Subject: Re: Milk and Kisses + HK
Subject: a bittersweet quiz
Subject: while i'm at it...
Subject: Re: a bittersweet quiz
Subject: Re: Milk and Kisses + HK
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive
Subject: HNIA LIVE? WARREN LIVE! ESP SUMMER FULL-LENGTH! TORTOISE! FUXA!
Subject: Re: His Name Is Alive
Subject: Re: Tortoise
Subject: Time Stereo
Subject: Lilliput.....
Subject: Re: Milk and Kisses + HK, Cranberries?!?
Subject: Re: me, a reviewer? aww shucks...
Subject: Area
Subject: for trade
Subject: Time Stereo Tapes Review wanted
Subject: Re: pale saints flexi?
Subject: movies
Subject: New Lush Gallery
Subject: Re: pale saints flexi?
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:07:52 -0700
>
> Thought this was of interest to folks on the list.
> BTW: If you get the chance to see Wong Kar Wai's
> "Chungking Express," go for it (the Faye Wong mentioned
> above is in it). I loved the photography
> in it--overall, a very existential movie.
You know, this movie really made me ill. I read a bunch of reviews and
it sounded so good. But man this movie tries way too hard to be cute.
I think it had some good ideas but it drags on and on, and that damn song
"California Dreaming" gets played at least 6 times. To tell you the
truth, the best movie I have seen lately or ever is "The City of lost
children". Simply phenomenal. The soundtrack is great too.
Brett
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 01:56:44 +0000
Having just gotten the new projekt/darkwave catalogue, Darryl and I
have been inspired to give you guys a little quiz, which we like to
THE PROJEKT/DARKWAVE MIX-N-MATCH
We will provide you with the names of various projekt and/or darkwave
artists and descriptions of their musical styles, taken right from
the catalogue! It's up to you to match the projekt/darkwave artist
with the labels' own portrayal thereof. Note: some bands have more
than one description.
Why should I do this, You ask? because its fun! The results will be
emailed to the good people at projekt/darkwave, with a suggestion that
the winner receive a sampler cd or something as a prize for their
fanatic devotion.
Needless to say, no fair pouring over your own catalogues to find
these references. And of course, mail the responses back to me, and
not the list
[email protected]
the bands
1. black tape for a blue girl
2. lycia
3. soul whirling somewhere
4. love spirals downwards
5. bleak
6. aghast
7. lovesliescrushing
8. steve roach and vidna obmana
9. raison d'etre
10. attrition
the descriptions
a. Bursting forth like a lucid dream, this release drifts through
hollow, darkened hallways of sublime, delicate textures_ unearthing
powerful connections to deeper truths.
b. _a sound that captures the sensation of falling, floating on a
wave of sounds bleeding into one another like staining watercolors.
c. Deep within the realm of inner emotions, far beyond the facade
of the ordinary, lies a desert of larger-than-life beauty that clashes
with terrifying chaos. It is a land of extremes, where the lines between
intense emotions are vague, where logic is meaningless, mood is
everything. Existence becomes a mirror_ perception, reflection, reality.
d. When the habits of logic evaporate in the trances of an unbridled sun,
you begin to recognize the things your eyes prefer to hide.
e. _angelic tracks tripping through peaceful illusions and fantasies,
only briefly accessible in dreamsoaked memories.
f. Tense and disturbing, the music is unsettling, yet infinitely satisfying.
Futuristic nightmares vie with horror from the here and now.
g. A journey through the body and soul awakening hidden and long
forgotten chants and dreams. Utterly dark and mesmerizing sounds to
fill your heart with a cold winter depression.
h. a dense atmospheric haunted mansion of electronics and lost,
whispered vocals echoing and swirling away. Quite scary.
i. A soundtrack of alienation, frustration, and longing. To be listened
to late at night when the distractions of the world are minimal, when a
more pure state of emotion can be achieved.
j. _a world that simmers with meaning during the day and whispers a
whole set of other insights at night.
k. Terrifying by moonlight, thoroughly depressing in daylight, this is a
supreme dark delight.
l. It's quite a lot to digest. It's amazing and emotional, nearly driving me
to tears_ reminding me of feelings that haven't been stirred in me in
quite some time. Very bittersweet.
m. _unexpected minor-keyed lyrics tug melodies into delicate, poignant
regions of bittersweet sadness.
n. Share the bittersweet existence we all experience but few
acknowledge.
