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Subject: Dead Can Dance WWW Site
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:43:17 -0400
From: michael dziedzic (mdziedzic@MMILANO.TIAC.NET)
Subject: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:24:25 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Rosewater Elizabeth
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:39:00 CST
From: "Schwarz, Grant" (schwarz@MODWA.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:22:01 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: milk and kisses
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:59:40 +0800
From: Lim May Lin Melissa (art50981@LEONIS.NUS.SG)
Subject: Re: sweet f.a./SUEDE/Notverythislisty
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:15:45 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: while i'm at it...
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:49:53 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Hey Larry man....
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:49:56 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:50:17 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:46:59 -0500
From: "Me :)" (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: faye wong?
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:24:15 -0400
From: Lorraine Lelis (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Milk and Kisses + HK
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:58:26 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Rachel's for trade
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:14:35 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:03:13 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those interested in Pale Saints lyrics
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:26:32 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:44:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Time Stereo
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:03:45 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab: News From the Front. Peng! Peng!
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:59:42 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:52 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:46:49 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Quick reviewlets
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:39:35 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Area (was Re: Third Mind Catalog) (fwd)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:43:59 +0500
From: Brian McKay (bmckay@FORD.COM)
Subject: Lilliput
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:23:37 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:24:27 -0400
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:14 -0400
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: This Mortal Coil - 5 Selected Originals FS
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:49:13 -0700
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Everything but EBtG
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:51:12 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab in Fullerton, CA
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:54:20 +0000
From: Paul Rank (rank@LEVY.COM)
Subject: Re: Area (was Re: Third Mind Catalog) (fwd)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:07:18 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Lush discography
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:27:24 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Delicatessan
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:19:51 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: Re: Quick reviewlets
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:17:39 -0700
From: ozymandias G desiderata (ogd@ORGANIC.COM)
Subject: If you wanna get high...
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:13:58 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: more Slowdive hullabaloo
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:47:49 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: delikatessen (was City of Lost Children - movies)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:11:25 +0200
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@FILNET.FR)
Subject: Re: hnia live??
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:11:20 +0200
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@FILNET.FR)
Subject: Re: Delicatessan
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:20:55 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: more slowdive hullabaloo
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:42:45 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: Delicatessan
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:48:27 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:03:26 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: "Pink Opaque" for sale/trade..random thoughts
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:21:43 -0700
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: more slowdive hullabaloo
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:27:02 +0000
From: Sunday Records (sunday@PYROTECHNICS.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:55:09 +0000
From: Jamin Suwandi (jamin@VIVID.NET)
Subject: Re: If you wanna get high...
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:12:04 +0000
From: Jamin Suwandi (jamin@VIVID.NET)
Subject: Re: Lush discography
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:28:14 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: If you wanna get high...
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:24:42 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: for Trade
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:07:55 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:43:17 -0400
From: michael dziedzic (mdziedzic@MMILANO.TIAC.NET)
Subject: Dead Can Dance WWW Site


I am pleased to announce that the Dead Can Dance WWW Site has successfully
undergone a complete makeover.

Hopefully for the better.


Cheers,
Michael Dziedzic

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www.tiac.net/users/mmilano/dziedzic/intro.html

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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:24:25 -0700
From: Jack B Huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: cocteau us tour dates....


okay,

got this from the capitol web site, so i am not 100% sure. But i think it
is pretty good source, i am going to confirm it in a couple of days....

here they come to a city near you hopefully:

June 7 - Atlanta, GA - Roxy TENT
June 9 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club
June 10 - Boston, MA - Avalon
June 12 - New York - Roseland
June 14 - Toronto - Concert Hall
June 15 - Detroit, MI - St. Joseph Church
June 16 - Chicago - Riviera
June 18 - Denver, CO - Odgen Theatre
June 20 - Seattle - DV8
June 22 - San Francisco - The Warfield
June 23 -  - Modern Rock Live
June 24 - Los Angeles - Mayan or American Legion
June 27 - Rockford, IL - Lollapalooza


later

jack b huynh
jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu

                                http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:39:00 CST
From: "Schwarz, Grant" (schwarz@MODWA.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU)
Subject: Rosewater Elizabeth


Rosewater Elizabeth

      article by Rev. Jayson Elliot

      three girls  names, three types of train; three colors, three things
that are made of plastic...

      In a room in Seminole, Florida, The Green People played an ad-lib word
game, piecing together lyrics; aiming more for sound, feel and color than
meaning. When they were finished, the song that remained was named
 Rosewater Elizabeth.

      The Green People at the time consisted of Jeremy Wilkins, Melissa
Mileski, Daniel Rosen and Milza Barley.  Originally no more than a loose
collection of songs written by Jeremy and Milza in their bedrooms, The Green
People went on to add Melissa, a friend of Jeremy s from high school, as a
singer. Daniel, whom Jeremy had known since middle school and who was
teaching Jeremy to play guitar, signed on as their guitarist.

      With the completion of a permanent lineup, their sound began to
change, and as their sound and purpose changed, they felt it was time to
change the name to reflect what was, in essence, a new band.

      By January 1992, The Green People were no more, and in their stead
remained that new band; christened from the song, they were now Rosewater
Elizabeth.

      Over time, Milza ended up leaving the band, and before completing
their first album, Rosewater Elizabeth saw the addition of David Miville and
Lee Wiggins.

      Their first CD, Faint, was released in 1994 on local independent label
24 Hour Service Station.

      Faint s songs are like photographs, little landscapes of emotion that
draw the listener in with their sounds.  When asked into what category
Rosewater Elizabeth s sound might fit, vocalist Melissa responds,  people
have been calling it emotional, which is really nice; and I think it s kind
of a neat description for music it makes me very happy.

      Rosewater Elizabeth has a style that wanders through the specturm of
the ?thereal and ambient genres.  Drawing from influences ranging from Brian
Eno to This Mortal Coil, they use a variety of instruments and arrangements
to weave a sound that is sometimes soft and flowing, sometimes acoustic and
personal, and sometimes even noisy. Beginning with a simple arrangement of
traditional acoustic instruments and synthesizers, Rosewater Elizabeth
brings in different musicians and instruments on many different songs;
including a shakuhachi flute, sitar, and... bagpipes.

       There s a school here, Dunedin High School, where they have a bagpipe
troupe,  explains Jeremy,  and when Milza was in the band, he decided it
would be a really good idea to call them and find a bagpipe player. We found
one that had graduated and was going to USF, and she (Danette Rush) played
on our album.

       She played live with us several times it was almost as if people
didn t care what song we were doing, or what anybody else did, as soon as
the bagpipes came out, the audience just went crazy. It was such a strange
reaction to get, playing at a huge, outdoor arena like Janus Landing the
type of place where rock bands play... she was just amazed that people went
so fanatic over her.

       The first couple of times she wore the kilt and everything, but after
that she asked,  do I have to wear that?  and we told her of course not; so
from then on she dressed normally, but we always got the same response.

      A Rosewater Elizabeth show is an enigma it draws its power from the
emotion and passion of the music, rather than costumes and antics. Melissa
explains why their live shows look the way they do.

       I really don t like it when I see girls trying too hard to be
dramatic... trying to be something they re not.

