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Subject: Stereolab in Seattle
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:57:11 GMT
From: Kurt Revis (krevis@UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Third Mind/In The Nursery
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 05:56:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Third Mind Catalog
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 21:05:14 -0700
From: Ed Klein (eklein@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Delerium
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:13:08 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: Re: Delerium
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:26:06 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: me, a reviewer? aww shucks...
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:22:02 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Third Mind Catalog
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 08:44:12 -0400
From: Brian McKay (vydra@WWNET.COM)
Subject: For those not going to lush
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:25:53 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delerium
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:41:50 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lwu@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Third Mind
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:28:00 EST
From: Rob Galgano (0005338863@MCIMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Aphex Twin
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:52:11 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:05:31 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: Rosewater Elizabeth+heavenside review
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:36:44 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: stp-va beach
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:32 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: "la petit morte"
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:14:27 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: sweet f.a.?
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:29:07 U
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: Help!
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:11:49 +0100 (BST)
From: Dedicated Records (dedicate@channel.co.uk)
Subject: lush in new york and boston
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:16:49 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: sweet f.a.?
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:04:32 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:13:22 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Confessions of a Lurker
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:39:00 PDT
From: Dermot Barry (dermot@KEYMODULES.PHILIPS.COM)
Subject: 8 page story / hong kong
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:42:47 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Lush
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:22:05 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:07:42 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: SF Show Monday Night
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:38:27 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse/Global Communication (fwd)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:41:16 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Looking for the following CDs...
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:29:48 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab in Fullerton, CA
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 18:04:41 -0700
From: Rocky Colavito (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: New Music Zine
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:05:24 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@INTERNET-IRELAND.IE)
Subject: Time Stereo Presents.../Velour 100 show
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:42:24 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: eyesore@evo updated
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 04:18:28 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Third Mind Catalog
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:18:00 CDT
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:57:11 GMT
From: Kurt Revis (krevis@UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab in Seattle


Heffalump sez:

>Okay, kids.  Stereolab at Western Washington, with Jessamine & Prolapse.
>Cellophane Square.  That's all the info I got.  Anyone in the Seattle area
>gonna come up for this?  What's the story on a Seattle show?

The same three are playing in Seattle on May 5th at Moe's. $9 or $10,
I think.

Supposedly The Sea And Cake and Tortoise will be at Moe's later in the
month, as well. I think this will be the month that I finally destroy my
eardrums once and for all... lotsa good shows in Seattle.


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 05:56:28 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Third Mind/In The Nursery


>go from there?  I don't particularly like to duplicate songs so i steer
clear >of "best of" albums but does the new ITN compilation have lots of
worthwhile >songs that would be otherwise hard to find?  Should i just buy
*Stormhorse* >instead?

'Stormhorse' is their best and try 'Koda'. I wonder how many people noticed
that a lot of the music/arrangements on 'Koda' is stolen from the soundtrack
to a 1965 black & white Italian movie called 'La Battaglia di Algeri' (The
Battle of Algiers), by director Gillo Pontecorvo. With this in mind the
liner notes on 'Koda' become rather funny!

Dolores Marguerite C.




+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 21:05:14 -0700
From: Ed Klein (eklein@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Third Mind Catalog


"Elvia M. Tarango"  writes:

>P.S. Right know I'm trying to get a catalog from Third Mind Records. I have
>a few things from them. If any of you know of some really great bands off
>this label....give me an e-mail.

I'm pretty sure this is the complete catalog:


