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Subject: Re: Swirlies No. 3 & 4
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:10:48 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:28:46 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Virgin compilation
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:18:04 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: f currency font/v23 fonts
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:27:21 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: (more) milk & kisses musings
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 06:18:54 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: ...and speaking of the Paladins
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 03:07:54 -0700
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Lanzarote?
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 23:38:03 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ...and speaking of the Paladins
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:32:45 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 11:20:08 BST
From: djt@ROBOTS.OX.AC.UK
Subject: Re: you've got questions...
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:31:51 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: lovesliescrushing
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 01:19:01 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:57:14 -0400
From: my own haze (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Great-Spangled Fritillary
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:59:22 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:05:04 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Swirlies No. 3 & 4
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:26:16 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 04:41:21 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: ...and speaking of Gus Gus
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:24:27 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: For {your listening pleasure} Sale.
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:02:35 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:05:41 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 17:07:29 +0100
From: James Hind (jimbobs@INNOTTS.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Virgin compilation
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:27:42 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Phoenix listies...
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 23:59:14 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: For {your listening pleasure} Sale.
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:34:35 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Vinyl, Bulgarians etc
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:57:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: real time CT files
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 02:19:46 -0400
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: COCTEAU TWINS IN DETROIT!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 03:16:22 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: For yer listening pleasure sale
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:50:26 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: Great-Spangled Fritillary
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:17:12 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: you've got questions...
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:10:54 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: Dif juz/cocteau twins project
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 20:27:53 -0700
From: Danny Dueso (dannyd@ICANECT.NET)
Subject: swallow
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:04:09 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins ticketing
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:49:17 -0400
From: man-sized (anderso1@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu)
Subject: Swirlies No. 3 & 4
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:50:12 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: flea market
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:55:41 -0400
From: man-sized (anderso1@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:49:13 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 02:18:30 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Virgin compilation
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:49:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Cocteau Twins ticketing
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:52:56 -0400
From: liles melissa m (mmlile@FACSTAFF.WM.EDU)
Subject: Thank You Phoenix!
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:49:08 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: CT review in HotWired
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:03:38 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: 5/28/96 1:39 PM
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Ivo has taste.
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:47:35 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:39:45 GMT
From: "Booth, Giles" (Giles.Booth@BBC.CO.UK)
Subject: Ivo has taste.
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:31:08 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: innergroove messages: How to
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:27:25 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re[2]: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:15:39 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:31:03 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:43:20 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: 11 CDs for trade
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:37:01 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lanzarote?
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:24 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:18:49 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:13:15 EDT
From: Ned Norland (nnorland@WALNUT.PRS.K12.NJ.US)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:58:57 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert
Date: 25/05/96 12:12
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:35 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:52:21 -0400
From: Ray Lee (Unrest111@AOL.COM)
Subject: your message
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:07:38 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:43:33 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:26:51 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: f currency font/v23 fonts
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:55 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: olympic death squad - mark robinson
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:27:08 -0400
From: bruce levenstein (bruceL@INTERRAMP.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:04:53 -0500
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: DCD and LG disks for sale.
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:50:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: from AL-BAMA to AL-BUQUERQUE/hk's address
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:31:58 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: The Paladins
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:25:07 -0800
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez_at_SONY-VTM@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:18:43 -0400
From: "Edward E. Hong" (edhong@CYBERCOMM.NET)
Subject: Re: Lanzarote?
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:38:52 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: promos/record store
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:50:08 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:59:10 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: sign me up...
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:32:18 PST
From: NAME: Kennedy Cosker
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:28:05 +0200
From: Andras Salamon (andras@IS.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: you've got questions...
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:40:19 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD New Release Info PART 2
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 09:20:53 -0400
From: Leigh-Anne & Donald Harvill (poohnpiglet@WASHINGTON.XTN.NET)
Subject: Too pure - L
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:06:15 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Raleigh NC Listies???
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:18:09 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: For yer listening 'energy'
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:47:52 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: new comp with lisa gerrard
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:53:02 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Message ("Your message dated Wed, 29 May 96 16:47:58 EDT...")
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:06:34 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Raleigh NC Listies???
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:47:58 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Dewdrops #15 is done
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:39:51 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: swallow
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 09:48:59 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: WHO SAYS SO?
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:37:45 -0700
From: Danny Dueso (dannyd@ICANECT.NET)
Subject: scratchings (vinyl, not pork)
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:37:44 -0400
From: my own haze (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins promo CD info
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:05:29 EDT
From: seann harding (103476.1771@COMPUSERVE.COM)

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:10:48 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Swirlies No. 3 & 4


Matt wrote:

>Swirlies #1:  Some free cassette giveaway at a record store.  Only 50
>copies ever made.  Damon regretted actually counting that as a release,
>but he did.  Oh well...
>
>Error 7" (Damon also said that it was called 'Error' because they all
>hated it and Bill or somebody messed up the counting.  I think it might
>say #1, but it's not...sorry I can't be more specific...this is all from
>memory...)

The 'Error' sleeve says #2, but since the Slumberland 7" was released
earlier on it should say #3. I'm surprised Swirlies hated the 'Error' 7",
since it includes a great version of 'Park the car by the side of the road'.
Anyway, the titles you list all fit in well:

# 1 = cassette giveaway
# 2 = 'Sarah Sitting' 7" (Slumberland) 1992
# 3 = 'Error' 7" (Pop Narcotic) 1992
      (sleeve says # 2)
# 4 = 'Red Fish Dreams - Summer Momento' tour split 2x7" with Kudgel 1992
# 5 = 'What To About Them' 12"/CD-EP (Taang!) 1992
# 6 = 'Blondertongueaudiobaton' LP/CD (Taang!) 1992
# 7 = 'Brokedick Car' 7"/CD-EP (Taang!) 1993
# 8 = 'Working Holiday November' split 7" with Pitchblende (Simple Mach.) 1993
# 9 = 'Sneaky Flutes' CD-EP (Taang!) 1996
#10 = 'They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days In...' CD (Taang!) 1996


With thanks to Brant, tmp and Matt,
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:28:46 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


        Virtually all of The Smiths' and Morrissey's UK vinyl releases
        feature these little messages in the run-off grooves.  Joy
        Division and New Order also used them occasionally. One of
        my favorite examples of this phenomenon from the smiths is
        a bit of self parody:


                I dreamt about stew last night...


        dan


Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:18:04 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Virgin compilation


In the shops today - "Monsters, Robots and Bug Men", AMBT11, part of
Virgin's ongoing double CD compilation series.  (David Toop's "Singing
on Venus", or "Ocean of Sound 2 - the Vocal Tracks" is out today, too).
Compiled by Simon "post rock" Hopkins, here's who's on it (all album
tracks unless otherwise noted):

Foundation, Hair & Skin T. C., Fuxa, Run On (EP track), Ui, Bowery
Electric, Brise Glace, Pram, Magic Hour, Labradford.

Windy & Carl, Godflesh (single track), Sabalon Glitz, Stereolab
(B-side, "Yper Yper Sound"), Cul de Sac, Roy Montgomery, U S Maple,
Space Needle, Stars of the Lid (not mentioned on the back cover for
some reason).

My one minor grumble is that the "Isolationism" compilation managed to
consist mainly of exclusive tracks, so it felt like listening to an
album in its own right rather than a compilation, while this one is
mostly taken from albums, but it looks like a great collection (haven't
listened to it yet, but if the 17 tracks I haven't heard are anything
like the 9 I have, it will probably be amongst my most-listened-to
albums of the year).

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 28/05/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
The Wedding Present - Watusi

Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:27:21 -0400
From: Lush Muse (Lushmuse@AOL.COM)
Subject: f currency font/v23 fonts


hi!

i was wondering about vaughan oliver's f currency font and any other v23/4ad
ones that he created...are any available to be downloaded to be used on
wordperfect?  ...just wondering...

thanks!

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 06:18:54 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: (more) milk & kisses musings


After 3 weeks of waiting for my mail order M&K, wednesday marked the
arriving date... and here are my results:

The album is great. It is one of the CT records that immediately caught my
attention 100% (the other being Treasure). All the tracks, except 'eperdu'
worked very well for me.
 However, i think that the Twins didn=B4t break new ground with this one.
Sure, the songs are great, but I think that the record sound TOO much like
Blue Bell Knoll mixed with some guitars from Four calendar... For example,
the opening chords for 'Calfskin Smack' are IDENTICAL to 'A Kissed Out
Floatboat' from BBK. 'Treasure Hiding' is a rework of 'Pur' and I can=B4t
remember which other track has the identical guitars from 'Summerhead'.

