Subject: Looking for Cocteau Web Site
Subject: Dewdrops news
Subject: Re: nephilim
Subject: Re: nephilim II
Subject: Re: nephilim II
Subject: Re: Who? (was: new stuff in general)
Subject: stars on ESP
Subject: HNIA
Subject: Admin question
Subject: Stars on ESP
Subject: Re: Looking for Cocteau Web Site
Subject: Upcoming releases (Scala etc.)
Subject: Re: Dewdrops news
Subject: Mojave 3 in L.A.
Subject: Re: HNIA
Subject: Underworld/new CT LP thoughts
Subject: 13 Year Itch For Auction
Subject: Re: 13 Year Itch For Auction
Subject: cocteau twins tour
Subject: Re: new CT LP thoughts
Subject: Re: 13 Year Itch For Auction
Subject: Tarnation Concert
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 02:45:16 EST
I can't seem to find the Cocteau Twins web site. Yes I have tried the
connection in the FAQ, it doesn't work, just like my bookmarks and whole lot of
other connections I have tried. Someone probably announced the new location
before and I will be terribly embarrassed, so just email me privately. I need
to visit the site regularly so I can continue to be depressed by the fact there
are no plans to tour Australia.
David Boughey
Charismatic Megafauna
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 23:39:19 -0700
Here are some more or less relevant news notes from Dewdrops:
Issue 15. Yes we know the last issue came out last August,
but the next is very nearly ready. Trust me.
The 'Christmas' single. I really can't say when we'll finally
have these ready. We've had the records since January, but
SOMEONE hasn't been committed enough to get anything done on
finishing the packaging. At least there's a good excuse:
Pat and Eleanor just had a baby girl on Wednesday afternoon.
This will all but end Pat's involvement with Dewdrops.
Our latest home brew, for now just dubbed 'baby brew', turned
out great! For now the only way you can experience some quality
brew is to pay us a visit.
My favorite new band, Eight Page Story, is playing Saturday night
in Pomona at Haven. Think Sundays. Think wonderful indiepop.
Now stop thinking and just GO already!
My other favorite band of some acquaintance, Honeywater, is playing
TONIGHT, Friday, at the E-Bar in Pasadena.
Foreteen. The more I think about it, the more I'm wondering if it
makes sense to do another 4AD tribute. I mean, I'd love to,
and this one would be SO MUCH BETTER than Thurtene, but
I'm torn between doing that and putting out a straight compilation
of all these wonderful bands I want people to hear, and wouldn't
they be taken more seriously with their own material
rather than doing a 4AD cover? Plus a lot of people (me included)
are kinda down on 4AD of late, and perhaps a tribute
would seem out of place. I welcome any comments.
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 08:51:26 +0100
On Thu, 16 May 1996 14:32:43 -0500 [email protected]
>why does "Elizium" and "Earth Inferno" have 90% of the same songs on
>both?
I'm not certain, but - isn't one a compilation and one a live album? Or was
the compilation called something else? This is silly. I've GOT the thing,
but I can't remember its title. I'm at work y'see...
Still, I'm looking forward to McCoy's Nefilim at the Astoria in a week's time.
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 09:04:18 +0100
Please ignore my last posting, because...
>On Thu, 16 May 1996 14:32:43 -0500
>[email protected] wrote:
>>why does "Elizium" and "Earth Inferno" have 90% of the same songs on
>>both?
>
>I'm not certain, but - isn't one a compilation and one a live album? Or was
>the compilation called something else? This is silly. I've GOT the thing,
>but I can't remember its title. I'm at work y'see...
No, no NO STOP! I've just remembered. "Elyzium" is the band's (second?)
studio album. "Earth Inferno" is a live album (probably of the "Elysium" tour)
Glad I straighted that one out.
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 03:16:59 PDT
Laura (CD compilation of Burning the fields and Return to Gehenna)
Dawnrazor (1st studio LP)
The Nephilim (2nd Studio LP)
Elyzium (3rd Studio LP)
Earth Inferno (Live DB LP)
Revelation (Double Compilation CD)
BBC Concerts (Live)
Nefilim
Nefilim is brillaint. Speed metal with a bit of the old Neph thrown in. Got the
td edition,
with booklet in box etc. Very nice
Chris
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 06:43:41 -0400
>Thomas Koner. I just got anice message from somoene on the ambient list
>recommending his work and would like some opinions from people here. My
>interest is particularly piqued since this guy wrote me largely in
>agreement with a comment I made about the "holy trinity" of On Land, The
>Pearl, and Sleeps with the Fishes.
I have Ko"ner's "Teimo" which is really good - a lot of very subtle sub bass
drones that build up slowly, with some weird metallic sounds in the
distance. Someone I know compared it favourably with Eno's "Neroli".
Larry
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 06:49:42 -0500
I managed to get a hold of a copy of this yesterday and have been listening
to it virtually non-stop since. In addition to what BiZ had said about it
(which I believe I agree with) I have the following to add...
