
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:48:50 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:33:47 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:46:22 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:43:42 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re[2]: non-4AD question for the UK
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:06:20 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: lush in connecticut
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:26:19 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:57:04 GMT
From: "Booth, Giles" (Giles.Booth@BBC.CO.UK)
Subject: nut
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:06:51 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: PostScript eyesore available again
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:09:12 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: what is gospel yeh yeh ?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 20:45:01 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: Lush's middle name?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:58:20 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: lush in connecticut
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:37:40 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: what is gospel yeh yeh ?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:31:41 -0500
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Scheer interview in Dotpitch
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:07:41 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: More scheer...
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:23:25 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Another cocteau contest....
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:04:55 -0400
From: DERRICK CRUZ (dcruz@AVALON.NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: any great E-zines??
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:51:57 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:12:42 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: HNIA7"


I got my order from Shaolin Temple in today -- including the His Name is
Alive/Little Princess 7".  Surprised I got it on one piece -- 3 7"s, and
all they were packed in was one of those flimsy bubble mailers.  Here's my
stupid question:  is the 7" 45 or 33?  I didn't see anything on the disc,
and when I played the HNIA side at 33, then switched to 45... I really
couldn't tell which was right.

Mike

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:49:57 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delete if you know all about it,

              or don't care about unsubbing info. ,
              Includes Mr. Jones Address (was: Sytem help, please?)

i have a similar problem that i've been trying to solve!

(i'm posting this because the message asks me to)

recently my e-mail address changed from "lfl3858@is2.nyu.edu" to
                                        "lfl3858@is4.nyu.edu."  this
happened involuntarily, but i was forewarned and was told to unsub from
all listservers before the change occurred... of course i didn't.  i was
subbed onto about 5 lists.  i successfully unsubbed from four but wasn't
able to get a hold of anyone at 4ad-l who could help...

i'm still getting forwarded mail from my is2 account, but the forwarding
system will eventually stop and i don't want to cause a big flood of
returned mail to the 4ad list... i've tried reaching the listowner, and of
course i've tried unsubbing from my is4 account.  unfortunately there is
no way to get back into my is2 account.

so here's a similar problem...what do i do?

lorraine :(

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:51:20 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delete if you know all about it,

              or don't care about unsubbing info. ,
              Includes Mr. Jones Address (was: Sytem help, please?)
               of Mon, 3
              Jun 1996 23:49:57 -0400

>   recently my e-mail address changed from
>   "lfl3858@is2.nyu.edu" to
>   "lfl3858@is4.nyu.edu."  this happened involuntarily, but
>   i was forewarned and was told to unsub from all
>   listservers before the change occurred... of course i
>   didn't.  i was subbed onto about 5 lists.  i
>   successfully unsubbed from four but wasn't able to get a
>   hold of anyone at 4ad-l who could help...

The best way to solve your dilemna (or so i'm told) is to find someone with
Eudora (or a similar mail program) who can "forge" your old address in the
"from" field to unsub you.  All you need to do is make listserv@american.edu
THINK* that they're getting their message from your old account and this amounts
to nothing more than typing it into the "from" field in the mail program.  This
is a bunch easier than trying to get in contact with Jim Jones (i'm just
thankful he continues to keep this list going).  Give it a try.

-cz

*  (P.S.:  Of course, you could get your sys. admin. to actually send mail for
you from the proper node but then you'd have to admit that you ignored all the
warnings)

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:17:46 -0700
From: Jon D Drake (jdavid3@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Spiritchaser: Seattle info


For those of you (like myself) who live in the seattle area & do not
have direct access to a copy of the promo for dcd's spiritchaser, there
is a way to hear it!

I was wandering around tower in Bellevue the other day when I noticed a
photocopy of the cover of the new album pasted to the cd rack.  I
reached out to pull it down when I noticed it was connected to one of
those listening station thingies. Imagine my surprise! In Bellevue!

Get over there & put those unsanitary headphones on & take a listen!
The station is sneakily placed in Rock CD's above the M's.

- Jon


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:44:53 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"


Is the split 7" the same as the HNIA 7" that is supposed to be coming
around soon (now that the art work is done)?  Or are they two seperate 7"s??

Matt


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:50:19 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Mail-order problem... advice?


