Subject: Re: v23 - ug
Subject: Re: paving over some graves
Subject: Re: Help! Stereolab
Subject: Re: v23 - ug
Subject: art criticism
Subject: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Re: misery loves (the record) company
Subject: comments on Childcatcher versions
Subject: Re: DEAD CAN DACE tracklisting and albuminfo
Subject: Name this Stereolab song
Subject: Re: DCD Where are they playing in San Fran
Subject: Re: double dating Dead Can Dance
Subject: Re: velour
Subject: Re: v23 - ugh!
Subject: v23 grossout cover art
Subject: absence of listiness
Subject: NDN:Something v23 Fishy
Subject: Has anydone done an AMPS review?
Subject: Re: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Re: Corporate Attack... again.
Subject: Re: Name this Stereolab song
Subject: Re: v23 - ugh!
Subject: Re: v23 - ug
Subject: v23
Subject: Re: comments on Childcatcher versions
Subject: Re: v23 - ugh! & Warp - ugh! Seefeel are crap, etc.
Subject: Art discussion...
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Subject: Re: v23 - ugh!
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Subject: Re: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Animals for sale
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Subject: Re: Animals for sale
Subject: More childcatcher, i guess
Subject: Projekt Festival
Subject: Cow Heart Fools
Subject: silvania
Subject: Re: Animals for sale/v23
Subject: Help
Subject: volume series. is it difficult to...
Subject: Re: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Even more childcatcher and Armpits!
Subject: Re: paving over some graves
Subject: Re: going home
Subject: Re: Repetition [Re: The Aphex Twin]
Subject: Re: volume series. is it difficult to...
Subject: Re: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Re: the free tape...an hnia observation, of sorts...
Subject: Re: Totonto StP tour: Mojave3 instore??
Subject: Re: Art discussion...
Subject: Re: the free tape...an hnia observation, of sorts...
Subject: Re: The Aphex Twin
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:55:56 -0400
I LOVE the overlapping faded fonts (and actually have no problem with
entrails etc., usually they are done in a way that suits the music, or at
least my mind has made them fit) trompe le monde goes perfectly with cow
eyeballs as does inribbons with entrails. Its the lesson of feedback -
its not WHAT it is on the objective level, its HOW it is used in the art
form.
Anyway, the overlapping fonts are great because (at least for the PS)
stuff, it has always fit my conception of the band and what goes on in
their songs, ideas and melodies and rythms surface and are subsumed.
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:02:29 -0700
in defense of scheer: i was expecting black sabbath, and what i got
was something just a tad bit heavier than the standard crop of
indie/rock happenings. it's not THAT heavy nor metal. i kept seeing
this guy make the infamous devil sign during their set as a joke,
and i wanted to bop him over the head for being a stupidass. i don't
see what all the big commotion is about. i only heard one song by them
prior to seeing them live, and the guitar work was definately on the
cheese-metal side, but what occurred live was much more restrained
and the two songs on the tape aren't that much off the mark from the
way they performed them. if anything, 4ad could "guide" them into showing
some restraint. i mean, they told mark kozelek they didn't like his
guitar solos...the least they could do is persuade scheer to turn down
their Heavy Metal pedals. the singer certainly has a voice that overrides
the thick sound the musicians create and she *is* a doll. funny how this
tour brings together 3 bands whose female members are the most attractive
out of the entire 4ad roster...i am curious what horny male packaged
this tour... ;)
*k*
...StP live photos due to be scanned and put up at my soon-2-be web site...
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:20:51 -0400
This is a bit old, but...
>I would take them to be the prime essence of what StereoLab is all
>about. If you only like to dance to albums, well...stick to the top 40
>stuff and stir clear of Stereolab in general.
Baaalony! ;) Whenever I hear that drone come on up, I go made on
the dancefloor. I *love* dance to Stereolab when I see them live,
since I get so worked up and into the "trance" of the drone of
the songs. Granted, not too many people are dancing, but it
drives me to the lengths of endurance! =)
/Michael - sentinel
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:55:50 -0700
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Joseph Burns wrote:
> Its the lesson of feedback - its not WHAT it is on the objective
> level, its HOW it is used in the art form.
