Subject: New Cocteau Album
Subject: Re: New Cocteau Album
Subject: Shaving CD
Subject: Re: [email protected] on Lush
Subject: Re: Shaving Seattle last night
Subject: Shaving the Pavement tape...
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins / Lush
Subject: Alanis rips the Cocteaux off?/music at Starbucks
Subject: Oasis is slightly thislisty because they're on Creation...
Subject: Re: Shaving Seattle last night
Subject: Re: Mojave3 in Austin?
Subject: Re: Rachel's help - a little late.
Subject: digest me
Subject: new Swirlies, new Tel Basta
Subject: Cocteau Twins / Lush
Subject: 1800 NO music now
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins / Lush
Subject: Attack of the 50 foot pop garbage! (no 4ad)
Subject: Bearz box set
Subject: Lush at Virgin Megastore SF
Subject: Re: New Cocteau Album
Subject: you call you listen you buy you sucker
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins / Lush
Subject: Re: Eyeless in Gaza/Pale Saints
Subject: stereolab comes to madtown
Subject: Re: Mojave3 in Austin?
Subject: Hidden Tracks?
Subject: Re: you call you listen you buy you sucker
Subject: Miki shaves the pavement but not her pits!
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 08:27:00 +0100
Please pardon this commercial intrusion, but I thought you'd like to know:
We will be selling the new Cocteau CD described as:
THE COCTEAU TWINS Milk And Kisses v. ltd BOX CD (UK) $xx.xx
"Liz's vocals are so gorgeous that those with sensitive constitutions may
find themselves in danger of passing out'"(WIRE) 15,000 of these only!!!
For $22.50 + p&h thru this Tuesday. (then the price pops to the proper
price of $24.95, if there are remaining copies)
It also appears that we will have UK copies of the vinyl for Milk and
Kisses for as little as $12.99.
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:17:38 +0600
Apr 1996 08:27:00 +0100
> THE COCTEAU TWINS Milk And Kisses v. ltd BOX CD (UK)
> $xx.xx
> "Liz's vocals are so gorgeous that those with sensitive
> constitutions may find themselves in danger of passing
> out'"(WIRE) 15,000 of these only!!!
>
>
> For $22.50 + p&h thru this Tuesday. (then the price pops
> to the proper price of $24.95, if there are remaining
> copies)
So! What else is in this "v. ltd Box CD" that won't be on the album? Does
anyone know? Please help us out. :)
-cz
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 09:49:09 -0700
Could someone post a physical description and tracklist of this so those of
us who want one know what to look for? Much appreciated!
the mystery parade / esoteric graphic design
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:58:26 -0400
.>>Anyone read the transcript of the Lush interview thing? It's like this:
.>> Emma = nice (She reminds me of Sandra Bullock)like the kinda
>> woman who you'd want to be your girlfriend. Normal, you
>> can take her home to meet the family.
>>
>> Miki = all attitude, bitchy and sarcastic. I don't know why
>> Emma doesn't just drop Miki. I used to think Miki was cool
>> but now she gets on my nerves... Miki even went on to
>> say how she went #1 in an alley once (can't you hold it!?!?)
>> I thought all english women were supposed to be prim and
>> proper....
>Oh-oh, not only did you dis two of the most popular 4AD people on this
>list, but you managed to do it with a very sexist slant. Not to mention
>the shallow cultural generalization.
He didn't actually 'dis' Emma tho'.
As for his HO of Miki - it just seemed to me that she's the sort of woman
who doesn't take any shit from anyone. All power to her.
And I've pissed in alleyways before now... Surely the fact that I'm male
and she's female should make NO difference?
>Let the wild flaming rumpus begin!
Well, not really... More like a gentle warming with a cigarette lighter in
my case
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 10:42:49 -0400
Whats on the Shaving the Pavement tour tape?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:43:15 +0200
Because this 'Shaving the Pavement' tour is US-only and I'm living in Europe...