Artist                    Title                                Format   Year

Area                      The Perfect Dream                    LP
Area                      Agate Lines                          LP/CD    1990
Attrition                 The Attrition of Reason              LP       1984
Attrition                 Shrinkwrap                           12"      1985
Attrition                 Smiling, at the Hypogonder Club      LP/CD    1985
Attrition                 The Voice of God                     12"      1985
Attrition                 In the Realm of the Hungry Ghosts    LP       1986
Beautiful Pea Green Boat  The Powerhouse                       7"
Beautiful Pea Green Boat  Obsessions                           LP       1987
Beautiful Pea Green Boat  Get Religion                         LP       1988
Beautiful Pea Green Boat  Maremma                              12"      1989
Beautiful Pea Green Boat  Every Night With You I Die A Little  12"      1990
Bushido                   The Sands of Nakajima                LP
Bushido                   Deliverance                          LP
Bushido                   Among The Ruins                      12"
Bushido                   Voices                               12"      1985
Controlled Bleeding       Penetration                          CD
Delerium                  Euphoric                             CDEP     1991
Eden                      Gateway to the Mysteries             CD       1990
Harry Fabvre              The Discreet Agent                   LP
Faction                   Bag                                  LP       1989
Faction                   Go!                                  12"      1989
Faction                   Dream on You                         12"      1990
Faction                   Heaven                               CD       1990
Front Line Assembly       Disorder                             EP       1988
Front Line Assembly       Digital Tension Dementia             12"/CDS  1989
Front Line Assembly       Live                                 LP       1989
Front Line Assembly       Gashed Senses and Crossfire          LP       1989
Front Line Assembly       Provision                            12"      1990
Front Line Assembly       Caustic Grip                         CD       1990
Front Line Assembly       Iceolate                             12"/CDS  1990
Front Line Assembly       Mindphaser                           CDS      1992
Front Line Assembly       The Blade                            CDS      1992
Front Line Assembly       Tactical Neural Implant              CD       1992
Front Line Assembly       Corrosion                            LP       1988
Front Line Assembly       Convergence                          CD       1991
Front Line Assembly       No Limit                             12"/CD   1989
Front Line Assembly       Virus                                12"/CDS  1992
Front Line Assembly       The Initial Command (reissue)        CD
Front Line Assembly       State Of Mind (reissue)              CD
God Said                  Out Of Time                          7"
God Said                  Off The Plot                         LP
Heavenly Bodies           Rains On Me                          12"
Heavenly Bodies           Celestial                            LP/CD
Intermix                  Dream On                             12"      1992
Intermix                  Intermix                             CD       1992
Intermix                  Phaze Two                            CD       1992
In the Nursery            Sesudient                            CDEP     1990
In the Nursery            L'Esprit                             LP/CD    1990
In the Nursery            Sense                                CD       1991
In the Nursery            Duality                              CD       1992
Intimate Obsessions       Assassin                             12"
Intimate Obsessions       Erebus to Hades                      EP       1985
Edward Ka-Spel            Tanith And the Lion Tree             CD
Konstruktivits            Black December                       LP
Konstruktivits            Psykno-Genetika                      LP
Metamorphosis             Great Babel Gives Birth              LP
The Moon Seven Times      The Moon Seven Times                 CD       1993
Nurse With Wound          Ostranenie 1913                      LP
Prayer Tower              Halo                                 CD       1993
Bill Pritchard            Pas De Plaisanterie                  7"
Bill Pritchard            Half A Million                       LP
Bill Pritchard            The Death Of Bill Posters            CD
Bill Pritchard            Bill Pritchard                       LP
Sect                      Telekinetic                          CD       1994
Solar Enemy               Techno Divinity                      CD       1990
Solar Enemy               Dirty vs. Universe                   CD       1991
Will                      Pearl Of Great Price                 CD       1991
Will                      Word * Flesh * Stone                 CDEP     1992

Various                   Could You Walk On The Waters         LP
Various                   For Your Ears Only                   LP       1987
Various                   Four from the Madding Crowd          LP       1986
Various                   Future Tense                         LP       1986
Various                   Life at the Top                      LP       1984
Various                   Mindfield                            CD       1992
Various                   Pieces Of Mind                       CD       1991
Various                   The Third Mind                       CD       1990
Various                   Une Saison En Enfer                  CD       1988


--
Ed Klein
Music Database:  http://kzsu.stanford.edu/eklein/


Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:13:08 -0700
From: Jon Drahn (pdrahn@PDRAHN.SEANET.COM)
Subject: Delerium


>Delerium                  Euphoric                             CDEP     1991

Hi.  I'm pretty much just a lurker but I have come out of my hole to ask if
anyone has heard this band and if they could describe them for me.  For some
reason, I have the impression that they sound similar to the Cranes?  I'd
appreciate any info on this.

Also, can someone tell me how I can get the digest version of this list so my
uncle doesn't kill me for clogging his mailbox?

Thanks.

dare not start another "v23-ugh" thread, I'll admit that I go to my cds for
inspiration as much as to my Print and CA annuals.  Come on, admit it, I know
there are more of you out there... %)


Saving for a MAC,
Jon Drahn
pdrahn@pdrahn.seanet.com


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:26:06 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delerium

              1996 23:13:08 -0700

>   >Delerium                  Euphoric
>   CDEP     1991
>
>   Hi.  I'm pretty much just a lurker but I have come out
>   of my hole to ask if anyone has heard this band and if
>   they could describe them for me.  For some reason, I
>   have the impression that they sound similar to the
>   Cranes?  I'd appreciate any info on this.