What you have just written here is as meaningless as the artwork you are
defending. No more of this "my perception your perception" goofiness,
please. I thought the whole point of 4AD in the first place was to make
classy and beautiful art without sinking into the relativist quagmire of
hippie pomo culture.
Jens, is there some way I can killfile anything with the word
"subjective" in it?
And to whomever: overlapping fonts do not by their nature render text
unreadble or imbalanced--it's just that the more complicated the
typography the more difficult to keep it balanced and not have things
jumbled. Frankly I think a number of people working out there are
interested in hiding their lack of originality behind unreadbility.
I still say the best laid out magazine in the world is Goldmine.
...and Scorn still suck!
e, who does not drool when people challenge his preconceptions
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:07:47 -0700
While we're on the subject of art, or more particularly, graphic
design criticism, one thing I wish good ol' Vaughan would
retire is the "grid" format for listing song titles.
and now the Shaving The Pavement tape. Makes it look like
a HTML table!
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 02:38:10 -0400
It seems that mojave3 is doing instore appearances at before certain
shows, so does anybody know if they are doing one before their Toronto
date on May 4?
-joey-
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 03:00:18 -0400
welllllll (water) you are wrong.
air miami mixes it up quite well ("i,i,i i've got it world cup
fever"..."hey, hey, hey, hey i'm gonna get fucked up today.") . lush sings
"shake baby, shake" (i know that is not the title) and that songs pretty
fun. liqourice makes quite a perky record and jennifer toomey is hilarious
live. she kept on singing in between songs a warped refrain from the brady
bunch theme song... she would sing, "the youngest one had a horn." i
thought it to be quite funny. maybe you had to be there. the new lisa
germano track seems pretty lively. also the new presidents of the united
states of america are always happy with all their damn peaches. i know
they are not 4AD yet, but you never know?
also the new 4AD tribute album that is coming out in june. i got to listen
to an advanced copy. it's a tribute to barry white. dead can dance do a
great version of "can't get enough of your love" and his name is alive's
rendition of "never gonna quit" is amazingly upbeat. even this mortal coil
gets in the mix by doing "my first, my last, my everything." the
vaughan oliver design is breath taking. it's this amazing collage of barry
white photos.
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On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, deluxx wrote:
> Okay, here's my gripe,
>
> I am thoroughly depressed by the amount of depressing crap that 4AD has
> put out. (isn't it ironic? it's like raaa-eee-yaaain...*thwap*) Yes, I
> realize 4AD was born during, and helped develop, the "goth" period, and
> I also realize that the whole "alternative" genre is basically just
> gloom-and-doom crap. That doesn't mean I have to listen to that aural
> sludge. I've gone through my 4AD disc and weeded out the ones that I
> consider to be somewhat "upbeat" releases.
>
> Belly "Star"
> Unrest "Perfect Teeth"
> Frank Black "Teenager of the Year"
> UVS "Joy 1967-1990" (but only if you ignore the lyrics)
>
> Hmm, I see a problem here. Where's all the "happy" music??!! Ivo needs
> to grow the fuck up and stop being so fashionably depressed. There's
> more pure joy in the song "Make-Out Club" that in all the 1996 4AD
> releases. Lush is too angry, scheer is schit, mojave is too murky.
> They should rename it the "Slashing the Wrist Veins" tour. I used to be
> such a 4AD junkie. Now I wonder if I'll ever buy a 4AD product again.
