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Subject: Re: Whore Rankings
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:58:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Stereolab
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 21:13:54 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab in SF
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:42:35 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:20:13 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Kitchens Review
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 03:09:22 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Windy & Carl/Cure/Nearly God
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 03:05:42 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: stars on esp v23
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 01:28:02 -0700
From: esp raincloud (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Kitchens Review
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 09:56:17 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins (Addicted to Noise Interview)
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:49:41 +0200
From: Me again (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Cure (99% non 4AD)
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:30:26 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Ultra Vivid Scene
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 06:53:07 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: (idm) Aphex, Orbital...
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 03:25:28
From: Fresh/Gonzi Merchan (GMerchan@gnn.com)
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:03:16 -0400
From: naranjas en la cabeza (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Windy & Carl/Cure/Nearly God
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 07:33:19 +0200
From: "zavala)"@DOCS.CCS.CONACYT.MX
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:16:27 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY - COOL CD'S FOR TRADE!!!!!
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:50:36 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Mail replies (was: Re: VW song)
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:23:00 BST
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Bob Mould Alert!!!
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:23:31 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Non 4AD: Message for Jesus Castro
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:24:44 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Area CDs
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:18:44 EDT
From: "Glen T. Greenman" (102724.3265@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Tortoise (and Lush VW)
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:58:13 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: STP Toronto Part 1: The Pre-Shave
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:59:16 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:04:25 -0700
From: Rocky Colavito (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: !!!!!!!MARK EITZEL TO PLAY BUFFALO, NY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:19:16 -0400
From: Antenna73@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:33:30 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:37:19 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: detroit StP
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:12:44 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: music and TV
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:22:55 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Nearly God
Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:20:36 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: I'm official!!!!
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:31:07 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush in france ?
Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:08:30 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)

Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:58:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Whore Rankings


>         Oh, and that WMO (Wire Mail Order) address again:
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/wmo/

Is whore available only through mail order?

>
>         Makes me really want to pick up the _Behind The Curtain_
> collection of demos & live stuff, too.

Heard it, really not worth anything.  It just made me think yet again
how important the production (and producer Mike Thorne) was to
the incredible wire sound of _Chairs Missing_ and _154_.

moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 21:13:54 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab


Saw Stereolab in Portland last night.

A very intoxicating performance. It looked a bit routine to the groop, but
the sound was intense nonetheless. Tim spent a lot of time kneeling in front
of his amp and effects while Laetitia swayed beautifully from moog to mike.
Their encore was a lovely and massive 30 minute long "amorphous" mixture
of about four different songs I think, bleeding into one another... The
wall of noise was so unceasingly intense that you found yourself evolving
through different parts of the music without knowing how you got there.
All sense of time was vanquished. I was simply mesmerized, like much of
the crowd was. The lighting effects helped a lot with rich and
changing colors and strobe lights. They are true artists.

Prolapse was very interesting as well, though that guy singer made me think
of an Irish Fred Schnieder on drugs (tee hee).....

_Bri

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:42:35 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab in SF


another chime-in on the recent Stereolab double show in San Fransisco:

If you have an opportunity to see them twice in the same night, by all
means do so. The first show was wonderful and featured most of their
poppier things. The second show touched on a couple of the same tunes,
but seemed to be rather different than the first time around. It seemed
to me that there were very little technical problems - given the thirty
year old equiptment, I think they handle it admirably. There were
absolutely mysterious things about them - the songs themselves were some
of the most complex/intense instrumentations I have ever heard, yet they
seemed to perform so effortlessly and happily. Also It seems that there
are times when parts of their songs are completely accidental - as when
the moog sorta takes over at the end of the song and they very subtly
alter the structure of the song to deal with this wild beast of a moog
that rather has a mind of its own. They did things with drums (both live
and sampled) that I dont think I will ever comprehend, but it sounded
amazing. There were times when they ran the entire drum kit through some
sort of echo unit. But there was also a casio-like drum track that seemed
to be playing throughout the entire show. Perhaps the funniest thing was
that they had to set up their show with no roadies because nobody else
understands how their machines work. Dont expect a big entrance when they
come on stage - they just sorta drift on and start tinkering with their
gizmos and after about 10-15 minutes of odd sounding hoots, hisses and
moogwhimpers the finally say hello and begin that amazing thing that they do.

I have to seriously differ about Prolapse however. While musically they
did a couple of interesting things/noises, it seemed that the rest of their
show was just so contrived. The hystrionics between the guy and the girl
seemed like it should be a skit on SNL's 'sprockets', and by the end I
was overwhelmed with two feelings - first 'why are they taking this so
seriously'? and 'when did I sign up to be these two's therapist?' I
really felt like I was witnessing a temper tantrum thrown by two 6 year
olds accompanied by a drone-rock band (at one point the little girl was
shouting over and over 'Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!' over the guys constant
screaming at her and clutching at his head.) It seemed like
psychotic concept rock to me. But hey, maybe an adolescent temper
tantrum was the point... I dont know. But at least it made stereolab
sound all the better.