Can someone - who is going to one of these concerts - get a copy of this
free promo-tape for me?
Please?
I will pay for p&p etc. (please don't make it a $20 hot item)
If want to help me: mail me...
thanks!
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, April 14, 1996
... [email protected]
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee/Catalogue/4AD.html
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:20:06 -0700
At 08:11 PM 4/13/96 -0700, you wrote:
> Listen I've seen some inexpensive CT cds in my local used music
>store. Now I didn't like "Heaven or Las Vegas" or "Ice Blink Luck", I
>was wondering if those two were typical of all their previous work or
>what. I think they had "Garlands" and "Blue Bell knoll" and another one
>which escapes memory. Should I spend the 10 bucks on those two? I don't
>know why I'm asking other peoples opinion on what I like and don't like
>but I got some good recomendations before so I'll try my luck again.
>
Wow, I can't believe you don't have any CT records prior to HOLV. I've seen
you're name on this list for a while, haven't you wondered what everybody
has been gushing about all this time? Since you've asked, BBK is pretty darn
swell, someone around these parts even named themselves after it (for
whatever that's worth). Garlands isn't my favorite, but if I didn't have it
and I could see the future to know what it sounded like I would definitely
buy it for $5.
>Anyone read the transcript of the Lush interview thing? It's like this:
>
> Emma = nice (She reminds me of Sandra Bullock)like the kinda
> woman who you'd want to be your girlfriend. Normal, you
> can take her home to meet the family.
>
> Miki = all attitude, bitchy and sarcastic. I don't know why
> Emma doesn't just drop Miki. I used to think Miki was cool
> but now she gets on my nerves. She needs a good booty
> whoopin' and a razor to shave her pits. Miki even went on to
> say how she went #1 in an alley once (can't you hold it!?!?)
> I thought all english women were supposed to be prim and
> proper, I guess Miki is like Pinky and Emma is The Brain.
>
Brian
Oh-oh, not only did you dis two of the most popular 4AD people on this list,
but you managed to do it with a very sexist slant. Not to mention the
shallow cultural generalization.
-Paul
Let the wild flaming rumpus begin!
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:19:52 -0400
>This has been mentioned in the Twins' Fan Forum at their site, I'm surprised
>no one on this list brought it up. What's up with that tunnel-effect on
>Alanis' vocals in her single "Ironic"? You know--the part that goes
>"(something, something)...everything blows up in your faaaayyyaaace..."
>It's is SOOOOO Cocteau Twins. Any fan that has heard that song is sure to
>recognize it. (Please don't think that I am in any way, shape, or form--a
>fan of Alanis.)
'S funny, I thought that too when I first heard it. I can't think what
Cocteaux songs have that sound, but I'm pretty sure they didn't invent that
effect themselves (is it a phaser or something?). I doubt Alanis even knows
the Cocteaux - after all, she hasn't even heard a single note of Sonic
Youth, apparently. Probably something her producer came up with. BTW, this
is not a defence of Alanis either.
>> Starbuck's has an awful lot of 4AD/thislisty stuff on their in-store
>> tapes. I've lost track of all the things I've heard --
>
>ugh... too bad you'd have to be in Starbucks to hear this stuff..., a
>place i consider to be anti-thislisty.
I've never heard anything remotely thislisty at Starbucks - usually they
play jazz at the one I go to, but last time I was there it was Crowded
House. Nor is Second Cup terribly thislisty either - it's usually Abba or
the Gipsy Kings there...
Larry
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 09:50:25 -0700
Has anyone seen the UK sitcom Mr. Bean? Doesn't Noel Gallager look like him?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:12:15 -0400
On Sat, 13 Apr 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> from what I've been hearing of the 2 shows so far in Vancouver and Seattle,
> it has only been the 3 headlining bands playing... i thought there was to be
> appearances by lisa germano, hnia (i know they'll be at the detroit and
> chicago shows)
how did you "know" this?
how do you know about hnia?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 02:30:02 -0500
At 05:44 PM 4/13/96 -0500, you wrote:
> Could someone in Austin confirm the Mojave3 date on 4/20?
