Subject: For those of you who still believe...
Subject: Re: nancy sinatra
Subject: Drugs, Suicide, and This Rimy List
Subject: Re: more movies
Subject: Re: new lush
Subject: Re: my humble opinion...
Subject: Lush in france ?
Subject: Chris Explains....(Not an apology)
Subject: Re: Thoughts/questions/answers etc.
Subject: Re: The most off topic list...
Subject: Re: Songs to take drugs to...
Subject: THE THIS RIMY LIMITED
Subject: the best news all year
Subject: ENOUG?HT ALREADY!!!
Subject: Re: Thoughts/questions/answers etc.
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins in D.C.
Subject: Wire.....?
Subject: Re: This Rimy River Ltd. (wow!)
Subject: ltd. ed. rimy river + cd
Subject: Re: THE THIS RIMY LIMITED/Elvis
Subject: DCD tour dates--please forgive me!
Subject: Record Stores in Germany
Subject: Cocteau Twins special on KSCU (Santa Clara, CA)
Subject: Re: ltd. ed. rimy river + cd
Subject: Lush in NYC Tonight - Drinks before @ Beauty Bar
Subject: May 7 STP
Subject: Re: the best news all year
Subject: stereolab and lush/mojave/scheer interviews
Subject: Re: OUT??
Subject: Re: Drugs, Suicide, and This Rimy List
Subject: In?!?!
Subject: SORRY! Finger slipped (NON4AD)
Subject: Re: scheer + air miami stuff
Subject: private to Nick Hill
Subject: Spectrum
Subject: Re: Wire.....?
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:12:50 -0700
For those of you who still believe in the Cocteaus, there�s a lenghty
interview in this month�s volume of Addicted to Noise
The article mentions that the Twins are planning a colaboration with Faye
Wong among other stuff.
But don�t take my word for it, check it out by yourselves...
Pepe
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:46:36 CST
while we're on the subject of nancy, does anyone know where i can find the
original version of "kinky love?" i've looked on all the nancy sinatra cds
i can find, but i can't find this song. . .
BiZ
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:25:33 +0000
Is there a stereotype that 4AD fans fall into that some of us don't know about?
i.e., are we preoccupied with drugs and suicide??? Perhaps because some of us
STILL haven't received our limited edition This Rimy River...with the free CD of
demo tracks from Lush, Scheer, Jive Bombers, Mojave 3, Heidi Berry, Brendan
Perry, and His Name Is Alive plus an previously unreleased Red House Painters
song with a 23 minute guitar solo (limited edition of 23)...
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:24:54 -0400
> I haven't seen the TMC video (or any, for that matter), but Until the End of t
e
> World, also by Wim Wenders, is a great film, with lots of thislisty type music
> Also, try anything by Jim Jarmusch.
DETROITERS!!!!!!!!
jarmusch's DEAD MAN opens at the main art theater on may fifth
check it out. i liked past jarmuschian films.
Until the End of the World is a great, but for a true Wender night check
out wings of desire and faraway, so close. peter falk rules, and the
duality represented is quite impressive and genuine.
star vein
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:25:00 CDT
On May 1, 1996 Cori Wall wrote:
>i just heard 'single girl' off of the new lush and was extremely
>disappointed. i started with spooky and then went to gala. i loved both
>albums. will i be blowing my money if i buy the new album?
>
That depends. I love Spooky and Gala and I really like the new album while
others love Spooky and Gala and HATE the new album because it sounds NOTHING
like Spooky or Gala, which is understandable. If you can appreciate a good
pop tune and have a lot of fun with it then you'll like Lovelife. If you
despise anything that even resembles pop then stay away. Don't expect
effects or jangly spangly guitars because there aren't any. At first, this
album caused me to drop my jaw and ask "Is that LUSH???" The guitars are
harder and more traditional. And Miki's voice is barely recognizable on
'Ladykillers' because it's so low. The lyrics and the songs are more
concrete than airy and are way more accessible than Spooky or Gala. (To
some, accessible is baaad, verrry baaadd.)
I, too, thought 'Single Girl' was repugnant at first but after you hear it
in the context of the album it really isn't that distasteful. Although many
will disagree. You just have to be very open minded about it. And let's
face it, if Lush had put out another Spookyish or Gala-like album some
people would still be saying things like "It's just a second-rate rehash of
Spooky" or "It's boring and it's been done before why don't they move on?"
There are only two songs on Lovelife that I don't like: 'Olympia' (Blechh)
and 'Tralala' (I just can't get used to it) The other ten songs are
highly enjoyable especially 'The Childcatcher'. That's probably my favorite
because of it's lyrics. After the song is over it makes you wanna go "Yeah,
TAKE THAT ASSHOLE!!!!" Plus it's got a great hook.
