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Subject: Mark Eitzel
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:23:15 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Weekly CD update..
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 01:30:46 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Cover Art
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:23:48 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Cows, Childcatchers, Amps
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:45:25 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:57:38 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Looking for FAQ
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:23:44 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: 8 Page Story
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:07:51 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: another Thurtene story
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:19:11 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:18:41 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 12:19:11 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Cows, Childcatchers, Amps
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:55:35 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 13:49:29 -0700
From: "um.......call me the walrus" (rod@LOOP.COM)
Subject: shareware offer
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:08:21 +-100
From: Terry (ferrari@ENTERPRISE.NET)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:51:39 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:11:39 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:58:59 -0600
From: Xantha Stringfellow (xantha@BURGOYNE.COM)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:05:20 -0500
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: new LUSH promo CD
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:13:32 -0500
From: Sung Shim (foss@WWA.COM)
Subject: Re: shareware offer
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:53:40 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: shareware offer
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:37:23 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: v23 - ug
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:30:29 -0700
From: Daniel McLellan (scot@WELL.COM)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:38:38 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: New Stereolab reviews?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:36:25 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Dealing with spammers [Re: shareware offer]
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:34:16 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:13:52 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: lush notes
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:03:21 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:33:09 -0400
From: Athol (ktp52952@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: Re: Projekt Festival
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:30:53 -0700
From: Ed Klein (eklein@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: red hot + ... mbv and mark eitzel???
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:06 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: DCD Half World Tour
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 01:56:55 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)

Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:23:15 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Mark Eitzel



 Mark Eitzel was not so hot. he is more or
>less a jerk and not at all ashamed to display it.

The SF and Sacramento shows were absolutely fantastic! In reality, Mark
isn't a jerk. I heard about the show and it seemed more like he was
frustrated with himself but I don't think that makes him a "jerk". What are
you basing your conclusion on? That he became angry when his guitar wasn't
tuned correctly? That after all that, he broke a string and became more
irate?  I don't know of not one performer who hasn't had a bad day/show but
I certainly would reserve my judgement unless, of course, he spat on you
and/or barfed and then left never to return ...

 I think the best part
>of his band is his horn player.

I'd have to disagree here. If you'd been at the other shows you'd say the
real talent, aside from Mark E., is former AMC member Bruce Kaphan who
plays the steel pedal.



El

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 01:30:46 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Weekly CD update..


Belly                               Feed the Tree CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Belly                               Moon CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Belly                               Now They'll Sleep CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Breeders                            Cannonball CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Breeders                            Divine Hammer CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Breeders                            Safari CD5
         $5 ppd        21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

Laika & The Cosmosnauts  CD         Zero Gravity
         $6            15-Apr-1996 ssowder@copper.ucs.indiana.edu

My Bloody Valentine                 Isn't Anything
         $7.50 ppd     21-Apr-1996 krieg@execpc.com

 Division
         $7 +s/h       19-Apr-1996 emorris@pacifier.com

XYMOX                               METAMORPHOSIS
         $6.00 PPD     16-Apr-1996 dschweitzer@eagle.wesleyan.edu


Hmmm, I never see any FAX Cds on the used CD Monday updates...  Guess people
just like to hold on to them...

Remember kids, this is just a PSA so if you want the CDs, reply to the email
addresses listed under them; not to me.


marvyn (who lives in houston but won't be at the bowery electric show tonight)


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:23:48 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Cover Art


I don't know if this has been discussed but any guesses what or who is
depicted on one of the fold-out panels of Milk and Kisses. To me it looks
like a short cropped person reclining - could it be Liz?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Scheer - have got a resounding thumbs down from most people. They are
crap I must admit.

My favourite thing at the moment is Garbage. A lot of the press in the UK
keep calling them goths for some reason. I find them slightly reminiscent
of Curve.