>
>
>
> --deluxx
>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 03:26:13 -0400
the Select childcatcher came out "free with select may 1994." i'm
lookin' at it right now...the tape also has primal scream, boo radleys,
ride, idha, afx, st. etienne, awesome kristin hersh song, one dove...
awesome tape
what do you all think of it, this version? i like it better than the
lovelife one, i think i don't like the lovelife dropout too much. lush
got really into dropouts...
i also like the older tinkerbell...... anyone else? it's so much more
prettier and glittery.
so is the AVAM childcaatcher different? anyone know?
lushous lor
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:43:24 +0200
>so what exactly is the dcd release date for the US. i thought it was june 3rd
>around the wrold and june 11th here in the US?
>
Indeed it is.
>also any info on brendan's solo release date?
It's removed from the releaselist for 1996, so I give up hope.
Cheers,
Huite
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:39:09 +0200
I have this little recording of Stereolab, but there's one song
that I don't find on any of the albums I have.
It's kind of a slow song, where the catchline is like this:
"We want un-conditional un-conditional... we want love
We want un-conditional un.conditional... we want hate"
Shouldn't be too difficult, I think.
First one to answer gets the protected title of 'Stereolab Fan of the Day
19.Apr.96' :-)
Thanks,
-kjetil
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:43:26 +0200
>Hello
>
>this is my first time posting so if I posted wrong sorry.
>
>Where in San Francisco is DCD playing? I called BASS tickets and they
>had no idea who they are or where they are playing?
>
My fax says in the Greek Theatre on 11th august. But it also says Greek
Theatre in Los Angeles on the 13th of august.
I don't know if there's a mistake, or that both city's have a Greek Theatre.
Cheers,
Huite
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:43:28 +0200
IIt seems to be twio concerts n a row. For Amsterdam that is.
The Toward the Within show was in a operahouse. Now the new concert
is in a much smaller theatre, so two shows are needed.
In Seattle they'll star at the Fifth Ave Theatre.
Good luck in finding a date.
Huite
>No! I'm not talking about me getting a date with Lisa and someone else getting
>a date with Brendan. (I don't date married women) I'm wondering about the
>numerous cases where DCD are listed for two dates. Are they actually
performing
>two nights in a row OR is the concert date not determined yet. I hope they're
>playing two dates 'cuz i'm in one of these lucky cities (Seattle).
>
>
>um... so anyone in Seattle need a date for the double dating Dead Can Dance
>shows? Maybe we could get Wrigley's to sponsor us!
>please direct all responses to me personally, [email protected], no need to
>clutter up the list ;)
>
>-cz
>
>particular venue and date tickets go on sale PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us know.
>Thanks.
>
>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 03:04:07 -0400
tooth and nail have the fastest mail ordering i have ever seen. i got a cd
in just over a week and so has my girlfriend and we live in detroit, the
city where barry white rocks and jams...
can't wait for that tribute album.
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Heffalump wrote:
> > velour is super keen.
>
> Say.... I live near Seattle (isn't that where the label is based?), and I
> still can't find this disc anywhere. Direct mail order would be an
> option, but it's absurd for me to wait "4 to 6 weeks" for a single
> CD, and I won't do it unless I have to. I've asked Parasol, and they
> know nothing about it...
>
> > "spirit needs the spiritual" - hnia
>
> Eating that burrito tonight was spiritual.
>
> Mike
>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:49:57 +0100
Apr 17, 96 09:22:48 am
Steven Venn Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 06:52:21 -0400
>> it took me about a year to realize that the cover of In Ribbons is
>> actually a disected human torso. it looks more like candle wax.
>
>It is neither. Pale Saints said in an interview that it was the
>entrails of a cow, or something like that.
Hmm. I was looking at it yesterday and thinking, "That's an awful lot of
flesh for one human being". But what's that dark thing on the right that
looks like a piece of charred wood then?
The best description I've heard of it is "a pile of ossified snot"...
The image on the CD itself is definitely entrails, though. Have a look at
some tripe the next time you're in a supermarket.
Larry
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 06:34:52 -0500
from "Jack B Huynh" at Apr 15, 96 04:47:42 am
*tap* *tap* *tap*
Is this thing on? I haven't gotten a thing from ze list in a week
... did we all get 'digested' for fun???