Personally, I don't think you'd be blowing your money, but as I said before
it really depends on your own musical tastes and how far you can stray from
your preconceived notion of the band called Lush.
Lysa
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:44:14 -0700
On Thu, 2 May 1996, sweet and tender hooligan wrote:
> Call me brazen, cold hearted, or unsympathetic-- but really, let's return
> to matters of more serious relevance to the listing, if you don't mind...
That's a wonderful sentiment, and I hate to add to the off-topic-ness by
dragging your post along further (because I *agree* with you), but this
is, honestly, the most off-topic list I've participated in. Reminders in
the past to 'get back on topic' have all failed. <:-/ Don't expect much.
Mike
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:09:13 +0100
Chers amis de la dimension 4AD ,
Does anybody know if lush are going to play in france in 1996 ?
Actually, I'm in Lyon, and I they were here in sept 1994, but I *****
missed them ... so please, help me...
Mojave 3 are coming here next month, they play at "le Transbordeur".
Thanx to those who will help me and "Have a nice day !" to everybody.
Jaax.
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:47:05 PDT
My posting obviously stems from the original "I wanna get high" posting.
If a person can get away with a posting like this, then we could have requests
for "songs to clean my car to", "songs for urinating" etc. I just happened to
choose suicide, because more songs exist dealing with this not so happy
topic than, say, a carwash or a piss.
Suicide is a fact of life. Many of us on this list will know somebody who has
taken their own life. I am no exception, but avoiding the issue doesn't undo
what has happened. And not to sound like a prude, is taking drugs any better
than suicide. A whole bunch of people mailed me asking me to reconsider my
decision! Did anybody try and talk the person wanting to get high out of taking
rugs.
As far as I am concerned, using drugs is a surefire way of killing yourself in a
y case.
I know more people whose lives have been completely fucked up by the taking of
"harmless" drugs going from having decent jobs to ending up living in parks, car
accidents
from being so stoned (innocent 3rd parties being involved) etc.
The aftermath / pain of suicide is short (for people left behind). Drugs of cour
e can affect
other people for years and years. Which is worse?
Enough already.
Chris (still here)
PS Vultures. No - you cannot have my 4AD collection
PPS Zoon is really good in any case. Speed metal has its moments -
Thanks Carl for bringing me back:) (e, give it more chance)
PPPS Anybody know any good songs for making Coffee?
PPPPS Anybody owing me stuff should feel free to send it
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:55:17 +0200
Andie wrote:
>2. (With referrence to CAD X 703):
>Personally I don't think it's THAT special - yeah the box is nice but
>everything else is just duplicated about 4 or 5 times. Not worth $1000
>IMHO.
It's not even worth the 150,- GBP I paid for it, back in October 1987. I
still remember how disappointed I was when I got the box set, and how
embarrased I was when I showed it to a couple of friends, and they asked me
"How much did it cost?"
The two numbered screen prints that are enclosed, are the only items that
make the set somehow valuable, but apart from that: if you have the ltd. LP,
the video, the cassette and the CD, I can give you the precise measurments
of the ash wood box, so you can build one yourself!
>8. I think people may be somewhat disappointed with the TRR ltd ed having
>seen it at the studio and in Newcastle. I do like the first page though -
>nice layout. I'm glad I'm not paying 150 quid for my copy.
I've only seen snap shots of the pages, as displayed in Newcastle, but they
looked rather impressive. Let me put it this way: the TRR ltd. edition is
certainly more value for money that the LIAE ltd. box!!
Frank
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
+++++++++++++++++++
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:53:58 +0100
>> sweet and tender hooligan wrote:
>> Call me brazen, cold hearted, or unsympathetic-- but really, let's return
>> to matters of more serious relevance to the listing, if you don't mind...
> Heffalump replied:
>this is... the most off-topic list I've participated in. Reminders in
>the past to 'get back on topic' have all failed. <:-/ Don't expect much.
Chris Limb adds his tuppenceworth:
Perhaps so, but to tell the truth I do quite enjoy SOME of the off topic
threads as long as they don't go on too long. Healthy and stimulating
debate and discourse if you ask me. Wasn't too keen on the recent
"President's" thread, but there you go...
Now please don't go starting an off-topic thread about how off topic the list
is getting! That would be ridiculous.
Hang loose! :->
cheers
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 06:46:49 -0700
>But hey, anything by Spiritualized (the band Jason formed after
Spaceman 3)
>is even better...Obthislisty, I prefer This Mortal Coil's "Filigree
and
>Shadow".
>
or if anyone hasn't mentioned it... anything by Flying Saucer Attack is
pretty good... esp. "further." shrug.
