Subject: tortoise 4tapetrade
Subject: Underground Lovers & Ivo remixes
Subject: lovesliescrushing Xuvetyn available
Subject: Projekt festival
Subject: Tour Reactions
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance + Lisa Gerrard Boots
Subject: Fwd: Gescom/Global Comm. reissues
Subject: wow! sarah peacock CAN sing...
Subject: stars on esp -- press info
Subject: stars on esp -- the review (long)
Subject: more hnia press info
Subject: Shinkansen.... SARAH incarnate
Subject: Re: Cure (99% non 4AD)
Subject: Re: what is 'wonderwall'
Subject: Re: wow! sarah peacock CAN sing...
Subject: mini-reviews; buddha on the moon, amp, saddar bazaar...
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:39:59 -0400
This is for a tape trade.
If any of you have anything by: Tortoise, Shallow, Pelican
Daughters, ESP Summer, Eternal, Disjecta, Closedown, Lyd,
Scianspheric, Global Comunication, Alison's Halo, Pram, Neu!, or any
other great group i'd love to make a tape trade.
I have great stuff from : Silvania, Pale Saints, Laika, Pram,
shiFt, Slowdive, MBV, Spacetime Continuum, Seefeel, Cocteau,
Kraftwerk, Cluster, MC5, Swallow, His Name is Alive,
Lovesliescrushing, etc.
Bootlegs would be really great too.
Email me if interested.
Regards.
Wilder.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 17:34:53 +1000
G'day,
> >PS: I have a remix of "I was right" (from the first album, "Leaves Me
> >Blind") which was done by none other than Ivo himself.
> Is 'Leaves Me Blind' really their first album? I have an LP copy (there's a
> CD too) of a self-titled 10-track LP on the Australian SHOCK label, from
> 1990.
Oops. I stand corrected..."Leaves Me Blind" was the second Underground
Lovers release (it was the first on Guernica/4AD though).
> About the Ivo-Remix: do you know if the Ivo remix you mention, is one
of the
> mixes on the 4AD/GUERNICA 'I Was Right' promo-only 12" (GU 2 46)? This 12"
> contains the LP version, and extended mix (10'00") and a remix (3'16"), but
> the label doesn't mention the people involved in the (re)mixing.
My copy of "I was right" come as a bonus disc to the "Dream It Down" CD
of 1994. This disc had:
1. "Las Vegas" (radio mix)
2. "Your Eyes" (shaggy remix)
3. "I Was Right" (extended remix) (10'00)
The disc mentions that the remix of "I Was Right" was by Watts-Russell
comma Ivo full-stop. I presume that is the same remix that appears on the
12" promo.
> > Are there any other Ivo remixes about?
> Maybe one of the 3 remixes of 'Your Eyes', the Shaggy Mix (= the same
> mix as on 13YI), Scoobie Mix and Extended Shaggy Mix, issued on another
> 4AD/GUERNICA promo-only 12" (GUP TWO), is by mr. Watts-Russell too? Anyone?
I believe that all remixes of "Your Eyes" were done by the same two
blokes from Melbourne, Australia (David Chesworth & Robert Goodge), not Ivo.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Geoff.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:39:50 -0700
According to Projekt, the new lovesliescrushing 'Xuvetyn' is finally
available. Also, in case you didn't already know, you can see them live on
the first night (June 25) of the Projekt records festival (in Chicago),
along with Love Spirals Downwards and Lycia.
Take Care,
Ryan
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:39:54 -0700
As I was writing my previous post, I was wondering if it had been mentioned
here before (as I don't recal it being mentioned, so forgive me if it has)
but there will be a Projekt records fetival in Chicago on June 25 and 26.