Despite this, the Twins managed to merge the best from these two releases
and ended up with one hell of a good disc! (only they could do it, of
course). For those of you who still don=B4t have the nerve to buy this baby,
don=B4t hesitate and spend some bucks on it. (The Limited Edition has GREAT
artwork, BTW...)

Pepe

 for 96:

1) Treasure  tie!!!   Milk & Kisses
2) Heaven Or Las Vegas
3) Blue Bell Knoll
4) The Moon & The Melodies
5) Sunburst & Snowblind
6) Four Calendar Caf=E9=20
7) Victorialand
8) Garlands

and for the eps...

1) Love=B4s Easy tears
2) Pearly Dewdrops=B4 Drops
3) Aikea Guinea (even this is, maybe, my favorite CT song)
4) Tiny Dynamine
5) Iceblink Luck
6) The blue 'Tishbite' (for Round and An Elan)
7) Sunburst & Snowblind
8) The rest...

Adios!
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 03:07:54 -0700
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Re: ...and speaking of the Paladins


At 08:32 PM 5/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Listies who are curious to what the Paladins sound like, perhaps this will
>(TM)" supporting Jerry Lee Lewis and Social Distortion, with Supersuckers,
>Blasters, Cadillac Tramps, Southern Culture On The Skids, Sun Demons, Los
>Infernos, Custom Made Scare, and...Indbred Jed. There's also a "Car Club
>Show".
>

I accidently saw this band when they played up here in the bay area once,
and I would definitely associate their sound with that of  the above listed
bands. Is it possible that there is another Paladins? I kind of doubt it
because I know that this one is fairly well established, and new band using
that name would probably find out quickly that it was already taken.

Perhaps some bored listie is playing a prank? Please tell me it's a joke, I
promise I'll laugh.     Ha Ha!....whimper....sigh....

-Paul        pauld@best.com

tape quick!  ; )

Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 23:38:03 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lanzarote?


What a mind fuck I just had. In the process of making up a tape for a
friend I just picked out two songs whose titles I did not know, stuck
them next to each other, and then noticed that they are both called
Lanzarote. Who the hell is Lanzarote?? These are two of my favorite
tracks, and I had only ever given them slight attention. Weird.

Extra credit for anyone who knows which albums these are on. :) For
that matter, are there any more??


 e


Sorry for the massive crosspost; I am a megalomaniac. Plus, I miss you
guys!! AWWW!!! 8)

Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 20:32:45 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: ...and speaking of the Paladins


Listies who are curious to what the Paladins sound like, perhaps this will
(TM)" supporting Jerry Lee Lewis and Social Distortion, with Supersuckers,
Blasters, Cadillac Tramps, Southern Culture On The Skids, Sun Demons, Los
Infernos, Custom Made Scare, and...Indbred Jed. There's also a "Car Club
Show".

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 11:20:08 BST
From: djt@ROBOTS.OX.AC.UK
Subject: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert


Hello Friends,

Just got my copy of <> magazine this morning and they are
offering a free DCD promo cassette for <>.  The
catch is...I have to "nominate" three other people to receive a
cassette and information about subscribing to <>, so (1)
if you live in the UK (2) are not a current subscriber to the magazine
(3) would like a promo cassette, and (4) don`t mind a load of junk
mail, send me your postal address. I`ll do it on a first come first
served basis. It`s much better that someone who might appreciate
the music gets a cassette rather than, say, my Grandmother.

I went to the Cocteau Twins concert at the Ministry of Sound in London
on Thursday, and I was pleasantly suprised by it (well, after last years
diabolical South Bank effort, anything would be better!). As well as
playing the majority of the new album, they even played - shock horror -
a song from Treasure. Some of the ambient interpretations were also rather
excellent, with Mark Clifford doing some serious knob twiddling at the
side of the stage. So all of you in the States with tickets should look
forward to the evening - OK?

Love,

David Thorpe.

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:31:51 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: you've got questions...

              at May 29, 96 00:10:54 am

 "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" 
 wrote on Wed, 29 May 1996
 (Subject: you've got questions...)
 > I've got answers...
 >
 > Okay.  "The New Atlantis" is a tough call.  The CD would have been
 > a delight - if it had been SPACEAGE 001 - but it's not.  It's 004,
 > and nearly everything has been (or will be) released already.  So
 > it's full-length price for a lot of retread ground:
 >
 > 2.  Spacemen3 - X-Tacy (Live Intro Theme) -The track missing from
 > the SFTRI issue of "Dreamweapon," restored on the SpaceAge issue.
 > Beautiful and essential, but...  been there/done that.

There's a version of this on the SFTRI "Dreamweapon", isn't there?  I
know the Space Age version has an extra one, but there's really not much
to choose between them (it's basically the same thing as the
Spiritualized "Pure Phase" sound which was discussed last week).

 > For all ye thirsty Bowery
 > Electric/EAR/Jessamine/Spectrum/Labradford/Main fans...

The Gilbert (Wire) / Hampson (Loop/Main) / Kendall (produced most of
Main/Loop) album "Orr" has finally been put out by Mute - a track from
it was on a sampler given away with the Wire magazine about nine months
ago.  I don't think there are any Elastica covers on it.

The verdict on "Monsters, Robots & Bug Men" - Nine out of ten.  There
are two very long (14 min) tracks by Ui and Godflesh, which should have
been savagely edited or left off - the Ui track is a bit too formless
even for a "post rock" compilation, and the Godflesh one is an example
of how things can go horribly wrong when rock groups try to make
hypnotic repetitive dance records.  It gets boring after about five
minutes, and doesn't get better.  But the rest of the album is
magnificent - much of the American stuff is only available here as
hard-to-find and expensive imports (e.g. Jessamine, Windy & Carl, Bardo
Pond), and as it's split roughly 50/50 between the UK and US there's
probably plenty of stuff on it that Americans can't find easily.  (As
for those of you outside the "special relationship", just buy the thing
if you can find it!).  I'd have liked to have some Main and EAR on the
collection (in place of Ui and Godflesh), but that's a very small fly in
some extremely fine ointment.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 29/05/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Orbital - In Sides

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 01:19:01 +0000
From: Tan Thong Yang (tytan@PACIFIC.NET.SG)
Subject: lovesliescrushing


Hi all! Can anyone please tell me what sort of music lovesliescrushing
play?

Can't seem to find their releases here?

Thanks!

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:57:14 -0400
From: my own haze (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Mysterious Scratchings


>On my New Lush album (transaprent vinyl). There are scratchings on side A
>that reads "Browning in a Sea of Brit Pop" and on Side B it says "No I've
>Never Seen a blind man's buff"
>I also found "They've got this much talent" on Black Spring single side B.
>
>Can Anyone can tell me
>1. what they mean?
>2. who scrached these messages?
>3. are they all the same messages on all the Lovelife vinyls released?

1) The first one (I'm guessing here) is a reference to the poet Browning.
The second one, well, you can probably work it out. The third one is from a
scene in Spinal Tap, where the band run into some artist and are all
friendly and howyadoin', and then when he's gone they call him a wanker and
say "He's got this much [holding thumb and forefinger very close together]
talent".

2) This is usually done by whoever masters the vinyl - there's a guy who
goes by the name of Porky who's responsible for a great many messages in
vinyl of the 70s and 80s. I think the band have something to do with it as
well in this case.

3) Probably. Once it's scratched into the master, all copies made from it
will carry that message.

Larry

"Steven won't go to Stockport"
- vinyl scratching

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:59:22 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Great-Spangled Fritillary


For those Cocteau Twins fans who have ever wondered what one looks like,
there's an image of one via this web page:


DON'T ask how I arrived there...


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:05:04 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


On Tue, 28 May 1996 13:39:45 GMT "Booth, Giles" 
>Has anyone noticed any amusing
>(rather than just obscure) ones on 4AD vinyl releases?

The only ones I remember were, I think, from:

(a) "For Love" 10"

A SIDE "What do you call a Lush bass player in Japan?"
B SIDE "Rippon in Nippon"

(b) the double 10" ltd edition of "Spooky"...