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 00:20:13 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab


> wall of noise was so unceasingly intense that you found yourself evolving
> through different parts of the music without knowing how you got there.

I just got back from seeing them here at WWU.  Fantastic performance,
though the band did seem a little bored/peeved at first.  Can't say the
audience was that great, though... the only person moving more than me (as
far as I could see) was some drunk girl mumbling things about monsters.
Yes, they did the whole space-noise/noise thing, and it was right on.  We
only got about 15min. of an encore, though.  I found myself evolving
through different ways of movement without knowing how I got started...

> Prolapse was very interesting as well, though that guy singer made me think

I kept thinking "the fall" and "sex pistols".  Nonetheless, good stuff.
All three acts were A-O.K. if you ask me.  Definitely worth 5 bucks.

Happy Birthday,
Mike


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 03:09:22 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Kitchens Review


Returning to the Kitchens Of Distinction subject (discussed 2 months ago),
could the 2 Kitchens (just kidding) fans give a fiar review of 'Love is
Hell' & 'Cowboys & Aliens'.
being a true KOD fan, i=B4m sinning since I don=B4t have this 2 releases...=
=20

Always a sinner,

Pepe
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 03:05:42 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Windy & Carl/Cure/Nearly God


>Today I bought their new cd 'Wild Mood Swings'. After listening to it once
>I rushed back to the record store and asked if they would take it back!
>This is the worst record they've ever made. I've got almost every cure
>record since 1979 but this one has made me realise: cure is over (for me)

Please! Be more precise... is it that bad? I=B4m pretty scared of this album
since I heard the nasty '13th' (HORRIBLE SINGLE).=20

being curious...

Pepe

*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 01:28:02 -0700
From: esp raincloud (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: stars on esp v23


> For starters, I just want the HNIA 7" :(

  DUDE!!!! {and this is directed toward every wonderer}....

  the boys picked up {hopefully, if someone didn't get decked during
  the meeting} the LATE artwork from WARREN a day or so ago.
  this was supposed to have been finished long ago, but WARREN apparently
  was busy and/or slacked around and voila...late artwork = late 7".

  it's coming. it's supposedly a very lovely hnia song. country with
  some lo-fi noise..i can't remember what i was told. i have been
  rewarded with the dubious honour of receiving the first 7" so as soon
  as i get mine, then everyone will have theirs...




  patience is a key component of happy living,
  k


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 09:56:17 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Kitchens Review


"Jose A. Garcia Camil"  writes:

> Returning to the Kitchens Of Distinction subject (discussed 2 months ago),
> could the 2 Kitchens (just kidding) fans give a fiar review of 'Love is
> Hell' & 'Cowboys & Aliens'.

brilliant tunes that all make me want to bounce around the room, which
is why I play it while I'm doing the dishes, most of the time.  This
album definitely have the Kitchens' best tunes, but the production
sucks.  Seriously.  Flat, boring, sterile.  I still love the album,
and you *must* buy it at the first possible opportunity.

"Cowboys & Aliens", on the other hand, is their last album, and
doesn't have all that many brilliant songs.  None, in fact.  Quite a
few "yes, this is nice"-tunes, though.  Sounds nice all over, I think,
but is not essential.  However, if you liked "The Death of Cool",
you'll probably like this one as well, because it's pretty much
identical to that release.

I think "Brave New World" (was it really called that?) was their best
album -- *fab* tunes and *fab* sound.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:49:41 +0200
From: Me again (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins (Addicted to Noise Interview)


>About this Robin says, "I'm much more tolerant now, but a couple of years
>ago if you had said that Garlands was your favorite I would've been
>thinking, 'God you're pathetic.' Because the type of people who follow us,
>as we got older and grew, these people didn't, and at concerts they'd still
>shout 'Wax & Wane!' I would think the world was passing them by a little
>bit," he says mildly. "I'd like to melt down all the old records to make a
>new one. My old theory was you had to trade in all your old Cocteau Twins
>records to get the new one, therefore you move with the band and you don't
>get stuck."


Help! Help! I'm stuck!


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:30:26 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Cure (99% non 4AD)


>Please! Be more precise... is it that bad? I=B4m pretty scared of this albu=
m
>since I heard the nasty '13th' (HORRIBLE SINGLE).

    Well, at the beginning of track two Mr. Smith's voice started to
irritate me and this feeling didn't stop. They'r too old for these kind of
happy pop songs (about telling young people to get out of bed and do
something). I've heard this all before in a much better way. They're
starting to do the same things over and over again. Some people were saying
this years ago but I just wouldn't listen...

    The same format: starts with a long heavy song with lots of guitar
solo's and a screaming Bob. Then an easy tune followed by this horrible
single. After two happy pop songs there a slow song 'about something deep
and emotional', then again a happy pop song, long heavy guitar song and the
record ends - as always - with a song that has to make you 'think about
things'. There's nothing wrong with this concept but I don't like it
anymore... (no hard feelings) They should have broken up a few years ago...