> How can I get tickets? Thanks.
me too, please.
[sorry for posting this short message to the entire list]
-zelzah.
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:04:30 -0400
On Sat, 13 Apr 1996, bruce levenstein wrote:
> i just got a copy of Rachel's 'music for egon schiele' and i must say it's
> quite amazing. i was wondering how this compares with the 'handwriting' cd.
> i understand the previous cd involves many more musicians. if i like the
> new one, is it likely that i will like the other?
******************************************************************
please... everyone buy the rachel's music for egon schiele. this is a
must have disc. it is very beautiful, minimal, fully orchestrated,
classical, nyman meets preisner, and oh so good.
it has to be one of the best discs to be released in the last ten years.
the packaging is just amazing. it includes pictures from the underrated
german artist, egon schielle, and the disc also includes pictures from
the live presentation the music is from. the rachel's are from chicago.
the other rachel's recordings are great as well. every year i buy all my
good friends the same disc for x mas. it's the disc of the year
compliments of me. in the past cd's have included they might be giants,
original soundtrack to k.kieslowski's blue, his name is alive, sloan,
cardinal and this year unless someone else releases yet another classic
everyone is getting the rachel's. however, what might happen is that i will
talk all my friends into getting it i might have to give them something else.
maybe that new this mortal coil that is coming out. ha, i got you all
looking. i'm sorry, i shouldn't joke about that. plus ivo would probably
catch the 4ad fever and change his style like everyone else (lush,
slowdive three, eight minute guitar solo painters, etc.).
anyway, back to the rachel's.... give it a listen and respond !
record of the year!!!!!!
also has anyone mentioned yet another amazing record by SPAIN. ooooh, it is
kick-motherfucking-ass. it is so smooth and it blends genres to make a
velvety soft plush feeling. this is another disc that melts in your mouth
but not in your hand. think of nick drake meets mark eitzel meets some
whiskey in a smokey jazz bar in san francisco. yup, it's that good.
AND
does anyone have a clue if the two singers on
this mortal coil's blood album are in bands or do they
sing on anything else? i really like their voices. i'm not
talking about t.donnelly or k.deal either.
anyway...there is my six cents worth,
star vein
and i have a new web-zine coming soon...
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 20:31:05 -0700
Could someone please tell me how to switch my subscription to the digest-mode?
I've tried to follow the instructions given on the listserv commands page, but
either I'm not understanding correctly or something's screwed up.
Thanks
Jon Drahn
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 21:58:12 -0700
Whoever recommended the new Swirlies album, good call! It is
indeed quite wonderful and I'm close to giddy after hearing it
just once. Even with half the band replaced, they still sound as
delightfully noisy and offbeat as they did on the landmark
Blonder Tongue Audio Baton. And it struck me that describing them
as a combination of Unrest and My Bloody Valentine would get people
thinking in the right direction. For the record here is the full
title of the new album: "They spent their wild and youthful days
in the glittering world of the salons". It's on TAANG! records.
The soup is ON!
A complete surprise also came in the form of a new Tel Basta album.
