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Subject: FS: 4AD Promos
Date: 11 May 1996 21:55:44 GMT
From: STRANGE AS ANGELS ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4AD Newsflash!
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:59:05 +0000
From: the mystery parade ([email protected])
Subject: CDs for sale
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:04:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Miles Egan ([email protected])
Subject: DCD in Prague
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:05:39 CET
From: Tomek ([email protected])
Subject: DCD/Cocteaus in Ireland
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:53:38 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush article
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 06:44:13 -0400
From: Omar McGrapefruit ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Almost but not quite (Underground Lovers)
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:22:50 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis ([email protected])
Subject: Re: ACHTUNG! NICHT LISTY (the cure on teevee)
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:30:24 -0400
From: daniel klyn ([email protected])
Subject: Adventure Club
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:44:23 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman ([email protected])
Subject: Pale Saints
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:47:43 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Recommendations?
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:36:49 -0500
From: Steven Venn ([email protected])
Subject: Ralske and Kramer's Whereabouts??
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:27:36 -0800
From: adam ([email protected])
Subject: rhp at McCabes
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:57:53 -0700
From: Matthew Polder ([email protected])
Subject: Impressive music WWW sites ?
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:29:21 +0500
From: Dmitri Bender ([email protected])
Subject: 13 Year Itch and Calender for trade
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:59:56 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: Info on ``THE SOUND``?
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:49:33 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: interview w/RACHEL GOSWELL
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:11:59 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Info on ``THE SOUND``?
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 01:16:14 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Recommendations?
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:40:27 -0300
From: Rodrigo de Sousa Lariu ([email protected])
Subject: Re: interview w/RACHEL GOSWELL
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:46:24 -0400
From: the mystery parade ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Info on ``THE SOUND``?
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:01:37 -0700
From: Ed Wakabayashi ([email protected])
Subject: stars on esp
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:44:02 CST
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])

Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 00:03:02 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson ([email protected])
Subject: FS: 4AD Promos (fwd)


FYI.  And don't say that I never did anything for you!

alex

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Date: 11 May 1996 21:55:44 GMT
From: STRANGE AS ANGELS ([email protected])
Subject: FS: 4AD Promos



I have the following 4AD promos for sale, make me and decent offer and
they're your's:

   ...think I'm getting the hang of it

    1. Lisa Gerrrard / Sanvean
    2. Air Miami / Dolphin Expressway
    3. Liquorice / Cheap Cuts
    4. Heidi Berry / Miracle
    5. scheer / Sometimes
    6. The Wolfgang Press / Christianity (the wicked man remix)
    7. Tarnation / The Well
    8. Kendra Smith / Valley Of The Morning Sun
    9. Red House Painters / Cabezon
   10. Mojave 3 / Love Songs On The Radio (secret track)




    NO BALLS

    1. Red House Painters / Summer Dress
    2. The Wolfgang Press / People Say
    3. Lisa Germano / Cry Wolf
    4. Pale Saints / One Blue Hill
    5. Kendra Smith / Bold Marauder
    6. Air Miami / Airplane Rider
    7. Heidi Berry / The Mountain
    8. Dead Can Dance / Rakim


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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:59:05 +0000
From: the mystery parade ([email protected])
Subject: Re: 4AD Newsflash!


Roy Burns wrote:

> It has also been suggested by these sources that the offices for 4AD US may
> soon be closing up shop entirely. Reasons for this were not given, this is
> all the information I have.

If this would mean less interference from Warner Bros., then I think it's for th

better!


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 00:00:05 -0700
From: einexile the meek ([email protected])
Subject: CDs for sale (fwd)


Why are people selling so much good shit these days?? Spring fever or
something. Yeesh. Kind of depressing...

 e, who hasn't even sold his love spirals downwards cds

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Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:04:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Miles Egan ([email protected])
Subject: CDs for sale


The CDs listed below no longer amuse me, so I've decided to sell them.
My terms:

1. All prices include shipping.
2. The first person to stake a definite claim on a disk gets it.
3. I'm willing to haggle if you want more than two disks.