       I look more like a boy than anything else,  Melissa laughs,  I guess
I just do whatever I feel like doing.  Jeremy is over banging on his
keyboards until it looks like he s in Jesus Jones; and Dan, our guitarist,
does not stand up, he sits down. He stomps his feet like he s stamping on
small cities and he s Godzilla... Well, nobody else thinks that, but I do I
always look at him and I crack up.

      Rosewater Elizabeth is now releasing their second full-length album,
Le Petit Morte. Drawing on a wider range of influences and experience, both
individually and collectively, Jeremy and Melissa each feel that they are
growing in important ways.

       I think the new album is a lot more clear, a lot more poignant
emotionally,  says Melissa,  I think we all wanted to do something on the
first album, that didn t come out as much as we wanted it to. The new album
is a lot more honest, a lot more real it s very emotional for me.

      Jeremy agrees that they have expanded musically as well.  At the core
of Rosewater, we are really influenced by the Cocteau Twins, This Mortal
Coil, all that,  he says,  and that s what the first album was.  On the new
album, we are able to accept that we have other influences, things like
Diamanda Galas, Nine Inch Nails, Bauhaus...

      It is high praise indeed for Le Petit Morte to say that it surpasses
Faint; it was the songs from Faint that inspired the owner of The Main
Street Coffee House in Fort Meyers, where Rosewater played, to write them a
two page letter that described itself as a  love letter  for the band.

       The Main Street Coffee House is this really wonderful place,  Jeremy
recounts,  it s an all-ages spot where anyone can go, it was the first place
we ever played in Fort Meyers. Cindy, the owner, gave that to me one night;
it was the fifth or sixth time we had played there. Marshall (24 Hour
Service Station) saw it and thought it would make a great bio, since we
didn t really want to say anything about ourselves. We asked Cindy if she
would feel comfortable if we used her letter instead of a bio, and she said
she would be flattered if we would.

      This minimalist approach to a press kit typifies Rosewater Elizabeth s
style. Faint and Le Petit Morte share a subdued power, one which can envelop
the listener while remaining personal and emotional.

      Where Faint might fit neatly in an early 4AD catalog, Le Petit Morte
goes on to define a unique style for them; one which falls somewhere between
ambient and acoustic, which sees noise as essential an element as silence.
Distant whispers of middle-eastern influences play along with long sorrowful
guitars and occasionaly dissonant noises, all working with a voice that
always felt more comfortable with Italian arias than rock and roll.

      When I was in art school, no one wanted me in their bands because my
voice was too frilly,  remembers Melissa,  and when I started singing with
The Green People, it was more Love And Rockets-type stuff. I was always more
comfortable with my voice, because I thought it was better, but I didn t
think they wanted to work with that. Then one day I was singing an aria, and
they suddenly said,  keep doing that!  so I kept doingthat...


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:22:01 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


> June 27 - Rockford, IL - Lollapaloo

lolla fuckin' palooza? will this work? will the masses catch on? will we
not have to suffer thru delayed release dates and import prices?
what will tomorrow bring?

i'm there for the june 9 date in d.c. anyone else?
dave
desarg@mail.wm.edu



      http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure
>


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:59:40 +0800
From: Lim May Lin Melissa (art50981@LEONIS.NUS.SG)
Subject: Re: milk and kisses


On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Lush Muse wrote:

> i haven't seen or heard about faye wong being in the cocteau twins cd...i
> have the ltd ed one in the gatefold type packaging and it doesn't even
> mention faye wong...does the version with her in it have extra tracks?

 Actually, I've seen the version of the Cocteau Twins CD with Faye
 Wong doing vocals for _Serpentskirt_...it's a Hong Kong release,
 and...*smile* by the way, I live in Singapore, and over here, we
 can find this particular release, the original one and the
 limited edition one as well.

 In one of her earlier albums, Faye Wong did a cover of _Bluebeard_...
 and she has one of the loveliest voices I've ever heard too.

 Hmmm...if anyone's interested in her stuff, I could help you get
 them -- they're easily available here.  :)





 -mel-


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:15:45 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: sweet f.a./SUEDE/Notverythislisty


On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, James P. Crimm wrote:

> What Suede song is this in?

        *Sleeping Pills, the final refrain goes:
         The sweet F.A./to do today/sweet F.A. to do todaaaaay/
         hey-hey-hey-haaay/sweet F.A.aaaaaaaaaaa  etc...

>      And what's happened to Bernard Butler? He was my favorite part of Suede
> (a *classic* r 'n r guitarist in a '70s glitter sort of way) and his parting
> ways with whats-his-name spelled the demise of the band in my book. I play
> their performance from the tonight show every once in a while to remember
> what rock and roll is all about. It's also amusing to see a clueless Jay
> Lenno introducing them ("Suede? I thought she was a stripper in Vegas.").


        *Bernard Butler is doing nothing. He released a few singles with
         a mr. McAlmont a while back under the moniker McAlmont and Butler
         (sounds like a haberdashery, don't it?). One of which, entitled
         "Yes" was quite awful.

         I've seen Suede several times, and
         i like them much better without B.B.. Their new axeboy, richard
         oakes, is a firecracker and can do B.B. lick for lick, but faster
         and with even more glam (less poutey/prancey im a rockstar shit).
         On the same note, i also prefer Dogmanstar to the 1st lp.

         dan k


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:49:53 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: while i'm at it...


On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, captain dave wrote:

> before i forget; did anyone happen to catch the dirteaters at the cmj
> conference last fall? it was at some tiny dive in nyc (next to "the
> bank") . anyway, there was some female there who looked similarly to pat
> benetar or someone who kept screaming at damian, the drummer. over an d
> over again. was this part of the show? is she a dirteater. ? she was also
> pissing the hell out of karin and warren didn't seeem too pleased to have
> her there scaring awway the audience.. she was shaking her beer and
> spraying it on karin. maybe i'm just some tame-assed fan.
> dave, who thinks moshers should spend some time in a trash compactor that
> smells of colt 45, sweat, and cheap cologne. take that you bastards!


        *i saw the dirt eaters at a benefit for the local college
         radio station here in ann arbor, and i was quite unimpressed.
         'cept for warren's noize, which ROCKED!

         beavis and butthead going "it rocked! it rocked!" 

        dan k.


Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:49:56 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Hey Larry man....


I didn't know that you guys would be THAT intrested in Faye Wong singing a
Cranberries song. She did that 2 years ago. Faye is a fan of the
Cranberries and as well as Bjork, She looked like Bjork for a while back.

I didn't think that her rendition of Dreams in CANTONESE (not Mandarin) was
alll that flash.
BTW she and the Berries are from the same recod company ie Polygram thus
she can sing their stuff.

Arthur Chan

later

Artc


Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:50:17 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


You guys don't have it as shit as us down here.
CDs cost almost A$30 each and they are ALL made locally. So the 4AD stuff
we get is reprinted and repressed in Australia which is shit.
Some of us 4AD collectors have been buying LP because they come form the UK
and the print quality is generally good.
The goverment has agreed to allow importing CD to compete with local CDs
etc. and what the record companies want to do if they allow imports? They
are going to Up the prices!!! *DOH*
In singapore I can buy US made Cd's for 2/3 the price at $20 each!
just thought you'd like to know.