"Miki - face like a bulldog chewing a wasp"

"See that Emma - gagging for it"

I THINK that's correct, but I'm doing this from memory...


Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:26:16 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Swirlies No. 3 & 4


I asked Damon that once...and he went through the list.  It's fucked
up...here's what I remember:

Swirlies #1:  Some free cassette giveaway at a record store.  Only 50
copies ever made.  Damon regretted actually counting that as a release,
but he did.  Oh well...

As I don't have any of the release right here in front of me, I'll try to
name them all, you can figure out the order...

Error 7" (Damon also said that it was called 'Error' because they all
hated it and Bill or somebody messed up the counting.  I think it might
say #1, but it's not...sorry I can't be more specific...this is all from
memory...)

Slumberland 7"

Split w/ Kudgel 7"

Split with Pitchblende 7"

What to do about them CD

Brokedick Car CD

Blondertongueaudiobaton CD

They Spent.... CD

Sneakey Flutes CD

And I believe that's it.  Hope that helps...

Matt

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 04:41:21 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


Frank Brinkhuis  writes:

> My personal favourites still are those on the 'Fruit Of The Original Sin'
> Crepuscule compilation:

Wow!  I thought I was the only person in the world that had that
album.

> - Szotlan Szerelmed Veszeeiben Van Mindig
> - Szerelmuk Tortenete

Does that mean anything?

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:24:27 -0400
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: ...and speaking of Gus Gus


So...who has a contact in Iceland that has access to early Gus Gus
recordings/information?

Going back to the Paladins...perhaps their sound would fit on the
"Desperado" soundtrack (which I quite like, by the way--especially the
Latin Playboys tracks which I already had anyway)? Just a guess.

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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:02:35 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: For {your listening pleasure} Sale.


hello everybody.

I have the following items up for auction, which I'll be running for a week
or so.   The FAX items at the bottom of the list I'm looking to trade
(preferably for other FAX).

CD
---------

Aphex Twin-Ventolin (Warp/Sire)
Heidi Berry-S/T (4AD us)
Breeders-Saints (us pro-cd)
Cocteau Twins-Milk and Kisses (u.k. 5 trk album sampler MILKCJ1)
Curve-Cuckoo (anxious/charisma)
Lisa Germano-Energy (us pro-cd)
Lisa Gerrard-The Mirror Pool (4AD us)
Primordia-The Spawn (World Serpent)
Second Voice-Approaching Luna (Hyperium)

Vinyl
---------

Belly-King (us white vinyl)
Clan of Xymox-S/T (us relativity/4AD)
Colourbox-S/T (4AD CAD 508)
Princess Dragon Mom-Library Girl 7" (alley sweeper)
Teargarden-Tired eyes slowly burning (us capitol/nettwerk)

FAX
---------

Elektro
Octopus
Sad World 2
Transonic 3

Inquire within for details at:

srilank@aol.com

Thanks for browsing.

jason

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:05:41 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert


> Hiya David,
>
> If you've not already got three replies, then I would be very interested in
> the free cassette offer!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
        Me too! David.

        Wilder Gonzales Agreda
        Jr. Los claveles 445.
        Urb. Micaela Bastidas
        Los Olivos
        Lima - Peru.

        Regards.

                Wilder

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 17:07:29 +0100
From: James Hind (jimbobs@INNOTTS.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert


Hiya David,

If you've not already got three replies, then I would be very interested in
the free cassette offer!!

Cheers,

James

Postal Address

James Hind
5 The Mill Close
Old Basford
Nottingham NG6 OGB


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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:27:42 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virgin compilation


What Jessamine songs are on that split CD?????

Matt

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 23:59:14 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Phoenix listies...


Are there any Phoenix listies out there...?

I need a small favor (it just takes one phone call).
Please contact me at:

pepegtc@halcon.laguna.ual.mx

I really need your help!

Thank you in advance.


Pepe
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'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:34:35 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: For {your listening pleasure} Sale.


>Lisa Germano-Energy (us pro-cd)

remix? edit? album version?

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:57:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Vinyl, Bulgarians etc


 JoeJanecek@AOL.COM wrote on Tue, 28 May 1996
 (Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings)
 >
 > the scratchings are made when the album master is cut.  they were
 > probably written by the engineer who did the cutting of the master,
 > so the same scratching would be on all copies of a release.  what
 > to write may have been a request of the band (most likely) or
 > someone else.  usually there is the catalog number, a or b marking,
 > and this scratching.
 >
 > I do believe there is a web site somewhere that attempts to collect
 > these scratchings from various albums.  One of the most famous is
 > "porky prime cuts" which used to show up on punk records, and
 > probably earlier records as well.

And still does.  I think Porky's is an independent vinyl mastering
place, in Peckham if I remember rightly.  A bit like Ken Morse and his
rostrum camera (for those of you who watch the credits on British TV
documentaries).

 Dewdrops Records  wrote on Fri, 24 May 1996
 (Subject: The Jive Bombers)
 > The Bulgarian Voices album must have seemed a pretty strange choice
 > too, but at least it falls into Ivo's well-established pattern of
 > heavenly female voices.

When I first heard this album, my reaction was that it was some sort of
hoax, and that eventually Lisa Gerrard and Liz Fraser would admit their
responsibility.  It didn't sound at all strange by 4AD standards.

 Dez <100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote on Sat, 25 May 1996
 (Subject: U Frequencies & other reviews)
 >
 > Labradford - Scenic Recovery (Duophonic 10")
 > I don't know if this limited edition ten-inch is a one-off, or
 > whether they've signed to Duophonic over here.

I think it's a one-off - Duophonic also put out a Tortoise single some
time ago.  The "D'jed" remix 12" is OK but I still can't see the reason
for people's enthusiasm for Tortoise - pleasant enough, but that's all.

 > Two tracks - the a-side is a slow, bass-heavy masterpiece with real
 > percussion(!).  Dark, brooding, paranoid and crackly (or is the
 > latter just the pressing?).  Underwood 5ive (not a typing error on
 > my part) starts with some electronic noise, before heading off into
 > Tortoise territory.  It's almost uptempo by Labradford standards,
 > with Slint-like drums and guitars that wander off into their own
 > timezone.  Fab.

I wasn't so keen, I'll have to listen to it a few more times, though.
The A-side on mine is also crackly, so perhaps it's intentional.

 > Jack - Biography Of A First Son (Too Pure 7")
 > I saw a review in Melody Maker comparing Jack to Tindersticks, so
 > in blissful ignorance I bought this - it was only 99p.  It doesn't
 > really sound much like Tindersticks - even at their most uptempo,
 > they don't sound as rock 'n' roll as this.  It's pretty short and
 > sweet, - almost like Gallon Drunk with strings.  I like it though.
 > In fact it wouldn't sound out of place on Mick Harvey's album of
 > Gainsbourg covers.

Jack are a bit of a letdown - Too Pure have signed a bunch of South
Welsh Blue Aeroplanes wannabees without the talent.  All that eclectic
bohemian folk poetry rock'n'roll stuff needs a bit more conviction to
carry off convincingly.  They would have been hot stuff ten years ago,
perhaps.  Alan McGee could have signed them.

My recommendations this week:

Third Eye Foundation - Semtex.  One of those 12" vinyl thingies, fifty
minutes of FSA going jungle, or Scorn covering My Bloody Valentine, or
something.  It's very good, anyway - noise, rhythm, the odd bit of
melody seeping out now and then.

Various - Succour.  A definite whiff of the joss-stick about this one.
A double CD of modern psychedelic music as a fundraising effort for
Ptolemaic Terrascope, a magazine about the same thing, apparently.
(Psychedelic music, not double CDs).  Some of it is dreadful hippy tosh
by people who obviously smoked one herbal cigarette too many in the
seventies and never found the road out of Glastonbury, some of it is
really superb - the exclusive Flying Saucer Attack track, however, is
not.  Sounds like an outtake from "Further", a bit of guitar strumming
and noise/atmosphere.  There's more than enough great space rock, guitar
noodling and minimalist droning to make up for it, though.

There's apparently a compilation due soon on Virgin of drone-rock called
"Monsters, Robots and Bugmen" which has Labradford, 3EF and others on it
- could be as tasty as "Isolationism".