    Their new world tour probably looks like this: seven new songs, all the
other greatest hits, one old song from 'faith' or 'pornography' (for all of
those 30/35 year old guys who dress black and still have the same hairdo as
Mr. Smith) and a twentyfive minute version of 'a forest' plus a big
lightshow, expensive tourbooks and a few words between the songs by Mr.
Smith you can't understand. In other words: the same as the 'wish' tour or
the 'disintergration' tour or the 'kiss me' tour (yes, I've seen their
concerts since 'seventeen seconds').

    The record and tour will be very succesful, but my advice - if you
like(d) the cure: before buying the album you should listen to it first.

    For those who think they're great: they play a concert on May 7th
(22.00 CET) live from London on several european (don't know about the us)
radio stations. Their tour starts at the end of May (UK) and the rest of
the world in June, July, August etc. In 1997 there will be a live
cd/video and an unplugged remix greatest hits cd, their new studio album
will be in the shops at the end of 1999 followed by a world tour in the
year 2000.



Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, May 4, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl



1% 4AD:

Scheer is playing a concert on June 1 in Amsterdam so they will be touring
Europe that around that time...


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 06:53:07 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Ultra Vivid Scene


On Fri, 3 May 1996, shigeru Iwakabe wrote:

> I am a big fan of Ultra Vivid Scene. Does anyone know whether he is
> continuing this project?
> Thanks in advance
> Shigeru Iwakabe

He played in New York under the name Kurt Ralske, it was recently said.
(No one on this list went. I offered to PAY FOR THEIR GODDAM TICKET and
no one went.) Anyhoo, this implies no more UVS, but on the other hand at
least he hasn't quit like we all thought. (Did you hear that Sen~or
Mccallum? We *all* thought that. You are to have thought that effective
immediately.)



        e

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 07:11:48 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: (idm) Aphex, Orbital... (fwd)


This gets my nomination for best post of the year. (If you are a guitar
wanker, just skip to the 3rd paragraph.) ;)

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 03:25:28
From: Fresh/Gonzi Merchan (GMerchan@gnn.com)
Subject: (idm) Aphex, Orbital...


Cure on it) features an article on remixing tracks and contains
some stuff about Aphex (including a re-telling of the Lemonheads
remix story) and Wagonchrist. Interesting and hey, its free. Also,
there's a new book out this month on the history of Ambient Music
called Oceans of Sound that features an interview with RDJ. Lets
all send those tingly vibes to Aphex so he finishes the Caustic LP
and Warp LP quick. "Tingle, tingle, tingle...."

be a 2 cd set. I'm not sure if the second disc will be the Box ep
or the Times Fly ep. BTW, I've seen some stores are charging
ridiculous prices for the new Orbital CD here in the states (for
reasons unknown, but a store I talked to said the distributors ran
out of them). Don't play into this scam!

Thats all for now from the G-spot. Except for one thing that must
be addressed regarding a non idm topic. I've been asked to
communicate from the G-spot crew that they think the new
Cranberries single is the wackest fucking shit ever put to tape and
reminds them of that song from Heathers (Teenage Suicide, Don't do
it!"). Anyone who knows a Cranberries fan (most likely someones
girlfriend) be sure to rub this one in thier noses!

Peace out...

 /""''
/"'RESH
Live and Direct from the G-Spot
Orange County, California, USA

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:03:16 -0400
From: naranjas en la cabeza (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: music and TV


>Yep - it's Sweetness and Light. (My all time fav) What a trip it was to
>hear that while innocently watching Letterman a few months ago. Quite
>strange.

Speaking of the Volkswagen ads, what's the music in the one where there's
the guy in the office who says, "I just wish these windows would open"? It's
something with a female singer but no actual words, just a lot of rapid-fire
nanana-ing, whooping and hee-ing. Anyone?

>This brings up an interesting thing that's been bugging me for a l o n g
>of a better word) "our" music for their very non-appropriate purposes?
>It's really a mystery to me - so baffling to the point that it makes me
>very upset and sick sometimes... I've recorded a few instances for your

The weirdest instances always seem to turn up on Extra. When they did a
feature on the Unabomber, they played some Joy Division or early New Order
(can't remember which it was) as they showed him being led away by cops in
slo-mo.

>-Ride for Nike
>my bloody valentine for Nickelodeon

Whoo, haven't heard these. What songs did they use?

Larry


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 07:33:19 +0200 following senders discarded.
From: "zavala)"@DOCS.CCS.CONACYT.MX
Subject: Re: Windy & Carl/Cure/Nearly God


que tal jose, quisiera pedirte que la comunicacion entre nosotros de ser
posible sea en espanol.

jesus castro

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:16:27 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: music and TV


> >This brings up an interesting thing that's been bugging me for a l o n g
> >time: How do TV shows and commercials seem to get a hold of (for lack
> >of a better word) "our" music for their very non-appropriate purposes?
> >It's really a mystery to me - so baffling to the point that it makes me
> >very upset and sick sometimes... I've recorded a few instances for your
> >(non)enjoyment:
>
> The weirdest instances always seem to turn up on Extra. When they did a
> feature on the Unabomber, they played some Joy Division or early New Order
> (can't remember which it was) as they showed him being led away by cops in
> slo-mo.
>
New Order or Joy Division isn't so strange; once on that show I heard
"Blood Satisfaction" by TWP!