Arthur Chan



later

Artc


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:46:59 -0500
From: "Me :)" (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


INCREDIBLE!!!

  I will be able to see them twice again this year!!!!!!!  The other time i
caught them twice was with the HOLV tour!!!!  I love it!  Illinois seems to
be their favorite state? :)  Well, IL and CA, arent we a lucky bunch? :)

  Well, ive made a few buys this past week...some on the recommedations of
this list.   First of all, Future Sounds Of London, cd single of
lifeforms...at first i didnt care for it much.....but the more i play it,
the more i enjoy it.  Great song to just sit on the bed headphone loud and
listen intently.  Liz and her chantra is great!  Somehow tho, i wish the
song had been more, "dancey"?  I think she could make a kick ass jungle
song!  Whatcha guys think?  Good buy, even at 11 bucks...ouchie!

  Second i found, by utter surprise, the vinyl of HOLV, at 6 bucks, so i
naturally i snatched it up!  Reckless is a great place to buy used records.
Great condition too!  That sleeve looks really great...and i finally get to
see the cover in its full glory. God i love vinyl.

 Third, i finally found Spoonfed Hybrid!!!!  I had a choice, the judge dredd
soundtrack, i do love need fire, or this.  Kinda a hard choice, least for
me, but i ended up with SH.  Am i glad i did.  And the funny thing too, i
got it used!!!! What kind of an ignant person would sell this back??  Ian
Masters is one brilliant writer!  These songs are so wonderful, at least i
think.  Different!  And at 12 dollars, a bargain.

  Now i just have to save up for the two coming concerts!  I said i'd never
go to a sillypoloozy, but if it has CT, damn im going!!!!

  Take care
ernesto



At 09:24 PM 4/28/96 -0700, you wrote:
>okay,
>
>got this from the capitol web site, so i am not 100% sure. But i think it
>is pretty good source, i am going to confirm it in a couple of days....
>
>here they come to a city near you hopefully:
>
>June 7 - Atlanta, GA - Roxy TENT
>June 9 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club
>June 10 - Boston, MA - Avalon
>June 12 - New York - Roseland
>June 14 - Toronto - Concert Hall
>June 15 - Detroit, MI - St. Joseph Church
>June 16 - Chicago - Riviera
>June 18 - Denver, CO - Odgen Theatre
>June 20 - Seattle - DV8
>June 22 - San Francisco - The Warfield
>June 23 -  - Modern Rock Live
>June 24 - Los Angeles - Mayan or American Legion
>June 27 - Rockford, IL - Lollapalooza
>
>
>later
>
>jack b huynh
>jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
>
>                                http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure
>
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:24:15 -0400
From: Lorraine Lelis (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: faye wong?


i wonder, does this lady frequently do cocteau covers?  sorry if i missed
most posts, but i just realized-

i once saw on a PBS station, this video of an Asian singer covering "Know
Who You Are at Every Age" in another language.  i thought it was japanese
but i could be wrong.

anyone know?


the hardly bilingual lorelei

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:58:26 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Milk and Kisses + HK


if you like the "city of lost children" try "delicatessan" by the same
director. i like it slightly better.
star vein


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:14:35 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Rachel's for trade


I've got a copy of the Rachel's Handwriting CD I'd like
to get rid of. I just find it far too lifeless and dreary,
so I'd like to trade for something like:

Tortoise
Flying Saucer Attack
Heavenly
Rasputina
Rocketship
Swirlies- Sneaky Flutes ep
Supergrass

By the way, the new Boyracer album is rather remarkable. Hated
them live, but this album shows them in a more melodic,
experimental, moving a bit toward Swirlies-like light.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:03:13 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]


> So in return can someone who has the previous "Evening At the Grange"
> (e?) tell me more about it? I recall hearing one track from it and it was
> somewhat Seefeely.

I like it much better than the full album. It's much more
"amorphous" and has far fewer of those intrusive baggy techno/
trip-hop beats. It's more prominently a vocal collection and far
more interesting to my techno shy ears. That Starburst 7 song
is on there, where it doesn't sound much like anything else.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:26:32 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: For those interested in Pale Saints lyrics


>For those interested in Pale Saints lyrics

>Luis B. Abcede (st5sd@JETSON.UH.EDU)
>Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:57:40 -0500
>Hi

>Sorry to clutter bandwith ... but just to keep everyone happy ... here's
>what I got from Andrew and BiZ a while back

>PALESTS.TXT

>barging into the presence of god

>sight of you

>the sight of you
>the sight of you

...

25 kilobytes of pale saints lyrics later....

sorry about this, i feel partly responsible. what luis should've done, of
course, is put a message out saying that he had the lyrics and that he'd
pass them on to anybody who wanted them via personal email and not just
spam the list with it, 25k times 400(?) people is a heck of a lot. asking
me before he did it would've been nice too, sulk.

anyway, i never got any corrections from the last lot of people i sent it
out to and a) there were lots of gaps and b) i'm sure there were plenty of
errors in there so, er, this is an appeal for input i suppose. ta.
--
a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk
touch fuzzy get dizzy...
er, buy the trembling blue stars single...

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:44:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush


On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, lorelei tremolor wrote:

> the yo la tengo gig is on may 2nd at 8 pm, at the Loeb Student Center-
> the Eisner & Lubin Auditorium.  the magnetic fields are opening...
> too bad i can't go...
>
> lorelei


oh c'mon.

those two legends aren't allowed to play together unless i'm there. i
would totally stiff the stp tour anyday for two of the best american
projects going(and america is a big country). the magnetic fields live
would be just delightful. is this a tour? i hope so. if anyone goes could
they give a review of the show for me. if the magnetic fields shirt looks
cool, then i'll buy one from the attendee.
star vein

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:03:45 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Time Stereo


i talked to davin two days ago about putting a time stereo web page on my
url. he said that he would ask warren if they were ready for a webpage.
you can get a catalog. pretty much everything is on cassette only for 4.50
post paid.


On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Can Time Stereo be reached over the net?  I'm in a html'ly mood, and I
> wondered whether they'd be interested in me setting up a Time Stereo
> web site...
>
> If Time Stereo has an email address, and they take VISA (& stuff),
> then I could even set up a Time Stereo Shopping Center type thingie.
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>   larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
>

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:59:42 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab: News From the Front. Peng! Peng!


this heard from their live set/interview on KCRW 4/25/96:

-snogs performed: Percolator, Metronomic Underground, Spinal Column
(formerly called Melancholy), Heavenly Van Halen

-the collaboration with Nurse with Wound has been finished for about a year.
steve (stapleton) recently told them he's going to redo the artwork.

-there was some mention of encores with Mouse on Mars (possibly in Germany)
and they may collaborate with them and/or Charles Long (again) in the future.

-they have two tracks on a coming Red Hot comp. covers of the songs
"Surfboard" and "One Note Samba"


I would say that Emperor TC is a shift in flavor for them, not as poppy,
more jazz riff based, sounding a bit more like some of the other "post-rock"
outfits. The happy melodies are not as present, but there is some serious
funkiness going on.
I would say, listen to the release a few times before
their show. Their show at Pomona on Sat. was mostly from
ETC with some poppy older "hits" mixed in. The songs are great live,
especially Metronomic Underground, Cybele's Reverie (my favorite on the album),
 and a quiet, delicate song, Spinal Column (not released yet.)