These are $13:

As One - Reflections on Reflections
Black Dog - Temple of Transparent Balls
Blue - Resistance
Carl Craig - Landcruising
Depth Charge - 9 Deadly Venoms
Beaumont Hannant - Texturology
London Funk Allstars - London Funk Volume 1
PWOG - Record of Breaks
Sandoz - Every Man got Dreaming
Sun Electric - Kitchen
777 - System 7 (with Sinbad, 7:7 Expansion etc.)
T-Power - The Self Evident Truth of an Intuitive Mind
v/a - Fresh Emissions 2CD (Emissions Audio Output comp.)
v/a - Journeys by DJ Coldcut
v/a - Ninja Cuts: flexistentialism 2CD
v/a - True People: The Detroit Techno Album 2CD

These are $9:

Air Liquide - Red
Ambush - Ambush
Cabaret Voltaire - The Conversation 2CD
Lisa Carbon and Friends - Experimental Post-Techno Swing (Sonic)
Coil vs Elph EP (Protection, Glimpse etc.)
Differenz - Jazz Workshop
DJ Food - A Recipe for Disaster
DJ Krush - Meiso (U.K. Version)
Brian Eno / Jah Wobble - Spinner
Facil - S/T
Funky Porcini - Hed Phone Sex (Shadow)
Herbalizer - Remedies (U.K. version)
Higher Intelligence Agency - Colourform
Higher Intelligence Agency - Freefloater
Lightwave - Mundus Subterraneus
Loop Guru - The Third Chamber
Richard Kirk - Virtual State
Richard Kirk - The Number of Magic
Money Mark - Mark's Keyboard Repair (U.K Version)
Ben Neill - Green Machine
Orbital - Orbital (U.S. version of first album)
Plastikman - Sheet One
Rich / Lustmord - Stalker
Adham Shaikh - Journey to the Sun
Seefeel - Polyfusia
Solitaire - Ritual Ground
Spacetime Continuum - Emit Ecaps (Astralwerks)
Speedy J - G Spot (U.K. Version)
Spicelab - A Day on Our Planet
System 7 - Fire + Water (Astralwerks)
Terre Thaemlitz - Soil
Thessalonians - Soulcraft
23 Degrees - ...an endless searching for substance
23 Degrees - Born of Earth's Torments
Underworld - Second Toughest in the Infants
Vapourspace - Themes From Vapourspace
v/a - Earthrise.Ntone.1 2CD
v/a - If You Can't Stand the Beats... 2CD (Ninja Tune Sampler)
v/a - Valis I - Destruction of Syntax

Singles and EPs are $4:

AFX - Analogue Bubblebath
Chemical Brothers - Loops of Fury
Download - Microscopic
FSOL - Lifeforms single
Meat Beat Manifesto - Edge of no Control
Orbital - Halcyon
Orbital - Peel Session
Plastikman - Recycled Plastik
Psychic Warriors of Gaia - Obsidian
Seefeel - Starethrough
u-Ziq - Salsa With Mesquite
Vapourspace - Gravitational Arch of 10


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:05:39 CET
From: Tomek ([email protected])
Subject: DCD in Prague


Hi!
I wonder if anybody wants to go to the DCD concert in Prague on June 11.
I live in Warsaw and would like to know if there is somebody from Poland who
is also interested in it (apart from my friends).
If sb is going there too or just has some info concerning tickets (prices & how
can I book tickets from Warsaw, etc.), please e-mail me privately.
Any suggestions for pre-concert gatherings are also welcome.
                                                            Bye

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:53:38 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" ([email protected])
Subject: DCD/Cocteaus in Ireland


        Just in case there are any fellow listies in Ireland, DCD
        are playing Midnight at the Olympia on Sun 2nd June. Tickets
        are =A315.50. Also rumours abound that the Cocteau Twins are
        playing in Galway during the Arts Festival(27/28th of July).
        One confirmed act are Radiohead. Also recently caught Orbital
        live here in Dublin and it was excellent. Recommend it even=20
        for the visual show if you're not into the sounds. Also if=20
        Brant reads this, I got a copy of "Horsedrawn Wishes" and=20
        some of the tracks are beginning to grow on me so I'm going
        to give them a second chance to impress me live and go see=20
        them next week. Although the scene in Dublin is in a bit of=20
        shock this weekend after a 17yr old girl was crushed to death
        at a Smashing Pumpkins gig here on Sat. night.