Night 1: Lycia, Thanatos, lovesliescrushing, Love Spirals Downwards
Night 2: Attrition, Soul Whirling Somewhere, Sean Bowley (of Eden),
Arcanta, Black Tape for a Blue Girl
It will be at the Vic Theater and you can get tickets thru ticketmaster or
directly from projekt.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 09:02:38 PST
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:04:57 -0600
12, 96 11:27:00 am
>
> I have these two boots for sale. Contact me for further information:
>
> DEAD CAN DANCE - HIDDEN JEMS {B&F3}
> [Unreleased Live Compilation] $13.00
>
> LISA GERRARD - LIVE AT THE THEATRE OF LIVING ARTS {B&F4}
> [PHILADELPHIA, 1995] $13.00
>
> **B*L*I*S*S*&*F*E*T*I*S*H**
> ***R*E*C*O*R*D*I*N*G*S***
> [([email protected])]
> <-3950-CHIPPEWA-CT.-SAN-DIEGO->
> <-CA-92117->
>
I am interested in both of these. Please send me information on what
you need for purchase.
jeff
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 14:21:37 -0400
making the gc a *little* bit easier to find--
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In a message dated 96-05-14 13:19:21 EDT, [email protected] (Miles Egan)
>
>According to http://www.bogo.co.uk/dmusic/menu.htm, both Gescom 1 and
>Gescom 2 have just been reissued, as well as Global Comm's Blood Music!!
>(this is a great source of release info, btw)
>
>
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Forwarded message:
Date: 96-05-14 13:19:21 EDT
According to http://www.bogo.co.uk/dmusic/menu.htm, both Gescom 1 and
Gescom 2 have just been reissued, as well as Global Comm's Blood Music!!
(this is a great source of release info, btw)
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:58:38 -0600
picked up the new Scala 7" from EAR/Rational yesterday.
the details:
Scala-Tears b/w Triptych
Too Pure (Pure 56)
so, sarah is singing straightforward, loud&clear....not quite what i
expected after hearing her gasps, sighs, and occasional phrases looped
and recycled on any number of seefeel tracks. yet, this 7" is truly a
jem, and it get's better every time i listen.
'tears' is a rather groovy affair based upon an unrelenting beat in the
'boom-chica-boom-chica' fashion. underneath are some hazyfazy guitars that
fit in perfectly as well as screechingloopedsounds and some grinding
percussive noises that (vaguely) remind me of 'shining road' (cranes).
the vocals make the song...sarah is very soulful and just quite
wonderful. around the middle of the song the beat lets up for a second
or two while sarah holds a note over the hazyfazy, then beat pounds back
in. ace! this is one of those songs that i want to continually turn up
louder.
'triptych' is slower and very slinky. sarah's vocal are reminiscent of
beth gibbons (portishead) and stina nordenstam. i love this song!
looped metallic percussion and a cool bassline provide the basis for
the song, but, again, i think the vocals just make it perfect. it's dark,
but funky. i guess portishead is a reference, but let's use our
imagination and say that this is just totally wonderful without bogging
ourselves down in comparisons (yes, i'm aware i used comparisons; i just
don't won't everyone to think this is a reaction to the whole portishead
thing, because i just don't think it is.)
yeah, this is great stuff. want a copy? write to EAR/Rational at:
[email protected] (no, i'm not their propagandaminister, just trying to be
helpful)
so, my questions: was there a scala album before this? was it this
good? why didn't anyone say anything about it? also, isn't there more
scala being released on toopure in the near future? when & what exactly is
it???
shavingthepavement in colorado....tonight!
.xxx...mark.
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.mark. ([email protected])
now w/silly website:
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 13:05:39 CST
first i'm going to post what i got in a press packet from girlie action --
the publicity agency that's promoting the new hnia. i'll post my SUBJECTIVE
review in a wee bit. . .
the first is a flyer with warren's comments on each song:
his name is alive presents...
stars on esp (4ad)
tracks (a)
1. dub love letter: i recorded ths song the day i got a farfisa organ
2. this world: supposed to be the 1971 heavy blues rock sound
3. bad luck girl: when the tape player in my car broke, i only listened to
oldies radio. it's about some kids i knew when i was younger.
4. what are you wearing tomorrow: song from three years ago --- sort of in
the older style of hnia but includes lyrics about sniffing glue, growing up
in canada, and summertime blues
5. the bees: oldies radio style song -- has a swing-type rhythm.