> >-Ride for Nike
> >my bloody valentine for Nickelodeon
MTV used to play "Soon" in the background while their Vidiot Jockeys
talked

To answer the questions about how these things happen, it's really
quite simple.  A lot of people who work in advertising are fairly
young (20s to early 30s); even though they won't usually be in charge
of a product, when a campaign is directed towards us "Gen Xers" or
whatever you want to call us the bosses will ask them for their input
on music that "speaks to our generation" or whatever.

If you worked for an advertising agency and they asked you for some
ideas of music that young people could relate to wouldn't you suggest
"Sweetness and Light" or something else of a similar vein?  I would
be trying to stick in the music I like every chance I got.

moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:50:36 -0700
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY - COOL CD'S FOR TRADE!!!!!


An extra note for you 4AD people.  There are a lot of 4AD jems in the
list, including Underground Lovers 1st from Australia, Belly's Baby
Silvertooth from Japan, Xymox's 1st, and (non-4ad) Peter Murphy's
Sweetest Drop promo (includes All Night Long/Live)



ROUND FOUR NEW STUFF ADDED.  UPDATED May 4, 1996.
NEW UPDATES AVAILABLE FROM

                            * * * * *

Here's the deal.  I want to clean out my CD collection, but I
need to replace the old stuff with some fresh ones.  I am looking
Communications, Orbital, Orb (New only), etc.), 4AD stuff, Acid
Jazz, Detroit House, MBV, Stereolab, 9 Lazy 9, Trip Hop, Ninja
Tune, Jean Michelle Jarre, ....

Instead of wasting bandwith, I left out descriptions.  If you
want track listings, please let me know.

Get creative with your trades.  Pick a single and a full length
for a worthwhile new CD.  You can get the idea.

I'd prefer to trade for CD's but if you have nothing to trade,
I'll review cash offers.

I'll be more sympathetic to large trade/sale offers.  So
trade/buy more get better deals.


PROMOTIONAL ONLY SINGLES
------------------------


APHEX TWIN|WORDS & MUSIC|(PROMO CD) PRO-CD 6878
THE BREEDERS|SAINTS|(1 TRK PROMO) PRCD 8932-2
02239-2
DEAD OR ALIVE - COME HOME WITH ME BABY (ESK 1637)
FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS - DRIVES ME CRAZY (PROMO CD 45-17720)
LISA GERMANO|CRY WOLF (+3)|(PRO-CD-7347)
MOBY|ALL THAT I NEED IS TO BE LOVED|(PROMO CD) PRCD 9238-2
PETER MURPHY|THE SWEETEST DROP|(5 TRACK PROMO W/LIVE TRACKS) HDJ
RED HOUSE PAINTERS| SUMMER DRESS (+1)|(PRO-CD-7474)
WOLFGANG PRESS - GOING SOUTH (PRO-CD 7174)
XTC - RAG & BONE BUFFET (4 SONGS) (PRO-CD 4251)

IMPORT CDS/SINLGES
------------------

AGEN - TRIP TO THE MOON PART III (CD5)
BEAT SYSTEM - TO A BRIGHTER DAY (O' HAPPY DAY) (FFRR)*
BELLY - GEPETTO E.P. [REMIX] (CD5/BAD 2018)*
BELLY|BABY SILVERTOOTH|COCY-75469 (4AD-JAPAN/9 TRKS)
BIG LIFE LIBRARY - SHORT STORIES VOL. 1 (UK)
BLISS - LOVEPRAYER*
CLAN OF XYMOX|CLAN OF XYMOX|CAD 503 (4AD-UK)
COMP=JUMPIN' & PUMPIN'|NOISE 3|CD TOT 8 (UK COMP W/FSOL PAPAU NEW
COMP=SOME BIZARRE|"ISH"|SBZCD 003 (UK)
DRAMARAMA - BOX OFFICE BOMB (ROSE 138 CD)*
FRENTE|BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE|MAX-CD MUSHROOM D11839 (UK)
GUINEA, ETC.)*
HADDAWAY|CATCH A FIRE|MAXI-SINGLE (LOGIC/UK)
HEIDI BERRY - THE MOON AND THE SUN (CD5/BAD 3010)
JAZZ BUTCHER|GIRL GO (+3)|CRESCD 077 (UK)
LAIBACH - NOVA AKROPOLA (MRED 67)*
LUSH - MAD LOVE (CD5/BAD 0003)
LUSH (CD5/BAD 0013)
MIGHTY FORCE - HYPNOVEL (SUB BASE HZ 1CD)(MISSING BOOKLET)*
PSYCHOTROPIC|HYPNOSIS|MAXI-SINGLE|02 RECORDS (UK)
RAVING MAD - ELEVATE COMPILATION* (W/MESSIAH,FSOL,SMARTEES)*
RECOIL - BLOODLINE (MUTE)*
SPIREA X - FIREBLADE SKIES (4AD)*
TEENAGE FAN CLUB|PEEL SESSIONS|SFPSCD081 (UK)
THE NEON JUDGEMENT - THE FIRST JUDGEMENT (BIAS 70)*
THE AUTEURS - HOW COULD I BE WRONG (HUTCD 28 UK CD5)
THE AUTEURS - LENNY VALENTINO (UK CD5)
ULTRAMARINE|FOLK|OFFSHORE OSHCD1 (UK)
UNDERGROUND LOVERS - LEAVES ME BLIND (GU2)
UNDERGROUND LOVERS|GET TO NOTICE|SHOCK CD 005 S (AUSTRALIA)
VELVET JUNGLE|COLD COLD HEART|MAXI-CD (UK)
VELVET JUNG:E|COLD HEART|MAXI-CD (UK)
WOLFGANG PRESS - TIME (CD5/BAD 1003)