      Hugh O'Brien            [email protected]
      "Music has to be sound, otherwise you are lost.Sound
      goes into the inner part of the human soul"-Iannis Xenakis


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 06:44:13 -0400
From: Omar McGrapefruit ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Lush article


>From the LA Times Web Site
>

Jeez, what a piece of typically lousy, get-the-facts-wrong, know-nothing
mainstream press junk. "Aclund" - yeah, whatever. No mention of Miki's
formative experiences with her crazy Hungarian grandmother, nothing about
Steve...

For truly uninspired writing, check out the piece on the Cocteaux in the
Village Voice this week. James Hannaham, a guy apparently so into them that
his e-mail is [email protected], offers his interpretation of some lyrics
like everyone else and then has the nerve/inanity to suggest that Liz used
to sound like Chrissie Hynde imitating Siouxsie Sioux. Still, better than
Raygun.

Larry


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:22:50 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Almost but not quite (Underground Lovers)


Geoff wrote:
>Blind") which was done by none other than Ivo himself.

Is 'Leaves Me Blind' really their first album? I have an LP copy (there's a
CD too) of a self-titled 10-track LP on the Australian SHOCK label, from 1990.

About the Ivo-Remix: do you know if the Ivo remix you mention, is one of the
mixes on the 4AD/GUERNICA 'I Was Right' promo-only 12" (GU 2 46)? This 12"
contains the LP version, and extended mix (10'00") and a remix (3'16"), but
the label doesn't mention the people involved in the (re)mixing.


> Are there any other Ivo remixes about?

Maybe one of the 3 remixes of 'Your Eyes', the Shaggy Mix (= the same mix as
on 13YI), Scoobie Mix and Extended Shaggy Mix, issued on another
4AD/GUERNICA promo-only 12" (GUP TWO), is by mr. Watts-Russell too? Anyone?


Frank

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 09:30:24 -0400
From: daniel klyn ([email protected])
Subject: Re: ACHTUNG! NICHT LISTY (the cure on teevee)



        This will harken back to a sub-sub thread about the
        cure, their new record etc...

        i saw them on tele twice this weekend: saturday night live
        and MTV. The MTV thingy was a mini-concert of sorts.
        I caught the last 45 minutes of the mtv show.

        anyway, i take back everything i said about lingering
        hopes for a return to form for the cure.  they played
        exclusively from the new record on MTV, and played
        'in between days' and 'mint car' on SNL.

        verdict: they were terrible. and bob seemed to be having
        a wonderful, almost gleeful time of it all.  as if the
        entire group (all of whom are new as far as i could tell
        except for the keyboardist, who joined for disintegration?)
        were an advert for prozac or gleeminex, unaware of the stinkiness
        of these new curesongs.  the 200 or so people in the
        audience were paying no attention to the band whatsoever, looking
        around for the camera or were they averting their eyes from the
        sorry sight before them?  i was very very very displeased.
        the new songs sound just as flat and boring live as they do on
        the lp.  the version of 'inbetween days' on SNL was mechanical,
        lifeless.

        in summary, a sad spectacle. i usedto think robert smith was
        _all that_, but am now wondering if the influence of the
        now departed, ex-cure members (lol, porl, simon) is what
        kept songs like 'mint car' and 'friday im in love' from
        being released waay back then.

        dan
        whose as-yet-unborn daughter's name is going to be 'charlotte
        sometimes'....



Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:44:23 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman ([email protected])
Subject: Adventure Club


The adventure club CD was put together by a guy named Alex Luke when he was
in Dallas at the radio station The Edge.  He is now at THE POINT in St. Louis
and he has started his own label the SEEDY SINGLES LABEL. which happens to
feature a single from Frazier Chorus.  Email him at [email protected]

Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:47:43 -0400
From: Rich Holtzman ([email protected])
Subject: Pale Saints


I don't know if I am totally late in posting this but the Pale Saints are no
longer a band.  Colleen has tried out for a bunch of bands, Chris and Graeme
are doing a band together, and Meriel is doing he own thing.

Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:36:49 -0500
From: Steven Venn ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Recommendations?