They had a bit of a following on this list years ago. Starting off with a
track on one of the C'est La Mort compilations, they did a self-released album,
covered "I Melt With You" on Thurtene, then put out Laid Up In Lavendar
on C'est La Mort (a damn fine album, scored 19 out of 22, and tied with
M1 Alternative's "The Little Threshing Floor" as our highest rated CLM release)
After that I heard nothing at all from them, and figured they must have
broken up or something. But today I find the new album "Lickerish" in the used
bins. It's got the same trio of musicians as ever, providing the same general
sound that will have people thinking "Dead Can Dance" and "Eden": exotic
percussion, Eastern melodies, violin, female vocalist (named Pine, you might
recall). However the mood this time is darker and maybe a little less lush,
with a harder edge to it. I haven't digested the CD fully yet but much of it
leaves me a little uneasy, something that will probably diminish when I get
used to their less pretty/blissful direction. You can find this album on
Circular Reasoning PO Box 170277, San Francisco, CA 94117-0277. Or write to
the band at PO Box 170034, San Francisco, CA 94117-0034. They're nice people
and they will definitely answer your mail.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 20:11:30 -0700
Listen I've seen some inexpensive CT cds in my local used music
store. Now I didn't like "Heaven or Las Vegas" or "Ice Blink Luck", I
was wondering if those two were typical of all their previous work or
what. I think they had "Garlands" and "Blue Bell knoll" and another one
which escapes memory. Should I spend the 10 bucks on those two? I don't
know why I'm asking other peoples opinion on what I like and don't like
but I got some good recomendations before so I'll try my luck again.
Anyone read the transcript of the Lush interview thing? It's like this:
Emma = nice (She reminds me of Sandra Bullock)like the kinda
woman who you'd want to be your girlfriend. Normal, you
can take her home to meet the family.
Miki = all attitude, bitchy and sarcastic. I don't know why
Emma doesn't just drop Miki. I used to think Miki was cool
but now she gets on my nerves. She needs a good booty
whoopin' and a razor to shave her pits. Miki even went on to
say how she went #1 in an alley once (can't you hold it!?!?)
I thought all english women were supposed to be prim and
proper, I guess Miki is like Pinky and Emma is The Brain.
Brian
P.S. I'd also like to give a razor to Liam Gallager (Oasis) so he can
fix that damn thing on his head.
Damn thing = that big eyebrow.
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 21:44:44 -0400
Brant:
I share your disamy with 1800MusicNow.
I work in the 'interactive' dept. for the
ad agency that does the
1800MusicNow Web site (MCI is the agency's
main client in addition to others)
And yeah, it does suck....
Some of us at the ad agency all know that the Web site
in no way compares to the others
out there (CDnow, CDconnection -- well, you
telnet there, but it's still a great operation,
Music Blvd. etc.). I guess this means
a telecommunications co. like
MCI should reconsider entering
a market they know little about.
I don't know what the problem
is, but it's either MCI doesn't know that
they have to deal with more distributors
to broaden the selection, or they don't
know how to position the "brand,"
e.g., who should they try to target
this service at.
It's definitely not for serious music
fans like those on 4AD-L.
It's for people who just heard
"Wonderwall" and don't
give a damn what else is on the Oasis LP,
they just want that "neato 'Wonderwall'
record!" (said in the voice of a dippy
teen queen or vibrant house wife -- does that
species of woman even exist anymore?).
And as Brant has alluded
to, the prices are not "competitive," e.g.,
they suck as well.
-B
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:36:33 EDT
> Emma = nice (She reminds me of Sandra Bullock)like the kinda
> woman who you'd want to be your girlfriend. Normal, you
> can take her home to meet the family.
>
> Miki = all attitude, bitchy and sarcastic. I don't know why
> Emma doesn't just drop Miki. I used to think Miki was cool
> but now she gets on my nerves. She needs a good booty
> whoopin' and a razor to shave her pits. Miki even went on to
> say how she went #1 in an alley once (can't you hold it!?!?)
> I thought all english women were supposed to be prim and
> proper, I guess Miki is like Pinky and Emma is The Brain.
>
> Brian
You sexist asshole. Shaved your armpits lately? And why not throw in a nice
stupid stereotype about the English while you're at it. Personally I DON'T think
all American men are misogynist neanderthals - but there are exceptions.
- Dez
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 19:50:34 -0700
I got some CD's I sent away for (one of those buy one get nine
free) anyway here is what I got and a short review to follow.