No, actually that impression is way off the mark.  *Delerium* is the "ambient"
side project of the Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber who are also responsible for
*Front Line Assembly* (Industrial) and *Intermix* (techno).  Their albums range
from sparse ambient soundscapes without any vocals to  somewhat industrial
(Euphoric is like this if i remember correctly) to being techno version of the
band enigma (Flowers become screens, with Rose Chronicles vocalist).

I'd say they have a less dynamic more ambient or techno take on the SPK (Zahmia
Lehmani)/ Controlled Bleeding (Songs from the Ashes/Golgotha) kind of sound, if
that helps at all.

-cz


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:22:02 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: me, a reviewer? aww shucks...


I didn't know you thought I had such noble potential in me, Elvia.

On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Elvia M. Tarango wrote:

> Although I know for a fact that einexile the meek does not  use his usally
> self-throned style of writing on other lists, for some strange reason he
> does take an absolute opinion on this list.

What are you on *one* other list I post at? For four or five weeks maybe.
Did you think I wasn't going to see this and respond to it, or are you
used to being around people who don't mind having their character
publicly questioned? The fact is that I post tamer reviews to
ambient@hyperreal.com for the simple reason that in that realm I DON'T
REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Perhaps it is beyond you that
someone would choose his words carefully when he stands on shaky ground
and speak with conviction when he is confident.

I will grant that you are consistent; you offer unwanted advice to the
inhabitants of that list and treat them as your humble pupils just as
you do with subscribers here.


On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:

> Now I have to dig up that old bag of sticky Menth-o-Lyptus lozenges to
> soothe my throat.

Here, have one on me.

> Take in contrast Andrew Norman's as-always erudite and interesting
> response to e's review. He came to different conclusions about the music,
> and even pointed out that e might listen to Orbital's previous EP again
> and might come to different conclusions, but all in a perfectly polite
> and productive way. Rock on, Andrew!

Fuckin A. In fact, it may interest some that not only did he make some
good points, but he may well have WON THE ARGUMENT--as I am giving this
Orbital stuff another chance, perhaps with my ears a little more open.
Imagine that! Someone may have actually changed someone else's mind!

> I still don't understand why it's e's reviews that always stir up this
> kind of misplaced anger in people.

Well, it seems at least one person on this list is a little disturbed by
my unprecedented wealth of idle time and my enormous record collection...

In answer to what you've said about your own reviews, all I can say is
if you aren't giving your 100% it doesn't show. A lot of people quote
that old bit about brevity being the soul of wit, and they flatter
themselves to presume it applies to their own brevity--but you point out
the virtues of a short and concise style better than Elvia ever could: by
demonstrating them. Anyway, thank you for your kind words and to everyone
who's written me privately about this stuff.

Me, I'm going to go look for my copy of Snivilisation now.


  e


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 08:44:12 -0400
From: Brian McKay (vydra@WWNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Third Mind Catalog


On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Ed Klein wrote:

> "Elvia M. Tarango"  writes:>
> >P.S. Right know I'm trying to get a catalog from Third Mind Records. I have
> >a few things from them. If any of you know of some really great bands off
> >this label....give me an e-mail.
>
> I'm pretty sure this is the complete catalog:
>
>
> Artist                    Title                                Format   Year

> Area                      Agate Lines                          LP/CD    1990

I'd *really* like to get a hold of this thing.  Anyone have it and want
to trade it; I have a good collection of 4AD compilations and some other
stuff.  If so, please contact me via private email: vydra@wwnet.com

-Brian
vydra@wwnet.com


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:25:53 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: For those not going to lush


For all those who can't go to lush (not being able to chew through you left
foot is no excuse) yo la tengo is playing for 4-5 bucks at nyu!

alex
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:41:50 EST
From: Lawren Wu (lwu@WI.MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Delerium


-cz wrote:

>>   >Delerium                  Euphoric
>>   I'd appreciate any info on this.
>
>No, actually that impression is way off the mark.  *Delerium* is the
"ambient"
>side project of the Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber who are also responsible for
>*Front Line Assembly* (Industrial) and *Intermix* (techno).  Their albums
range
>from sparse ambient soundscapes without any vocals to  somewhat industrial
>(Euphoric is like this if i remember correctly) to being techno version of
the
>band enigma (Flowers become screens, with Rose Chronicles vocalist).
>
>I'd say they have a less dynamic more ambient or techno take on the SPK
(Zahmia
>Lehmani)/ Controlled Bleeding (Songs from the Ashes/Golgotha) kind of
sound, if
>that helps at all.


Yes, Delerium are the ambient side project of Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber.
There are many Delerium albums out there, most on the German label Dossier.
 The two most un-representative albums are Euphoric, which is really an EP
released on Third Mind, and Future Primitives, their most recent release.