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 28/05/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
The Wedding Present - Watusi

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 02:19:46 -0400
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: real time CT files




I just put up some new LP reviews in my zine (actually they've
been up for a couple of weeks but anyways....):


There are two songs from the new Cocteau Twins LP
in real time using Internet Wave (Windows only at this point)
and TrueSpeech (Mac and Windows...Windows users
should use IWave though...it sounds a bit better).
The appropriate links to get the audio helper apps
are also there....

And yes, that's not the LP cover, but a place holder from
a 12" that I now forget the name of....

There are some other LPs you might be interested
in also with real time audio files.

-B


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               http://www.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~brendonm
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 03:16:22 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: COCTEAU TWINS IN DETROIT!!!!!!!!


   yes that is right. the cocteau twins will be playing saturday, june 15
at st. albertus church. all ages are welcome and doors open at 6:30 p.m.
tickets go on sale this saturday, june 1st at 10:00 a.m. for advanced
tickets call ticketmaster at 810-645-6666, all ticketmaster locations, or
at the st. andrews hall box office.
   st. albertus church is located at 4168 St. Aubin
   corner of canfield and St. Aubin, three blocks
   east of the I-75 freeway in downtown detroit.

for a map, you can check out my web-zine at
for ticket information check out:
or you can call 313-961-melt for info.

all you detroiters, i'll see you there. i hope this is exciting news to
all of you listies in the detroit area!!!!!
check out page 53 of the new metro times....
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also a gavin bryars retrospective and reviews of the new polvo double rec.
and info on the new sloan album. we will also clear up the rumors on the
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:50:26 -0700
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Re: For yer listening pleasure sale


Ooops! Sorry about that previous post! But incidentally, some of us
(although very few) may actually wonder about that promo single...

and Jason, you may reply privately...

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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:17:12 -0600
From: "Dr. Zeus" (john@CACHE.NET)
Subject: Re: Great-Spangled Fritillary


On Mon, 27 May 1996, the mystery parade wrote:

> For those Cocteau Twins fans who have ever wondered what one looks like,
> there's an image of one via this web page:
>
> http://www.vt.edu:10021/forestry/wildlife/stein/insects.html
>
> DON'T ask how I arrived there...

Um, how did you arrive there?

(sorry.  couldn't resist)

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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:10:54 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: you've got questions...


I've got answers...

Brian James Heileson asks:
>anybody know what happened to swallow?

Mike Mason is now working as Busy Going Crazy, a heavily beat-oriented
ambient/techno project with a decidedly experimental slant. One great EP so
far, "Six Summer Suns", On White Line UK. Louise Trehy is not a 'member' of
BGC, but her voice is sampled (as is Swallow's music) throughout the EP.

Frank Brinkhuis asks:
>I'm more interested in 'The New Atlantis' compilation CD on Space Age, with
>Jessamine, EAR, Spectrum/Jessamine, Bowery Electric. I just got the
>(excellent) Spectrum/ Jessamine CD on Space Age, and I wonder if the comp.
>is just as good. Anyone?

Okay. "The New Atlantis" is a tough call. The CD would have been a delight -
if it had been SPACEAGE 001 - but it's not. It's 004, and nearly everything
has been (or will be) released already. So it's full-length price for a lot
of retread ground:

1. Spectrum/Jessamine - A Pox on You (from the above-mentioned EP) ... which
IS, admittedly, wonderful. Has anyone heard the "Electronic Evocations: A
Tribute to the Silver Apples" 10" on Enraptured - feat. Windy & Carl, Sabine,
Flowchart(Heroine), and a few others...? The SA were one of a kind, but all
these bands really do capture some of their incomparable magic. I'd say the
S/J is one of the best SA tributes yet!)

2. Spacemen3 - X-Tacy (Live Intro Theme) -The track missing from the SFTRI
issue of "Dreamweapon," restored on the SpaceAge issue. Beautiful and
essential, but... been there/done that.

3. EAR - Spacestation - 8:13 more of EAR - if "Beyond the Pale" wasn't quite
enough for you. It's great, of course... but it'll also be on the forthcoming
album (SpaceAge 5?)...

4. Jessamine - I'm Not Afraid of (Electricity) - Double trouble here... it's
a beautiful moment in the Jessamine repetoire, but it's on their first (or
second...) 7", "Cellophane." And it'll supposedly be on the forthcoming
Kranky/SpaceAge(?) album. Nice to have it on CD, but we'll eventually have it
again.

5. EAR - Guitar Feedback Manipulation - from their first, "Mesmerized".

6. Bowery Electric - Out of Phase - Yes, it's a new cut. BUT it'll also be on
their next album. If you can't wait (understandable), pick up the comp. for
this cut alone. If you can wait, save your money and buy the FANTASTIC new
Spiny Anteaters album, "Current" - just released (or soon-to-be) on Kranky.
Finally, the SA 'belong' with their esteemed roster-mates! Wire cover, too...

7. Spacemen3 - Transparent Radiation (Demo). 4:26 ... off of "Forged
Perscriptions." Anyone have any idea what that is?! :-P

8. Spectrum - Antennae - from a forthcoming album, "Forever Alien."

9. Spacemen3 - Repeater (Demo). 7:42 .... from "Losing Touch With Your Mind,"
yet another of endless posthumous S3 releases. Who has more - the Chameleons
or  Spacemen3? Tough call...

10. Spectrum - The New Atlantis. Exclusive track - BUT it's very short (2:40)
and over before you realize it. If you're a Kemberhead, you need it. If
you're just an occasional fan, it's anything but essential. Have we mentioned
that Spiny Anteaters album yet? ;-)

When you do the math - counting in the beautiful package design (WOW, MAN!
THE COLOuRS! THE COLOuRS!!!!!) and the quality of the bands on the
compilation, you still have to wonder whether it's worth shelling out for
when there are so many essentail new albums. Like, say, that Spiny
Anteaters... or:

For all ye thirsty Bowery Electric/EAR/Jessamine/Spectrum/Labradford/Main
fans...

Slug  - The 3 Man Themes (PCP) - good stuff ala TransAm/
"Prasizion"--|--"Motion Pool"

Windsor for the Derby - Calm Hades Float (Trance Syndicate) - 1/2 of Stars of
the Lid!

Analogue - AAD (Sonic Bubblegum) - "...calling all Windy&Carlhounds..."

V/A - Seedmouth (Coldspring UK) - new EAR, Cranioclast, Illusion of Safety,
Lustmord, Inade, Inanna, John Watermann, Deutsch Nepal, etc... sublime dark
(VERY) ambience.

or, of course, a fine little offering by the much-improved and now-essential
Spiny Anteaters.
Hmm... what have I been listening to today? ;-)

Later, listoids

GuerillaG

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 20:27:53 -0700
From: Danny Dueso (dannyd@ICANECT.NET)
Subject: Dif juz/cocteau twins project


Does anybody out there know about a side project that simone raymonde
is doing with members of dif juz,moose, & fuel? Also heard that kevin
shields is remixing a track for the c'twins, is this true?

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:04:09 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: swallow


anybody know what happened to swallow?

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:49:17 -0400
From: man-sized (anderso1@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins ticketing


On Tue, 28 May 1996, liles melissa m wrote:

> Does anyone know how to purchase tickets for the 9:30 club in D.C.
> since they are no longer being handled by ticketmaster?  I've tried
> phoning the club on a number of occassions with no luck...I'm
> desparate...I've also called a couple of music stores up that way and
> no one seems to know...
>                 NEEDS COCTEAU TWINS TICKETS FOR JUNE 9,
>                 Melissa
>
call the 9:30 club. the tickets are handled by protix, so you can look up
that number, or it is often listed in 9:30 ads in the city paper, etc.

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:50:12 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Swirlies No. 3 & 4


This is a really stupid question, and I hardly dare to ask, but does anyone
know what Swirlies #'s 3 and 4 are? One of them must be the split 7" with
Kudgels (which I don't have), but the other one...?

# 1 = 'Sarah Sitting' 7" (Slumberland) 1992
# 2 = 'Error' 7" (Pop Narcotic) 1992
# 3 = ?
# 4 = ?
# 5 = 'What To About Them' 12"/CD-EP (Taang!) 1992
# 6 = 'Blonder Tongue Audiobaton' LP/CD (Taang!) 1992
# 7 = 'Brokedick Car' 7"/CD-EP (Taang!) 1993
# 8 = 'Working Holiday November' 7" (Simple Machines) 1993
# 9 = 'Sneaky Flutes' CD-EP (Taang!) 1996
#10 = 'They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days In...' CD (Taang!) 1996


I love numbers,
sorry,

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:55:41 -0400
From: man-sized (anderso1@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu)
Subject: flea market


does anyone out there in the dc area know when this summer's indie rock
flea market [arlington, va] is going to be held? i haven't heard anything
about it yet.
-lenore

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:49:13 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


>"Steven won't go to Stockport"
>- vinyl scratching

That's New Order 'Substance' FACT 200, side D. eh?

