4ad-l Mail for 05-11-1996

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Subject: Why I don't care what other lists say.
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 22:32:39 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@inforamp.net)
Subject: (idm) cd's for sale/trade
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 03:37:53 -0400
From: Ryan G. Pals (fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: this is not an emergency....
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 04:00:55 -0700
From: esp raincloud (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: JENSING THE HUITE -Reply
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 07:26:02 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: Fred to boycott fax??
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:06 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: RHP Kill Your Idols
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:31 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Yet another commercial jingle ...
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 07:46:33 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Wish list
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:52:07 EDT
From: seann harding (103476.1771@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: DCD in Chicago
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 14:28:36 -0500
From: Katherine D Sauer (k-sauer@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU)
Subject: Missing sleeve scans
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 22:01:25 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: stars on esp -- a query
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 19:59:51 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)

Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 01:13:16 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Why I don't care what other lists say. (fwd)


I am forwarding this because I don't think it was posted to the list and
that was obviously the intention. However, I have not received any
listmail for 12 hours, which is odd. Would someone please post something
and Cc: it to me so I can see if there is a problem? Thanks...
 e

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Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 22:32:39 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@inforamp.net)
Subject: Why I don't care what other lists say.


What is the mandate of this list. Sure the FAQ makes
reference to what we're about but that's not carved in
stone I don't think.

I don't think we can talk about Miki Berenyi's hair or Vaughan
Oliver's design or Ivo and his pursuits, 24-7. Face it people this
is a small independent music label and the news is not  always
going to be happening by the minute. I think that discussion of
seemingly trivial things shows how dedicated listies are to
anything of even remote relevance or interest. I would like to know why
these other lists are saying things like that as we don't discuss
them and their activities. Sure I like the X-Files, I like Friends,
I like Star Trek too but I don't knock when those people get
trivial about things. Star trek people can get viscious when it comes
to trivia I know I've been to a convention, man. Its a music list for music
of, by, for or in a related vein to 4AD. That includes Projekt, Creation,
Dewdrops, Bedazzled, One Little Indian, Gyroscope, etc etc.
4AD people are not always going to agree nor have the
same lifestyles or concerns, but the combinations of people and the
common factor of liking 4AD as a musical genre, makes the
list interesting. I think that I have got exposure to a few
bands through this list that commercial crap radio CFNY
102.1 in Toronto would never have even touched. Its ironic that they
are sponsoring Stereolab as they probably never played
even one of their songs, Cornershop? never heard them
on that station. Hell even Tortoise is not "cool" enough in
Alan Cross' eyes (the guy who thinks Tori Amos is the
end all and be all). When advertisers own the airwaves
and radio stations must kiss corporate butt, then bands
like Tortoise and Stereolab rely on word of mouth. As
in a trivial mention of them on a related music list.

I think our mandate should be to keep good music in
the ears and minds of open-minded people tired of
the Billboard-fed diet of marketing crap. It took 4AD
a long time to join Warners and Reprise, but it was one
their terms and remains so. Independent music will
always prevail in the shadow of some corporate hacks,
it has to, otherwise music is a joke and not music (art
per se) at all, but a by-product of some bottom-line.

My $.02 regarding whether this list is important.

Steve

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Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 01:39:43 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: (idm) cd's for sale/trade (fwd)


I thought this would be appropriate here. The kind of stuff more people
should be listening to in return for the kind of stuff most of us are
getting sick of. What better bargain could you hope for? :)

        e

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Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 03:37:53 -0400
From: Ryan G. Pals (fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: (idm) cd's for sale/trade


i tried to mail this before, but i guess it didn't go thru.
here it is again.

i have the following for sale/trade. will trade for dark ambient/
experimental/noise/etc. make offers. i will accept any reasonable
offer. this stuff just needs to go this time. please no offers of
$2 each for a lot of items. these are very good cd's. if you have
any questions, please feel free to email me.

polygon window - quoth (with the hidden track)
aphex twin - on (uk cd1)
aphex twin - ventolin (us)
2 bad mice - kaotic chemistry
the chemical brothers - exit planet dust
curve - blackerthreetrackertwo (the one with the fsol mix)
slo moshun - bells of new york
orb - aubrey mixes
mouse on mars - vulvaland
d'cruze - control
4 hero - parallel universe
omni trio - the deepest cut vol. 1 (uk version of music for...)
deep blue - helicopter
cosmic baby - thinking about my self
jaydee - plastic dreams
bandulu - guidance
orbital - radiccio
tresor ii
the secret life of trance (us)
harthouse - axis of vision (2 cd)
in order to dance 4 (2 cd version)
in order to dance 5 (3 cd version)
planet e - elements of... (petri dish comp)
trance europe express vol. 1-4 (without books)
theory of evolution
drum & bass selection 1 (uk)
drum & bass selection 2 (uk 2 cd)
renegade selector series 2 (uk version. unmixed)
production house - best of jungle vol. 1
speed limit 140 bpm + vol. 3, 4

if need be, i have references. serious inquiries only please.

--
o   _/,_       "Catch a match. A bang bang. A Flaming fist
 . /o...\__//  'O crackerjack. A smack. A lick. A char char.
   \_'__/``\`  You're all burned out."
     \`        fk453@cleveland.freenet.edu


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 04:00:55 -0700
From: esp raincloud (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: this is not an emergency....


  ...it is only a test message.