Most albums are ambient soundscapes with a blip here and a bleep there --
similar to SPK Zahmia Lehmani, as cz mentioned.  I find them interesting
for a while, but it usually starts sounding the same about halfway through
the album.

Euphoric is not a bad intro to Delerium.  The first two songs are pretty
industro/techno.  The last two are closer to most of Delerium.  If you like
the first two songs and anything done by Enigma, buy Future Primitives.  If
you like the last two, try to find some of the earlier albums such as
Spheres or Stone Tower.  My fav is Syrophenikan, which has a bigger
emphasis on percussion and "tribal beats".

Hope this helps.

Lawren
lwu@wi.mit.edu


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:28:00 EST
From: Rob Galgano (0005338863@MCIMAIL.COM)
Subject: Re: Third Mind


>P.S. Right know I'm trying to get a catalog from Third Mind Records. I have
>a few things from them. If any of you know of some really great bands off
>this label....give me an e-mail.

When I interviewed m7X a couple of years ago, I got the impression that the
label had been bought by Roadrunner and later closed down. That's why m7x are on
what is basically a metal label.

rob

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:52:11 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: The Aphex Twin

              17, 96 10:05:36 am

 Jens Alfke  wrote on Wed, 17 Apr 1996
 (Subject: Re: The Aphex Twin)
 > Pick up Seefeel's "Polyfusia" first for a good introduction --
 > their early sound we nailed down as being based on a mixture of My
 > Bloody Valentine, the Orb and Eno.

There's a new Orb Peel sessions album out now - the first PS album was
excellent (early versions of "Ever Growing Pulsating Brain" and a couple
of other "Ultraworld" tracks), but this one smells a bit funny.  There's
a nice "OOBE", followed by the Stooges' "No Fun" (if you ever wondered
what a pair of stoned hippies covering Iggy would sound like, here it
is), and two tracks from "Orbus Terrarum" which are as formless and dull
as the album versions.  I *never* want to hear that Stooges cover ever
again - it sounds like Steve Hillage doing a poor Johnny Rotten
impersonation.  There ought to be a law against anyone trying to cover
anything from the first two Stooges albums (with the possible exception
of "We Will Fall") - the originals are just perfect.


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 26/04/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Cocteau Twins - Otherness

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:05:31 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush


hey Alex;

when is that gig?  and which NYU concert hall???  c'mon, spill the beans,
        dude!  B-)

JHR

On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Alex Wolfson wrote:

> For all those who can't go to lush (not being able to chew through you left
> foot is no excuse) yo la tengo is playing for 4-5 bucks at nyu!
>
> alex
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>


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:36:44 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rosewater Elizabeth+heavenside review


this tampa bay band's newest album "la petit morte" is stunning. it is a
complete work of art, as opposed to an album composed of ten or so songs.
from beginning to end, the music is seamless and lush. the female vocals
are really quite androgynous at times. at other times (when hitting the
high notes) the power of melissa's vocals fling you into bouts of
ecstasy. that this work will endure is indicated in that it takes a
couple of listens to fully appreciate the complexity-in-subtlety. this is
a mark of truly great albums. there aren't any obvious immediate
influences or comparisons, though the band own up to listening to their
fair share of cocteau twins records.
in a word: sublime
it's on 24 hour service station, whose address i dont have on me at the
moment. will post it later.


 i found this promo copy of a band called heavenside in some record store
for $4. i took a chance and was well rewarded. this is a most
giddines-inducing, accessible album. it's on primitech in california i
think. female vocals (of course) soar to great heights. the
instrumentation is nothing unusual, but is played so well and
dynamically. the songs are the kind that you can't get out of your head
until you listen to something else. very ethereal at times. again, there
are no immediate influences of note.
wow.

dave
bored by the bickering
desarg@mail.wm.edu

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:32 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: stp-va beach