If you're catching the Troubador show tonight, find me and say hi!
(look for a yellow Jujyfruits shirt.)

-nck m

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:34:52 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush


On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Alex Wolfson wrote:

> For all those who can't go to lush (not being able to chew through you left
> foot is no excuse) yo la tengo is playing for 4-5 bucks at nyu!


WHY WHY WHY
why can't yo la tengo play in detroit!!!

in my top five live performances yo la tengo rates up there as one of my
favorites. oh it was so good for so many reasons. first the pastels opened
and then yo la just went all over the place while mesmerizing and
tinkering and guitar soloing and man it was good.
i want to here peoples five favorite shows of all-time
i'll start:
not in any order

1.yo la tengo/ the pastels
2.low/ velour 100/ windy & carl
3.his name is alive/ velour 100/ windy & carl/ godzuki
4.tortoise/ sea & cake/ 5ive style
5.dead can dance/ cocteau twins/ his name is alive/ velvet underground/
the beatles (i'm sorry that was a weird, but lovely dream i had)


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:46:49 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]


e queries piteously:
>(Does anyone here have that Hannant/Husik fulllength?)

I do, ha! because Gil mistakenly sent it to me instead of to you. We're
talking about

Husikesque "Green Blue Fire" (Astralwerks)

which is the second(?) collaboration between US indie-popper Lida Husik
and UK ambient electroniker Beaumont Hannant. According to the sleeve
Lida plays most all the instruments, with Beaumont providing beats and
production. I also assume he did a lot of the kbd programming since the
sounds are very much like that of his solo stuff which I've heard. I
can't comment on how much this sounds like solo Lida Husik because I
haven't heard any of her solo stuff. Still, I _am_ empowered to say that
this is neat stuff that falls midway between pop and
techno/trance/ambient -- most of the songs are definitely _songs_, with
some structure and lyrics and sometimes even choruses, but with lots of
great bleepy sounds and loops and other nice things. A couple of tracks
are more in the amorphous vein, but they act more as interludes between
the other songs. It's almost like you get an entire album pre-remixed for
you. It may be a little too cutesy and, uh, accessible for some (that's
why Gil sent it away) but I found it just right. "Bad Hair Day" is one of
the best pieces of pop I've heard all year, taking me back fondly to the
days of Tom Tom Club...

So in return can someone who has the previous "Evening At the Grange"
(e?) tell me more about it? I recall hearing one track from it and it was
somewhat Seefeely.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:39:35 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Quick reviewlets

          Brett Sher ,
          Doug Hill ,
          Peter Konopka 

Picked up some stuff this weekend that I feel like blurting out
commentary on for the benefit of youse listies:


Cocteau Twins "Tishbite" EP #2 (Fontana)
"Tishbite" is fairly forgettable, with a lot less instrumentation than
I'd expect from the Masters Of Overproduction -- you get a guitar line, a
bassline (plucked not strummed!), vocals, and the usual beatbox. "Round"
sounds more like traditional Cocteaux, but is rather by-the-numbers and I
didn't really warm to it. Moreover it demonstrates that they _still_ have
problems figuring out how to end songs.
But! "An Elan" is extremely cool, one of the best things I've heard from
them in ages and ages, and an indication that they "get" the whole
ambient/drone thang that's been going on, even without Mark Clifford's
help. The first half is built of a single tapping beat, a single strummed
Guthriestyle chord, and some subdued Liz vocals. Very hypnotic. It then
slowly builds into one of those patented Cocteau Twins gorgeous climaxes
-- this is one of the few songs I've heard from them in the last, oh,
seven years or so that really makes the hairs stand up on the back of my
neck. Glorious feeling.


Flying Saucer Attack "Further" (Drag City/VHF)
I have a pretty lackadaisical attitude toward picking up new FSA product
(this one's been out for a year or so, right?) but it always goes down a
treat. If the first one was the "rock album" and Distance was the
"ambient album" then this must be the "folk album" (he said,
overgeneralizing wildly.) Many of the songs are at heart plaintive little
acoustic-guitar ditties with HUGE SLABS OF WILDLY ECHOING AND LOOPING
SAWTOOTH FEEDBACK on top, thus providing that mixture of delicate
fragility and horrendous violence that we all dig so much (he said,
stating an objective fact.)
Very appropriate music to read Delany's "Dhalgren" to, I must say, since
that's what I've been doing. [Any other fans of this book want to chat
about it, send me private mail...]


Stereolab "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" (Elektra/Duophonic)
I'm going to have to listen to this one a few more times to get a true
impression of it. But at first listening I can say that
(a) "Metronomic Underground" is very groovy, with a jazzy/funky/Tortoisey
feel to it. My wife from the kitchen complained that it was too
repetitive, but only because from that distance she couldn't hear the
gradually accreting layers of complexity being piled on the basic riff
(which itself is tres cool) as the song goes on.
(b) "The Noise Of Carpet" is everything the old-Stereolab fan could want
-- a rave-up along the lines of "John Cage Bubblegum" but fuzzier and
noisier. If Stereolab did a punk song this would be it.
(c) There are other very nice songs on the album, but like "Mars Audiac
Quartet" before it, it seems to have four or five too many tracks and
wears out its welcome by the time it's ended. I started the album
thinking "Stereolab Have Returned!", kept this feeling for about 2/3 of
the way through, but ended up feeling disappointed.
But, I caution, I have only listened to it once. I think one listen is
sufficient for me to conclude that it's a lot better than MAQ, however.

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:43:59 +0500
From: Brian McKay (bmckay@FORD.COM)
Subject: Re: Area (was Re: Third Mind Catalog) (fwd)


cz said:
> Me too! but alas ...
>
> Agate Lines is a pretty rare (i've never seen it, and i'm always on the
> lookout for Area) compilation that includes songs from all four albums
> (i believe) and a few songs that i think were only released on tape before
> their C'est La Mort days (prior to their debut LP on Office records).  There
> was a full-on discography/everythingography a year ago (or was it two or
> three?) that was compiled.  Is the keeper of this thing still on the list???

Gosh, and to think I just re-subscribed to 4AD-L :)

I was/am the keeper of the discog, but it's been over a year since I last
updated it.  Here's the URL for the M7X home page:

        http://www.prairienet.org/arts/m7x/index.html

Click on Discography to see my document in it's glorified text format.

I guess the biggest thing the discog lacks is info on the Lanterna CD and
T-shirt and the M7X new style t-shirts.  Everything else there, should be
fairly accurate.

Agate Lines is a compilation, and includes some very rare tracks from off
of Area's first cassette, White Canvas, Hew Hope.  This cassette is way-out-
of-print, and I've never seen one; and if I remember correctly, the master
was lost when Office Records closed.  Also, Agate Lines was only released
in Europe, so very few copies (about 10, to the band) were sent to the US
when it was shipped.  The art is a very nice Chris Bigg piece, and pretty
impossible to describe (I've seen the framed original).

  The blurbs from my discog are below.