From the flagstones
Kendaltje
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:36:46 EST
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:48:01 PDT
There was hell of a lot of talk on the Lovelife LP - various reviews (good and
bad), which I found to be interesting / useful. I can't seem to recall too much
on the Tipp City LP. I may have been sleeping or something, but I do know it
went nowhere near into the depth of most recent releases. I have seen the LP a
few times (not on sale I might add) and have been tempted. However, Empty glasse
didn't do too much for me.
Anyone got an old review kicking around you could send me??
Tara
Chris
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:18:59 -0400
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, photon boy wrote:
> It seems that mojave3 is doing instore appearances at before certain
> shows, so does anybody know if they are doing one before their Toronto
> date on May 4?
i dunno about toronto, but theyre gonna be in royal oak michigan on the
5th...
will i see anyone there?
dan k
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:35:18 -0500
>
>Either you are stupid, really young or just a crazy fan. I wouldn't spend
>this kind of money on the CT. Their day has passed. The sun set and its
>time to bury the dead. Don't do it man. Keep your money for something
>better.
>
>
Then, i gotta be the 3 of them... Ok, Four Calendar... wasn=B4t what we all
expected but everyone has a bad day. I=B4ve listened to various excerpts=
from
Milk & Kisses and it seems, clearly, that the dead are rasing from their
grave! And in what way! Besides, i haven=B4t found stuff that great in the
last 4 months so, i have some money to shop around. Anyway, I still don=B4t
agree with those 2 part singles... it=B4s a kick in the butt.
Pepe
(having just finished ordering the Limited Edition of Milk & Kisses...)
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:50:28 -0700
Kjetil Kristiansen wrote:
>
> I have this little recording of Stereolab, but there's one song
> that I don't find on any of the albums I have.
>
> It's kind of a slow song, where the catchline is like this:
>
> "We want un-conditional un-conditional... we want love
> We want un-conditional un.conditional... we want hate"
>
> Shouldn't be too difficult, I think.
> First one to answer gets the protected title of 'Stereolab Fan of the Day
> 19.Apr.96' :-)
That is 'Ronco Symphony' on The Groop Played Space Age Batchelor
Pad Music. One of the better tracks on an otherwise mediocre album. So
do I win the title? :-D
Chris M, Huge Stereolab fan, who plans
to see them when they swing through Cincinatti.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:01:40 -0400
>On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>
>> > it took me about a year to realize that the cover of In Ribbons is
>> > actually a disected human torso. it looks more like candle wax.
>>
>> It is neither. Pale Saints said in an interview that it was the
>> entrails of a cow, or something like that.
>
>The Pale Saints said in an interview that they had a contest with their
>fan club to title the album. The Pale Saints have probably said in
>interviews that the moon was made of rat embryos. Your point? :)
>
> einexile
> (still thinks it may just be a candle)
imho, i believe it looks most like a rock formation. perhaps some kind of
calcite...?
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:49:55 -0400
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, einexile the meek wrote:
> > Its the lesson of feedback - its not WHAT it is on the objective
> > level, its HOW it is used in the art form.
>
> What you have just written here is as meaningless as the artwork you are
> defending. No more of this "my perception your perception" goofiness,
> please. I thought the whole point of 4AD in the first place was to make
> classy and beautiful art without sinking into the relativist quagmire of
> hippie pomo culture.
as usual e, your reactionary stance shows you havent thought critically
about what was said. My post had NOTHING to do with 'my perception your
perception goofiness'. It simply is to the point that WHAT you use to
make a piece of art is not as important as the peice of art itself. This
is a basic tenent of modernism, and not a 'relativist quagmire of hippie
pomo culture.' A beautiful photo of rat fetuses is STILL a beautiful
photo, and a photo that is evocative enough to make the veiwer vacilate
between an interpretation of something disturbing (such as cow entrails)
or something mundane (such as candle wax) I think is a very effective image.