  *k*

Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 07:26:02 -0400
From: "WILLIAM D. BARRY" (BARRYWD@GWSMTP.NU.COM)
Subject: Re: JENSING THE HUITE -Reply


Assuming people don't know the meanings of simple words is a bit...how do you
say...precocious :)


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:06 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Fred to boycott fax??


FRED (*not* elvia) but FRED said the following--

>  What really is
>sad is that a lot of people on the ambient list are afraid of being kicked
>off if they speak out against FAX.  I am seriously contemplating boycotting
>their product.  I don't know. I have to think about it seriously.


Are you boycotting Fax because you don't particularly care for the material
released, or just to make a point?

jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:31 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: RHP Kill Your Idols


>Hell if Hollywood can plunder all the old tv shows
>why can't RHP do a little interesting work with crappy
>70's icons of pop? We can't all expect RHP do to
>endless Iggy Pop, MC5, Dylan or Bowie. I would love to see
>Lush personally do a Blondie song to show Elastica
>how the whole 70's revival stuff should be done.

In an interview on KCRW awhile back, Mark admitted that he doesn't listen to
a lot of the new music that comes out.  He continued to say that he was into
older stuff like the Cars and *ahem* John Denver.  He gushed to say that
Denver's material was, "some really great stuff."

The song covers that RHP and Mark decide to do don't surprise me too much.  I
speculate that in addition to the covers on the upcoming album on Island, we
can also look forward with great confidence in a Christmas '96 release of
'RHP vs. the 70's preservation society'.

...and you thought they were booted for an extended guitar solo :)

jason

srilank@aol.com


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 07:46:33 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Yet another commercial jingle ...


You wrote:
>
>By the time I made my way in front of the TV, all that
>> awaited me was a lemon-yellow screen with the Microsoft logo in the
center.

although a different commerical, i heard Chemical brothers "chemical
beats" (or was it 'fuck up beats?') on a microsoft commerical aswell,
shrug. crazy crazy crazy :)


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:52:07 EDT
From: seann harding (103476.1771@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Wish list


Should anyone have an extra copy of the following or is willing to part
with their's, please e-mail me:

BAD 806 CD  ULTRA VIVID SCENE: She Screamed  CD single, 1988
BAD 910 CD  PALE SAINTS: Barging Into...  CD single, 1989

Somehow, I managed to miss out on these when they were originally
released.  I saw the Pale Saints CD but didn't buy it at the time because
I thought it would be available for longer than it was.

e-mail me either at the above CompuServe address (my friend Seann's
address) or jscottc@interlog.com with asking prices...

Thanks!
Jeff Keibel


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 14:28:36 -0500
From: Katherine D Sauer (k-sauer@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU)
Subject: DCD in Chicago


Hello all,

Does anyone know details about Dead Can Dance playing in
Chicago 24/25th of July?  That is, where are they playing
and when do tickets go on sale, and through who do we buy
them???

Thanks very much....
Trina

ps  What is up with Shaving the Pavement in St Louis?? I
thought they were playing there last night (the 10th) and
now I looked at the official 4ad web site, and they say
they are supposed to be there *tonight* (the 11th).  I will
be sooooo mad!  I could not go last night, but I could have
gone tonight if I had known.......sigh.

--
Katherine (Trina) Sauer
Graduate Student and Goddess of Funkosity
Environmental Engineering and Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

k-sauer@uiuc.edu


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 22:01:25 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Missing sleeve scans


I have now received a whopping 40 new scans, which brings the total up
to 390.  So I thought it might be time to go through the discography
and make a list of all the scans that are missing.  If you own any of
these releases and have access to a scanner, I would be most grateful
if you could take some time and scan those items.

Daniel Ash & Glenn Campling
Tones On Tail

Bauhaus
Dark Entries
Terror Couple Kill Colonel
Telegram Sam
4.A.D

Bearz
She's My Girl

The Birthday Party
The Friend Catcher
Release The Bats
Mr. Clarinet
The Bad Seed

Xymox
Blind Hearts

Cocteau Twins
The Spangle Maker

Colourbox
Colourbox (MAD315)
Colourbox (MAD315CD)

Cupol
Like This For Ages

Rene Halkett / David Jay
Nothing

Rowland S. Howard / Lydia Lunch
Some Velvet Morning

In Camera
Fin

Mass
You And I
Labour Of Love

Modern English
Gathering Dust

Colin Newman
Provisionally Entitled The Singing Fish

Scheer
Shéa
Wish You Were Dead

Shox
No Turning Back

This Mortal Coil
1983-1991 (box set)

Various
Natures Mortes - Still Lives
...and dog bones, too
92 (tape, CMJ showcase)
93 (tape)

Xmal Deutschland
Incubus Succubus II

That wasn't as many as I'd thought, really.  After adding these, the
discography will be complete, sleeve-wise.

Crank those scanners up!  :-)


--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 19:59:51 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: stars on esp -- a query


hi.  i got an advanced copy of stars on esp (yes, i will post a review in
the coming days) and was wondering something. . .someone mentioned that ian
masters sang a track on this.  i don't hear his voice anywhere on the thing.
am i missing it?  is it on the same track as mark k's vox (btw, that song
reminds me of the beach boys -- sort of)?

thanks for your help, and i will post a song-by-song review.  i'm just a bit
apprehensive, having only heard hiiyh.

BiZ