My personal favourites still are those on the 'Fruit Of The Original Sin'
Crepuscule compilation:

- Szotlan Szerelmed Veszeeiben Van Mindig
- Szerelmuk Tortenete



Frank

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Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 02:18:30 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


>Actually, the only artists on 4AD that I know of that ue the scratchings
>are Lush and the Pale Saints.

Oh no! Many others did/do: Modern English, Rema-Rema, Bauhaus, In Camera,
Dif Juz, Matt Johnson, Dance Chapter, The Past 7 Days, My Captains, Birthday
Party, Happy Family, This Mortal Coil(!), A.R,. Kane, M/A/R/R/S/, Frazier
Chorus, Scheer etc.
Even the 'Pressage(s)' LP has one:

- Where is Telegram Sam?

Frank


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Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:49:37 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Virgin compilation


At 14:18 28-05-96 +0100, you wrote:
>In the shops today - "Monsters, Robots and Bug Men", AMBT11, part of
>Virgin's ongoing double CD compilation series.

I'm more interested in 'The New Atlantis' compilation CD on Space Age, with
Jessamine, EAR, Spectrum/Jessamine, Bowery Electric. I just got the
(excellent) Spectrum/ Jessamine CD on Space Age, and I wonder if the comp.
is just as good.
Anyone?

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:52:56 -0400
From: liles melissa m (mmlile@FACSTAFF.WM.EDU)
Subject: Cocteau Twins ticketing


Does anyone know how to purchase tickets for the 9:30 club in D.C.
since they are no longer being handled by ticketmaster?  I've tried
phoning the club on a number of occassions with no luck...I'm
desparate...I've also called a couple of music stores up that way and
no one seems to know...
                NEEDS COCTEAU TWINS TICKETS FOR JUNE 9,
                Melissa

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:49:08 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Thank You Phoenix!


To the Phoenix listies who replied to my mail (You know who you are...):

Thank You Very Much for your response!
If you ever need something, don=B4t hesitate to ask!


Jose (pepe) Camil
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'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:03:38 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: CT review in HotWired


HotWired reviews "Milk & Kisses" (as well as the latest from DJ Krush and


It's a very positive review, although a bit vapid, I think. Bonus: Audio
excerpts from "Rilkean Heart" and "Eperdu". Plus: a discussion area for
the topic "Do the Twins enthrall you or put you to sleep?" with content
that I'm sure will live up to the high standards we've come to expect
from newsgroup/discussion forums.

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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:40:24 -0400
From: Alex Mayo (Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: Mysterious Scratchings


     Well, I did notice one on a Dead Kennedy's LP "BEDTIME FOR
     DEMOCRACY"...it was the old quote 'Power corrupts, and absolute power
     corrupts absolutely.'
        Hawkwind seems to have a few too.....

     Alex.Mayo@ENTEX.com ENTEX Information Systems





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Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings

Date: 5/28/96 1:39 PM The Factory discography (sorry can't recall the URL off-hand) lists an alarming number of these run-out groove messages for their releases. My favourite Smiths one was "Illness as Art". Has anyone noticed any amusing (rather than just obscure) ones on 4AD vinyl releases? -------------------------------------------------------------- - giles.booth@bbc.co.uk - BBC World Service - Room 503CB, Bush House, Strand, London WC2 4PH - 'the fun fur has developed rudimentary intelligence' --------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:47:35 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ivo has taste.


>That does not make one better than the other.

Have you ever heard of the word "subjective"?

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:39:45 GMT
From: "Booth, Giles" (Giles.Booth@BBC.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


The Factory discography (sorry can't recall the URL off-hand) lists an
alarming number of these run-out groove messages for their releases. My
favourite Smiths one was "Illness as Art". Has anyone noticed any amusing
(rather than just obscure) ones on 4AD vinyl releases?

--------------------------------------------------------------

-   giles.booth@bbc.co.uk - BBC World Service

-   Room 503CB, Bush House, Strand, London WC2 4PH

-   'the fun fur has developed rudimentary intelligence'

--------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:31:08 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman (Richieis1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Ivo has taste.


Thank god Ivo has enough taste and enough balls to go out and sign bands that
are out of the ordinary.  I don't know about anyone else's record
collections, but I have records in it from, Elvis, Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster
Cult, Gershwin, U Sirinivas, The Walker Brothers, The Black Crowes, etc.  GET
IT.

Diversity is what gives life its color.  Some people don't like Jazz, some
don't like show tunes, most don't like rock, OH WELL.  That does not make one
better than the other.  Hell if you want to talk about fashion and what bands
wear and bringing back malts & diners, and big muscle cars, and whatever
else. Bands are what they are and people are also.  Are you going to tell me
that a fool dressed in all black with black eyeliner, black nail polish,
white pancake make-up, etc. is any cooler than someone with sideburns and a
leather jacket that says T-BIRDS, than you have to be kidding me.

Once again, at least Ivo signs bands because he thinks they are good.  There
are not to many labels that are willing to do that.

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:27:25 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: innergroove messages: How to


Speaking as someone who has had innergroove messages
etched into a vinyl release, I can tell you it's very
simple. All I did was ask the pressing plant to scratch a
message there and they did it. It's done by scratching the
words directly into the lacquer before the metal stampers
are made. And for those of you who haven't seen stampers,
which are the positive molds used to make an impression of
the record in vinyl (ie. the grooves are raised ridges),
they look like hubcaps!

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:15:39 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re[2]: Mysterious Scratchings


Skinny Puppy those fun-loving neat guys from Vancouver
now disbanded (Goettl RIP) had "We Got The Taste"
scratched on their Chainsaw 12" single which I always
thought was kinda funny. It surely stems from the fact
that they sample Tina Turner singing the same line
from that annoying Pepsi commercial.

***********************************************************
You wanna see me? Know about me?
Look on this web page under Stevenn:

Atelier Design Communications
Steven Venn, b.f.a. - Graphic Designer
139 Golfclub Court, Richmond Hill,
Ontario, CANADA L4C 5E1

(905) 884-2601

"Listen pal, you can't just waltz in here, use my toaster
 and spout universal truths without qualification!"
                                                    -Jude from Hal Hartley's
                                                     "Surviving Desire"

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:31:03 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


Actually, the only artists on 4AD that I know of that ue the scratchings
are Lush and the Pale Saints.  The Eyesore Database lists the vinyl
markings for those albums so just go there and read for yurself...

p.s. - i thought it was "Drowning in a sea of brit pop"???

Matt

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:43:20 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


Great topic! Almost every old cure vinyl has got one of them scratchings, like:

"But if one green bottle should accidentally fall..." and " The queen of
siam in my arms..."

on the UK 12" of Charlotte Sometimes.

And if you take a sharp object you can make these scratchings yourself!
        Also on a compact disc!
                You should try it, it's FUN! DIGGITY DANK! WAHOO!*


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, May 28, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl



* yes me is a fan of Dave and me think Leno sucks...

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:37:01 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: 11 CDs for trade


I've managed to dig up a bunch of CDs I'd like to part with.
I prefer trades, so there's a list of stuff I'm interested in
below the first list.

Lemonheads - Creator
Simple Machines compilation 'The Machines 1990-1993'
Ida - Tales Of Brave Ida
Phil Krauth - Cold Morning
Poole - Alaska Days
Racecar - Girlish
The Proctors - Pinstripes and Englishmen
>>>The next four are electronic/ambient stuff from Waveform
Various - Three A.D.
Tuu - All Our Ancestors
Synaesthetic - A Positive Life
Loop Guru - Duniya

Suggestions for trade:
Moose (post-shoegaze)
Windy & Carl
Heavenly (Decline & Fall of)
Kendra Smith (just to see how bad it really is)
The Felt Tribute album
Northern Picture Library EPs
Labradford
Wire (The Ideal Copy)
Rocketship
Stereolab (Switched On)
Bark Psychosis (Independence)
Denim
Lilys
Anchorage
Chandeen
Frank Black (Teenager of Year)

I'm also open to any suggestions.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:24 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Lanzarote?

              meek" at May 24, 96 11:38:03 pm

 einexile the meek  wrote on Fri, 24 May 1996
 (Subject: Lanzarote?)
 > What a mind fuck I just had.  In the process of making up a tape
 > for a friend I just picked out two songs whose titles I did not
 > know, stuck them next to each other, and then noticed that they are
 > both called Lanzarote.  Who the hell is Lanzarote?? These are two
 > of my favorite tracks, and I had only ever given them slight
 > attention.  Weird.