... wishing there was a way to filekill anything with false claims of
'meekness'
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:41:02 BST
-0500 <[email protected]>
Pepe wrote:
>Hmm, I never thought a shit could be 'art'.
Should have got yourself down the ICA (Institute of Contemporary Arts,
London), when was it, about twenty years ago. Can't remember who it was
(wild guess - Metzger) but someone was basically bottling their shit as
exhibiting/selling it.
Art stinks!
Andrew Norman wrote:
>No, don't do it at all. Pretty pictures and interesting pictures are fun
>to look at and they are all different. Having a disgusting album cover
>was ONE idea, ONE person had it, and every ugly album cover since has
>been 100% stolen from the first, whatever it was.
I'm a bit unclear where this comment came from so I might be jumping to the
wrong conclusions. Does this comment refer to the album covers of embryos
(foetuses?), intestines, eyes, etc. If so, I think Andrew is wrong. All
of these, or at least all the ones I have seen, have definitely had a
(unique) beauty to them, imho. Very often I didn't have a clue about the
origins of the cover when I first saw it. Some I'm not even sure about
now.
So, Andrew (or anyone else), is it the origin of the cover that makes it
"disgusting" or is it the cover itself? If the former, don't you see any
beauty in the covers?
Simon Hughes
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:56:07 -0500
At 03:26 AM 4/19/96 -0400, you wrote:
>the Select childcatcher came out "free with select may 1994." i'm
[..]
>what do you all think of it, this version? i like it better than the
>lovelife one, i think i don't like the lovelife dropout too much. lush
>got really into dropouts...
[..]
>so is the AVAM childcaatcher different? anyone know?
yes the AVAM childcatcher is the same as the one on the free Select
tape. And yeah i like the AVAM/Select version a lot better. It's got a lot
more energy to it. Although the best track on that free Select tape by far
is the Dust Bros. remix of Saint Etienne's "Like a Motorway". awww yeah.
those vocals really stick with that groove.
speaking of Lush, I bought the new LP a few days ago. I have to say
that I heard snippits of it at Tower, then bought it and didn't like it as
much as I thought I might. and what is the deal with those trumpets and
horns? i hate how they used those instruments. some of the string
arrangements work nicely though. I still look forward to going to the
chicago StP, if only for a chance to catch HNIA. Any chicago list people
going? let's say hello.
sung
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:00:57 +0100
retained.
einexile the meek
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:11:57 -0400
...not exactly 4AD content but is anyone familiar with Frederick
Sommer or Joel Peter Witkin? The latter reminds me of 23 envelope
but he preceded them so...
mml
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:08:26 -0400
Thanks to everyone who responded to my DCD tour dates query...
I was wondering if anyone caught Lisa Gerrard on her tour and if so
how was it? was it only things from the Mirror Pool? lots of
musicians? was Brendan's brother there etc. ?
mml
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:23:57 -0700
Andrew Norman wrote:
>If you lived oop north tha'd have to eat that, tha knows! (It *is*
>tripe, isn't it?).
No -- tripe looks like a white terrycloth towel, only slightly =
glistening. I've only seen it once and found its appearance more than =
faintly nauseating. But I never was a "variety meats" kinda guy.
>I thought the "Trompe le Monde" cover was funny -
>the idea of cows' eyeballs looking like aliens (or vice versa).
Agreed -- and a nice reference back to "Debaser", which was itself a =
reference to Bu=F1uel & Dali's film "Un Chien d'Andalou" (an =
essential Surrealist document which we've all seen, right?)
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:33:28 -0400
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, liles melissa m wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my DCD tour dates query...