Can anyone help me regarding a band called The Umberella. I have got one
twelve inch called Make Hell (for the Beautiful People), backed with
William Brel and The Theme from the Persuaders. To me it is quite 80s
gothy. Did they ever release an album and what are they doing now.
An info?

'H'y
Snapper - http://asegweb.ohm.york.ac.uk/tsb/music.html


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:45:25 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Cows, Childcatchers, Amps


 Brett Boyd  wrote on Fri, 19 Apr 1996
 (Subject: Cow Heart Fools)
 > The art work for "In Ribbons," " to the best of my recollection, is
 > a photograph of the upper-half of a desicated cow heart.  Look for
 > the arteries going off the top of the page...and then you can
 > visualize it.
 >
 > This "half of a cow" nonesense has to be disspelled--how can you
 > photograph half a cow cut apart and see anything as intelligible as
 > a melted-down candle?

The "half a cow" comment was an aside by me, referring to Damien "Dave
Stewart's my best mate" Hirst, the enfant terrible of British Art.  His
works include a cow and calf bisected and pickled in formaldehyde, and a
shark pickled in formaldehyde.

 >
 > Interestingly enough, not only has this art inspired so much talk,
 > but this art creates beauty by manipulating forms within the
 > subject (cow heart) which people find repugnant, morbid or "gross."
 > I have to chuckle to myself that people are "grossed-out" about
 > something they probably had to be informed about--independent of
 > their own initial impressions.  I think that the heart of the
 > matter is the gross anatomy of a lot of childish ignorance and the
 > fear of being mortal.
 >
 > So you "ugh-ers" make me squeamish!
 >

I grew up in a household where the British Medical Journal was left
lying around, so I don't really have a problem with pictures of "gross"
things, but I think there's a difference between the Pale Saints cover
(which is recognisable as some sort of meat, even if we can't decide
what), and a straightforward picture of a lot of embryos - one is
intriguing, the other is just a feeble attempt to be controversial and
shocking (see also pickled cows, above).

 "Scott, Mari & Brian"  wrote on Fri, 19 Apr 1996
 (Subject: Even more childcatcher and Armpits!)
 >
 > If anyone is interested Lush took Childcatcher from a Blonde song
 > called "Sunday Girl".  They sound exactly the same.  How do I know
 > this? Miki admited to it on the "Black Session" boot.  Another
 > interesting fact from Brian.
 >

The two songs do *not* sound exactly the same - they may be related, but
there's a big difference ("Childcatcher" doesn't have the catchy chorus,
and the tunes of the verses are quite different, too).

 Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote on Fri, 19 Apr 1996
 (Subject: Has anydone done an AMPS review?)
 > There was hell of a lot of talk on the Lovelife LP - various
 > reviews (good and bad), which I found to be interesting / useful.
 > I can't seem to recall too much on the Tipp City LP.  I may have
 > been sleeping or something, but I do know it went nowhere near into
 > the depth of most recent releases.  I have seen the LP a few times
 > (not on sale I might add) and have been tempted.  However, Empty
 > glasses didn't do too much for me.

Twenty minutes of A-grade BSE-free Kim Deal heaven, and a lot of trashy
padding (a la "Empty Glasses", "Tipp City").

 Simon Hughes  wrote on Fri, 19 Apr 1996
 (Subject: v23)
 > Andrew Norman wrote:
 >
 > > No, don't do it at all.  Pretty pictures and interesting pictures
 > > are fun to look at and they are all different.  Having a
 > > disgusting album cover was ONE idea, ONE person had it, and every
 > > ugly album cover since has been 100% stolen from the first,
 > > whatever it was.
 >
 > I'm a bit unclear where this comment came from so I might be
 > jumping to the wrong conclusions.

You are - it was e who said this.  No offence taken.