"Agate Lines" CD/LP, Third Mind TMCD59, 1990.
        Tracks                                  Origin(s)
        1. Anyway                               BPP
        2. Michael Writes His Parents           WC, RC
        3. I'll Gather Flowers                  PD
        4. Dry Spell                            BPP
        5. Parachute                            WC, RC
        6. Sympathy                             PD
        7. Filled                               BPP
        8. This One                             RC
        9. With Louise                          PD
        10. Guessing Game                       BPP
        11. All About Money                     WC
        12. Sisters of Mercy                    PD
        13. All There Is                        BPP
        14. A Fine and Still Line               WC
        15. Tunnel                              PD
        16. Copper                              WC

        Credits: with louise by Canfield/Rudd (differs from PD credits)

        Art: Chris Bigg (design and calligraphy)
             Beverley Carruthers (photography)

        Special: LP version only contains first 12 tracks.
                 Copper version on CD is only "half" of the original
                        version on "White Canvas, New Hope".

---

"White Canvas, New Hope", CS, Office Records fil-91, 1986.
        disappear here/ the blue spark/ crystal/ micheal writes his parents/
        copper/ fine and still line/ all about money/ parachute/
        sincerely charlotte/ white canvas new hope/ higher than heaven

        This is out-of-print.  Various tracks appear on other
        Area CD's.  micheal writes his parents and crystal are
        on "Radio Caroline."  higher than heaven, sincerely charlotte,
        and parachute are bonus tracks on "Radio Caroline".
        disappear here, the blue spark, and all about money are
        bonus tracks on "The Perfect Dream."  copper, and a fine
        and still line are on the Area compilation "Agate Lines."

        Art:  Lynn Canfield, Steve Jones

---

> Those stinkers at Projekt (Relic) keep saying they're gonna rerelease the old
> *Area* CD's but i don't see it in the catalogue

Projekt has been saying this for an EON.  As far as I know, Projekt actually
did acquire 2 or 3 of the masters from C'est La Mort, and was planning to
re-release the Area CD's, but there was some hang-up with respect to getting
all the licensing/permission to reissue the CD.  I sort of wonder if it will
ever be done...

-Brian McKay
vydra@wwnet.com

i'll send it to you.


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:23:37 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Lilliput


Hi all...

I've decided that I really need money far worse than I need my copy of
Lilliput. So, I'd like to auction it off, as I paid quite a bit of money for
it and would like to get all I can back!

My copy is in near perfect condition, there is a slight 'yellowing' at the
top 2" (on the front only), but the binding is in perfect shape, the 'gold'
4AD tag is in perfect shape (they tend to get bent), and as an extra added
bonus (!) I have had the book signed by Throwing Muses and Pale Saints.

The bidding will close on Friday, May 3rd.

Replies by e-mail only (duh).

Thanks,

Rick


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:24:27 -0400
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


i think that the june 15th show in detroit is at On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Jack B
Huynh wrote:

> okay,
>
> got this from the capitol web site, so i am not 100% sure. But i think it
> is pretty good source, i am going to confirm it in a couple of days....
>
> here they come to a city near you hopefully:
>
> June 7 - Atlanta, GA - Roxy TENT
> June 9 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club
> June 10 - Boston, MA - Avalon
> June 12 - New York - Roseland
> June 14 - Toronto - Concert Hall
> June 15 - Detroit, MI - St. Joseph Church
> June 16 - Chicago - Riviera
> June 18 - Denver, CO - Odgen Theatre
> June 20 - Seattle - DV8
> June 22 - San Francisco - The Warfield
> June 23 -  - Modern Rock Live
> June 24 - Los Angeles - Mayan or American Legion
> June 27 - Rockford, IL - Lollapalooza
>
>
> later
>
> jack b huynh
> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
>
>                                 http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure
>

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:26:14 -0400
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


sorry about that previous reply....my computer froze.  i think that the
june 15th show in detroit is at ST. ANDREWS HAll.  atleast that is venue
where they woyuld mosty likely play while in the motor city.
                                lesley


On Sun, 28 Apr
1996, Jack B Huynh wrote:

> okay,
>
> got this from the capitol web site, so i am not 100% sure. But i think it
> is pretty good source, i am going to confirm it in a couple of days....
>
> here they come to a city near you hopefully:
>
> June 7 - Atlanta, GA - Roxy TENT
> June 9 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club
> June 10 - Boston, MA - Avalon
> June 12 - New York - Roseland
> June 14 - Toronto - Concert Hall
> June 15 - Detroit, MI - St. Joseph Church
> June 16 - Chicago - Riviera
> June 18 - Denver, CO - Odgen Theatre
> June 20 - Seattle - DV8
> June 22 - San Francisco - The Warfield
> June 23 -  - Modern Rock Live
> June 24 - Los Angeles - Mayan or American Legion
> June 27 - Rockford, IL - Lollapalooza
>
>
> later
>
> jack b huynh
> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
>
>                                 http://www.cocteautwins.com/treasure
>

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:49:13 -0700
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: This Mortal Coil - 5 Selected Originals FS

              29, 96 10:39:35 am

Hi all,

I have a promo cd that I would like to sell/trade.
It is a promo from the 4AD box set This Mortal Coil 1983-1991

Song to the Siren - Tim Buckley 3:25
Carolyn's Song - Rain Parade  4:04
Kangaroo - Big Star 3:44
Another Day - Roy Harper 2:58
You and Your Sister - Chris Bell 3:11

Please e-mail me your trade list or offer.

Thanks.

Dave

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:51:12 -0400
From: "Gil Gershman (GuerillaG/TooKranky)" (TooKrnky@AOL.COM)
Subject: Everything but EBtG


Just bringing this to yr attention:


(U=previously unreleased)

*Disc 1

The Linus Pauling Quartet - Dartania (U)   <--- Mike Gunn connections. Love
them.
The Green Pajamas - Deadly Nightshade (U)
Palace - Black/Rich Tune (U)
Porcupine Tree - Ptolemine Treescope (U)
The Powder Monkeys - The Supernova That Never Quits (U)
The Wellwater Conspiracy - The Far Side of Your Moon (U)   <--- aka: Hater
Peter Buck & Scott McCaughey - Hate Me More <--- Young Fresh REM; from
"Georgia"
Current 93 - Nihil (U) <-- 'E', take note!
Charalambides - Drop (U)  <--- the band that could have been Kranky....
The Bevis Frond - Dry Rain (U)   <--- it's HIS party!
Kable - Omar (U)
Spirit - Cages (U)
Flying Saucer Attack - Bare Trees (U) <--- * * * * * * * * * * !!!!!
collector scum, arise!
Clockbrains - Everything You Want (U)
The Marilyn Decade - Cock Marsh on Bicycles (U) <---   calling all Roy M.
fans...
Motorpsycho - The Nerve Tattoo (non-album version)
Captain Sensible - So Far Out (U) <--- well I'll be Damned!

(not even CLOSE to finished!)