DOMESTIC CDS
------------
A.R. KANE - NEW CLEAR CHILD+
ANGEL CORPUS CHRISTI - WHITE COURTESY PHONE (ADVANCE CD)
BLACK ROCK COALITION - THE HISTORY OF OUR FUTURE
CANDY SKINS - SPACE I'M IN
FLOATSAM AND JETSAM - WHEN THE STORM COMES DOWN
FLOCK OF SEAGULLS
FRONT 242 - BACKCATALOGUE (REMASTERED VERSION)*
GLEE CLUB - MINE*
HAPPY MONDAYS - DOUBLE EASY: THE US SINGLES*
HAPPY MONDAYS - YES, PLEASE
HEIDI BERRY - HEIDI BERRY (MISSING BACK ART)
JESUS JONES - LIQUIDIZER
LIQUID JESUS - LIVE
MAZZY STAR - SO TONIGHT THAT I MIGHT SEE
MERCURY REV - BOCES*
MESSIAH|21ST CENTURY JESUS|
MIKE OLDFIELD - TUBULAR BELLS
MY LIFE W/THE THRILL KILL KULT|I SEE GOOD SPIRITS AND I SEE BAD
SPIRITS|WAXCD 056
NINE INCH NAILS - FIXED (HALO6)
RED RED GROOVY - 25
RED HOUSE PAINTERS|RED HOUSE PAINTERS|*
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - MOTHERS MILK
RIDE - CARNIVAL OF LIGHT+
SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES - SUPERSTITION
SISTER MACHINE GUN - SINS OF THE FLESH
SPIRITUALIZED|PURE PHASE|*
STEVE LACY|ANTHEM|*
SYSTEM 01 (W/TIMOTHY LEARY)|FROM PSYCHODELICS TO CYBERNETICS|IF-SETH 026
CD
TEENAGE FANCLUB|THIRTEEN|+
THE VOLUPTUOUS HORROR OF KAREN BLACK - THE ANTI-NATURALIST
(PROMO/NO BOOKLET)
THINKING FELLERS UNION LOCAL 282 (MATADOR OLE 109-2)
WAX|13 UNLUCKY NUMBERS|+
YOUNG BLACK TEENAGERS|YOUNG BLACK TEENAGERS

DOMESTIC COMPLIATIONS
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NEXT 002
HUH 4 (SAMPLER)
BLADE RUNNER SOUNDTRACK - NEW AMERICAN ORCHESTRA
DOCTOR DEATH'S VOL IV: THE MARVELS OF INSECT LIFE/C'EST LA MORT
THE GREY AREA (MUTE/GREY AREA COMPLATION)
COMP|WE SING TO OPEN EARS|W/JAZZ PASSENGERS, MICHAEL HEDGES, ETC.
COMP=CREATION|THE PATRON SAINTS OF TEENAGE|CREATION RECORDS*
COMP|PROBE MISSION USA|W/RICHIE HAWTIN, FUSE, CYBERSONIC

DOMESTIC SINGLES
----------------

2 HOUSE|GO TECHNO|MAXI-SINGLE
B.Y.O.B.|TOO GOOD TO LET GO|PROMO MAXI-CD VRCD 10310
BELLY|NOW THEY'LL SLEEP|MAXI-CD (SEALED)*
CURE|CLOSE TO ME * REMIX|MAXI-CD
DANIELLE DAX - BIG BLUE  82' CD5
F.O.D.|ALL IT TAKES|MAXI-CD (PLANET EARTH)
FILTER|HEY MAN NICE SHOT|MAXI-CD*
IGGY POP - LIVING ON THE EDGE OF THE NIGHT CD5
KMFDM|BRUTE|MAXI-CD*
MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO - STORM THE STUDIO (TVT 7266)
MORRISEY|THE MORE YOU IGNORE ME, THE CLOSER I GET|MAXI-CD
NEW ORDER|SPOOKY|MAXI-CD
NEW FAST AUTOMATIC DAFFODILS - BIG CD5
PRIMAL SCREAM - COME TOGETHER CD5
PRIMAL SCREAM|COME TOGETHER|7 TRACK MAXI-SINGLE
QUADRAPHONIA - WAVE OF THE FUTURE CD5
SINGLE GUN THEORY - SURRENDER CD5
THE OVERLORDS|GOD'S EYE|MAXI-CD


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:23:00 BST
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Mail replies (was: Re: VW song)

              -0600

In article  the boy in zinc
 writes:

| you know, if everyone would read ALL of their new mail before replying, we
| wouldn't get so many repeated posts (e.g. this one and the everything's
| gone green again post of a couple of months ago).  i know this is silly as
| i've probably done it myself a couple of times, but for god's sake read
| your mail before you fire off a reply!