Holiday resort.  Northernmost of the Canary islands.  For many
interesting facts about Lanzarote, try


British people aren't allowed there this year because our "government"
is now At War With Europe because they won't eat our bull semen, or
something.  So we're not playing with them any more.  I think the War
Cabinet have been eating too many reconstituted beef-style products.

 > Extra credit for anyone who knows which albums these are on.  :)
 > For that matter, are there any more??

Russ Abbott's Twenty Great Holiday Hits, James Last's Music of the
Spanish Isles.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 28/05/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
The Wedding Present - Watusi

Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:18:49 -0400
From: JoeJanecek@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


arthur writes

>  On my New Lush album (transaprent vinyl). There are scratchings on side
> A that reads "Browning in a Sea of Brit Pop" and on Side B it says "No
> I've Never Seen a blind man's buff" I also found "They've got this much
> talent" on Black Spring single side B.
>
> Can Anyone can tell me 1. what they mean? 2. who scrached these
> messages? 3. are they all the same messages on all the Lovelife vinyls
> released?

the scratchings are made when the album master is cut. they were probably
written by the engineer who did the cutting of the master, so the same
scratching would be on all copies of a release. what to write may have been a
request of the band (most likely) or someone else. usually there is the
catalog number, a or b marking, and this scratching.

I do believe there is a web site somewhere that attempts to collect these
scratchings from various albums. One of the most famous is "porky prime cuts"
which used to show up on punk records, and probably earlier records as well.


joe

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:13:15 EDT
From: Ned Norland (nnorland@WALNUT.PRS.K12.NJ.US)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson


I have it on CD, and it's worth buying I think. No real new ground broken,
but there are a coupla greats... Half of it is sorta in the lines of
"Special Angel"/"Isabel" and the rest is "I Hate Milk"/"Neely"...
definitely worth having, even though it's only 10 songs/28 minutes...

as for the air miami EP, last I heard it was supposed to be out last month
(APRIL!)... I've been waiting months for it...

-nednorland
nnorland@walnut.prs.k12.nj.us



-----Princeton Regional Schools takes no responsibility for the
    accuracy or content of the above message.

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:58:57 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing


> lovesliescrushing are a mix of guitar noise and those
> breathyetherealfemalevocals we all love. The songs are all rather
> amorphous (one might say ambient) but -- einexile to the contrary -- most
> of them do have rhyme and reason and progression. If you like My Bloody
> Valentine's "Loveless", the Cocteau Twins' "Victorialand"

    and Slowdive's "Just for a Day"

> and any of the
> noisier stuff that Medicine did, and have some fondness for
> ambient/experimental music, you'll probably like lovesliescrushing.
>
> You can probably get their CD 'bloweyelashwish' by mailorder -- check the
> Usual Sources which are listed in the 4AD-L FAQ at
> . It's on Projekt Records,
> which I believe has a web site of their own, which is probably also
> listed in the FAQ.

        www.projekt.com

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 11:16:00 GMT
From: Paul Walsh (Paul.Walsh@PETROLITE.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert


     Count me in, N&A as follows

     Paul Walsh
     57, Hawthorne Ave.,
     Great Sankey
     Warrington
     Cheshire
     WA5 1RJ

     Paul.Walsh@petrolite.co.uk


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert

Date: 25/05/96 12:12 Hello Friends, Just got my copy of <> magazine this morning and they are offering a free DCD promo cassette for <>. The catch is...I have to "nominate" three other people to receive a cassette and information about subscribing to <>, so (1) if you live in the UK (2) are not a current subscriber to the magazine (3) would like a promo cassette, and (4) don`t mind a load of junk mail, send me your postal address. I`ll do it on a first come first served basis. It`s much better that someone who might appreciate the music gets a cassette rather than, say, my Grandmother. I went to the Cocteau Twins concert at the Ministry of Sound in London on Thursday, and I was pleasantly suprised by it (well, after last years diabolical South Bank effort, anything would be better!). As well as playing the majority of the new album, they even played - shock horror - a song from Treasure. Some of the ambient interpretations were also rather excellent, with Mark Clifford doing some serious knob twiddling at the side of the stage. So all of you in the States with tickets should look forward to the evening - OK? Love, David Thorpe.

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:35 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Mysterious Scratchings


On my New Lush album (transaprent vinyl). There are scratchings on side A
that reads "Browning in a Sea of Brit Pop" and on Side B it says "No I've
Never Seen a blind man's buff"
I also found "They've got this much talent" on Black Spring single side B.

Can Anyone can tell me
1. what they mean?
2. who scrached these messages?
3. are they all the same messages on all the Lovelife vinyls released?

Thanx

later,

Arthur Chan

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:52:21 -0400
From: Ray Lee (Unrest111@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


  All vinyl has those little messages.

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:07:38 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: your message


opps...  pardon my stupidity.  that message was intended for mr. rich holtzman.
and after i've been moaning under my breathe about all the people sending
replies about the free tape to the whole list:).

again... i'm sorry,
alan daniel

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:43:33 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson


and by the way, when does that new air miami ep come out?

August 6th. It is supposed to include a 10 min. version of 'Pucker'.
Check out: http://www.erols.com/teembeat/

Frank

+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:26:51 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: olympic death squad - mark robinson


I bought the LP a while ago.  It sounded good, after the first listen,
but then it kind of started to sound monotonous.  I seriously have fallen
in love with every project/record he's been involved with, but this was a
little too generic, like Air Miami outtakes.  The lyrics are innane
(which is kind of to be expected from Mark).  Supposedly, he was drunk,
and he did them all in one night, and in one take, so I don't think Mark
is taking it too seriously.  Kind of dissappointing if you're expecting
another Me.me.me., but it's kind of fun overall.  BTW, I just sold it to
raise money for the ESP Continent CD I found new at Reckless this
weekend....woo hoo!!!

Matt

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:55 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: f currency font/v23 fonts


>i was wondering about vaughan oliver's f currency font and any other v23/4ad
>ones that he created...are any available to be downloaded to be used on
>wordperfect?  ...just wondering...

F Currency font is avaliable as a set of FUSE experimental typefaces. FUSE
is a type magazine and each issue comes with about 4 fonts from 4
designers. It also comes with 4 posters. Some of you might want VO's
poster.

Sorry F currency and the other type faces that he uses are not avaliable
for downloading form the net. FUSE is also ava. in MAC format only.
As for the other fonts you'll need to contact a font seller to buy the
rights to use it.

FUSE is Avaliabe from fontshop, look up the website for info.

later,

Arthur Chan

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:27:08 -0400
From: bruce levenstein (bruceL@INTERRAMP.COM)
Subject: olympic death squad - mark robinson


just wondering if anyone has heard mark robinson's 'olympic death squad'
cd. and by the way, when does that new air miami ep come out?

-bruce

 ------------------------------------------------------------
 |        D is for Desond thrown out of a sleigh         |
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 |     bruce levenstein     brucel@interramp.com     |
 ------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:04:53 -0500
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: DCD Sample Cassette & CT Concert


Is Liz F. *singing* on this tour, or just making tiny yelps?

Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:50:00 PDT
From: "Patrick D. Oltraver" (seraphim@CTS.COM)
Subject: DCD and LG disks for sale.


I'm willing to p[art with these disks.  Contact me personaly for more info.