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 03:58:31 -0400
before i forget; did anyone happen to catch the dirteaters at the cmj
conference last fall? it was at some tiny dive in nyc (next to "the
bank") . anyway, there was some female there who looked similarly to pat
benetar or someone who kept screaming at damian, the drummer. over an d
over again. was this part of the show? is she a dirteater. ? she was also
pissing the hell out of karin and warren didn't seeem too pleased to have
her there scaring awway the audience.. she was shaking her beer and
spraying it on karin. maybe i'm just some tame-assed fan.
dave, who thinks moshers should spend some time in a trash compactor that
smells of colt 45, sweat, and cheap cologne. take that you bastards!
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 03:52:43 -0400
you know what? all these band description tell joe catalog browser
nothing about the bands. those description could be interchanged and
noone would know the fucking difference! i think sam and co. spend a
little too much time flipping through the thesauraus. i've been
disenchanted with project stuff for quite some time now. lycia is the
only really original projekt project, if you will. lsd is nice, but....
speaking of which, how is it possible that marijuana is illegal while
people are carousing around in their cars totally tanked to the gills on
beer and pretzels, running cyclists and pedestrians over? while the legal
system in this country represents a good deal of our intuitive
legal/moral views, the beureaucracy is somethting else entirely.
dave again
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 03:45:48 -0400
i thought "chung king express" was fucking brilliant and hilarious. the
way the plot (if any) and mood changes completely mid-movie is
unprecedented. similarly bizarre is the acting and the motivations behind
the characters. i agree they try hard to be "quirky" or bizarre, but not
"cutesy". any director tries to convey some sort of feeling or
atmosphere. it's how intentional and transparent the attempt that
separates one from the other. i too was sick as hell of "california
dreaming" by the end of the movie, but it too was an element of hilarity.
i find hilarity in absurdity. i think some people are simply annoyed by
it. but if you liked "city of lost children" (fucking amazing) then it
couldn't have been because of it's realistic interpretation of venecian
childhood. either way, italian and chinese movies kick stateside movies
in the arse any day. btw, i'd like to start an anti-terentino movement.
his posturing is too fucking obvious. he merely panders to adolescent
violent/hip tendencies while trying to ironically reinterpret cliches.
get me the hell out of here!
sorry if this sounding a bit un4adlike.
how about this-was frazier chorus any damned good when on 4ad? the
singles i've heard blow disco goats. actually, i think i have the frazier
chorus 12" on 4ad. i think i bought it because of the artwork.
whatever
dave ([email protected])
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:13:56 -0400
on the hnia track listing i didn't see esp summer, is this not going to be
on the record? i don't really mind seeing i have the shaving the pavement
tape, but it was my understanding that it was from the "forthcoming album.
is it from the forthcoming ep? does anyone have a track listing for the
ep?
star vein
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"i am an asshole, i shit myself with rock and roll"
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:07:28 -0400
STEREOLAB! CORNERSHOP! MOJAVE THREE! etc, etc, etc
>
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THIS WAS A LETTER I WAS WRITING FOR DAN, BUT I THOUGHT SOME LISTIES MIGHT
WANT TO KNOW SOME DETROIT DISH.
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anyway, i talked to warren two days ago and he said that he probably
won't be playing at the detroit show. i don't know if this means that
he might be playing at chicago or whatever. so that question got me no
more info.i just got back from seeing tortoise. it was one of the best
shows i have seen all year. if you're a big warren defever fan than you
might want to check out his solo guitar performance on sunday, as in
tonight at 6:00 p.m. at 1515 broadway. he is the first solo guitarist,
than about eight more follow. davin, warren's roomate and member of
princess dragonmom plays right after warren, than some other guitarist
including warren's brother and some other local performers.
anyway, you going to the mojave three thing at repeat the beat? my friend
works there. they have the shaving the pavement promo there. they are
giving them a way with any purchase. i don't know if there are any left,
but the tape is real swell. it has a new hnia song on it called esp summer
with ian from pale saints. it's quite good and definitely sound like the
next progression from mouth by mouth. also warren and i talked about esp
summer. this june, perdition plastics the releasers of the old, but good
king of sweet album will be releasing a full length of esp summer. it will
include seven inch stuff and other stuff not released, and on the
easier-than-vinyl format, compact disc (for all the digital fans out
there). anyway, are you going to see bowery electric or
stereolab/cornershop/(the really cool-spaceed-out-local favs) FUXA or how
about eric's trip w/swirlies. i'll be at all of them and hopefully more,
like the m.eitzel show. anyway that is all the dish i have here on the
detroit scene.
ba bye
star vein
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i am a pharmicist, presciptions i will fill you....