Due to the fact that mail messages do get delayed from time to time, I
don't think you'll get rid of that problem - I often get replies
before I see the initial posts. So, if you reply to something, I might
reply *after* you, but I would still not have seen your reply.
However, on this list, the replies often have nothing to do with the
initial postings, so I'm not worrying...anyway, someone's probably
replied to this already.

| slightly kranky tonight,

Aren't we all.

--
  "Exterminate all rational thought --
   That is the conclusion I have come to."


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:23:31 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Bob Mould Alert!!!


Bought the Bob Mould CD, "Bob Mould" for only 4.95 at Amoeba Records in
Berkeley. I couldn't believe my eyes. This CD was a Rykodisc Advance (copy)
CD.  The steal for 1996 thus far for the price. But how does the music
sound?  This album is a very downbeat and soulful album.  He starts it off
with a very nice, almost RHP sounding song called "Anymore Time Between".
What's really strange is he seemed to add more special effects to this
album then previous albums, giving it a dark feel and texture. This is
especially true of the song "Art Crisis". I feel that every song on this
album is a keeper and much better then his most previous album before this
one. I give the the album 9 bats out of 10 in the belfry.

==================================================
"Keep Peace With Your Soul. Strive to be Happy. It's Not Easy Fighting the
20th Century."
              In The Nursery
                                     ~|~
                                    /---\
                                   | 0^0 |
                                     <">
                                    \/*\/
                                 Fred Da Pagan
                                   _/_/_/_/
                                  _/   _/
                                 _/_/_/
                                _/
                               _/
           /\_/\
           (o o)
      --ooO-(o)-Ooo--  Pagan Man's sidekick gOD.


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:24:44 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Non 4AD: Message for Jesus Castro


>que tal jose, quisiera pedirte que la comunicacion entre nosotros de ser
>posible sea en espanol.
>
>jesus castro
>
>

Claro que si, solo dame tu direccion ya que trate de mandarte directamente a
tu cuenta pero parece que no existe...

Comunicate,

Pepe
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:18:44 EDT
From: "Glen T. Greenman" (102724.3265@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Area CDs


        A week or so ago I made the mistake of mentioning that I had four Area
CDs with which I might be willing to part. Since then I've received many
messages asking to sell or trade the CDs. To those of you who did respond to my
original message, thank you for your interest, but please do not take the
following personally.
        These offers have posed a couple problems. First, some have suggested a
trade, but I don't think there's anything I'd want to trade for, unless there's
some ultra-obscure Cocteau Twins or DCD thing out there somewhere.
        Second, most of these offers have been to buy or trade for just one or
two of the four CDs. Personally, I think it's pointless for me to sell one Area
CD but to keep the other three. Of course, it would be fine if four different
people each wanted a different CD, but everyone seems to want the same one or
two titles.
        So, if you are interested in owning these CDs (and the titles are Radio
Caroline, The Perfect Dream, Between Purple and Pink, and Fragment of the
Morning), PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING VERY CAREFULLY!
        I am suggesting that we have a lottery where the winner receives the fou

CDs for only $10.00, plus $3.00 for shipping. Each person who wishes to
participate in the lottery will send me a money order or check for $10 for which
they will receive one chance to win the set. (Anyone who wishes to buy multiple
chances for $10 each may do so.) On a certain date, I will hold a drawing and
will select the winner randomly. The winner will be notified, and will be
required to send $3 shipping to receive the CDs.
        Now, if you may be interested in doing this, please reply. YOUR REPLY
WILL BE CONSIDERED TO BE ONLY AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THE LOTTERY, NOT A
COMMITMENT TO DO SO. The lottery will be held only if there is enough interest
to cover expenses (i.e. the cost of the CDs!), and if so, further details will
be forthcoming. THE ENTRY COST WILL BE LOWERED IF THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF
PARTICIPANTS.
        Interested? Questions? Let me know.

        Glen


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 14:58:13 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Tortoise (and Lush VW)


Frank Brinkhuis  blabs:
>>I had expected them to sound like Stereolab with a vibraphone
>>for some reason.  (Why?)
>
>Yes indeed, WHY!! Ever heard of Slint, Squirrel Bait, Bastro and
>Shrimp Boat? The guys who are now in Tortoise where making music
>long before the Stereolab's members' mums and dads had met each
>other (so to speak).