Chris Issak's "Heart Shaped World"- sucked. probably the only man I'd
ever have sex with though. Boring
Joy Division "permanent" - best of collection, not bad for something
released in the 70's. And I thought it was all disco crap then.
Tears for Fears "Tears Roll Down" - the 80's really sucked! Boring.
Real McCoy "Another Night" - here i thought this was gonna be techno,
it is but......Another shitty pop album. BORING!
Beastie Boys "Check Your Head" - not so boring, but yet not as cool as
"Paul's Botique" Not bad.
Expose "Greatest Hits"- HH
JJH
JHADFJKADFA
fFfFFDSjHJhJHJg GFGtHThThis is undoubtably the BEST CD I OWN! I love
this. "Seasons chayaynge" *snif*. If you don't own it get it. I think
the lead singer looks like Miki Berenyi only with normal hair. I love
this. Anyone what to start a Tiffiny list (just kidding).
One more thing, anyone notice that LL Cool J always wears a hat?
Brian
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 1980 04:45:05 -0500
Sorry 'bout that! I had to get your attention somehow... THIS IS A
REVISED LETTER REGARDING THE 4AD AUCTION I POSTED ON APRIL 9. Well, the
auction has turned into a sale. First come, first served and prices
include postage. Call or e-mail to reserve...
TWP 1 THE WOLFGANG PRESS
Time
UK 12" Promo Features remixes not found on
$8.00US "Queer" or BAD 1003!
TWP 3 THE WOLFGANG PRESS
Mama/Sucker
UK 12" Promo The same 12" included with copies
$8.00US of the "Queer" vinyl CAD 1011.
TWP 4 THE WOLFGANG PRESS
Remixes Number One
UK 12" Promo Several great remixes from "Funky
$8.00US Little Demons". Neat v23 sleeve!
TWP 5 THE WOLFGANG PRESS
Remixes Number Two
UK 12" Promo More "Funky" remixes. A great
$8.00US companion piece to TWP 4. Cool!
SCHEER 1 SCHEER
Demon/Howling Boy
UK 7" Promo First Scheer release on 4AD. This
$7.00US includes two demo versions!
All e-mails will be answered. Please be patient, I'm using a friends
computer and I may not check my mail for several days at a time. The
auction was turned into a sale as a result of the many postings
regarding auctions and the overall high prices charged for promos. I
don't want to gouge any collectors with unfair prices as it gets away
from why I got into 4AD for in the first place; the love of the music!
- Jeff Keibel e-mail: [email protected] phone: (416) 422-2427
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:56:00 -0700
Lush will be doing a signing at the Virgin Megastore, San Francisco, on
Monday, April 15 (that's tomorrow) at 6pm. Located at 2 Stockton, corner
of Market.
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:47:06 -0700
On Sun, 14 Apr 1996, cz wrote:
> > THE COCTEAU TWINS Milk And Kisses v. ltd BOX CD (UK)
> > $xx.xx
> > "Liz's vocals are so gorgeous that those with sensitive
> > constitutions may find themselves in danger of passing
> > out'"(WIRE) 15,000 of these only!!!
> >
> >
> > For $22.50 + p&h thru this Tuesday. (then the price pops
> > to the proper price of $24.95, if there are remaining
> > copies)
>
>
> So! What else is in this "v. ltd Box CD" that won't be on the album? Does
> anyone know? Please help us out. :)
>
> -cz
>
i talked to someone at siren disc a while back, and they said that there
are no bonus tracks, simply the limitd. edition packaging - whatever that
means.
joel
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 14:15:21 -0700
On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Dewdrops Records wrote:
> "you call, you don't find anything you want, and if you do
> the price is $15.99+, you give up, you go to your local store
> instead, where they've at least heard of the Cocteau Twins."
What exactly were you looking for? If you are a Cocteau Twins newbie, I'm
sure someone here can give you some pointers :)
> They've got a long way to go before they're worth anything.