*Disc 2:

Nurse With Wound - Angle (U)
Sundial - Red Sky (U demo)
The Olivia Tremor Control - The Ships (U) <--- NMH/ERP/Lilys/Eggs/OTC... A++
pop
The Flyte Reaction - New Sunrise (U)
Dunlavy - Wesleyan (U)
Robyn Hitchcock - She Was Sinister But She Was Happy (U)  <--- someone likes
him..
Bardo Pond - Affa (U) <--- ******* FSA is dead! Long live the Pond!
Moosehart Faith - You Are Just a Flying Egg (U)
The Heads - Spliff Riff (U)  <--- not a "Headz" club band, I'm sure.
Cul de Sac - Into the Cone of Cold (U)    <--- The Great White Hope for US
Music.
The Lucky Bishops - Ashtralia (U)
Endino's Earthworm - Fried, Baked, or Scrambled (U)
Ethereal Counterbalance - Let it Fly (U)
Medicine Ball - Building and Building (U)
Strapping Fieldhands - Tale From Telegewae (U)  <--- GbV going through
withdrawl
Ghost - Beyond Coimbula (U) <--- Magic Hour pals
Coil - Lost Rivers of London (U)   <--- 'E', you still reading?  ****
Magic Hour - Sunrise Variations (U)   <--- a fitting end to a fantastic set.

You want it.
You need it.
Go get it.

Ask John (Bcrayon@en.com)... let him hook you up.

Okay, so there's no EBtG on there.
.... but there's an EBtG "Walking Wounded" EP with an amazing remix by Spring
Heel Jack (and a just-as-nice one by Omni Trio). Get that too. You need it.
Talk to John. He's the man.

I'm out like an empty vending machine
GuerillaG

not listening to the PT comp (too much greatness... can't handle it right
now); grooving instead to Sufi vs. Sugarboat. Yum!


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:54:20 +0000
From: Paul Rank (rank@LEVY.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab in Fullerton, CA


> From:          Rocky Colavito 
> Subject:       Stereolab in Fullerton, CA

> Last night was stereolab's first show of their tour. I really have not been

Any singles for sale at the show?  Hopefully we'll get something
along the lines of  the previous tour split singles with Unrest, Tortoise,
and Yo La Tengo (as opposed to last US tour's Ping Pong single).

Also, has anyone seen Stereolab on one of their 2-show nights?  Just
wondering if its worthwhile to catch both San Fransico shows.....

---
Paul Rank
rank@levy.com   pjr@netcom.com
"Sometimes dead people won't eat their yogurt" - DNRC8

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:07:18 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Area (was Re: Third Mind Catalog) (fwd)


>Agate Lines is a compilation, and includes some very rare tracks from off
>of Area's first cassette, White Canvas, Hew Hope.  This cassette is way-out-
>of-print, and I've never seen one; and if I remember correctly, the master
>was lost when Office Records closed.  Also, Agate Lines was only released
>in Europe, so very few copies (about 10, to the band) were sent to the US
>when it was shipped.  The art is a very nice Chris Bigg piece, and pretty
>impossible to describe (I've seen the framed original).
>---
>"White Canvas, New Hope", CS, Office Records fil-91, 1986.
>        disappear here/ the blue spark/ crystal/ micheal writes his parents/
>        copper/ fine and still line/ all about money/ parachute/
>        sincerely charlotte/ white canvas new hope/ higher than heaven
>
>        This is out-of-print.  Various tracks appear on other
>        Area CD's.  micheal writes his parents and crystal are
>        on "Radio Caroline."  higher than heaven, sincerely charlotte,
>        and parachute are bonus tracks on "Radio Caroline".
>        disappear here, the blue spark, and all about money are
>        bonus tracks on "The Perfect Dream."  copper, and a fine
>        and still line are on the Area compilation "Agate Lines."

I have a copy of _White Canvas New Hope_, and it wasn't that hard to acquire at
the time.
--gary

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:27:24 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Lush discography


As promised, here is the Lush discography from Record Collector magazine. I've
not bothered with values (I'm assuming none of you are breadheads). I recommend
the article to everyone. It seems '500' will be the next single. Whether it will
come with another set of seven b-sides, I don't know.

By the way, Lars, your hopes are confounded. Lovelife has outsold all previous
Lush LPs by a large margin already.

SINGLES

JAD911  Scar (Baby Talk/Thoughtforms/Scarlet/Bitter/Second
Sight/Etheriel) 12"/CD  1989
BAD0003 Mad Love (De-Luxe/Leaves Me Cold/Downer/Thoughtforms)   12"/CD  1990
AD0013  Sweetness And Light/Breeze      7"      1990
BAD0013 Sweetness And Light/Breeze/Sunbathing   12"/CD  1990
AD1016  Black Spring (Nothing Natural/God's Gift)       7"      1991
BAD1016 Black Spring (Nothing Natural/Fallin' In Love/God's Gift/Monochrome)
12"/CD  1991
BAD(D)2001 For Love/Starlust/Outdoor Miner/Astronaut    Ltd10"/12"/CD   1992
AD4008  Hypocrite/Love At First Sight   7"      1994
BAD4008 Hypocrite/Love At First Sight/Cat's Chorus/Undertow     12"/CD  1994
AD4010  Desire Lines/Whitewood  7"      1994
BAD4010 Desire Lines/Whitewood/Girl's World/Lovelife    12"/CD  1994
AD6001  Single Girl/Sweetie     Ltd7"   1996
BAD6001 Single Girl/Tinkerbell/Outside World/Cul-de-Sac CD      1996
BADD6001 Single Girl/Pudding/Demystification/Shut Up    CD      1996
AD6002  Ladykillers/I Wanna Be Your Girlfriend  Ltd7"   1996
BAD6002 Ladykillers/Matador/Ex/Dear Me  CD      1996
BADD6002 Ladykillers/Heavenly/Carmen/Plums And Oranges  CD      1996


ALBUMS

CAD0017 Gala    LP/CD   1990
CAD2002 Spooky  LP/CD/LtdCD/2x10"       1992
CAD4011 Split   LP/CD   1994
CAD6004 Lovelife        LP/CD   1996


UK Promos

LUSH1   Nothing Natural/God's Gift/Monochrome/Nothing Natural   CD      1991
LUSH2   Hypocrite/Undertow      12"     1994
LUSH3   Desire Lines/Lovelife   12"     1994
LUSH4   Single Girl     12"     1996
LUSH5   Single Girl/500/I've Been Here Before/Last Night        CD      1996
LUSH6   Ladykillers     12"     1996
LUSH7   Ciao    CD      1996


US Promos

PRO-CD-4662 De-Luxe (3 versions) CD     1990
PRO-CD-4568 Sweetnes And Light (2 versions)     CD      1990
PROC-4608 Words And Music (10 tracks from Gala + interview)     cass    1990
9 40231-2 (as LUSH1)    CD      1991
PRO-CD-5471 Superblast/Starlust/Fallin' In Love/Superblast      CD      1992
PROC-6996 Kiss Chase/Undertow   cass    1994
PRO-S-7181 Lit Up(demo)/Rupert The Bear 7"      1994 (free with Soil
Samples #17)
PRO-A-8034 Last Night (2 mixes)/Undertow/Lovelife/Ladykillers   CD/12"  1996