Eh?  Have you ever heard of McCarthy, Nurse with Wound, etc.?  Tim
and company have been making music since the early 80s.  They
learned to use those synths from the true masters (Chris Carter,
Steve Stapleton, Konstructivitus, etc.)  Like Tortoise, Stereolab
is just a relatively recent incarnation of some old scenesters.

And yes, Danielle Dax used to be in a band too... :-)

Reality

P.S. I've heard reports the BOTH "Sweetness & Light" AND "Superblast!"
have been featured in VW commercials, though the latter is more
rarely seen.  Of course, I wouldn't know since I haven't owned a
TV in a decade.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Philosophy, UCSD  ---  http://mugwump.ucsd.edu/bkeeley/index.html
finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key -- NeXTmail accepted

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:59:16 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: STP Toronto Part 1: The Pre-Shave


After a considerable wait outside the HMV here in Toronto,
the fans were let in for an in-store performance and autograph
signing session. First up with an acoutic performance were
Scheer who were actually quite good. The audio could have
been better at the start but the store staff really showed how
unorganized they were when Mojave 3 sat down to perform
an acoustic set. A bespeckled Rachel kept testing the mic to see
if it was on and no one was helping her. Meanwhile Neil kept
saying "Is it on mate? Can you hear me?" while Chris broke
into an inmpromptu riff on his guitar waiting for the sound
guy to get Rachel's mic working. Rachel kept making goofy
faces and smiling like a chesire cat. Everyone was laughing
along with her.

Once everything was ready to go, Mojave started with "Where
is the Love" and the disorganized false start was quickly
forgotten by Neil who began to really get into the song.
They did 4 songs with the last being "Mercy" of which Neil
started by noting that given the previous sound problems
was indeed an apt song. The groove was quite good and
Mojave held the store crowd captivated. That was until
Rachel was overcome with a case of the giggles. She tried
to continue and was doing ok when she started to laugh
and said "Sorry, I can't". Everyone in the crowd who had
been hypnotized by the song began to laugh along with
Rachel. They ended their set with an apology for the sound
and hoped that everyone would see that they would play
a much better set at the Opera House. "At least we better"
Neil said with a smile.

In between Scheer and Mojave3, the HMV staff organizers
handed out t-shirts by asking really silly trivia questions.
One of them was "What label are we talking about this
afternoon?" Duh...Another wonderful question was "Who
was here two days ago for an autograph session?" The
answer of course Mariah Carey. This answer was met with
groans by the die-hard 4AD crowd. As if someone would
come to a Lush/Mojave/Scheer signing to talk about Mariah
Carey.

The best of the afternoon had to be the arrival and interview
on the stage area by a record rep of Miki Berenyi. The girl
who interviewed her kept asking questions that Miki kept
making joke responses to and putting in her place. The best
question was when the girl asked Miki "Lovelife is quite a
departure for Lush, what are you trying to do this time around?"
Miki (with a very sarcastic grin): " Well we've sold out now, right.
Ya we're more commercial. Signing on to VW ads and the lot"
Everyone laughed at that one.

We were then asked to line up in a line that seemed never to
move for an hour while they all signed autographs, all three
bands. When I finally arrived to get my autographs I thought
that the HMV security was trying to be too cool and they were
trying to play cop too much. Scheer were really cute and they
all signed a poster for me. Equally charming was Rachel Goswell
and Neil Halstead who posed for a few pictures for me. Rachel
punctuated her autograph on my cd by drawing a black cat.
A guy in front of me asked Ian if he was in Lush and Ian
laughed saying "No mate, this band (pointing to Mojave 3)".
It was funny that quite a few people didn't know who was in
which band.

I moved along to Lush and wouldn't you know it, Miki had stepped
out for a second. I quickly took a few photos of Emma and Chris
and then was told to leave. I waited a few seconds to make it
look like I was packing my stuff away to get Miki's autograph.
Miki came up right behind me and I caught her arm and asked
if she would sign. She was incredibly sweet and talked to me
about how she wished this would be over soon. According to a
friend of mine (and the Mojave 3's cd photographer), Lush were
stalled in getting across the border last night coming into Canada
because Miki forgot to bring her green card with her, which she
left back in the hotel in NYC. I thought that was very funny but
he told me that the other two bands were not amused as they
sat in buses in Buffalo as someone went back to retrieve Miki's
card.

They all looked tired but satisfied. I think that they were not
expecting Toronto to have such a large turnout of fans for
the in-store performance and autographs. They were all very
kind and friendly despite their long trip from NYC to Toronto.

Well this is report no.1. I will be going to the show and will
send you all a report of how that show went.

Steve

***********************************************************
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                                                     "Surviving Desire"


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 16:04:25 -0700
From: Rocky Colavito (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: music and TV


> > >very upset and sick sometimes... I've recorded a few instances for your
> > >(non)enjoyment:
> >
> > The weirdest instances always seem to turn up on Extra. When they did a
> > feature on the Unabomber, they played some Joy Division or early New Order
> > (can't remember which it was) as they showed him being led away by cops in
> > slo-mo.
> >
> New Order or Joy Division isn't so strange; once on that show I heard
> "Blood Satisfaction" by TWP!
>

OK I got a strange one. I heard Bauhaus' Third Uncle during an LA Lakers
telecast as they were heading to a commercial. I really did not know what
to make of that.