6. what else is new list: surf type song mixed with the turtles. i tryed
(sic) to write a real negative type song "all you give to me is static.
you're number one on the what else is new list."
7. wall of speed: recorded in canada in a house while it was being built.
4-track, flute, tambourine, guitar, and maracas.
tracks b:
8. universal frequencies: for one week i only listened to good vibrations by
the beach boys.
9. sand: another song about canada
10. i can't live: this is the country song. this was the first song i
started working on after mouth by mouth was done in dec. 1992.
11. answer to rainbow: love song with racy lyrics. "once i wore my apron low
and i couldn't keep you away from my door." rural style wooing. old time.
tracks c:
12. famous goodbye king: "i ain't gonna be your boy no more." this song
mixes three things together:1. a letter i got from a concert promoter in
mexico. 2. trying to break up with a certain girl. 3. coal miners catchin'
black lung disease
13. across the streeet: mark koselek from red house painters wrote the
melody and some of the lyrics
14. movie: trey wrote this song. he wanted to call it "film."
15. last one: a gospel choir came over to my house and i had them sing over
an esp family 45.
hmmm. . .that's kind of longish. i'll put the next press release on another
post.
BiZ
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 16:30:49 -0500
part three of three...(chuckle)
1. dub love letter
starts out with a sample of "last song," followed by dub beats,
really odd guitar chords, a woodwind sounding thing (electric clarinet?)/
karin's voice is really nifty on this song. farfisa...synth flute, guitar
is kind of like an oldies guitar sound...reverb on vox...nice. karin
sounds more child-womanesque (new words rock) than on hiiyh (which is the
only hnia i own).
2. this world is not my home
starts out with really rockabilly (sp?) guitar, then the rawk fades
with a softer guitar picking up the slack. karin sings "this world is not
my home...i can't live at home in this world anymore." btw, the phrase
crops up quite a bit on the cd. real drums on this one, a little '70s elec
guitar in the background...again...nice.
3. bad luck girl
ooohhh! this one starts out with '50s pop music guitar that sort
of creeps up on you. replace karin's voice with dave clark's and we've got
a hit! wonderful retro pop. stereolab would be jealous. chorus is sort
of singsongy. "knock on wood. knock on trees..."
4. what are you wearing tomorrow
this should be on hiiyh (which if i remember right, warren also
said -- see previous message). kind of a lost love sort of thing. you've
heard this sort of thing from hnia before, so i won't elaborate too much.
5. the bees
tambourine, '50s style guitar again, excellent use of the higher
pitch piano (actually sounds like some kind of keyboard) notes. karin
sings a bit higher on this one.
6. what else is new
hnia don their man or astroman costumes for this surf-style tune.
karin's voice kind of dances around the surf-esque guitar/percussion. kind
of reminds me of spy music a bit. chorus is light and bouncy, and karin
does backing vocals courtesy of modern technology.
7. wall of speed
my batteries are dying. may have to pick this one up later. weird
synth sounds like the ones found on the esp summer cassette (ohhh!!!! this
is an upbeat version of more water!!!! now i see the ian masters
connection! duh! how could i be so foolish? for those of you without the
esp continent cd, more water is the darker one with piano "a whisper falls
on a willing ear, from the shore of a far off land..." there are more
lyrics in this one, than the esp continent version, but the influence is
there.
8. universal frequencies
this is the beach boys, plain and simple. how did they get on a
his name is alive cd? warren sings on this. they've got the beats and
everything down pat. still very good, though.
9. the sand that holds the lakes in place
sounds a bit more like older hnia again. i'll skip to the other
stuff before my batteries die...more of the "whisper falls on a willing
ear" phrase.
10. i can't live in this world anymore
guitar at the very beginning reminds me of a song from hiiyh -- oh,
chances are we are mad. kind of a really twisted version of that meets
country. "this world is not my home, i'm just passin' through. i can't
live at home in this world anymore..." for some reason, this phrase seems
to unify the album (pops up in at least three or four songs.)