don't pass judgement on scheer until you've seen them live! it's clear
again what characteristics influence ivo's record releasing. scheer are
really quite amazing live. perhaps all the furor over scheer stems from
context. if you expect old-4ad, then they are way different and tend to
disappoint. if you don't have any expectations, then they are a
refreshing new sound: electric intensive rock, with unusual female
vocals. they definitely have a good synergy on stage, stemming perhaps
from the singer's urge to bop around. i believe that almost everyone from
every band was drunk last night.
mojave 3 were totally impressive. their sound was way fuller than on the
album and they actually "rocked out" a bit. the crowd was really into
them as opposed to what i've been reading from most of other listies
posts.
everyone was anxious to hear lush, but i dont' think they were too
anxious to play. all except the completely smashed miki. she too was
bopping around the stage, swilling corona between songs. they played a
an equal amount from each album.  songs i remember are:sweetness and
light, light from a dark star, hypocrite, single girl, ladykillers,
deluxe!, and an early single. they also played a nice 3song encore.
there was talk of liquorice playing, but i didn't see them. maybe they
played before scheer.
for those of you who were asking, the merchandise is as such: stp shirt
with shoe design in purple, stp with green cloud on white, green and red
lush shirts, maroon and something mojave 3 shirts, white scheer album
cover shirt (lovely, wear it to a hospital) all for $20 and a couple of
hats for $15.
i picked up some extra copies of the stp tape that i'd like to send to
those of you who can't see the show. all i ask is $1.50 for postage. i'll
take the first three responses to: desarg@mail.wm.edu
bye now
dave


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:14:27 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: "la petit morte"


captain dave wrote:

> this tampa bay band's newest album "la petit morte" is stunning. it is a
> complete work of art, as opposed to an album composed of ten or so songs.

        Tres cool name for an album.  To those who don't know "la petit morte"
is "the little death" - a French term for a sexual orgasm.

--
David McCallum                                                mccallum@efn.org
                  http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
                 a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:29:07 U
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: sweet f.a.?


Mail*Link(r) SMTP               sweet f.a.?

What is a "sweet f.a."?  I wondered about it when suede sang about it,
and it's now the title of the new love and rockets album.

wondering what the blob on the StP shirt is.

thanks
selwyn

>>>>

AS fae as i know, sweet FA stands for sweet fuck all which is a british
expression. I am sure any of our friends from across the pond will be better
at explaining this.

-nb-

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:25:35 -0700
From: Chris Lundeen (lundeen@CHA-CHA.TIKI-LOUNGE.COM)
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse/Global Communication (fwd)


Hello, I thought this might be of some interest to those of you who have
been searching as long as I have.  I`ll post again when I know more.

                        - Chris


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:11:49 +0100 (BST)
From: Dedicated Records (dedicate@channel.co.uk)
Subject: Re: Help!


The CD which will be back in print is the "Pentamerous Metamorphosis" by
Global. "Blood Music" is now deleted. We are however putting together a
Chapterhouse double CD with a-sides, b-sides, best album tracks, hard to get
stuff, tracks not included on the first album, and demos for "Blood Music"
and the third album which will now never be released.

Niall (Marketing)

At 10:37 25/04/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Help!  Someone from Dedicated just sent me a message, which i
>accidentally deleted!  It said something like "The CD I have been
>looking for will be back in print soon."  Anyway, I am looking for TWO
>out of print CDs on Dedicated, Chapterhouse`s Bloodmusic (DED CD 011)
>and Global Communication`s Pentamerous Metamorphis (DED CD 011S).  The
>message did not state which CD was being re-pressed, If my vote counts,
>I think there would be great demand for both.
>
>                               Thank you for your time,
>
>                               - Chris Lundeen
>                                  lundeen@tiki-lounge.com
>
>


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:16:49 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: lush in new york and boston


YAY-O my lush week is about to start!

just to let all the new york listies know, lush is doing an autograph
signing at the all new VIrgin Megastore at times square- i think on May 1
at 8 pm.  the voice says Monday, May 1 so i'm guessing it's really May 1,
but should read Wednesday.

who's goin' to the boston/new york shows?  shall we all meet up?

lorelei

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:04:32 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: sweet f.a.?


<<<<

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:13:22 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush


the yo la tengo gig is on may 2nd at 8 pm, at the Loeb Student Center-
the Eisner & Lubin Auditorium.  the magnetic fields are opening...
too bad i can't go...

lorelei


>
> when is that gig?  and which NYU concert hall???  c'mon, spill the beans,
>         dude!  B-)
>
> JHR
>
> On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Alex Wolfson wrote:
>
> > For all those who can't go to lush (not being able to chew through you left
> > foot is no excuse) yo la tengo is playing for 4-5 bucks at nyu!
> >
> > alex
> > ****************************************************************************
**
> > * Columbia Institute for Tele-Information * 809 Uris Hall * New York NY 1002
 *
> > ****************************************************************************
**
> > * ph 212 854 4222 * fx 212 932 7816 * wb www.ctr.columbia.edu/citi/index.htm
 *
> > ****************************************************************************
**
> >
>

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:39:00 PDT
From: Dermot Barry (dermot@KEYMODULES.PHILIPS.COM)
Subject: Confessions of a Lurker


Prepare to delurk,

     Well after years of quietly reading the many discussions on this
list, some brilliant & insightful, some humourous, some informative & some
just plain juvenile, I've decided to come out of the closet, so to speak.
I started reading 4AD-L some 8 years ago when I lived in The Netherlands.
I've since moved to Ireland and from there to the US and each time I've felt
it worth my while to re-subscribe to the List. My first listening experience
was Cocteau Twins "Treasure" and I was so impressed I began to delve further
into the music of this, to me at least, unknown label.