On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Heffalump wrote:

> I made an order to Parasol 3 weeks ago for 2 CDs.  I never got them, so I
> emailed Parasol.  I ended up emailing back and forth with them a few
> times, them telling me they were 'looking,' but nothing came of that.  Now
> I still haven't seen my package, and Parasol hasn't responded to my mail
> in a week.  Any idea how I can get these folks to 1) return my cash or 2)
> send me the CDs before I have to move out?

It might be worth assuming they have e-mail problems of some sort, but it
would be wise to call them if possible. If that doesn't work, contact
their postmaster; I hope you saved all your correspondence. No provider
will allow businesses to commit fraud using their disc space, and a good
yell from the postmaster always gets someone's attention. Realistically,
someone's probably just had a hard week and flaked out a bit. e-mail is a
weird way to do things and I've had some people fuck up my order and not
get back to me, only to totally come through and be cool later on. It's
an odd dynamic and probably a bad idea to burn a bridge you don't know is
rotten. EAR/Rational once failed to respond to me for two weeks, and they
are the best record store I've ever done business with.

Just a few peaceful thoughts for the miffed,


 einexile, founder FCMMPA


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 04:41:08 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: cocteau radio appearances...and other news...


got some fresh news about radio performances in the US. they will be
playing 3-4 songs on these listed (but not totally confirmed) radio
stations. also a chance that the contest will allow winners to attend
radio performance.

Hadn't spoken to Robin in a while, so his accent kinda threw me off with
some of these call letters. please correct me if i get some of these call
letters a little mixed up (before i post it on the website).

June
7th  - WRAF - atlantla
       WXPN - philly
11th - WXRB or WBAI (boston or new york)
17th - KBSO -denver
19th - KMTT (or KNDD?)
22nd - KITS (live 105)
23rd - Television appearance and Modern Rock Live

also, the next single will be calfskin smack along with LIVE songs!
apparently, they recorded the paris show and it sounds really great.

back to coding and htmling

jack


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:38:12 -0400
From: FA ken clinger (clinger@DUQ2.CC.DUQ.EDU)
Subject: non-4AD question for the UK


This isn't really a 4AD question, but it seemed like the best place to
ask. I recently heard that Clockwork Orange was "still banned in the UK".
Could someone tell me what this might mean? The book or the movie? Either
way, it sounds strange, since the UK is hardly known for censorship.

This was brought up in reference to the "The Universal" video by Blur
(sorry!), which supposedly based its style on the film.


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:48:50 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: cocteau contest is up....


okay..

here's your chance to meet the cocteaus without acting like a freak
tracking down into some drug store...

questions is fairly easy and the prize is nice. have fun.


jack b huynh
jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu

                                http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:33:47 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK


On Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:38:12 -0400 FA ken clinger
 wrote:
>This isn't really a 4AD question, but it seemed like the best place to
>ask. I recently heard that Clockwork Orange was "still banned in the UK".
>Could someone tell me what this might mean? The book or the movie?

The movie - after some copycat killings/attacks when the film first came out, th

powers that be decided that it should be banned, and the ban still stands
(despite the film's relative mildness in comparison to something like, say,
Reservoir Dogs or Trainspotting).

The video is illegal too, and if you are caught bringing a copy into the country
you're in trouble.

The stage version played to packed houses a few years ago, and of course just
cause the film/video is banned, doesn't mean that it's unavailable if you get my
meaning.

>Either way, it sounds strange, since the UK is hardly known for censorship.

The UK hardly known for censorship????!!!??? ROTFL :-D  ;-D :-D
("Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce")


(a dissillusioned brit)


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:46:22 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK

              "FA ken clinger" at Jun 4, 96 08:38:12 am

 FA ken clinger  wrote on Tue, 4 Jun 1996
 (Subject: non-4AD question for the UK)
 > This isn't really a 4AD question, but it seemed like the best place
 > to ask.  I recently heard that Clockwork Orange was "still banned
 > in the UK".  Could someone tell me what this might mean? The book
 > or the movie? Either way, it sounds strange, since the UK is hardly
 > known for censorship.