11. answer to a rainbow at midnight
the beginning almost sounds like they ran it through a sampler or
something. ticking/watery sounds in the background ala esp
summer/continent. more of a pop song. "does your heart beat for me? once
i wore my apron low..."
12. famous goodbye king
again the old-school hnia with weird-warren-produced-this-album
noises in the background. slow-tempo, guitar and light-beat drums.
happier than the hiiyh stuff, but still similar...
13. across the street
starts out with fuzzy guitar and drums. sounds like the song you'd
hear in a made-for-tv movie after the little boy's dog dies -- but in a
good way (?!) i have no idea what i meant, but it's a good tune, trust me
on this one. probably the slowest song on the album. good for quiet
reflection.
14. movie
even though trey wrote this song, it fits right in with the rest of
the album. pretty minimalist stuff ala hiiyh. karin sings high again. a
few simple rhythm-guitar chords. not too complex. i could probably play
this song and i can't even play guitar. still good stuff, though. oh,
there's some sampled feedbacky guitar near the end.
15. last song
this is the gospel choir singing over the esp family record.
that's really all there is to it. karin does a bit of singing at the end.
the choir still sounds sampled here -- i think it's mono converted to
stereo. the choir goes away and karin and some others sing the "this world
is not my home...i can't live at home..." line again. good way to close
the album. wait! there's an extra treat on the end! whiny guitar, rhythm
guitar, karin sings, "when this world's over and done, i'll sleep all day
when i get home." some cello sounding thing at the end for a few seconds.
overall impression of the album:
wonderful. buy it. if you haven't figured it out yet, i don't normally
review stuff i don't like (ok, mini review here -- scheer is yucky, but not
as yucky as everyone else says. don't buy it. the cover art's gross) the
first half of the album is markedly different from your father's hnia
(little oldsmobile reference there) mixing surf/'50s am radio/country
together with the hnia sound. i'd like to hear more of this stuff, though.
it's pretty good.
that's all,
BiZ, HNIA beat reporter
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 13:21:54 CST
here's the contents of a press release from 4ad:
his name is alive - stars on esp
"stars on esp" is HNIA's fourth long player for 4ad (um, no it's not)
regarding one of warn defever's side projects, the esp-beetles, it has been
written "there's a gaping hole where his sensitive side used to be." this
somewhat accurately describes the new hnia lp.
hnia have spent the last three years working on an album which is surfy,
danceable, dubby and friendly.
like neil young and The Band (in caps to signify proper noun) before them,
hnia captures the sound and feeling of middle america while actually coming
at it from a canadian perspective.
like the classic era of cartoons, bullwinkle and bugs bunny, hnia makes
music that, on the surface, seems like it's for children, but can only be
appreciated by adults.
incorporating all thse ideas sounds like a pretty dry listtening, however,
hnia have developed a sort of junk-rock work ethic that allows them to fuck
around with other people's leftovers and really make them shine.
previous hnia lp's have been minimal, sparse, mature, and intelligent.
"stars on esp" is none of these; it is fast, full, it rocks, it swings, it's
funny,it's patterened (sic) after oldies AM radio, it's got some gospel,
some COUNTRY, and a little bit of dub. it's great.
karen's vocals are smooth and sweet. warren's guitar picks all over the
place. trey's drumming is bouncy and swingin'.
warn describes the inspiration behind "stars on esp" as "...oldies radio,
Smile-era brian wilson, phil spector, the echo and reverb of early reggae
and ska, the inspired amateurism of late 60's cult label ESP and the sadly
overlooked recording career of man from u.n.c.l.e. star david mccallum."
most of the songs were written by warren defever, with the following
exceptions; no's 3 & 5 co-written with erika hoffman, no's 8 & 9 co-written
with matthew smith, 13 co-written with mark kozelek (of red house painters),
14 written by trey many (hmmm...no ian masters here).
tracks 2 & 10 were inspired by the woody guthrie/traditional song of the
same name. "last one" is a gospel version of "i can't live at home in this
world anymore" performed by esp family.
the vinyl version of "stars on esp" (available only in the uk) is a mono
remix of the cd you're listening to (damn brits!)
of hnia's previous releases, warn says....