DEAD CAN DANCE - HIDDEN JEMS
[Unreleased Live Compilation]  $13.00

1. Out of a Serpents Egg (Harp Instrumental)1990 from 'Gothic Spleens'
2. <     > (Lisa/Brendan Song)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
3. <     > (Brendan Song)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
4. <     > (Brendan Song)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
5. <     > (Brendan Song)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
6. <     > (Lisa Solo)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
7. <     > (Lisa Solo)1988-90 from 'Golden Age'
8. Spleens (Brendan Song)1990 from 'Gothic Spleens'
9. Lilian Colours (Medieval Festive March, 1990 Version)1990 from 'Gothic
Spleens'
10.Jejum (Jig Instrumental)1990 from 'Gothic Spleens'
11.Rakim (1990 Version)1990 from 'Gothic Spleens'
12.Oman (1990 Version)1990 from 'Gothic Spleens'
13.At Last (Industrial/Percussion Instrumental)1990 from 'Meditabor'
14.Noctambulist (Brendan Solo w/Hurdy Gurdy & Flute)1990 from 'Meditabor'
15.Mourmer Rose (Brendan Song)1993 from 'Dark Christ-mas'
16.Forest of Souls (Lisa Song)1993 from 'Dark Christ-mas'
17.Karath (1993 Version)1993 from 'Dark Christmas'
18.<     > (Lisa Solo)1993 from 'Live at the Berklee Performance Center'
19.Sailing the Seas (Unreleased)1993 from 'Exit to Eden'
20.Matawa (Video End Credits)1994 from 'Toward the Within'

<     > = Title Unknown

LISA GERRARD - LIVE AT THE THEATRE OF LIVING ARTS
[PHILADELPHIA, 1995] $13.00

1. Gloradin
2. Celon
3. Tristan
4. Sanvean
5. Bylar
6. Ajhon
7. Swans
8. Song of the Sybil
9. Balero
10.Gloradean (From 'Toward the Within' Video)


patchrique olt'ravier
bliss'n'fetish
3950 chippewa ct.
san diego ca 92117
seraphim@cts.com

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:31:58 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: from AL-BAMA to AL-BUQUERQUE/hk's address


My fellow listies...

Might someone be able to point me in the direction of all of the pertinent
records stores in Albuquerque, NM? I will be spending a few days there next
month and need to know how much money I should to squirrel away.

Some things to keep in mind...I LOVE VINYL (esp. 7")!!!!

There you go and thanks in advance...

Roy

P.S. I also need hk farrago's e-mail address...Hello hk?

Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:25:07 -0800
From: Enrique Jimenez (Enrique_Jimenez_at_SONY-VTM@CCMAIL.SGO.SONY.COM)
Subject: The Paladins


     I remember seeing The Paladins in San Diego and in Tijuana like ten
     years ago. I do not know if they still sound the same but they played
     this high energy rockabilly thing, you know?.  They kind of looked
     like Morrissey's current band: Tattoos, greased hair, sideburns a la
     Elvis, tagger clothes and stuff. They were way cool back then, but I
     do not know how they fit into the scheme of things at this time. Is
     this the same band that 4AD has signed?

Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:18:43 -0400
From: "Edward E. Hong" (edhong@CYBERCOMM.NET)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing


At 07:59 PM 5/26/96 -0800, you wrote:
>So when is their second album 'Xuvetyn' going to be released anyway? A
>few months ago we heard it would be a few more months.  I'm tired of
>waiting...

It's out.  I ordered it by mail (direct from Projekt) and it should be on
its way to my doorstep.  Yippee!

- Ed

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:38:52 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lanzarote?


At 11:38 PM 5/24/96, einexile the meek wrote:
>What a mind fuck I just had. In the process of making up a tape for a
>friend I just picked out two songs whose titles I did not know, stuck
>them next to each other, and then noticed that they are both called
>Lanzarote. Who the hell is Lanzarote?? These are two of my favorite
>tracks, and I had only ever given them slight attention. Weird.
>
>Extra credit for anyone who knows which albums these are on. :) For
>that matter, are there any more??
>
>
> e
>
>
>Sorry for the massive crosspost; I am a megalomaniac. Plus, I miss you
>guys!! AWWW!!! 8)

You may miss us, but WE DON'T MISS YOU... EGO-FREAK!

==================================================
"Keep Peace With Your Soul. Strive to be Happy. It's Not Easy Fighting the
20th Century."
              In The Nursery
                                     ~|~
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                                     <">
                                    \/*\/
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                                   _/_/_/_/
                                  _/   _/
                                 _/_/_/
                                _/
                               _/
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      --ooO-(o)-Ooo--  Pagan Man's sidekick gOD.

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:50:08 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: promos/record store


hey rich,

again i'm not sure if you remember me(i know you meet tons of people), but
we met when i interviewed pale saints a couple of years ago.  i used to
dj at wsbf in clemson, sc, and work at manifest discs & tapes and listener's
choice.  i'm now living in durham, nc and work part time at poindexter records.
we are currently not receiving promos from you guys.  i'm sure your not the
guy to contact, but i don't have access to the cmj directory right now.
could you please pass along our address and get us added to the 4ad promo
list?  we sell lots of 4ad releases... god knows i buy everything released.
i even sold some older dead can dance and red house painters by playing them
while i worked.  all help will be greatly appreciated.

take care,
alan daniel

poindexter records
c/o alan daniel
718 9th street
durham, nc 27705

ps. i totally agree with you about 4ad's "diversity" of bands.

Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:59:10 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: lovesliescrushing


lovesliescrushing are a mix of guitar noise and those
breathyetherealfemalevocals we all love. The songs are all rather
amorphous (one might say ambient) but -- einexile to the contrary -- most
of them do have rhyme and reason and progression. If you like My Bloody
Valentine's "Loveless", the Cocteau Twins' "Victorialand" and any of the
noisier stuff that Medicine did, and have some fondness for
ambient/experimental music, you'll probably like lovesliescrushing.

You can probably get their CD 'bloweyelashwish' by mailorder -- check the
Usual Sources which are listed in the 4AD-L FAQ at
which I believe has a web site of their own, which is probably also
listed in the FAQ.

So when is their second album 'Xuvetyn' going to be released anyway? A
few months ago we heard it would be a few more months.  I'm tired of
waiting...

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
            Some outside and some indoors--
            Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:32:18 PST
From: Kennedy Cosker (coskerk%scruzhsa.uucp@SCRUZ.UCSC.EDU)
Subject: sign me up...


From: NAME: Kennedy Cosker FUNC: Mental Health TEL: 454-4795 SUBSCRIBE 4AD-L Kennedy Cosker SET 4AD-L MAIL SET 4AD-L DIGEST

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:28:05 +0200
From: Andras Salamon (andras@IS.CO.ZA)
Subject: Re: Mysterious Scratchings


On Wed, 29 May 1996, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> > - Szotlan Szerelmed Veszeeiben Van Mindig
> > - Szerelmuk Tortenete
>
> Does that mean anything?

Sorry my Hungarian is a bit rusty, but here goes:
    Your Wordless Love is Always On Their Mind
    The Story of Their Love

-- Andras Salamon                   andras@is.co.za

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:40:19 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: you've got questions...


Gil wrote:
>6. Bowery Electric - Out of Phase - Yes, it's a new cut. BUT it'll also be on
>their next album. If you can't wait (understandable), pick up the comp. for
>this cut alone.

Uh, "Out Of Phase" is on their debut album already...

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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 09:20:53 -0400
From: Leigh-Anne & Donald Harvill (poohnpiglet@WASHINGTON.XTN.NET)
Subject: Re: 4AD New Release Info PART 2


> >Plus, if it gets tracks from "The Burden Of Mules" on CD, I'd
> > be satisfied!  Who'd be into a CD reissue of "The Burden Of Mules"?
>
> YES YES YES YES!  And also the _Kansas_ EP.  Oh, yeah--and the Mass
> _Labour of Love_ LP.  And while we're at it how about A.R. Kane's
> _Lolita_ EP?  And the Muses _Chains Changed_? And....
> My understanding is that the Muses first album will be reissued by early
next year (on both 4AD UK and Throwing Muses/Ryko in the States) and
will include the _Chains Changed_ EP and perhaps some of the Muses
pre-4AD demos.  There has been a discussion of this reissue on the
Throwing Music web site. -- drh


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:06:15 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Too pure - L


    Does anybody know how can I subscribe to the Too Pure list?

    I've tried doing the known: Subscribe  to  but have
no success.

    Regards.

                Wilder


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:18:09 -0500
From: Matthew T De Bellis (mdebelli@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Raleigh NC Listies???


I just moved to Raleigh NC this past October, but haven't really been
able to explore around and check out the music scene.  Does anyone know
of some good record stores, venues, etc.???  I'd really appreciate it.  I
only know of Cat's Cradle, but that's in Chapel Hill...