     I am indebted to many people on this list for their recommendations,
including Bark Psychosis and Autechre among others. In fact just recently I
read about The Cardigans and when I came across the CD "Life" in an import
bin a few days later I picked it up. What a find, thanks to whoever posted
that review. Concerning e's reviews. I say keep up the good work. I don't
always agree with, hell I don't always agree with myself, but I often find
them informative.

     Anyway the real reson I posted was because of the 4AD activity here
in the Bay Area during the last week. I went to the StP show at The Fillmore
on the 15th. Scheer were good, if not having an inspiring stage presence,
but I suppose they're still young. I enjoyed Mojave 3 but heard plenty of
"boring" comments from people near me. The venue was not suited to them, I'd
like to see them at the Great American Music Hall. Lush gave a good show and
I have to agree with the comment someone made that despite the difference in
style in the old and new material it felt right that the same band was
playing
it. As an aside I must say I felt quite old that night, the majority of the
audience seemed to be 17 year old schoolgirls (or were they just the ones I
noticed ?). Had they heard of Lush before Lovelife ? Who cares, everyone has
to start somewhere.

     Last night I saw The Amps at Slims. The show was opened by Imperial
Teen, a band I've never heard of. Two guys, two gals. They were ok although
the sound was a bit muddled. The Amps came on about 10:15 and played for
about an hour. Kim's voice was a bit shot, she blamed it on LA (I knew my
hatred of that city would one day be justified). They played most of the
Pacer stuff, some stuff I didn't recognise (could be new),"Fortunately Gone"
,a "Guided by Voices" cover and did one encore where they invited a friend
of theirs in the audience Karen ? on stage to do backing vocals. Kim said
that her sister, I presume Kelley, had obliged at the LA show but was gone
home. All in all a good show. There appeared to be an excellent rapport
between all band members and they looked like they enjoyed the show. One
tiny
negative point was one asshole in the crowd who insisted on moshing to most
everyones disapproval. He was so out of it I suspect substance abuse or else
BSE. Anyway he was removed from the place within a few minutes of the Amps
starting.

     So I got to see two good shows. I saw Gavin Friday (ex Virgin Prune)
a few weeks ago at the Great American Music Hall. He was touring to promote
his latest CD, "Shag Tobacco". I have only one word to describe him, Genius.
It was the best show I've seen in a long time. He has a magnificent stage
presence and I came away feeling like I'd been entertained. Maybe its the
age factor again, when I was young I entertained myself, now I'm old (32) I
expect others to entertain me. Gavin suggested he may be out this way again
in September and if so I'd recommend you get along to see him if he's in
your
vicinity. Btw "Shag Tobacco" is also a must (IMHO).

     Couple of other comments :

Scott, Mari, Brian said (paraphrased)

"Irish can't dance"

     Well I'm a born and bred Irishman and I can't dance so I guess he
must be correct. Depends on what you understand by the term dance though. I
bet he and Twyla Tharp would have extremely differing definitions (and both
would be right)

Jens, thanks for the KFJC recommendation. I've been living in the Valley for
over a year and become sick of Live 105, KOME, etc. KFJC is a breath of
fresh
air, can you say Eclectic.

Enough already, I'm outa here

Dermot

dermot@keymodules.philips.com   or     dermot@ix.netcom.com

I have a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:42:47 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: 8 page story / hong kong


Despite my intentions to round up every list member in
Los Angeles and take them to see 8 Page Story last night,
I couldn't make it because of a persistent cold that's
been bugging me for 2 weeks. Did anyone else make it?

Anyone here been to Hong Kong before? I'm going to be there
in mid-June for a few days for a scientific conference
(in Shanghai actually, but I'm taking a few extra days off
to explore HK). Anyone have any travel tips or know of
some cool places to go? How are CD prices there?
Email ME, not the list.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:22:05 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Lush


In this month's (May) Record Collector there is an extensive article on, and a
full discography of Lush (listing all appearance on compilations, promos etc.).
Worth a purchase. Also a considerably briefer discog. of the mighty Pop Group.
I'm away for the weekend, but if there is an interest out there, I'm willing to
post it to the list (such a good heart).