As far as how this compares to other HNIA albums: I would say that is
least like Livonia and most like HIIYH with hints of MBM here and there.
This album seems to be a successor to HIIYH albeit much less dark (kind of
like HIIYH lite). Now this is not necessarily a bad thing, just different.
In much the same way as HIIYH, much of the disc just flows from one song to
another with little in the way of concernable silence to indicate one
song's ending and another's beginning.
One problem I have with it, however, is the odd mix Warren made. Almost
all of the vocals are slightly muffled. Because of this, Karen's beautiful
voice is missing that cleanness and clarity that I have always been a
sucker for.
Drums are *very* far back in the mix and are therefore much quieter than
one would expect them to be. The guitars are as prominent as they were on
HIIYH and sound very similar, too (especially the acoustics).
Anyway, these are just some of my initial impressions. BTW, when is the ep
supposed to be released?
Chad
Chad
"I'm not who you think you are"
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:58:48 -0400
Does anyone know the UK and US release dates for the HNIA EP and full-length
CDs?
Thanks in advance,
Tom
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 11:52:53 -0400
sorry to post this to the list.
would the list admin person please contact me directly. thanks
dave-g ([email protected])
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:29:35 -0400
In my opinion, the best way to approach the new HNIA record is to go into
without any preconceptions of what Warren has done and to think of 60's AM
Radio. For me that is what explains the sound and the feel of the record the
best.
bye
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:14:06 -0600
On Sat, 18 May 1996, David Boughey wrote:
> I can't seem to find the Cocteau Twins web site. Yes I have tried the
> connection in the FAQ, it doesn't work, just like my bookmarks and whole lot o
> other connections I have tried. Someone probably announced the new location
> before and I will be terribly embarrassed, so just email me privately. I need
> to visit the site regularly so I can continue to be depressed by the fact ther
> are no plans to tour Australia.
>
> David Boughey
> Charismatic Megafauna
> [email protected]
For now, it's at http://205.147.5.69/
As soon as the virtual server picks up, it'll be at
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 09:48:49 -0700
Some more cullings from Ear/Rational's pre-orders list. These things'll
be released around the end of the month. (To order from Ear/Rational,
check out their web site at www.xmission.com/~ear or send a "help"
message to the auto-responder at [email protected].)
I've sorted these more or less in descending order of thislistiness as I
see it...
>Scala-VDT CDS PURECDO57 $9.25
>New stratospheric guitar-pop-slink from dubby mellow Seefeel offshoot
>Scala (looks to be Seefeel minus Disjecta's Mark Clifford). "VDT"
>threads the needle between Curve or Garbage's swirling, shudder-pop and
>the experimental dub-manipulations of Seefeel, even comparable to
>Portishead, showcasing Seefeel gal Fletcher's sensuous and beyond
>heavenly vocals. CDS with 2 new tracks, plus the "Tears" single as
>bonus tracks! Huge! The "Tears" 7" single is already outtaprint,
>although I've secured a few remaining copies. (Too Pure)
[Yeah, he means "Peacock", not "Fletcher...]
>Combustible Edison-Bluebeard 12"/CDS 60030/60033 $8.25/$9.25
>"Bluebeard" finds the Edisons' lounge-lizard, faux EZ listening music
>at its most romantic and melancholy. Features headswimming cinematic
>remix action by 60's "Space Control" TV series soundtrack composer
>Peter Thomas Soundorchester, upbeat ultra-kitsch tweeking by Nipponese
>DJ/Remix team Fantastic Plastic Machine, and the dance-pop cheese remix
>by St. Etiennel 12" features a bonus Soundorchester Mix. (City Slang)
[Yes, it's _that_ "Bluebeard".]
>Movietone-Useless Landscape 7" PUNK13 $4.00
>Brand New limited edition 7" single from two talented Rachels, one from
>the apparently and sadly disbanded Flying Saucer Attack, and one from
>somewhere else. Glorious fuzz-guitar experimental histrionics,
>sheeting distortion, underpinned by barely audible percussion, and
>Rachel's at times screamed faraway vocals. Only 10^3 pressed.