Kubrick "banned" the film himself - there was a lot of fuss about the
violence in the film encouraging impressionable teenagers to dress up in
bowler hats and eyeshadow, so he withdrew the film from UK release - it
isn't even available on video.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 04/06/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Radio 4

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:43:42 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: HNIA7"


>I got my order from Shaolin Temple in today -- including the His Name is
>Alive/Little Princess 7".  Surprised I got it on one piece -- 3 7"s, and
>all they were packed in was one of those flimsy bubble mailers.  Here's my
>stupid question:  is the 7" 45 or 33?  I didn't see anything on the disc,
>and when I played the HNIA side at 33, then switched to 45... I really
>couldn't tell which was right.

Its 45 rpm: listen to the vocals in the second part of the HNIA track.
I have to admit though that the first part of the track sounds better when
you play it at 33 rpm.


>Is the split 7" the same as the HNIA 7" that is supposed to be coming
>around soon (now that the art work is done)?  Or are they two seperate 7"s??

It's the same.


Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:06:20 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: non-4AD question for the UK


_

  >>>Either way, it sounds strange, since the UK is hardly known for censorship.

  >>The UK hardly known for censorship????!!!??? ROTFL :-D  ;-D


(a dissillusioned brit)

   ....just ask Michael Moorcock or Alan Moore, my two favorite naturalized (or
soon to be) Americans...

  Alex


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:26:19 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: lush in connecticut


does anyone know how much the festival in connecticut costs?  i heard it
was something like $50.

also, i'd like to know the lineup...and if the show has sold out yet.
someone, please respond...


lorraine

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:57:04 GMT
From: "Booth, Giles" (Giles.Booth@BBC.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: non-4AD question for the UK


A Clockwork Orange isn't actually *banned* in the UK by 'the powers that
be'. Stanley Kubrick himself withdrew the film in Britain because of the
outcry the film's sexual violence caused at the time. I believe he had
death threats. So blame the director - or those who threatened him...
still, I suppose you could argue that the threats amount to censorship,
if by a circuitous route. But the film was granted a certificate for
theatrical release in Britain.



BTW, the much missed Scala cinema in London closed largely as a result of
showing the film without permission...

--------------------------------------------------------------

-   giles.booth@bbc.co.uk - BBC World Service

-   Room 503CB, Bush House, Strand, London WC2 4PH

-   'the fun fur has developed rudimentary intelligence'

--------------------------------------------------------------


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:06:51 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: nut


okay, here goes nothing.

I heard 1 song, "scream", by a band called "nut" and I really want
to know more about them. more to the point, I really want to listen to
more of their music. I have already tried all of my usual resources
so you listies are my only hope. ( except puting "have you seen this band"
posters on milk bags. do they REALLY do that in the states?)
anyway. if one of you experts with great connections ( hey, there's
no harm in a little buttering when you ask a favour from someone)
could track down this band, you won't be dissappointed. it's beautiful.
at least, the one song I heard was.

crossing my fingers

naor


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:09:12 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: PostScript eyesore available again


I've now recompiled the mam(m)oth ps eyesore 4AD discography.  It's
an 8Mb gzipped PostScript file; 30Mb unpacked and 150 pages long.
It doesn't take that long to print it -- most of those 30Mbs are
sleeve scans which are handled well by most printers.  I think.

Get it from .

Or wait for a couple more days.  I still haven't found the right font
for the page numbers.  It should be Euler fraktur, and that font seems
to have disappeared.  *grumble*.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 20:45:01 PDT
From: naor (naor_y@NETVISION.NET.IL)
Subject: what is gospel yeh yeh ?


recently I heard a band called "the make up" and I understand
that they represent a trend of alternative christian music
called gospel yeh, yeh which is spreading from washington D.C.
can anyone shed some light on this? what is the music like?
what's the dogma? (if different from "normal" christianity)
what bands fit in the category ? (other then make up)
listies from the D.C area should know all about this.
thanks
naor


p.s
I am certainly not interested in starting a theology debate
( not on this list anyway )
I'm just in for the music.


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:58:20 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lush's middle name?


    Anyone know what Miki and Emma's middle names are? Not that this
has any relevance to anything I'm just curious. Anyone here think
Louise from Sleeper and the girl from Scheer look alike? I Do!