> I was wondering if anyone caught Lisa Gerrard on her tour and if so
> how was it? was it only things from the Mirror Pool? lots of
> musicians? was Brendan's brother there etc. ?
i was fortunate enough to see lisa gerrard in detroit
last year. i thought that the performance was wonderful,
and that the songs from 'the mirror pool' were much more
lively when presented with full band.
speaking of the band, her backup musicians were everyone
who was in the 'toward the within' film except the bald
keyboard guy. ronan o'something was quite impressive
on drums. They played 'sanvean', which may or may not be
a 'dead can dance' song, but other than that it was all
new or off from mirror pool. one song in particular that
was not on mirror pool i enjoyed more than any of the other
songs performed. it featured voodoo-like drumming and
lots of handclaps and percussion (cymbals, tambourine etc...).
I loved the show: but there was an empty space
perceptable in the sound and onstage where brendan's contribution
would have been. i cant wait to see 'em all together as DCD.
I hope v23 is comissioned to do the album art, and that there
is a shitpile of merchandising available (all they had at lisa g.
was a tour programme and a poster).
rabidly awaiting this july,
dan k.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:09:26 -0400
>
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, daniel klyn wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, photon boy wrote:
>
> > It seems that mojave3 is doing instore appearances at before certain
> > shows, so does anybody know if they are doing one before their Toronto
> > date on May 4?
>
> i dunno about toronto, but theyre gonna be in royal oak michigan on the
> 5th...
>
> will i see anyone there?
> dan k
>
i hope to be there, that is if i know where where is. if any listies in the
MI area know please enlighten me..
cheryl
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:44:27 -0400
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:22:01 -0800
Apr 1996 14:44:27 -0400
> Have you ever wanted to own a Kinkajous or a Bingturong?
> How about just something your buddy doesn't have. Our
> advertisers offer everything from Tarantulas to Prairie
> Dogs directly from the breeder. Come take a look at
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> month and include 2 color pictures no set up fee no long
> term commitment ads are sold one month at a time.
Hmmm. Is this related to the v23 discussion? For all those budding graphics
design listies. Hmmm, i wonder what a kinkajous' entrails look like. I don't
even know what a kinkajous is.
Is this a joke or she we start sending you personal hate mail/false orders from
anonymous servers/all of our cookie recipes/and lots of concerned mail about
this insidious "good times" virus? :)
new Cocteau Twins album, Milk and Kisses.
-cz
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:12:07 -0500
> yes the AVAM childcatcher is the same as the one on the free Select
>tape. And yeah i like the AVAM/Select version a lot better. It's got a lot
>more energy to it. Although the best track on that free Select tape by far
>is the Dust Bros. remix of Saint Etienne's "Like a Motorway". awww yeah.
>those vocals really stick with that groove.
>
> speaking of Lush, I bought the new LP a few days ago. I have to say
>that I heard snippits of it at Tower, then bought it and didn't like it as
>much as I thought I might. and what is the deal with those trumpets and
>horns? i hate how they used those instruments. some of the string
>arrangements work nicely though. I still look forward to going to the
>chicago StP, if only for a chance to catch HNIA. Any chicago list people
>going? let's say hello.
>
>sung
>---
> http://shoga.wwa.com/~foss/ [email protected]
I also like the AVAM tune, tho i aint too sure if i like it any more than i
do this version. The earlier one does sound more raw, which is good, but it
is missing that "latin" part of the song, u know which i mean? That is one
of my favorite parts.
BTW, i am going to StP, may 9 in chicago, but i wish they had booked for
Double DOor! That woulda been better. I wont mention what i have to say
about HNIA, :-x
Ernesto
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:06:14 -0500
Hi...I hope you don't mind if I pass on some information to the 4AD list,
as I know a great many of the readers are also interested in the Projekt
label. I don't want to waste your bandwith or have this mistaken as a
commercial message, but I've been getting so many personal e-mails about it
that I thought it would help inform those who care.
Some of you may already know about the upcoming Projekt Festival, June 25th
and 26th at the Vic Theater in Chicago. People from all around the country
have already made plans on coming, and we hope this grows into an
all-inclusive event, with fans venturing out to see Projekt bands that
might otherwise never play their home town.