It's worth at least the price of the 800 call to hear the words "Aphex
Twin" spoken in a big manly Monster Trucks! voice. APhex Twin! Icct
Hedral! Comin' at ya! ARRRR!!!!
Honestly, it is a rather useful tool for making sure one wants nothing to
do with overhyped bands. I believe this saved me from Massive Attack,
among others.
einexile
(I hate hidden tracks.)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 03:21:02 -0400
On Sat, 13 Apr 1996, Scott, Mari & Brian wrote:
> Listen I've seen some inexpensive CT cds in my local used music
> store. Now I didn't like "Heaven or Las Vegas" or "Ice Blink Luck"
***what? do you have the same ear canals leading to your brain? how can
you dislike heaven or las vegas?***
> I was wondering if those two were typical of all their previous work or
> what.
yup, they are typical of their work. they're all good. well, you most
likely won't like them... hey, i don't get it???
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 02:11:17 -0400
Martin wrote:
> It also features a track called "Pale Saints". Can anyone
>verify that this is where Ian et al. got the name from?
That's where they got the name from, yes. From what I've heard, the Pale
Saints actually formed out of mutual admiration for Eyeless in Gaza.
As for the recent "Drumming"/"Pale Hands" reissue, it's existence is nothing
short of a miracle. The latter album was released only in Norway, only on
vinyl, in some ridiculously low number, and about a zillion years ago.
There's a little distortion in the transfer, yes, but it adds to the warm and
crackling organic feel of EiG's music.
As a recent EiG devotee (who can't seem to find enough of the stuff to sate
his hunger for their one-of-a-kind sound), I can't recommend the band enough.
They come across like a more windswept and romantic AR Kane. Very fragile
guitars, wheezing and burbling keyboards, an occasional dulcimer or chime,
and Martyn Bates' amazingly expressive vocals. His voice is a bit of a shock
at first. It seems so overpowering in the light of EiG's delicate musical
backing. But it grows on you and becomes quite addictive. Bates' lyrics are
rife with photographic/poetic images, though they sometimes sound a little
pretentious and overblown if you're in the 'wrong' mood. Just be sure to
approach his (substantial) lyrical gifts with a very open mind.
The band became progressively more 'normal' (the earlier the EiG, the more
spellbinding the music) - but even their poppy stuff has its own unmistakable
charms.
Definitely a 4AD-type band. I'm surprised Ivo never signed them back when
"4AD" meant something...
Does anyone know where to find Bates' collaboration with Mick Harris, "Murder
Ballads (Drift)"? I've been looking for that one (unsuccessfully) everywhere.
Please e-mail me if you can offer any help.
"before you go, will you tell me what you're thinking?..."
GuerillaG -unusually garrulous this weekend
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 02:21:01 CST
it's official. . .stereolab are playing at the paramount (that's in madison,
wi) on may 8 or 9 (i can't remember which day is minneapolis and which day
is here). opening band is cornershop (or something like that), and tickets
are a paltry $10 (but sadly not available yet). if anyone cares, i'm going
to try to interview them for the cardinal, so if any of you music industry
listies know their booking agency, help would be appreciated (otherwise i'll
have to go through the paramount, not that that's difficult). well, since
only about 8 people on this list care about this, i'll shut up now. i'm
excited and i had to tell someone.
BiZ, who just watched "falling down," a very weird film
"you can't meet the duke, nobody meets the duke, you meet him once and then
you're dead. . ."
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:05:35 -0500
Mojave 3 and Scheer will both play sans lush on April 20 at the Electric
Lounge. I have no idea how much tickets are or what time the door opens.
Atleast now you can call information. (512)
-=thrine=-
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:29:23 -0700
Can anyone recall any hidden tracks off of 4AD stuff off the top of their
head? The only hidden tracks I've ever heard are Danzig's Mother '93 and
Sarah McLaughlin's Possession. Asking in case I missed anything.