 Sex Dwarf!  wrote on Sat, 20 Apr 1996
 (Subject: Re: v23 - ugh!)
 > > > Scheer's "Wish You Were Dead" (BAD 6005) is out now, and it is
 > > > AWFUL HEAVY METAL WANKING.
 >
 > Hmmm...heavy metal wanking? Interesting choice of words.  I
 > actually think Wish You Were Dead is one of their best songs.

Big fan of poor heavy metal, are we?

 > > > Cover is a load of embryos (sheep?), and is the most disgusting
 > > > thing I have seen
 >
 > They're pig fetuses, actually.  It's a photograph (not, by the way,
 > from anyone at v23).  The photographer and name of the photograph
 > are on the inside.

Did you really think I was implying that the cover was literally a load
of embryos?  Of course it's a photo.  "Disgusting" wasn't meant to be
taken literally, either - as I said above, I'm not unaccustomed to such
images.

And (for those of you who have struggled this far) has anyone else
noticed how 4AD-ish the vocals on Orbital's "Snivilisation" are?  Alison
Goldfrapp has worked with Tricky in the past, and she's on the new
Orbital single "The Box" as well (also has some heavy duty harpsichord
hammering like the solo in the Brandenburg concertos).  She does that
"abstract wailing" Lisa/Liz thing rather well.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 22/04/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Orbital


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:57:38 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel


Talking of Mark, anybody know why his Manchester (UK) date has been cancelled -
does this mean the whole UK tour is off?

(sorry to all non-UK and non-AMCers out there)

Dez


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:23:44 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Looking for FAQ


It seems that weekly isn't often enough to send out the location :) Since
several people have asked for it in the past few days, I'll post to the


(Please to ignore the bogus message from the hit-counter. The "calling
them idiots would be an insult to cerebrally challenged individuals
everywhere" sysadmins at inow.com haven't configured it properly.)

__________          ___________________          ________________________
Jens Alfke          OpenDoc Optimizator          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

to wound the autumnal city. So howled out to the world to give him a name.
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:07:51 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: 8 Page Story


One of my favorite new band discoveries right now is
Eight Page Story from Claremont, CA. They have no releases
yet except demo tapes, so the only way to hear them is
to go see a show. The next one is this Thursday April 25
somewhere in Claremont (Motley at Columbia and 9th) at 10pm.
I want people to see this band, so I'll be providing
transportation if anyone here in the greater Los Angeles area
is interested. How to describe the music? It's kinda indiepop,
but not overly twee or cute... lots of happy, upbeat energy...
female singer named Bethani who I'm sure most people here would
like... an overall Sundays kind of feel.

Too many bands, too little money.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:19:11 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: another Thurtene story


Don't know if Henry Frayne's reading 4ad-l anymore,
but I thought some others would be interested as well
to hear that last Friday, out of the blue, I got a letter
from Stichting Xymox Control in The Netherlands, which I
thought probably some Xymox fan club. Someone was asking for
a copy of Thurtene because of The Moon Seven Times' cover
of "Michelle" on there. Then I read who it was signed by:
Ronny Moorings-- the vocalist for Xymox himself! So that's
one more of the bands covered that'll hear what was done to their
song (very few left now-- looks like I'll have another chance with
Modern English coming 'round soon, speaking of which they play
at the House Of Blues on May 29th).

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:18:41 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel


At 11:57 AM 4/22/96, Dez wrote:
>Talking of Mark, anybody know why his Manchester (UK) date has been cancelled -
>does this mean the whole UK tour is off?
>
>(sorry to all non-UK and non-AMCers out there)
>

Low ticket sales...bleahhh! That damn Oasis :)...
Heard that the London shows are still on (5/3, 5/4) at the Bloomsberry
Theater. Go see Mark!

El


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 12:19:11 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG


Fairly non-4AD:

        Does anyone know where the Mark Eitzel/Tracey Thorn duet will appear?
I know EBTG have a new album coming out but haven't heard specifics, just
that such a song exists.  Now that EBTG have gone nightclubbing, I hope this
track(s) still surface.