Here are some London Records Stores, that I
visited last summer which may or may not still
be in business:

On The Beat, 22 Hanway Street, W1 Tube: Tottenham Court Road
Plastic Passion, 2 Blenheim Crescent, W11 Tube: Notting Hill Gate
Rough Trade (this one is great and the store that started the label)
               2 locations: 130 Talbot Road, W1 Tube: Ladbroke Grove
                                     16 Neal's Yard, W1 Tube: Covent Garden
Sister Ray, 94 Berwick St. Soho W1 Tube: Picadilly Circus
Soho Records, 3 Hanway Street, W1 Tube:Tottenham Court Road
Vinyl Solution, 231 Portobello Road, W11 Tube:Ladbroke Grove
Selectadisc, 34 Berwick Street, Tube: Oxford Circus, east on oxford right
at berwick.
Reckless Records, 30 Berwick Street (same as above)

Try some of the shops in Camden Yard as well.

If you're really tied to find Listy stuff then call:

4AD Records
15 Alma Road, London SW18 1AA

Its their record label in their city, so they should
know some other places you can find their stuff.
They have a basement warehouse as well there,
so they might be able to sell you something.
This is where they have done mail order from.
But I would call them first to tell them you're
looking for something. You might even catch
Vaughan Oliver there in between his jaunts
down the Alma.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:27:36 -0800
From: adam ([email protected])
Subject: Ralske and Kramer's Whereabouts??


Hello,
I'm looking to obtain both Kurt Ralske and Kramer's address/phone numbers
to seek out their skills as producers/engineers. Any response will be
appreciated. I believe one of the Dewdrops bands dealt with Kramer and I
know the Ropers had Kurt record their latest full length...if that helps,
Thanks
Adam


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:57:53 -0700
From: Matthew Polder ([email protected])
Subject: rhp at McCabes


Just noticed in the paper that Red House Painters will be playing at
McCabes in Santa Monica June 9th (if I remember that correctly). Unfortunately
I can't go but this would definitely not be something to pass up.

Anybody have an extra ticket for this Friday's Lush show at the Palace? I
was not very diligent in finding out when those went on sale.

matthew


Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:29:21 +0500
From: Dmitri Bender ([email protected])
Subject: Impressive music WWW sites ?


A friend of mine asked me to help him out finding WWW sites packed up with
really impressive design, especially sites related to music (I'd say
"indy" music but the term seems to be a bit overused - non-MTV-crap would
do it though). His goal is to catch the process of getting to those sites
and obtaining some really neat pictures and other thing happening up there
with Betacam camera and represent it later to audience of his music show
on local TV. Down here in Russia people still have quite vague impression
of what Internet looks like and he hopes to get people interested in
getting connected to the Net and finding all the beauty and stuff out
there.

Drop me a line directly in the mail, OK ? I'd hate to overlook responses.

peace,

Dmitri Bender......... [email protected] .................................
.............."Nothing is beautiful from every point of view"....Horace


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 13:59:56 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: 13 Year Itch and Calender for trade


If anyone on this list has a copy/can get a copy of an original movie
poster, in good condition, of "The Princess Bride" I'll trade you the
poster for a 1996 4AD Calender and my copy of "The 13 Year Itch" on CD for
it.
I'm not too sure of the going rate of the poster but if the poster will cost
you more than these two items are worth, I'll up the ante.  If you are
able to locate someone who has the poster and is willing to sell it, and
I end up buying the poster from the person, I'll give you a copy of the
Cocteau Twins' Snow, absolutely free.


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:49:33 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Info on ``THE SOUND``?


Does anyone know what the band called THE SOUND sound like? Vaughn Oliver did
a sleeve for them (I saw it in one of his exhibition catalogues) and I`ve
always wondered what they sounded like. I have a chance to by a CD
compilation for $20 and want to know if it`s worth shelling out money for. If
anyone has heard them, can you compare them to anyone else to give me an
idea? Thanks in advance.

Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 17:11:59 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein ([email protected])
Subject: interview w/RACHEL GOSWELL



I just wanted to tell everyone that I was able to interview Rachel Goswell
of Mojave 3 on Friday May 10, 1975 (my birthday) before their show in St. Louis!
She was really lovely and answered all of my Slowdive/Mojave questions.
Afterwards, she signed my "Holding Our Breath" EP, my BLUE DAY compilation,
and my M3 CD.  I've got the interview on tape.  Once I type it up for my
college radio station's 'zine, I'll send it to de liste.