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:22:49 -0400
On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, esp raincloud wrote:
> > wow, mark kozelek is in this? does he sing? or did he just write some
> > stuff? has he been involved with his name is alive before?
>
> i remember, quite some time ago, my friend telling me about an rhp
> show in ann arbor and mark had done some vocal work for warren...
> singing an hnia song from mouth by mouth with the music to another MBM
> tune {i think lip lyrics with drink, dress, and ink music..but i might
> be wrong on that}. i also remember my friend telling me of bridget &
> mark {when they were unrest} doing the same thing...
>
> godzuki should open for hnia on tour,
> k
>
i think either barry white or lionel ritchie should open it up for esp is
alive.
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:37:22 -0400
PLEASE, everyone who ever gets in about a two hundred mile radius to a
tortoise show, please go. they are so amazing live. i just got home from
seeing them here in detroit and i was blown away. they have two xylophones
two drum sets two basses, moogs, rolands, all kinds of ginchy stuff and
they all share... all six tortoises just rock it so good. if you like
music than you ow yourself a treat. i will have a review better organized
and better written on my web-zine in at least three days.
do not slow down with the tortoise, be the hare and get there.
(i'm sorry, that was so bad)
star vein
On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Monica Sather wrote:
> I am not sure if they are considered thislisty or not, but since there was
> some talk of them last week I thought that I would mention that they will
> be in Chicago on 15 May. The show is at the Metro. I can't remember if
> its doors or show at 9. Tickets are $12 through ticketmaster. What I nice
> way to start the summer.. . the last final exam of my undergrauate career
> is that afternoon!
>
> -monica
>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:38:39 +0000
Can Time Stereo be reached over the net? I'm in a html'ly mood, and I
wondered whether they'd be interested in me setting up a Time Stereo
web site...
If Time Stereo has an email address, and they take VISA (& stuff),
then I could even set up a Time Stereo Shopping Center type thingie.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
[email protected] * Lars Ingebrigtsen
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:26:34 +1000
I have a question regarding the "Lilliput" Book.
I have found a copy for sale but I don't know how much it's actually
worth. I want to know how much it's worth before I buy it. I heard $100 is
the norm.is that the current going rate?
Thanx in advance
Arthur Chan
later
Artc
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:59:03 -0400
>> Thought this was of interest to folks on the list.
>> BTW: If you get the chance to see Wong Kar Wai's
>> "Chungking Express," go for it (the Faye Wong mentioned
>> above is in it).
>
>Also in this movie is an interesting cover of The Cranberries'
"Dreams"...sung in
>Mandarin!
Yeah, I noticed that...makes it actually sound like a pretty good song - not
irritating like the original
Maybe Faye Wong was mentioned in the M+K sleeve notes because of her cover
of Bluebeard?
Larry
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:07:35 -0700
At 4:22 AM 4/26/96, einexile the meek wrote:
>I didn't know you thought I had such noble potential in me, Elvia.
>
>On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Elvia M. Tarango wrote:
>
>> Although I know for a fact that einexile the meek does not use his usally
>> self-throned style of writing on other lists, for some strange reason he
>> does take an absolute opinion on this list.
>
>What are you on *one* other list I post at? For four or five weeks maybe.
>Did you think I wasn't going to see this and respond to it, or are you
>used to being around people who don't mind having their character
>publicly questioned? The fact is that I post tamer reviews to
>[email protected] for the simple reason that in that realm I DON'T
>REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Perhaps it is beyond you that
>someone would choose his words carefully when he stands on shaky ground
>and speak with conviction when he is confident.
>
>I will grant that you are consistent; you offer unwanted advice to the
>inhabitants of that list and treat them as your humble pupils just as
>you do with subscribers here.