        Thanks,
        David.

--
David McCallum                                                mccallum@efn.org
                  http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
                 a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:55:35 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: Cows, Childcatchers, Amps


>  Brett Boyd  wrote on Fri, 19 Apr 1996

>  > I have to chuckle to myself that people are "grossed-out" about
>  > something they probably had to be informed about--independent of
>  > their own initial impressions.

I thought the "In Ribbons" cover was ugly even when I believed it to
be melted candle wax.

--
  "Yes.  The journey through the human heart
     would have to wait until some other time."


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 13:49:29 -0700
From: "um.......call me the walrus" (rod@LOOP.COM)
Subject: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?


Hello all,

Hello, I just heard a band called Shallow and was wondering if anyone had
any info on them.  All I know is they will be in l.a. @ spaceland
sometime this week.  The soung I heard sounded kinda like the spaceman3
going to town on that three chord "louie louie/wild thing" riff with the
singer from the cranes sounding as young as ever.  I was just wondering
if anyone had any other info on them.......

Thanks,
Rodney

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:08:21 +-100 retained. retained.
From: Terry (ferrari@ENTERPRISE.NET)
Subject: shareware offer

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:51:39 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG


> Does anyone know where the Mark Eitzel/Tracey Thorn duet will appear?

Nowhere, I hope.

Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:11:39 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?


>Hello, I just heard a band called Shallow and was wondering if anyone had
>any info on them.  All I know is they will be in l.a. @ spaceland
>sometime this week.  The soung I heard sounded kinda like the spaceman3
>going to town on that three chord "louie louie/wild thing" riff with the
>singer from the cranes sounding as young as ever.  I was just wondering
>if anyone had any other info on them.......
>
>Thanks,
>Rodney

Well, as I live in Kansas City MO, where they are kinda from, I get to hear
about them constantly.  I shouldn't complain, they really are OK (saw them open
for Luna).  Probably the most intriguing band to come out of this town in a
while.  If you think they sound like Spaceman 3, you're right on the money.
Sonic Boom produced an EP for them, and a couple of tracks on the new CD
(actually, they may be tracks from the EP, I don't know, cause I don't own any
of their stuff).
--gary

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:58:59 -0600
From: Xantha Stringfellow (xantha@BURGOYNE.COM)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?


>Hello all,
>
>Hello, I just heard a band called Shallow and was wondering if anyone had
>any info on them.  All I know is they will be in l.a. @ spaceland
>sometime this week.  The soung I heard sounded kinda like the spaceman3
>going to town on that three chord "louie louie/wild thing" riff with the
>singer from the cranes sounding as young as ever.  I was just wondering
>if anyone had any other info on them.......
>
>Thanks,
>Rodney


There is a website for Shallow at:
     http://www.inlink.com/~jasper/index.html
It's a fairly new website and still under construction.
I hope this will help.

---Xantha
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
      http://www.burgoyne.com/pages/xantha/xanpage.html
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:05:20 -0500
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Anyone Heard of SHALLOW?


>
> Hello all,
>
> Hello, I just heard a band called Shallow and was wondering if anyone had
> any info on them.  All I know is they will be in l.a. @ spaceland
> sometime this week.  The soung I heard sounded kinda like the spaceman3
> going to town on that three chord "louie louie/wild thing" riff with the
> singer from the cranes sounding as young as ever.  I was just wondering
> if anyone had any other info on them.......
>
> Thanks,
> Rodney
>

i've got one of their tapes; it's an 8 song cassette called
"lackadaisical."  really good stuff, it reminds me quite a bit of the
cranes, but the singer's voice doesn't quite as childish as alison's,
imho.  they also have a cd out called "3-D stereo trouble" which i
haven't heard.  personally, i'd try and go to their concert.