"livonia" (1990) - when i was 16 i was very sensitive and wished i could be
a contemporary composer, too bad, i was slightly retarded and only had one
good idea and some broken stuff.
"home is in your head" (1991) - with the surprising success of "livonia" i
decided to ditch the 4-track and write 28 one-minute songs about how i got
over a difficult adolescence (see livonia)
"mouth by mouth" (1993) - i figured out when i recorded a song it would come
out on an album so i wrote better songs and did some guitar solos.
"king of sweet" (1994) - fake bootleg, junk, ltd ed 2,000.
his name is alive "stars on esp" technical information:
warren defaver (it's ok to use warn), guitar and many other things.
karin oliver, vocals.
trey many, drums.
recorded and mixed: at warren's house.
das all,
BiZ, who's going to take a break before reviewing the cd.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 13:22:01 -0700
hello, sorry for the lack of 4ad content but i thought this might be of
some interest to some of you. this is the liner notes for the Trembling
Blue Stars 7" (shinkansen 1)containing members from Field Mice and
Northern Picture Library, i thought it could explain it better than i.
here you are:
SHINKKANSEN
leaflet no. 1 - april 1996
(HUm...I'm not really sure where to begin, but top left corner seems as
good a place as any, so here goes. Cough.)
OK, this is it- a new record-label, a new anem, new bands, and a
hideous new away-strip - but don't worry, once you get inside you'll
find it's still the same sticky mess it was back in the days wehn we
were - ah, but i promised myself i wouldn't mention that...
So - thank you for buying this TRMBLING BLUE STARS 7", or for
browsing through it, or for picking it up off the floor around your
mate's house and saying hey what's this, and why's it got such a thin
sleeve? yeah, i'm sorry about the sleeve - this will hopefully be
rectified on future releases, though not on the Next one, because
that's already been made, and it's as thin as this. Actually, i might
as well tell you what that next release is, so: it's "thinking of ways
of keeping you warm," debut EP by a brand new band called TOMPOT
BLENNY- and sort of mail-ordering system, so - 7"s aere 2 pounds in the
UK, 2.50 pounds to Europe, and 3 pounds to the rest of the world. That
includes p&p. Cheques payable to SHINKANSEN RECORDINGS...
Also, if you care for this particular record, you might like to
know that there's a whole album of Trmbling blue stars stuff coming out
on May 27th, entitled "her handwriting". 14 songs in all... and i'm
afraid it's CD only - which wasn't an easy decision to make, but nobody
ever really used to buy the vinyl albums when we used to release them
on, um, another label we used to run...
Oh, i'm fed up being coy. I shall say this once and once only. we
used to be SARAH RECORDS and, yes, there is still the odd thing left
for sale, so feel free to write and ask for an up-to-date list. there
done.
That CD is 9/10/11 pounds (UK/Europe/World) by the way...
PO BOX 691
Bristol, BS999 1FG
Tel: 0117 963 6929
there you go, i hope that helped anyone who was curious as to what was
going on with the Sarah people. :)
-robert.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:41:18 -0700
well this Cure thing is as bad now neh far worse than that pathetic
attempt by Love and Rockets. GIVE IT UP GUYS, it is too late to go
gracefully, so at least go before we die laughing,,,euthelene, who's
really ticked off that these groups think that these releases were
worth killing all those defenseless little polymor babies.
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:52:23 -0700
You wrote:
>
>>ok, so this is off topic... what does *wonderwall* refer to, as in
>>the Oasis
>
we;ve been there and done that...it's a really bad movie from the 60s
or the wailing wall in jerusalem or the fact that noel got shagged by
some chick.
>
>AUUUGHH!!! No no no no... _please_ don't mention Oasis (shutter) on
this
>list! I'm feeling ill.
>
here's my pepto bismo, help any?