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:44:56 +1000
My advice to people like Frank Brinkhuis and others who are waiting for
their LIMITED and obscured version of the THIS RIMY RIVER... is to buy a
NORMAL copy so you can tell what you're looking at in the book.
does the free CDs have "previously unreleased tracks by Elvis"?????
*LOL*
>i just heard 'single girl' off of the new lush and was extremely
>disappointed. i started with spooky and then went to gala. i loved both
>albums. will i be blowing my money if i buy the new album?
I saw the 7 inch vinyl in green. Anybody else seen that around the rest of
the world?
ARTC
later
Artc
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:58:49 -0700
'Technicolor', the last recorded and shelved album by Disco Inferno
will be released on Rough Trade Records on July 22nd. This comes directly
from someone at Rough Trade.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:32:14 +1000
>Are you people morons or are you just REALLY rude??
> e
No they are one "m" short of a "oron"
C'mon man this is a freaking 4AD mailinglist for crisssake!!
Not some suicide advice place. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
I'm going to subscribe to a Suicide/drug hallucination mailinglist.
MAYBE I MIGHT FIND SOME 4AD STUFF THERE!!!
later
Artc
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:44:59 +1000
3.Does anyone else find it a bit of a bind down loading sixty odd messages
a day from this list? Without naming any letters (sorry names - Freudian
slip), I wonder if people might consider not copying the whole of someone
else's long message and just keep tagging a line or two on at the end -
we've all read the previous messages, and I think we know there's a thread
going about songs to kill yourself/take drugs to without being prompted...
3.Does anyone else find it a bit of a bind down loading sixty odd messages
a day from this list? Without naming any letters (sorry names - Freudian
slip), I wonder if people might consider not copying the whole of someone
else's long message and just keep tagging a line or two on at the end -
we've all read the previous messages, and I think we know there's a thread
going about songs to kill yourself/take drugs to without being prompted...
3.Does anyone else find it a bit of a bind down loading sixty odd messages
a day from this list? Without naming any letters (sorry names - Freudian
slip), I wonder if people might consider not copying the whole of someone
else's long message and just keep tagging a line or two on at the end -
we've all read the previous messages, and I think we know there's a thread
going about songs to kill yourself/take drugs to without being prompted...
3.Does anyone else find it a bit of a bind down loading sixty odd messages
a day from this list? Without naming any letters (sorry names - Freudian
slip), I wonder if people might consider not copying the whole of someone
else's long message and just keep tagging a line or two on at the end -
we've all read the previous messages, and I think we know there's a thread
going about songs to kill yourself/take drugs to without being prompted...
>>>>>I AGREE!!!!
later
Artc
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:06:42 -0700
Liz had to "compete" with basketball hoops during the FCC tour/gig
at gymnasium at Towson State in Maryland...but it was very
intimate & one of the best shows I've ever seen/heard!
You go girl! (for Liz)
Carol Coney
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:36:06 -0700
Anybody on this list interested in Wire, or more specifically the tribute
compilation that came out recently with covers from Lush and MBV? I
haven't got it yet, but hear it is very excellent, especially if you are
a wire fan. Under it's review in CMJ, they said "recommended if you like
Laika or MBV".
Anyone care?
_Bri
PS. Making coffee, eh? how about Medicine. I consider coffee medicine,
and I certainly need my daily dose.....then I'm "wired". Wow. Bad pun. sorry.
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:33:15 +0200
> i had suggested the "is minty a man?" poster, but that would require a
>poster tube etc.... we'll see. like my source said, "no promises" but
>they're trying.
That wouldn't be fair to those who were at the exhibition, would it?
Besides that, why didn't you ask for a This Rimy River Limited poster?
Cheers,
Huite
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:50:15 -0400
hi!
is this real about a ltd ed cd that comes with the ltd ed rimy river?
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:39:13 +0200
>My advice to people like Frank Brinkhuis and others who are waiting for
>their LIMITED and obscured version of the THIS RIMY RIVER... is to buy a
>NORMAL copy so you can tell what you're looking at in the book.
He Artc, it was just a joke! If you check LOG9510 of the 4AD-L you'll see
that around October the 5th 1995 I've posted all details about the ltd.
edition to the 4AD-L myself! (long before they became part of the FAQ...)
>does the free CD have "previously unreleased tracks by Elvis"???
No, unfortunately not (there are TWO free CD's, by the way).
However, 4AD will soon re-release an old 1957 Rhythm & Blues hit (THIS IS
TRUE!!). I hope that'll make up for you.
Frank
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
[email protected]
+++++++++++++++++++
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:13:48 -0500
Hi all,
In my haste and stupidity, I deleted the digests I had in
my mailbox that had the DCD tour dates in them. Could
someone please email me these privately? I would so much
appreciate it.