The line-up for "From Across This Gray Land" will be as follows: NIGHT #1
Lycia, Thanatos, lovesliescrushing & Love Spirals Downwards. NIGHT #2
Attrition, Soul Whirling Somewhere, Sean Bowley (of Eden), Arcanta & black
tape for a blue girl. Steve Roach will open both nights with a performance
of darkAmbient music beginning at 7pm. Following the two night festival
will be the first ever appearance by Lycia's side band, Bleak, at Neo.
Tickets are on sale at the Vic box office, through Ticket Master (in the
Chicago area) and from 1-800-CD-LASER. Cost is $30 for both nights. There
will be an additional $5 service charge per ticket order when you buy
directly from Projekt (we ship via UPS so you will be assured of receiving
your tickets). The show is 17 and over, the theatre is air conditioned, and
has a really great sound system. Seats are general admission.
For more info call 312-491-0108 or visit our website, http://www.projekt.com.
For credit card purchases call 1-800-CD-LASER or write: Projekt. Box
166155. Chicago, Il. 60616. When you order directly from Projekt, you will
also recieve an information sheet about where to stay, airline deals,
getting around, etc.
Thanks for your interest,
Charles
Projekt/Darkwave
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:03:59 -0700
The art work for "In Ribbons,"
" to the best of my recollection, is a photograph
of the upper-half of a desicated cow heart.
Look for the arteries going off the top of the page...and then you can
visualize it.
This "half of a cow" nonesense has to be disspelled--how can you photograph
half a cow cut apart and see anything as intelligible as a melted-down candle?
Interestingly enough, not only has this art inspired so much talk, but this
art creates beauty by manipulating forms within the subject (cow heart) which
people find repugnant, morbid or "gross."
I have to chuckle to myself that people are "grossed-out" about something
they probably had to be informed about--independent of their own initial
impressions. I think that the heart of the matter is the gross anatomy
of a lot of childish ignorance and the fear of being mortal.
So you "ugh-ers" make me squeamish!
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:50:50 -0400
Hi! I'm new on this list, and this an extract that i put to
avalyn, and i believe this would be interesting for some people here,
isn't it?
>> Anyway, with all the texture on slowdive songs, there is probably
>> no way you (or anyone) can recreate the exact sound live.
Have you heard Silvania?
They do those guitar sounds on their first phase and inclusive
give it sometimes fast movement to all that sound, it was simply
beautiful.The influences i see on their early phase -miel nube hiel
ep (1992) and en cielo de oceano lp (1993)- is slowdive/cocteau
/spacemen3. Really great!!
Now they're in ambient! -Paisaje III lp (1995)-. Remember 5ep?
Like that but with a lot of more beautiful ambiences, it's all so
worked it has lots of nice details, imagine they put on it some nice
guitar ala Durutti Column!! And the more incredible is that they can
give to ambient the same feelings of sadness, melancholy, beauty and
sweet pornography they gave to the shoegazing!
Oh, you really must hear all this!!!
Take care.
Wilder Spaceman.
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:38:10 +0200
>Have you ever wanted to own a Kinkajous or a Bingturong? How about just
>something your buddy doesn't have. Our advertisers offer everything from
>Tarantulas to Prairie Dogs directly from the breeder. Come take a look at
There GOD has invented some new animals! Like Miniature Horses or Munchkin
Cats (those us cats with short legs so they can't jump - I hate the people
who 'made' them!).
Could be some new material for future v23 sleeve designs... (dead or alive)
I did buy a Mad Cow at this site, they're very cheap and easy to keep...
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, April 20, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:15:00 PDT
I need to get the current subscribing instructions for the 4AD and Dreampop
lists. (and / or the 4AD-L FAQ url with which to find the info)
Any help greatly appreciated. Please reply to this address or send to:
[email protected]
Thanks.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:31:54 -0400
concerning the volume series, that most times has more than a lion's share of
thislisty contributions, I am wondering how rare the early installments are
to find.
this past weekend I saw not one, but two copies of vol. 1 and a copy of vol.
4.