Miscellaneous

Etheriel & Second Sight (both live) on Donde Esta Los Insects? (DELI03 cass
1989)
Scarlet on Gigantic 2 (Melody Maker MM1 CD 1990)
Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep on Alvin lives In Leeds (Sound of Spasm CLANG 4 LP/CD
1990)
And David Seaman Will Be Very Disappointed About That - The Lillies (Cockadoodle
COCK1 7" flexi)
Tiny Smiles on Volume 2 (Volume V2CD CD 1991)
Starlust (live) on In A Field Of Their Own (NME Glaston1 2CD 1993)
De-Luxe on Lilliput (4AD Lilliput 1/2 2CD 1992)
Nothing Natural on ...And Dog Bones Too (21512 promo CD 1992)
Desire Lines (demo) on 13 Year Itch (4AD Shuffle CD 1993)
Lit Up (demo) / Rupert The Bear (fan club 7" flexi 1993)
The Childcatcher on Secret Tracks 2 (Select Mag. May 94 cass)
The Childcatcher on All Virgos Are Mad (45789 promo CD 1994)
Tinkerbell on Volume 10 (Volume V10CD CD 1994)
The Childcatcher on From Greer To Eternity (Fierce Panda NING05 2x7" 1994)
Love At First Sight on Nings Of Desire (Fierce Panda NONG1 CD 1995)
Mannequin on Whore (WMO 002 CD 1996)
Half And Half on Volume 16 (Volume V16CD 1996)

- Dez

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:19:51 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: Delicatessan


>if you like the "city of lost children" try "delicatessan" by the same
>director. i like it slightly better.

I've been wanting to, but am a little squeamish when it comes to cannibalism.
Is it as visually beautiful as the "colc"?

Jon

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:17:39 -0700
From: ozymandias G desiderata (ogd@ORGANIC.COM)
Subject: Re: Quick reviewlets

              <9604291738.AA06957@alink-gw.apple.com>

Damn fine .sig quote, Jens.

ozy

PS -- http://www.organic.com/Staff/ogd/neveryona/

ozymandias G desiderata      ogd@organic.com        Desperate, Deathless
(415)284-6888     http://www.organic.com/Staff/ogd/       ::AOAIOXXYSZ::


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:13:58 -0700
From: [suppressed]
Subject: If you wanna get high...


To all listies:

If I wanna get high for the first time(rite of passage, gotta do it)
Which albums(Cocteau Twins/This Mortal Coil) would you recommend, if at all,
while you're high?  The folks I'll be with have never heard of 4AD and I
don't want to come across as a kook.  They're Pink Floydians, but the
sounds are "similar" in ambience, are they not?  I'm thinking
VIctorialand or Blue Bell Knoll, but I want an opinion from someone
who's experienced the "feel" to give me a recommedation.

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:47:49 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: more Slowdive hullabaloo


Okay.  I'm either very deluded or insanely lucky.  It was my understanding
that the Holding Our Breath ep was out of print.  However, in addition to
the copy I found up here, I found another one last weekend.  So which of the
following is correct:

a)The heroin I had for breakfast made me erroneously believe that this ep
was   out of print

b)It has been reissued

c)I'm a fantastically lucky individual and should go buy a lottery ticket
right now

Also, I saw someone selling a flexi of theirs a few days ago (but I was too
late to get it).  Does anyone know if they have a flexi or songs on any
compilation albums that do not appear on their albums or ep's?

By the was, the Holding Our breath ep I saw was on Vinyl at Vinyl Fetish on
Melrose.

Thankyamuch,
Jake

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:11:25 +0200
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@FILNET.FR)
Subject: Re: delikatessen (was City of Lost Children - movies)


>if you like the "city of lost children" try "delicatessan" by the same
>director. i like it slightly better.
>star vein

Yes, IHMO, Delikatessen is better than "city of lost children". A strange
athmosphere, dark lights and strange people, but with much more humor, po=E9=

The world in Delikatessen seems less far away from us than in CoLC:
it could be a kind of "no hope" East country, were there is no more
meat, and the butcher is in the habit of hiring some fresh young man...
to work before beeing cut in slices !  At least until the new young man fall
in love with the definitly moypic daughter of the butcher.

Jeunet & Carot (the directors) comes from the world of TV ads. Delikatessen
is their first (long) movie, they are very inventive but don't seem to be
able to come out from this dark ambiance: quite all the people here in Franc=
e
have been less impressed by CoLC than Delikatessen.

                       ___
Laurent Lapierre      |-,-|    . . . e n i v r e z - v o u s . . .
lapierre@filnet.fr    | - |    [words BaudelairE  music StereolaB]
 http://www.filnet.fr/perso/lapierre/

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:11:20 +0200
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@FILNET.FR)
Subject: Re: hnia live??


>>Could someone post a short review on each [worthly] Time Stereo tape
>>?
>
>>I own HNIA _Live in Mexico_ (great), ESP Summer, New Grape..., but
>>are Time Piano, Pail Saint, Noise Camp, Beat Bandit worth ?
>
>>Assuming I prefer samples, sounds and pencil guitar to harsh noise...


>    HNIA live in Mexico??
>    How is it? What songs come?

It's a live from Mexico (1993), remixed by Warrn in 1994 I suppose,
great performance and mix, some known songs from _Livonia_ to MbM, always
in a very different version than on lps, some others unreleased songs.
The tape reads "Live 1993 recording 1994 Mexico", and the play list has
nothing to do with known titles!
Some parts are very harsh sounds, but most of the tape is in the HIiYH way,
and with some piano 'interludes' between songs (Harold Budd ?)

4.50 ppd (in US) from Time Stereo (address in FAQ...)

Essential for every Warr'n fan.

>
>    What do you have from esp summer?
>
the ESP-Summer tape from Time Stereo, ESP-Continent _Mars is a ten_ lp from
Karina Square (french release of the same tape), and the ESP_Summer 10''
released from Farrago records...   Again, See the FAQ for details.

                       ___
Laurent Lapierre      |-,-|    . . . e n i v r e z - v o u s . . .
lapierre@filnet.fr    | - |    [words BaudelairE  music StereolaB]
 http://www.filnet.fr/perso/lapierre/

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:20:55 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delicatessan

              1996 14:19:51 -0700

>   >if you like the "city of lost children" try
>   "delicatessan" by the same
>   >director. i like it slightly better.
>
>   I've been wanting to, but am a little squeamish when it
>   comes to cannibalism. Is it as visually beautiful as the
>   "colc"?

Awww!  come on, don't be a weenie.  :)
(cannibalism pun intended)
They're both great films!  I found Delicitessen to be more humorous but less
visually flamboyant.  But since this really doesn't have anything to do with 4AD
we should probably take this to personal e-mail.

-cz


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:42:45 -0400
From: WILDER SPACEMAN GONZALES AGREDA (932307@CENCO.ULIMA.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: more slowdive hullabaloo


>Okay.  I'm either very deluded or insanely lucky.  It was my
>understanding that the Holding Our Breath ep was out of print.
>However, in addition to the copy I found up here, I found another
>one last weekend.  So which of the following is correct:

>a)The heroin I had for breakfast made me erroneously believe that
>this ep was   out of print

    Heroin on breakfast? that sounds great, then you eat something or
what? how much time does it last for you?

>b)It has been reissued

>c)I'm a fantastically lucky individual and should go buy a lottery
>ticket right now

>Also, I saw someone selling a flexi of theirs a few days ago (but I
>was too late to get it).  Does anyone know if they have a flexi or
>songs on any compilation albums that do not appear on their albums
>or ep's?