Also, if anyone knows when tx go on sale for the Chicago
show, could you email me?
Thanks!!
--
Katherine (Trina) Sauer
Graduate Student and Goddess of Funkosity
Environmental Engineering and Science
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:17:54 -0700
Does anyone know of any good record stores(4AD selling) in Germany,
particularly Konstanz and vicinity? I'd appreciate any help and please
email me directly to avoid unnecessary clutter on the list.
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:48:29 -0700
Bay Area listies -- On the way to work I heard an announcement on KSCU
(103.3FM, Santa Clara, California) that their thislistiest DJ, Mr.
Munchichi, will be hosting a two-hour Cocteau Twins special next
Thursday, 9 May, from 4 to 6PM. He'll be playing lots of their music,
interviewing them, and giving away prizes such as copies of the box set.
Presumably this is in conjunction with KSCU's ongoing fund-raiser.
Hey, isn't [email protected] on this list? Maybe he can send out some
more details.
[Someone might want to forward this news to the Cocteau Twins list. I
unsubscribed last week, it just got too too tiresome. "Tishbite CD1 is
even better than CD2". "No it isn't!" "Yes it is!" Actually come to think
of it that sounds just like the 4AD list. Oh well...]
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:04:30 -0700
>hi!
>
>is this real about a ltd ed cd that comes with the ltd ed rimy river?
Jeez, Jens, now look what you started. Okay, folks, as at least two people
have said so far:
THERE ARE _NO_ CD'S COMING WITH THE LIMITED EDITION THIS RIMEY RIVER.
Never make jokes about free cd's on this list. It's like telling a room
full of kindergardeners "Hey kids! Free ice cream in the middle of the freeway!
Jake
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:32:26 -0700
Hey, for all those listies out there. I will be rounding up a
crea before the show at the beauty bar, 14st btw 2nd & 3rd aves.
Also, I may have up to 2 extra tickets for the sold out show. If a
listie needs them, call me at 854-4368. You have until 6pm.
Alex
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:21:50 -0400
Who here is going to the May 7 show in Cincy? Any word on whether M3 will be
playing an acoustic set in town for the the show as I have heard for so many
other cities?
[mail me back direct, and not the list as not everyone probably wants to hear
who is/not going to a particular show]
--
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~~~~~~~~~~>>
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www.cinesoft.com
"Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot."
513*321*8644
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:41:32 EDT
Brant wrote
>'Technicolor', the last recorded and shelved album by Disco Inferno
>will be released on Rough Trade Records on July 22nd. This comes directly
>from someone at Rough Trade.
I hope this is true. I've been badgering a friend of mine who's just signed to
One Little Indian (owners of Rough Trade) to try and get me a tape copy of this
for a while. According to a review in The Lizard last summer, it really is their
piece-de-resistance too. All we need now is that oft-promised third Blue Nile
LP, and I might even start being nice to everyone.
- Dez
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:55:53 -0500
i am going to be interviewing stereolab on may 11 at their cincinnati
show and was wondering if anyone had any particular questions that i
should throw at them. i'm also going to be interviewing lush, mojave,
and scheer the day before -- i have an extensive list of my own
questions, but feel free to add in questions for them as well if you
like. please respond privately...
thanks!
brian
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:25:05 +0100
>Could someone please e-mail me how to get off this list?
>
>[email protected]
>
>Thanks.
You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF 4AD-L" command to
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:39:42 -0700
>Is there a stereotype that 4AD fans fall into that some of us don't know about?
>i.e., are we preoccupied with drugs and suicide??? Perhaps because some of us
>STILL haven't received our limited edition This Rimy River...with the free
CD of
>demo tracks from Lush, Scheer, Jive Bombers, Mojave 3, Heidi Berry, Brendan
>Perry, and His Name Is Alive plus an previously unreleased Red House Painters
>song with a 23 minute guitar solo (limited edition of 23)...
Actually, they had to leave the HNIA tracks off of it, but I've heard that
they are putting them on the second cd that will be packaged with the deluxe
version of their new album out this year.
Jake
Who lives with the world's coolest kitty
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:34:45 -0700
can someone tell me HOW to subscribe? I don't have a computer of my own,
so I can't just but "subscribe" in the body. Can i still be on the
list????
Matt ([email protected])
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:08:20 -0400
Sorry about the Scheer poster post but I flubbed. Don't kill me! Please,
please, don't kill me soon....
CJ
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:07:03 -0400
Hi, Joel-
I'm interested in a Scheer poster - what does it look like?
And what would you be interested in trading?
Thanks
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:52:15 -0700
[Sorry to spam the list with this, but I owe this guy a flexi
disc and I can't raise him.]
Nick, mail to "[email protected]" has been bouncing for
weeks. Send me another address! -bk