jason


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:13:32 -0500
From: Sung Shim (foss@WWA.COM)
Subject: new LUSH promo CD


     just got this in the mail today

Lush _Last Night_ PRO-CD-8034

1. Last Night (Latent Power Mix)
2. Undertow (Spooky Remix)
3. Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix)
4. Lovelife (Suga Built Remix)
5. Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix)
6. Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95)

     some really keen mixes here.  i was shocked at how much i liked some of
them.  the lovelife remix is especially lovely.  hip hoppin.   still can't
really get into ladykillers.

sung
---
 http://shoga.wwa.com/~foss/                  foss@wwa.com

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:53:40 -0700
From: David McCallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: shareware offer


Terry wrote:

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lectronic mail should be aware of our services
> we are 'ferrari software', the cheapest of shareware in England with programs 
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>
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        Don't do this, Terry!  No one on this list subscribes to be sold whateve
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--
David McCallum                                                mccallum@efn.org
                  http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
                 a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:37:23 -0700
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: shareware offer

              Apr 1996 22:08:21 +-100

What is this?!?  The Please SPAM us list?  Unless you're selling graphic design
software that will deconvolute album cover art into it's original animal
carcasses then i'm not interested.

Note that this was sent to several lists:

from header:
>   From: Terry 

>   Subject:      shareware offer
>   Comments: To: "96PLAN@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU"
>   <96PLAN@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU>,
>   "9NOV89-L@LISTSERV.GMD.DE" <9NOV89-L@LISTSERV.GMD.DE>,
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>   <9WEBSTER@caligari.Dartmouth.EDU>,
>   "LCN-PC@VM1.NODAK.EDU" 
>   To: Multiple recipients of list 4AD-L
>   <4AD-L@AMERICAN.EDU>

Anyone else gonna send "Terry" a polite but verbose reminder that this is not
the place for this?

-cz

original text:
>   please excuse this intrusion into your mail box but we
>   feel that all = users of electronic mail should be aware
>   of our services
>   we are 'ferrari software', the cheapest of shareware in
>   England with = programs starting at under 1 penny each
>   we will ship software to any country worldwide and offer
>   you an extra = 20% off our already low prices
>   we have programs covering most topics all listed on our
>   easy-to-us disk = catalog (size 1mb compressed). to
>   receive your free copy via email, just = send us your
>   name and address to   ferrari@enterprise.net
>
>   thank you for taking the time to read this and we look
>   forward to = hearing from you.
>
>   best regards
>
>   ferrari software

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:30:29 -0700
From: Daniel McLellan (scot@WELL.COM)
Subject: Re: v23 - ug


Thoughtful message jb.

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:38:38 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD


You wrote:
>
>     just got this in the mail today
>
>Lush _Last Night_ PRO-CD-8034
>
>1. Last Night (Latent Power Mix)
>2. Undertow (Spooky Remix)
>3. Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix)
>4. Lovelife (Suga Built Remix)
>5. Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix)
>6. Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95)
>
>     some really keen mixes here.  i was shocked at how much i liked
some of
>them.  the lovelife remix is especially lovely.  hip hoppin.   still
can't
>really get into ladykillers.
>

I got mine too! did you get any of the answers right on the triva
challenge? I didn't and I still got one, not many people must not have
taken it.

                                    Brian


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:36:25 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: New Stereolab reviews?


Doesn't anyone want to share a review or comments on the new Stereolab
album? I've seen a few one-line comments on it but nothing more
descriptive. I'll certainly end up buying it, but MAQ was rather
disappointing so it's rather lower on my shopping list than it would
otherwise be. I listened to the first few seconds at Tower the other day
and the first track reminded me strongly of Tortoise(!).

So if anyone would like to post a review, mini or otherwise, I'd greatly
appreciate it. Ta.