                                        Brian

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:37:40 -0500
From: Read Dawkins (jeheindl@AMHERST.EDU)
Subject: Re: lush in connecticut


If this is the one sponsored by the Hartford modern rock station and if
its at the amusement park (sorry I'm so sketchy) it's onlo $17.50.  I
don't know the line-up.  I've been  trying to find out, but have as yet
had no luck.

jason eugene

On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, lorelei tremolor wrote:

> does anyone know how much the festival in connecticut costs?  i heard it
> was something like $50.
>
> also, i'd like to know the lineup...and if the show has sold out yet.
> someone, please respond...
>
>
> lorraine
>


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:31:41 -0500
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: what is gospel yeh yeh ?


naor wrote:
> recently I heard a band called "the make up" and I understand
> that they represent a trend of alternative christian music
> called gospel yeh, yeh which is spreading from washington D.C.
> can anyone shed some light on this? what is the music like?
> what's the dogma? (if different from "normal" christianity)
> what bands fit in the category ? (other then make up)
> listies from the D.C area should know all about this.

Admittedly I've only listened to my copy of the Make-Up album a coupla times, an

even at that, those listens were cursory at best, which might explain the fact t
at
I have yet to pick up on this "gospel yeh yeh" thing even if the Second Coming w
re
to have happened in the middle of Side Two.  That said, large parts of the album
did remind me of an odd hybrid of good ole-fashioned punk rawk with a goodly amo
nt
of revivalist James Brown whoopin'n'yellin', but again, the gospel element has y
t
to hit me full on.

Groovy hairdo's nonetheless, don't you think?

Anyway, isn't there an indie band called Soul Coughing whose schtick is doing ol

gospel numbers Jon Spencer style?

On a more thislisty angle, has any lucky soul out there picked up the new album 
y
Trembling Blue Stars (the new "project" of Bobby Wratten of Field Mice and North
rn
Picture Library fame)?  Reviews, recommendations, discouragements, raves, or
slander, anyone?  :)

Cheers,


hk
--
"this world is not my home,
 this world is not my home,
 this world is not my home,
 i'm just passing through..." -- hnia


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:07:41 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Scheer interview in Dotpitch




Are these actual pictures of wounds and things?

They turn into witches?

What sexual act would best represent your music?





Original link: http://www.live-wire.com/dotpitch


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 5, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:23:25 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: More scheer...


On http://www.imusic.com/reviews/scheer.html you will find this:

Scheer Infliction (4AD) by: Miss Molly

Inflict Me With Your Artwork

Okay, so even if the gruesome, stitched up, bunched up, pocky-looking flesh
on the cover leaves something to be desired - like maybe a big fat bandage
to cover it up - the music inside's not bad. Vocally, singer Audrey
Gallagher manages a Sundays-Juliana Hatfield-Bjorkesque sound. Combine that
with music that is guitar-driven, heavy and melodic, and it becomes clear
why the term "pop metal" has been bandied about so much when talking about
this band.

Produced by Head (PJ Harvey's "Dry") and mixed by Spike Drake (Pet Shop
Boys, New Order) the tracks on Infliction range from hard-driving, thrusting
numbers like "Shea," "Howling Boy" and "Wish You Were Dead," to slower,
flowing tunes like "Sad Loved Girl," "Goodbye" and the remarkably
Sundays-ish "Babysize." And, as seems to be the fashion these days, there is
even an eleventh "secret" track - a stripped down "Demon" that makes for an
interesting contrast to the earlier metalized version.

Apparently the band members have described their sound as "Pantera in
bedroom slippers." As for me? I'd say they're more like White Zombie in a
silk robe.

----- yeah right...


Secret eleventh track???? I've got the UK cd, or is she talking about the
vinyl version?


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, June 5, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:04:55 -0400
From: DERRICK CRUZ (dcruz@AVALON.NANDO.NET)
Subject: Re: Another cocteau contest....


hurry with this! My show is on Sunday the 8th! (thanks for your work!)
gutterboy

On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Jack B Huynh wrote:

>
> Okay, it looks like I got the okay from the cocteaus that people can win
> backstage passes for their US shows. i have to get the fine details before
> i post the contest, but it's going to  happen! Anyway, there will be two
> winners for each city and the prize is only a backstage pass (not a ticket
> to get into the show). it looks like another trivia question contest.
>
> jack b huynh
> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
>
>                               http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure
>
>


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:51:57 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: any great E-zines??


check out Entropy's site,  there are links to some good online magazines.

I'd reccomend SONIC as they've got their "Butt Load o' Links"

Later all
ARTC







Arthur Chan
Campus Editor
ENTRoPY



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