>
First of all it is not Elvia, but Fred. Second of all, I see lying is part
of your make up. I rarely post on the ambient list. I offer little advise,
but seek much of it in the area of music creation. I don't treat people
like they are my humble pupils, but what color are yours? Thirdly, I like
writing reviews o angst one and I too have a large collection of music,too,
although I don't have the connections that you seem to have....which is
Great. Fourthly, i think it is swell that you are trying to write reviews
on as many lists as possible. You seem to like it and you have the ability
to obtain a lot of CDs for review...GGGGreat! I encourage you to write,
write and write some more, but lets not be arrogant. I still don't
understand why you need people to think that you have taster's choice of
the genre....You have an opinion...NOT FACT.Period.
>Well, it seems at least one person on this list is a little disturbed by
>my unprecedented wealth of idle time and my enormous record collection...
I guess your idle time and enormus record collection reminds me of the
cucumber used in Spinal Tap. :) I suppose we all wank at some point in our
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:33:34 -0700
You know I have this real big problem. I procrastinate on buying CDs based
on the reasoning that they will be around forever. Stupid me. I could have
bought the entire set of Area back in the early 90's. In Berkeley, there
was always a batch of fresh, mint and juicy supply of the stuff. What did I
learn from the experience? Buy the damn CD, don't wait...duhhhhh.
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:33:37 CST
i got hnia's kos awhile back, and i ended up not liking it too much, so i
want to trade it for something else that i'll like. a list follows the next
paragraph.
i recently upgraded my copy of pale saints' mrs. dolphin from a copy with a
few surface scratches to a cd in somewhat better condidtion. i am offering
to trade my old copy of mrs. dolphin as well. it does have a few scratches,
but it's never skipped in the four different players i've played it in.
it's not in mint condition, but i have a feeling that won't matter to those
who just want the music.
so i'm offering:
1 his name is alive: king of sweet
1 (slightly worn) pale saints: mrs. dolphin
here's a list of stuff i'm looking for:
pale saints: children break flexi (hey, i had to try)
the boo radleys: ichabod and i
any pale saints/ian masters related rarities
well, that's the rarer stuf i'm looking for, but if you don't have any of
that stuff and are interested, we can perhaps work something out. I WILL
NOT SELL THE MRS DOLPHIN! i got my new one for pretty cheap from a fellow
listie and would feel bad if i turned around and sold it for several times
what i paid for it.
interested parties should reply to me ([email protected]) not the
list.
thanks for looking,
BiZ
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 20:20:51 +0200
Could someone post a short review on each [worthly] Time Stereo tape ?
I own HNIA _Live in Mexico_ (great), ESP Summer, New Grape..., but
are Time Piano, Pail Saint, Noise Camp, Beat Bandit worth ?
Assuming I prefer samples, sounds and pencil guitar to harsh noise...
Salutations de Paris.
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:04:15 +0000
> pale saints: children break flexi
Could someone describe this to us less-fortunate listies?
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 11:27:15 -0700
>
> Thought this was of interest to folks on the list.
> BTW: If you get the chance to see Wong Kar Wai's
> "Chungking Express," go for it (the Faye Wong mentioned
> above is in it). I loved the photography
> in it--overall, a very existential movie.
>>You know, this movie really made me ill. I read a bunch of reviews and
>>it sounded so good. But man this movie tries way too hard to be cute.
>>I think it had some good ideas but it drags on and on, and that damn song
>>"California Dreaming" gets played at least 6 times. To tell you the
>>truth, the best movie I have seen lately or ever is "The City of lost
>>children". Simply phenomenal. The soundtrack is great too.
I loved The City of Lost Children. I saw it twice, which is saying a
lot for me. I'm a huge David Lynch fan and have been eagerly awaiting his next
release; (Did anyone notice that the soundtrack for TCOLC was done by Angelo
Badalamenti, the guy who did the music for Twin Peaks and Fire Walk With Me?)
this film satisfied my appetite for the surreal and dreamlike. Beautiful
cinematography (the colors are amazing!) with plenty of images that I won't soon
forget. I also loved the clever little trick with the mouse, the cat and the
key as well as the chain of events that are set in motion when One, under the
influence of the flea drug, slaps the girl and sends her teardrop flying.
Definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.
I would like to see Chungking Express. Do any of the Seattle listies
know if it's playing anywhere around here?
Jon Drahn