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                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

to wound the autumnal city. So howled out to the world to give him a name.
                                            _____________________________
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:34:16 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Dealing with spammers [Re: shareware offer]


The way to respond to spams posted to the list is to complain to the
spammer's Internet provider, which is typically "postmaster" at the same
domain as the spammer, e.g. "postmaster@enterprise.net" in the most
recent case. Put "spam" in the title and include a copy of the message.
Explain that the message was sent to an entire mailing list and that it
was inappropriate. Don't be rude, it's not their fault. Urge them to
reprimand the spammer. If you're feeling extra cruel, cc the spammer.

Sending responses to the list, like:

>        Don't do this, Terry!  No one on this list subscribes to be sold
>whatever the hell your selling.

is useless -- 9 chances out of ten this idiot doesn't even subscribe to
the list. But when a postmaster gets flooded with complaints as a result
of a spam perpetrated by one of her users, her wrath will be fast and
terrible. I've gotten some very gratifying responses regarding some
recent spammers... (evil cackle)

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Jens Alfke          OpenDoc Optimizator          jens@apple.com     [work]
                                                 jens@mooseyard.com [play]

to wound the autumnal city. So howled out to the world to give him a name.
                                            _____________________________
                                            http://www.mooseyard.com/Jens

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:13:52 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Mark Eitzel/EBTG


On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:

> > Does anyone know where the Mark Eitzel/Tracey Thorn duet will appear?
>
> Nowhere, I hope.
>
> Frank

        Thanks, Frank, for a response that not only doesn't give an
answer to the question, but does so in a very tired way.
        Thanks for wasting my time.

__________________________________________________________________________
David McCallum                                            mccallum@efn.org
                http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html
               -a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r.kane


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:03:21 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: lush notes


You'd think that with a dissertation due on my chairperson's desk
in five months, I wouldn't being doing too much work on my WWWeb
page dedicated to a silly English band (then again, perhaps it
explains exactly why I just spent an hour tidying things up :-)

So, new on the Lush pages, two different reviews of the recent show
in Houston.  Find out why Lush may never play the great state of
Texas again!

Find new links to the "official" (and very slow loading) Lush
pages!!

Find new links to the recent Live Chat Interview!!!

Also find info on how to subscribe to both "starlust" and "4AD-L".
I was getting so many email requests for info that I decided to
put the info on the pages.  I promise to remove it if we begin to
be swamped by addle-minded lush fans...

Reality

p.s.  I haven't been siphoning off the reviews people have been
posting here.  If you want your review added to the pages, feel
free to send it to me.  Though don't expect an immediate reply,
please.

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finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key -- NeXTmail accepted

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:33:09 -0400
From: Athol (ktp52952@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: Re: new LUSH promo CD


how many times has they put out this song?
wasn't it on the hypocrite single and the doom-generation cd, and now the
last night single. is it on any others?
hmmmm.

 -ktp52952@Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu     -http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ktp52952
 -star-crossed on my face.

On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Sung Shim wrote:

>      just got this in the mail today
>
> Lush _Last Night_ PRO-CD-8034
>
> 2. Undertow (Spooky Remix)


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:30:53 -0700
From: Ed Klein (eklein@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Projekt Festival


Out of curiosity, how many of you listies (besides me) will be attending the
Projekt Festival?

--
Ed Klein
eklein@kzsu.stanford.edu


Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:06 +0000
From: the mystery parade (tmp@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: red hot + ... mbv and mark eitzel???


I heard there was collaboration between Mark Eitzel and My Bloody Valentine on
the new installment of the Red Hot +... series. Could someone elaborate?

Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 01:56:55 EST
From: David Boughey (dboughey@MGDESTMX01.ERIN.GOV.AU)
Subject: DCD Half World Tour


Huite Rietveld 


informed us -


>Dead Can Dance embark on a massive world tour in June 1996. taking in venues


>across Europe and The Americas with capacities of up to 8500.

Not my idea of massive or "World".  I know I've whinged about this before, but
given that they began in Melbourne, why not include Australia in the tour?

David Boughey
Charismatic Megafauna

Waiting for some E email