> > >-Ride for Nike
> > >my bloody valentine for Nickelodeon
> MTV used to play "Soon" in the background while their Vidiot Jockeys
> talked
>

Combustible Edison does a song for a major league baseball promo.

Brett

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:19:16 -0400
From: Antenna73@AOL.COM
Subject: !!!!!!!MARK EITZEL TO PLAY BUFFALO, NY!!!!!!!!!!!!


hello
i did this wrong the first time so i have to rewrite it but anyways...
on a whim, a co worker and i have booked in a mark eitzel date in buffalo,
new york- it was confirmed yesterday!!!!
we have absolutely no prospect except we really really wanted to see him so,
in tuen, we found a day off on his tour schedule and requested him for an
open date....
ive never promoted such a thing but mark eitzel/amc is my only sacred cow i
have so it shall be worth every penny so...
what's is band lineup? any old amc material played? anyone know?
so...for all western new york fireflies and those nearby...here it is...

                                     MARK EITZEL
                             MAY 20TH @ NIETZCHIES
                                            9PM

tickets have yet to be set but roughly seven dollars- if anyone has any
questions, please call new world record (my place of employment) @
716-882-4004 you can ask for me, but im sure anyone could help you out....
hope to see some of you there
william


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:33:30 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: music and TV


>Speaking of the Volkswagen ads, what's the music in the one where there's
>the guy in the office who says, "I just wish these windows would open"? It's
>something with a female singer but no actual words, just a lot of rapid-fire
>nanana-ing, whooping and hee-ing. Anyone?


Think that might be Velocity Girl....

>-Ride for Nike
>my bloody valentine for Nickelodeon

>Whoo, haven't heard these. What songs did they use?

The Ride song was one from Going Blank Again. I forget the name, but it's
like the 3rd song with the lyrics "I'll meet you on the way do-own...."

The MBV song (I cringe whenever I think of this), but it's Soon, the very
first part with the looped drums before it gets into the song...(shutter)

Is no one safe?
_Bri


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 17:37:19 -0700
From: Brian James Heileson (heileson@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: music and TV


>To answer the questions about how these things happen, it's really
>quite simple.  A lot of people who work in advertising are fairly
>young (20s to early 30s); even though they won't usually be in charge
>of a product, when a campaign is directed towards us "Gen Xers" or
>whatever you want to call us the bosses will ask them for their input
>on music that "speaks to our generation" or whatever.

>If you worked for an advertising agency and they asked you for some
>ideas of music that young people could relate to wouldn't you suggest
>"Sweetness and Light" or something else of a similar vein?  I would
>be trying to stick in the music I like every chance I got.

Yeah, that's what I figured I guess. I just feel so   v i o l a t e d
some times.... If I were in that position I guess I couldn't help but to
choose good music as well....

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:12:44 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: detroit StP


so who in the day-twah area is going to the mojave3 thing in royal oak as
well as the actual concert? I'd like to meet my fellow local listies!
(and the first one to correctly identify me out of all the other
red-haired black-clad female types wins a prize!) ;)

lurve

Heather

Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:22:55 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: music and TV


On Fri, 3 May 1996, Brian James Heileson wrote:
> AND NOW, ALL YOU LISTIES, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS ONE? (I swear that I am
> not lying here...)
>
> - A COCTEAU TWINS SONG ON _BAYWATCH_ !!!!!!!
>  seriously. It was during some fucking awful underwater dreamy montage
>  with Pamela Bimbo From Hell Anderson swimming around to Liz's angelic
>  singing. The song was rather old and I couldn't identify it. It was
>  like some music video from hell.

Another scary one: Dead Can Dance on that Fox series with all the
vampires...I forget the name of it, but they played "The Wind that Shakes
the Barley" from Into the Labyrinth in this bar/coffeehouse where all the
vamps go to be gloomy. It was really jarring to hear Lisa Gerrard
accompanying this really tacky show...but it might be scarier to admit
that i was watching it...

Heather


Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 22:20:36 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Nearly God


I've heard lots of people talking about *Nearly God* on the list but i haven't
found it in the CD stores (in Seattle).  Do you all have promo's?  Is it
released in the UK but not US?  Is it not under the name "Tricky"?  Why can't i
get it.

Is it really Nearly Godlike?

-cz

Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:31:07 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: I'm official!!!!


> I really enjoyed Kim's short
> but sweet vocals on Ultra Vivid Scene's "Joy" as well.  What other 4AD albums
> has she guest-starred on?
>
it's not 4AD but she appears on the new sonic youth record singing a duet
with kim gordon called "little trouble girl." she has also produced the
latest guided by voices record.
star vein

Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 00:08:30 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush in france ?


hi,
        i'm also on the cocteau twins' list and i noticed that you are
from france. how do the french refer to email. how do you say it? is it
still called email? i have relatives in france and i wanted to know how to
ask them if they have email...
thanks,
jim renaud