- Dez

PS I won GBP100 of CDs in the annual RC competition. Yippee!

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:07:42 -0400
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: For those not going to lush


ah, now that sucks!  though StP is only 12 blocks from NYU, i don't
        think it is worth to even consider trying to see both.  :)
        well, maybe if scheer is really bad, or if Lush is not playing
        (according to some people in this list, Lush is not really in
        putting out a good show), i go see Yo.
hey, whatever happened to that other dude who also used to call himself
        Lorelei, then he changed it to Ivo?  is he still working for 4AD?
        is he still in the list?  i thought his office stories were amusing.

JHR


On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, lorelei tremolor wrote:

> the yo la tengo gig is on may 2nd at 8 pm, at the Loeb Student Center-
> the Eisner & Lubin Auditorium.  the magnetic fields are opening...
> too bad i can't go...
>
> lorelei
>
>
> >
> > when is that gig?  and which NYU concert hall???  c'mon, spill the beans,
> >         dude!  B-)
> >
> > JHR
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Alex Wolfson wrote:
> >
> > > For all those who can't go to lush (not being able to chew through you lef

> > > foot is no excuse) yo la tengo is playing for 4-5 bucks at nyu!
> > >
> > > alex
> > > **************************************************************************
****
> > > * Columbia Institute for Tele-Information * 809 Uris Hall * New York NY 10
27 *
> > > **************************************************************************
****
> > > * ph 212 854 4222 * fx 212 932 7816 * wb www.ctr.columbia.edu/citi/index.h
ml *
> > > **************************************************************************
****
> > >
> >
>


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:38:27 -0700
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: SF Show Monday Night


Hi...

I thought I'd post (once again - and obviously for those in the Bay Area) to
say that my band, Dart, is playing at the Bottom of the Hill in San
Francisco on Monday, April 29th.

We're opening the show for Versus and Varnaline, who you may or may not
know, is from Portland via New York, have a great album out on Zero Hour,
and, I'm told, are absolutely amazing live.

So...thanks for your time and I hope to see some of you on Monday!

Rick


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:41:16 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse/Global Communication (fwd)


On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Chris Lundeen wrote:

> From: Dedicated Records 

> and the third album which will now never be released.

WHAT THE FUCK!?? Oh for crying out loud. I don't believe this. What in
the name of all that is evil has happened to Chapterhouse??


  e :(

sweet f.a. is great by the way

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:29:48 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Looking for the following CDs...


Artist                    Title                                Format   Year

Area                      Agate Lines                          CD       1990
Attrition                 Smiling, at the Hypogonder Club      CD       1985
Attrition                 The Voice of God                     12"      1985
Bushido                   Among The Ruins                      12"
Bushido                   Voices                               12"      1985
Delerium                  Euphoric                             CDEP     1991
Eden                      Gateway to the Mysteries             CD       1990
Faction                   Go!                                  12"      1989
Faction                   Dream on You                         12"      1990
Faction                   Heaven                               CD       1990
In the Nursery            L'Esprit                             LP/CD    1990
In the Nursery            Sense                                CD       1991
Intimate Obsessions       Erebus to Hades                      CDEP       1985
Bill Pritchard            The Death Of Bill Posters             CD
Various                   Mindfield                            CD       1992
Various                   Pieces Of Mind                       CD       1991
Various                   The Third Mind                       CD       1990
Various                   Une Saison En Enfer                  CD       1988

Give me a reasonable price and will do business... I am well known on the
American Music Club list aka fireflies.

==================================================
"Keep Peace With Your Soul. Strive to be Happy. It's Not Easy Fighting the
20th Century."
              In The Nursery
                                     ~|~
                                    /---\
                                   | 0^0 |
                                     <">
                                    \/*\/
                                   Pagan Man
                                   _/_/_/_/
                                  _/   _/
                                 _/_/_/
                                _/
                               _/
           /\_/\
           (o o)
      --ooO-(o)-Ooo--  Pagan Man's sidekick gOD.

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 18:04:41 -0700
From: Rocky Colavito (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Stereolab in Fullerton, CA


Last night was stereolab's first show of their tour. I really have not been
impressed with Empereo Tomato Ketchup. It really stalls and stops in
points. It rreally never flows together. In any case, the stuff from the
new record did not sound so hot live either. They did play some older
songs, "Ping Pong", "French Disko". By far the highlight was the 15
minute or so encore version of "Super Electric." Everyone must stay until
they finish that song. it is simply amazing. It does go on forever and
you think they are going to end a couple of times but stay for the whole
thing, it is just great. Prolapse were the opening act. They are really
prety good. worth watching. Their male singer may drive you nuts with his
pomposity, though.