As for the show....Mojave 3 were beautiful.  The new songs sound great!  It
was really good to see Simon from Chapterhouse on stage again.  Dunno about
the scheer set, I decided to hit the bar for that.  Lush were amazing!  The
OK new songs sounded 10 times better than the LP.  The absolute highlight of
the evening was Lush's last encore when Miki announced their "4AD supergroup"
where Lush performed "Ciao" with Neil Halstead doing Jarvis' vocals, Ian
McCutcheon (M3) on tambourine, and Audrey Gallagher (scheer) doing back-up
"aahh" vocals.  INCREDIBLE.  Neil was drunk as a skunk wearing Ian's cowboy
hat, but it still sounded better than the LP version.

Anyway I had I great time!  If anyone's got any comments, mail them to me, not
the list cuz I'm currently unsubbed.

-Mike Stein
 [email protected]


Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 01:16:14 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Info on ``THE SOUND``?


>Does anyone know what the band called THE SOUND sound like?

They were great! I don't know what's on the compilation but the first two
or three SOUND albums were very good - guitar, bass, drums, male vocals and
good songs - (back in the eighties). In the early days they were compared
to U2 but I never thought that was right. You should listen to it first...
(or isn't that a normal thing to do in the us before you buy a record? I
never buy a record without listenling to it first  - well, except for the
4AD stuff... but that's another story).

The lead singer of The Sound still releases solo-stuff under his real name
- correct me if I'm wrong - 'Adrian Borland'.



Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, May 14, 1996
... [email protected]


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:40:27 -0300
From: Rodrigo de Sousa Lariu ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Recommendations?


E-mail >   [email protected]
She's my sister and she lives there for 2 years now. I think she may help you

>I will be in London in about a week, and, having never been there before,
>was wondering if anybody could recommend any good record stores...
>obviously, I'm looking for thislistie stuff - not rare imported turkish
>chant and frenetic jungle boogies.
>
>


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:46:24 -0400
From: the mystery parade ([email protected])
Subject: Re: interview w/RACHEL GOSWELL


>The absolute highlight of
>the evening was Lush's last encore when Miki announced their "4AD supergroup"
>where Lush performed "Ciao" with Neil Halstead doing Jarvis' vocals, Ian
>McCutcheon (M3) on tambourine, and Audrey Gallagher (scheer) doing back-up
>"aahh" vocals.  INCREDIBLE.  Neil was drunk as a skunk wearing Ian's cowboy
>hat, but it still sounded better than the LP version.
>

Now THERE'S one for the bootlegs!

Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:01:37 -0700
From: Ed Wakabayashi ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Info on ``THE SOUND``?

              14, 96 01:16:14 am

Emiel Efdee said:
>
> >Does anyone know what the band called THE SOUND sound like?
>
> They were great! I don't know what's on the compilation but the first two
> or three SOUND albums were very good - guitar, bass, drums, male vocals and
> good songs - (back in the eighties). In the early days they were compared
> to U2 but I never thought that was right.

They seemed to me somewhat comparable in style to Echo and the Bunnymen.
Their albums do sound a bit dated production-wise but they have that great
80s angst-ish sound.  Renascent in the UK has just released the first of
their reissues which includes 'Heads and Hearts' and 'Shock of Daylight' (EP)
(on one CD) and there should be more coming.

> The lead singer of The Sound still releases solo-stuff under his real name
> - correct me if I'm wrong - 'Adrian Borland'.

Correct!  In fact, he recently finished his fourth (? - the name escapes me
at the present) which will be released in the States on Setanta (the first
US issue of a Borland recording).

Ed
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 21:44:02 CST
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])
Subject: stars on esp


i happen to have an extra copy of this.  i want to trade it for the shaving
kit cd (the track listing's the same as the tape, right?)  if this appeals
to you, e-mail me privately.  i was going to post a review of it tonight,
but my roomie's in studying for an exam.  tomorrow i'll post the review,
along with info culled from the press packet i received, if someone hasn't
already done that.

BiZ