Is this a find?
e-mail me if you can assist.
thanks.
jason
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:38:11 -0400
>> It seems that mojave3 is doing instore appearances at before certain
>> shows, so does anybody know if they are doing one before their Toronto
>> date on May 4?
>
>i dunno about toronto, but theyre gonna be in royal oak michigan on the
>5th...
>
>will i see anyone there?
>dan k
>
>
you betcha dan~~~
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:25:01 -0700
>
>I also like the AVAM tune, tho i aint too sure if i like it any more
than i
>do this version. The earlier one does sound more raw, which is good,
but it
>is missing that "latin" part of the song, u know which i mean? That
is one
>of my favorite parts.
If anyone is interested Lush took Childcatcher from a Blonde song
called "Sunday Girl". They sound exactly the same. How do I know this?
Miki admited to it on the "Black Session" boot. Another interesting
fact from Brian.
Stupid Question: Is Miki's armpit hair Bright red too?
(Sorry, I had to ask!)
Brian, whoo ha! I got u all in check!
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:28:10 -0700
>Add all of the above to an over-crowded, over-heated room,
>and I'm starting to think I'll stick with bands nobody's
>heard of so I can at least be comfortable when I see them.
Anyone feel that they were cheated when Lush put out Lovelife? Everyone
seems to like them now. I think I deserve credit for liking them before
they were famous. Their next albums liner notes should read:
We'd like to thank our friends and family but most of all Brian who
liked us before we were famous. We love you Brian!
Brian
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 02:12:41 GMT
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:35:48 PDT, naor wrote:
>does anybody know when is 4ad finally going
>to release the first, last, and only
>record by "going home".
Don't hold your breath. I did, and now I'm dead.
Paul,
ghost on the iway.
PS
Unless you count Mojave 3...
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:54:18 -0500
gavin bryars' "jesus'blood never failed me yet" is another example of
classical-ish music changing very slowly as it repeats. this piece goes on for
over 70 min. still yet, how can you pass up something with tom waits' name on
it? -- shane
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:42:54 -0400
no, not really.
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> concerning the volume series, that most times has more than a lion's share of
> thislisty contributions, I am wondering how rare the early installments are
> to find.
>
> this past weekend I saw not one, but two copies of vol. 1 and a copy of vol.
> 4.
> Is this a find?
>
> e-mail me if you can assist.
>
> thanks.
>
> jason
>
> [email protected]
>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:40:49 -0400
MOJAVE THREE WILL APPEAR AT REPEAT THE BEAT IN ROYAL OAK, MICHIGAN AT
for directions reply to me privately...
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star vein
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:04:19 -0500
hi.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:29:17 -0400
>
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, daniel klyn wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, photon boy wrote:
>
> > It seems that mojave3 is doing instore appearances at before certain
> > shows, so does anybody know if they are doing one before their Toronto
> > date on May 4?
>
> i dunno about toronto, but theyre gonna be in royal oak michigan on the
> 5th...
>
> will i see anyone there?
> dan k
>
you'll see me there.
ALSO I POSTED THAT MOJAVE THREE WAS TO PERFORM AT 5:00pm.
THAT IS WRONG INFO!!!!!!!!
THEY WILL BE THERE AT 3:30pm.
SORRY
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star vein
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:38:28 -0400
> is anyone familiar with Frederick
> Sommer or Joel Peter Witkin? The latter reminds me of 23 envelope
> but he preceded them so...
> mml
>
JOEL PETER WITKIN is a great artist. i mean was a great artist. the
volumptousness and darkness and the intricacey is amazing. have you ever
seen a brothers quay film? they also did video animation for two his name
is alive songs. they're films are very witkinean. i suggest any fans of
4AD, which all of you should be, and fans of v23, again which all of you
should be, to see a brothers quay film. i copied a nice review from
the village voice about them on my web site. pretty soon i hope to have
the most info on the brothers quay on the net. that's not hard to do,
figuring that noone has written anything about these geniuses.
star vein