>Trembling Blue Stars-Her Handwriting CD SHINKHANSEN3CD $19.00
>Debut full-length CD on the former Sarah Label's new Shinkansen imprint
>from Field Mice and Northern Picture Library singer/songwriter/enigma
>Robert Wratten and St. Etienne producer/arranger/musician Ian Catt. A
>heady blend of styles and influences (Massive Attack/St Etienne/American
>Music Club/Pet Shop Boys), and a polished and mesmerising body of
>work. Includes a 7 minute version of their recent single "Abba On the
>Jukebox" and 13 others. Field Mice were Sarah's biggest seller, so
>this should be big. (Shinkansen)
>Jack-Pioneer Soundtracks LP PURE055 $11.75
>New full-length on Too Pure's UK-only vinyl (CD on American Recordings)
>for the moody pop minstrels Jack. Haunting orchestral Smiths or
>Tindersticks-style guitar- pop, with snatches of driving six-string
>flammability, a persuasive string section, and lighthearted la la la
>balladeering. Halfway through it reminds me more of Julian Cope's solo
>work, but earlier comparisons are valid. (Too Pure)
>Cradle-Baba Yaga DLP/CD TOPPLP042/CDO42 $16.75/$19.00
>Cradle is the new band formed by Terry Bickers formerly of House of
>Love and Levitation. A diverse album mixing genres and styles
>comparable to everything from Patti Smith to Nick Drake to superb
>ambient soundscapes. On the Ultimate Label that brought you Submarine,
>so they knows their noise. (Ultimate)
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:27:21 -0700
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Dewdrops Records wrote:
> Foreteen. The more I think about it, the more I'm wondering if it
> makes sense to do another 4AD tribute. I mean, I'd love to,
> and this one would be SO MUCH BETTER than Thurtene, but
> I'm torn between doing that and putting out a straight compilation
> of all these wonderful bands I want people to hear, and wouldn't
> they be taken more seriously with their own material
> rather than doing a 4AD cover? Plus a lot of people (me included)
> are kinda down on 4AD of late, and perhaps a tribute
> would seem out of place. I welcome any comments.
Personally, I've never gotten around to buying a copy of Thurteen because
I am wary of tribute albums (simply for the fact that they are usually
bad) and haven't heard most of the bands on it. On the other hand, I
would snap up a proper compilation in a second with the bands playing
their own material. Then, knowing what these bands are like, I would be
more comfy looking at a tribute. My own preference would be to hear the
bands you've been raving about on their own terms. Imho there are very,
*very* few songwriters who can properly cover someone else's tune, at
least to the point where I'd rather hear it than something they
themselves had written.
On the other hand, I'm kind of a snob. Maybe no one else gives a shit. :)
einexile, future owner of the soviet nuclear arsenal
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 15:49:02 -0400
Mojave 3 will be playing at
Rhino Records Claremont
Saturday May 18th
2pm
followed by Richard Davies 3pm
then Spain at 4pm
Joe
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:27:48 CST
>Does anyone know the UK and US release dates for the HNIA EP and full-length
>CDs?
i've been seeing july 9th for the us version of the album. as for the uk
and ep date, i have no idea.
BiZ
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:44:28 -0500
on 4ad-l daniel klyn
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:54:54 -0700
I've got an extra copy of the 13 Year Itch I'm willing to sell off.
Email bids to me privately, and I'll give a daily update of the high
bid. Bidding will close one week from today. Minimum Bid is $55, as
this is what I paid for it.
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:33:10 -0700
> I've got an extra copy of the 13 Year Itch I'm willing to sell off.
> Email bids to me privately, and I'll give a daily update of the high
> bid. Bidding will close one week from today. Minimum Bid is $55, as
> this is what I paid for it.
$65
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:04:49 -0400
could someone please tell me who is opening up for cocteau twins in atlanta
on June 7, i need to know asap.
thanks,
jennifer
ps- is this seefeel thing just cruel joke? Someone on another list just
posted it like it was a fact and now i'm completely confused.
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 15:28:03 -0600
> A couple of quick thoughts on the new CT "Milk and Kisses":
>
> The LP starts off wonderfully "Violaine" (I think of it as the
> "slinky-sexy-get-laid tune"...
> dunno why--maybe it's the funky bass riff..also love the keys/synth notes
> popping in
> and out of the mix).
> "Serpentskirt"...reminds me of something
> off of "Treasure"--good song.
> "Tishbite" is boring...nothing but a circular guitar riff that
> goes nowhere fast.
> "Calfskin Smack": a deceptively simple song with a real great lyric when
> you finally make it out (yes I know some of you don't want to know what
> Frazier is singing, but it works)
> "Rilkean Heart": along with "Violane" this is my favorite song on the LP
> and includes probably the most moving vocal track(s) Liz Frazier has
> laid down on a recording in a long time...what is it about a series of
> minor chords that
> rip at the heart?
> "Eperdu"...I thought this was going to be the CT's stab at doing
> their own "Stairway to Heaven" -- not in sound, but in the way it starts
> off mellow and
> seems to build...up to nothing. Not bad, not much of anything either.
> "Treasure Hiding" reminds me of "Pur" from "Four Calendar Cafe", so much so
> that it sounds
> like a rewrite. In fact, it's almost the same in structure, right down to
> the delayed guitar solo.
> Not a good sign when a band starts to mimic itself.
>
> Bottom line: if you liked "Blue Bell Knoll" and the LPs after it, you'll
> enjoy this.
> Not as awe-inspiring as "Treasure" but compared to other stuff on the
> radio, which would you choose? The recycling worries me though...
> The concerts should be great though...
Your observations mirror my own. I thought it wasn't bad, though I got
kinda bored fast with some of them.
I really was hoping for a more up-beat, "Garlands" sound. I like their
more "hard core" sound...if that's what you wish to call it.
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