Matt

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:47:52 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: For yer listening 'energy'


>Ooops! Sorry about that previous post! But incidentally, some of us
>(although very few) may actually wonder about that promo single...

for those who wonder;) the Lisa Germano "energy" pro-cd is a 1 tracker on
capitol (dpro-79851) and is the lp version (3:48).

jason

srilank@aol.com


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:53:02 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: new comp with lisa gerrard


hey guys,

for anyone interested, i just talked with steve at vintage vinyl, and he said
they just received copies of a compilation containing four songs(i think four)
recorded by four artists exclusively for this compilation.  the name of it is
_these wings without feathers_ , two of the artists are lisa gerrard and
elija's mantle.  anyone heard of this?

if you want to know more about it(i had to get off the phone right when
he mentioned it), call steve at 847-328-2899.  they do mailorder.

alan


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:06:34 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Message ("Your message dated Wed, 29 May 96 16:47:58 EDT...")


hey guys,

i can't believe i did this twice... in one day no less.  i've been on this list
for years and have never accidentally posted to the entire list before today.  i
had a co-worker smack me on the top of my hand 20 times with a ruler for my sins

hopefully i will not lose my lurker status.

sorry,
alan

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:47:58 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: Raleigh NC Listies???


hey matt,

i moved to durham last august and was in the same boat.  record stores?  i work
part-time at poindexter in durham which is fairly good, except for maybe imports

they take a little longer, and i usually just mailorder them.  in raleigh i've
only been to the schoolkids on hillsburough st.  i think there is a couple of
record exchanges in raleigh... i've only been to the one in chapel hill.  as
far as clubs go, i've seen many a great show at the cat's cradle this past
year.  it couldn't be no more than 30 mins from raleigh, i wouldn't think.
also, the lizard and snake in chapel hill had mark robbinson solo one night,
and the swirlies another.  the only place i've been to in raleigh is the
ritz.  they had the amps once, and mercury rev once.  i think stereolab played
at the brewery for mars aquatic, but i wasn't here and haven't ever been to the
brewery.  i also catch some shows in dc.  not sure if i'm going to the cocteau
twins this time, but i definitely plan to go for dead can dance.  as far as plac
s
to hang out, the only place i frequent in raleigh is the stingray room.  they ha
e
good prices on beer and old pinball machines.  plus they usually play good music

except i've never heard a 4ad band there.  sorry if this is vague... let me know
if i can try to give you more info.

take care,
alan


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:39:51 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Dewdrops #15 is done


After eight months in the making, issue #15 of Dewdrops
is now officially released. Right now there are only 6 copies
in existance until I stop by the copy shop tomorrow.
Subscribers can expect to receive their issues next week.

This issue features an interview with Jason Barron and Scott
Cortez of Astrobrite, plus reviews of Daniel Figgis, Cocteau Twins,
Lycia, Blueboy, The Sensualists, Apples (in stereo), Disco Inferno,
Catchers, and much more! This issue's Arcane Gem is... AR Kane!
(You just knew we had to do that eventually...!) It's their 69
album, reviewed by 4AD-L's own Mr. TooKranky, Gil Gershman.
We cover all sorts of thislisty music under the heading
'uncommon music that deserves to be heard.'

$3 single issue, subscriptions @ $1.50 per issue for any number of issues.
Back issues: $1.35 from #6 to #14. Issues 1-5 are permanently out of
print. It's just better that way. For non-US prices, write me and/or
see our Web page.

with a sigh of relief,
brant

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 09:48:59 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: swallow


>anybody know what happened to swallow?

I dunno maybe they "blew"

*LOL*

later,

Arthur Chan


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:37:45 -0700
From: Danny Dueso (dannyd@ICANECT.NET)
Subject: WHO SAYS SO?


Hi my name is danny, I currently have one copy of dif juz who says so
lp on red flame. I have only one copy left, so first come, first serve!!
the lp is in mint condition, this is a rare jem. $40.00 + 4.00 for
shipping.  I also have:
esp summer- limited ed."10 $6.50
alisons halo-dozen "7 $3.50 ( like slowdive, beautiful!!)
spoonfed hybrid-scary verlain "7 $4.50 ( french import )
woo-cosy on the the inside cd $6.50 (sounds like d.column, very nice)
scenic-incident at cima cd $10.25
I also have many items on time stereo, just e-mail for more info on
diffrent items that are available. Well that's it for now.
danny
p.s
e-mail me at
dannyd@icanect.net

Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:37:44 -0400
From: my own haze (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: scratchings (vinyl, not pork)


Lars wrote:

>> - Szotlan Szerelmed Veszeeiben Van Mindig
>> - Szerelmuk Tortenete
>
>Does that mean anything?

Yes. It's Hungarian. I can find out what it means in a day or so, if you'd like.

Larry


Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:05:29 EDT
From: seann harding (103476.1771@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Cocteau Twins promo CD info


In Canada, PolyGram prepared a very nifty promo CD to help launch
"Milk & Kisses".  Instead of just featuring tracks from "M&K", the CD
features tracks from throughout the entire CT catalogue.  It is such a
nice promo I felt like describing it for those not in Canada who are
unaware just how excellent a job PolyGram does in promoting bands
ontheir roster.  The biggest problem I have with the promo is just that -
it'sa promo.  It's definitely worthy of receiving a commercial release!
Here are the details...

                COCTEAU TWINS
                (a taste of) milk & kisses
                PCD436
                Fontana via Mercury/Polydor

                Sugar Hiccup (Album version)
                Aikea-Guinea
                Lorelei
                Donimo
                Feet-Like Fins
                Carolyn's Fingers
                A Kissed Out Red Floatboat
                Iceblink Luck
                Heaven Or Las Vegas
                Wolf In The Breast
                Bluebeard
                Evangeline
                Pink Orange Red ("Twinlights" version)
                Rilkean Heart (Album version)
                Treasure Hiding
                Tishbite
                Seekers Who Are Lovers

The total running time is 74:40.  Artwork is adapted from "M&K"
designs, with the front cover almost identical to "M&K" other than
the "(a taste of)" part, "a cocteau twins music sampler" and the
"treasure" web site address tastefully included.

The inner text of the CD booklet reads:

The beauty of the Cocteau Twins is their instinct for survival, and
their quest for musical glory.  The earth turns on its weary axis and t
he Cocteau twins live on, invincible, constantly coming up with the
goods, forever infusing the world with their peculiar perfume.

Written in a little house in Brittany for two months, and then recorded
at Pors Poulhan, Bretagne & their own studio September sounds in
Twickenham, "Milk & Kisses" is the band's ninth album.  Robin
describes its recording process as "concise"; Simon expands "It
was more like "Treasure".  We were all in the studio at the same
time."

"Milk & Kisses" is markedly different from its predecessor, more up
ad down, plantive at one end, distorted and anxious at the other.
Liz described the mood as "more exaggerated than any other
albums  really.  Very, very sad and more realistic than ever."  Further
deatails are not forthcoming, needless to say, the recognisable
word count is lower than on "Four Calendar Cafe" but tantalizing
nontheless  "Some of are very lyrical, some of them aren't.  The
lyrical ones were when Liz was going through a little bit of pain",
offers Robin, "That's my perspective anyway."

We consider ourselves very fortunate to distribute the entire
Cocteau Twins catalogue.  This Canadian-only retrospective
attempts to capture a unique aural journey from one of the world's
most innovative groups.  We hope you enjoy listening, as much
as we enjoyed putting it together.

...Yeah, when it comes to a true love of the stuff they release, it's
the folks at PolyGram, or Mercury/Polydor as they're now called,
that come to mind when thinking of major labels.  In Canada, 4AD
is handled by them (excepting Belly and Throwing Muses) and you
can tell they really like the music from the work they put into
promotion material similar to the Cocteau Twins promo.  Mercury/
Polydor also distribute Beggars Banquet, Go! Discs,and This Way
Up among others including the trio of PolyGram-owned companies
A&M, Island and Motown.  At any rate, i can't say enough good things
about the people at Mercury/Polydor here in Canada.  They love the
music, they love creating innovative promo stuff and do it all so
consistently that I am vastly impressed.  I'm constantly amazed at
the work they do.

Well, that's the brief recap of the PolyGram "Milk & Kisses" promo
CD, released only in Canada, but worthy of worldwide attention...

Jeff

jscottc@interlog.com