>By the was, the Holding Our breath ep I saw was on Vinyl at Vinyl
>Fetish on Melrose.

>Thankyamuch,
>Jake

    I remember that Some velvet morning appeared originally on a
sampler which name i forgot. A friend have it.

    Do you have great stuff to trade?

    Regards.

            Wilder

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:48:27 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delicatessan


At 3:20 PM 4/29/96, cz wrote:
>>   >if you like the "city of lost children" try
>>   "delicatessan" by the same
>>   >director. i like it slightly better.
>>
>>   I've been wanting to, but am a little squeamish when it
>>   comes to cannibalism. Is it as visually beautiful as the
>>   "colc"?
>
>Awww!  come on, don't be a weenie.  :)
>(cannibalism pun intended)
>They're both great films!  I found Delicitessen to be more humorous but less
>visually flamboyant.  But since this really doesn't have anything to do
>with 4AD
>we should probably take this to personal e-mail.
>
>-cz

I saw the movie when it first came out. Delicitessen, as far as I remember,
has one yuck scene. But, its really funny.  The movie has more to do with
the strange and funny relationships that people have with each otherthan
acts of cannibalism.

==================================================
"Keep Peace With Your Soul. Strive to be Happy. It's Not Easy Fighting the
20th Century."
              In The Nursery
                                     ~|~
                                    /---\
                                   | 0^0 |
                                     <">
                                    \/*\/
                                 Fred Da Pagan
                                   _/_/_/_/
                                  _/   _/
                                 _/_/_/
                                _/
                               _/
           /\_/\
           (o o)
      --ooO-(o)-Ooo--  Pagan Man's sidekick gOD.

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:03:26 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Review of Husikesque [Re: Was it Area? I will show you how!]


At 9:46 AM 4/29/96, Jens Alfke wrote:
>e queries piteously:
>>(Does anyone here have that Hannant/Husik fulllength?)
>
>I do, ha! because Gil mistakenly sent it to me instead of to you. We're
>talking about
>
>Husikesque "Green Blue Fire" (Astralwerks)

I was really disappointed by the song, " Bad Head Day" on CMJ Monthly. I
describe it as a really weak attempt to capture people to listen to weak,
trite, wannabe ambient music. I must assure those out there is 4ADland that
this is not ambient music. Please tell me the album is stronger than this
song.  She also got "props" from Option magazine. So, i don't know what to
believe. My ears or my eyes.:)

==================================================
"Keep Peace With Your Soul. Strive to be Happy. It's Not Easy Fighting the
20th Century."
              In The Nursery
                                     ~|~
                                    /---\
                                   | 0^0 |
                                     <">
                                    \/*\/
                                 Fred Da Pagan
                                   _/_/_/_/
                                  _/   _/
                                 _/_/_/
                                _/
                               _/
           /\_/\
           (o o)
      --ooO-(o)-Ooo--  Pagan Man's sidekick gOD.


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:21:43 -0700
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: "Pink Opaque" for sale/trade..random thoughts


I found a NEW copy of the coteaus "Pink Opaque" a while ago, and I love
it.  But I'm not that big of a Cocteau Twins fan, and I wan't someone who
really likes them to have it.  Also, I'm broke broke broke, so that
should explain something, too.  Bidders or traders (only if it's a damn
good trade, i.e. -HNIA, Pixies, Throwing Muses, etc.) can e-mail me.
Thanks...
Also, since Warren has done these collaberations with everyone else on
4AD AND their mother, when is the big "Kim Deal/Warren Defever" or
"Kristen Hersh/Warren Defever" projects planned???  Those would truly be
awesome.  C'mon, people!  We all know it's bound to happen!  Beside John
McEntire and Steve Albini, whose the most widely used producer in the
world?  WARREN DEFEVER!  Golly.  Anyway, thanks for listening...

Matt
Mdebelli@shrike.depaul.edu


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:27:02 +0000
From: Sunday Records (sunday@PYROTECHNICS.COM)
Subject: Re: more slowdive hullabaloo


you can still get the flexi from IPR mail order
e-mail them at     bcapps@primenet.com

>
> >Also, I saw someone selling a flexi of theirs a few days ago (but I
> >was too late to get it).  Does anyone know if they have a flexi or
> >songs on any compilation albums that do not appear on their albums
> >or ep's?
>
> >By the was, the Holding Our breath ep I saw was on Vinyl at Vinyl
> >Fetish on Melrose.
>
> >Thankyamuch,
> >Jake
>
>     I remember that Some velvet morning appeared originally on a
> sampler which name i forgot. A friend have it.
>
>     Do you have great stuff to trade?
>
>     Regards.
>
>             Wilder
>
>

************************************************
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{ http://www.pyrotechnics.com/~sunday/sun }
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{ http://www.pyrotechnics.com/~sunday }


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:55:09 +0000
From: Jamin Suwandi (jamin@VIVID.NET)
Subject: Re: cocteau us tour dates....


In the US we could get Cocteau Twins as low as $10.99 (not piracy
stuff)

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:12:04 +0000
From: Jamin Suwandi (jamin@VIVID.NET)
Subject: Re: If you wanna get high...


I'd recommend neither one. I prefer 'only shallow' by MBV and 'spread
your wings' by Spiritualized.

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:28:14 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Lush discography


>BAD(D)2001 For Love/Starlust/Outdoor Miner/Astronaut    Ltd10"/12"/CD   1992

Does anyone has this little item for sale (or trade)? Just curious... (and
desperate).

pepe
*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************


Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:24:42 -0500
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: If you wanna get high...


>To all listies:
>
>If I wanna get high for the first time(rite of passage, gotta do it)
>Which albums(Cocteau Twins/This Mortal Coil) would you recommend, if at=
 all,
>while you're high?  The folks I'll be with have never heard of 4AD and I
>don't want to come across as a kook.  They're Pink Floydians, but the
>sounds are "similar" in ambience, are they not?  I'm thinking
>VIctorialand or Blue Bell Knoll, but I want an opinion from someone
>who's experienced the "feel" to give me a recommedation.
>
>

I=B4ve never got high in my whole life (24 in two weeks), but my first=
 choice
would surely be the Twins=B4 Treasure...

Pepe (the guy whose brain is still 100% intact.... ackkk!)


*************************************************
'Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death.'
                               The Sundays
*************************************************

Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:07:55 +1000
From: Arthur Chan (arthurchan@A011.AONE.NET.AU)
Subject: for Trade


I have a double CD set of "Sounds of 4AD" released (1995) in South East
Asia licenced by Red Hot Inc with Lennon Records (Taiwan) to raise money
for AIDS Charity.

It's a limited edition and only avaliable in SE Asia. The CDs "One" and
"Two" has the exact song list as the 2 CDs in the LILLIPUT BOOK. It also
comes with a 4AD box that will fit 5 CDs. (email me for the song list.)
It's the closest thing that some will come to the Lilliput book.

Is there anyone out there who might want to trade it for a 4AD book (This
Rimy River) or a 4AD calendar/ poster set ect.? I want something like a
book or poster hardcopy. Negotiable

What is the going rate for the "Lonely Is An Eyesore" complilation??

Arthur chan

later

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