Brett


Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:05:24 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@INTERNET-IRELAND.IE)
Subject: New Music Zine


>XL Music Magazine....the new Irish Alternative Music Mag, is now on the web at
>
>Not *all* of the printed issue is on the web yet, but what it does include
>so far:
>
>
>and the oddest classifeds and competition section you're likely to come
>across anywhere!
>
>daev
>
>------------------------------------------------
>Dave Walsh  daev@internet-ireland.ie (01)4758788
>Internet Ireland http://www.internet-ireland.ie
>'Is it about a bicycle?'-Sgt.Pluck, 'The Third
>Policman', by Flann O'Brien
>------------------------------------------------



      Hugh O'Brien            hugh@indigo.ie
      "Music has to be sound, otherwise you are lost.Sound
      goes into the inner part of the human soul"-Iannis Xenakis


Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:42:24 -0400
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Time Stereo Presents.../Velour 100 show


While making my weekly rounds amongst Ann Arbor yesterday, I saw a few ads
posted for two upcoming shows I thought some listies might be interested in:

The first~~~

Time Stereo Presents

"20th Century Guitar"
april28  1515 Broadway

time = 6 : 0 0 pm

Warren Defever b.1969 Livonia, MI
Davin Brainard b. 1969 Farmington Hills, MI
Mr and Mrs Velocity Hopkins b.1969 Midland, MI
                                           b. 1969 Albuquerque, NM
Harold Richardson b. 1967 Niskayuna, NY
Matt Rufino b.1965 Farmington Hills, MI
Dara Albro b.1969 Brooklyn, NY
John Defever b.1966 Fort Bend, IN
Dion Fischer b.1972 Mt. Clemens, MI
Geoff Walker b. 1972 Ann Arbor, MI
Matthew Smith b. 1964 Ann Arbor, MI


that's all the flyer sez,... me guesses it's some sort of gee-tar rawk fest.
 I haven't spoken to Davin lately so I'm not sure what's up.  Some of you may
recognize  Dara's name...  she's the one who appeared w/HNIA on the "All
Virgo's..." comp. and a co-member of the now defunct Dirteaters with Warren.
 She just recently moved back to Ann Arbor from NY,  and I believe this is
her first musical appearance in the Detroit-metro area...her work as New
Grape is incredible.  Dion Fischer may also ring a bell to some of you....
he's one of the frontmen for the Ohms (amazin' spacie noise schtuff) and also
a member of Godzuki (who just released their first CD "Trail of the Lonesome
Pine").

Also as mentioned, Velour 100 is having a show...on the same day as the Time
Stereo show!!!  egads....which to go to???...   life's little dilemma's~~~

the flyer's line-up shows:

velour100
joe christmas
fahrenheit 451

@the sugar shack
612 pearl 313.483.7607
sunday, april 28, 8:00pm
$3

so listies, which would you attend??

~~blubelknol@aol.com


Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 04:18:28 +0000
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: eyesore@evo updated


eyesore -- the red 4AD database -- has now been updated at evo as
well.   is where it's at.  Now
with more links than you'll ever need.

Note to people who maintain eyesore mirrors:  The latest version of
the base can be found in one convenient package as
it at your convenience.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:18:00 CDT
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Third Mind Catalog


Did someone say Area?

>On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Ed Klein wrote:
>
>> "Elvia M. Tarango"  writes:>
>> >P.S. Right know I'm trying to get a catalog from Third Mind Records. I have
>> >a few things from them. If any of you know of some really great bands off
>> >this label....give me an e-mail.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure this is the complete catalog:
>>
>>
>> Artist                    Title                                Format   Year
>
>> Area                      Agate Lines                          LP/CD    1990
>
>I'd *really* like to get a hold of this thing.  Anyone have it and want
>to trade it; I have a good collection of 4AD compilations and some other
>stuff.  If so, please contact me via private email: vydra@wwnet.com
>
>-Brian
>vydra@wwnet.com
>

What is 'Agate Lines'?  I have 'Fragments of the Morning' and it was also
released in 1990 but on C'est La Mort Records.  'Fragments' is heavenly,
especially "Puzzle Boy".  I don't think they could have made a more perfect
song. Lynn Canfield's voice is surpassed by few in my opinion.  I prefer
Area to The Moon Seven Times though. With Area *the less is more* principle
is evident--it's pure and simplistic beauty.  I'll stop gushing now, but if
'Agate Lines' is similar to 'Fragments' then I'd probably like to get a hold
of it as well.

Lysa