4ad-l Mail for 04-11-1996

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Subject: Re: Auction Update #5: 4AD + listy...REDUCED!
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:39:10 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Bleddyn = Belinda?
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:56:57 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: New LUSH
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:06:00 PST
From: NAME: Kennedy Cosker
Subject: hi!!!!! please bid on something!!!!! ;) (not much 4ad content,
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:09:35 -0600
From: wumberlog (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: New LUSH
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:21:31 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:47:45 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Dance-o-rama...
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:28:19 -0400
From: liles melissa m (mmlile@FACSTAFF.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dance-o-rama...
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:45:57 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:41:55 -0500
From: ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM
Subject: free stuff
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:49:23 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:15:57 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets anyone?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:30:32 -0700
From: karl.hallgrimsson@ASU.EDU
Subject: Auctionetiquette (Re: hi!!!!! please bid on something!!!!! )
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:06:05 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: nearing the end of "h" in my alph. cd tour
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:04:04 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: THIS IS NOT AN AUCTION!
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:02:52 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Scheer
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:11:32 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: speaking of grocery stores..
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:34 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleddyn = Belinda?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:31 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Shox
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:29 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: New 4AD stuff:
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:01:25 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:34:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: New Swirlies Album
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:21:54 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: May I propose a new rule about auctions?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:54:27 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: NEW ESP Beetles cassette
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:28:47 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:48:58 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein (mps2@CEC.WUSTL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets anyone?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:31:20 -0700
From: Lori Udell (psu07533@ODIN.CC.PDX.EDU)
Subject: New Swirlies Album
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:26:47 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: messiah
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:22:28 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: more mojave appearances
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:54 -0400
From: John Cellura (bcrayon@EN.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:59:35 -0300
From: Rodrigo de Sousa Lariu (mmlariu@copa.rio.com.br)
Subject: Re: New Swirlies Album
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:00:51 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Twin Cities Accents (no-4AD Content)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:43:08 -0700
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: In The Nursey fans
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:42:08 -0700
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: P5/Chapter House/Spooky/E.B.T.G./Auctions
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:45:25 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: nearing the end of "h" in my alph. cd tour
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:15:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Jumping onto the Auction bashing bandwagon...
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:46:29 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Dracula's daughter lost her voice!
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:47:18 -0700
From: "Karl V. Hallgrimsson" (karl.hallgrimsson@ASU.EDU)
Subject: Mojave 3
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:51:11 -0400
From: "les pierres, les arbres, les murs..." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: S*W*I*R*L*I*E*S
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:18:25 -0700
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Stereolab: TR-NBw/A
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:18:00 PDT
From: "Heileson, Thomas" (heilts1@MPE11.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Re: free stuff
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:37 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: mojave 3
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:32 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Combustible Edison
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:05:00 PDT
From: "Heileson, Thomas" (heilts1@MPE11.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:40 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:39:10 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Auction Update #5: 4AD + listy...REDUCED!


In addition to many other things, Roy Burns had for sale:

> **BREEDERS: "Safari" CD5; 4AD / Elektra; cat. no. 66432
> minimum bid: $7
> currrent bidder: -none-

So nice to see you've reduced the price from $10 on this one, but I
wonder what makes you think a used, domestic ep which is still in
print (I believe) and should cost new $5 or $6 is worth $7 (or $10
for that matter)?

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:56:57 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Bleddyn = Belinda?


Just happenned to be perusing the eyesore database when I came across
this little bit of info:

0002 Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness
...
leeve by Vaughan Oliver, Christopher Bigg, Sarah Tucker and
          Bleddyn Butcher.

Clicking on Bleddyn Butcher revealed the following info:

Bleddyn Butcher

     sleeve
          202 The Birthday Party / Lydia Lunch - Drunk On The Pope's
          Blood / The Agony Is The Ecstacy 301 The Birthday Party -
          The Bad Seed NONBP1 The Birthday Party - Mutiny 0002 Pale
          Saints - The Comforts Of Madness

Somehow I doubt this is Belinda:)

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:06:00 PST
From: Kennedy Cosker (coskerk%scruzhsa.uucp@SCRUZ.UCSC.EDU)
Subject: New LUSH


From: NAME: Kennedy Cosker FUNC: Information Services TEL: 454-4680 Okay what do we all think about this new LUSH??? I have just listened to the 2 new EPs and feel a bit disoriented. I still connot listen to LOVELIFE all the way through. Gone is most of the magic that originally brought me to LUSH. Those thick guitar shrouded dissonant vocal experiences. It all sounds very thin and weak now. I was introduced via SCAR and would blast my neighbors/sound system. The power of the guitars/mix/vocals was pretty ecstatic. SPLIT was like an orgasm! A LUSH dream come true. The production and songs were great. I have loved all the incarnations of Cocteau Twins. I really reacted to 4CC at first listens. It became one of my favorites. So now this new LUSH sound...Will I love it soon? I am waaaaiting. hmmm. Kennedy PS Does anyone dance to the Cocteau Twins?

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:09:35 -0600
From: wumberlog (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: hi!!!!! please bid on something!!!!! ;) (not much 4ad content,

              but definitely thislisty)

hi. i'm selling these items!!!!! i will be selling them for the next four
months, so if you per chance don't read this post, don't worry because i'll
be posting hourly updates!!!!!! :)

please note the reduced, rock-bottom prices of all items!!!!!!!!

highest bidder must pay all postage, including COD, federal express,
priority mail, par avion, plus a bag of something that i can weigh with my
'postage scale' before i smoke it in my 'tobacco waterpipe.'

bidders will be updated as necessary, MAKING UPDATES TO THE LIST COMPLETELY
USELESS!!!! (but i'll post 'em anyway, because i went to the roy burns
school of nettiquette)


slowdive - blue day (autographed by neil halstead whilst on heroin)
minimum bid: $100


the orb - live 93 (includes bits of weed from a j shared with dr.alex)
minimum bid: $57


tori amos - silent all these years limited edition (plus, she slobbered on
it for me)
minimum bid: $250.72


beatles - abbey road (nothing unique, just the american cd)
minimum bid: $25


loveliescrushing - xuvetyn (you'll never find this anywhere bwahahahah!)
minimum bid, copies 1-1500: $20


global communication - pentamerous metamorphosis (scratched to the point of
uselessness, but this way at least you can say you have it!)
minimum bid: $60


moist - silver (ultra-rare version without a promo stamp/holepunch/cutout)
minimum bid: $.99


larry 'alanis love slave for life' koch gets first bid on the moist. :)

please mail all bids to: jens@mooseyard.com with the subject '4ad FAQ Comments'

thanks so much, i hope to sucker you out of cash, oh i mean do business
with you!

---

you like, take a buck or two off it and i'll sell it to ya for that. i
won't be able to update the rock-bottom prices for another day or two, but
just about each one will get a $1-5 price reduction. i just want to get rid
of this stuff, no $30 minimum bids here. =)

plug plug plug
.joanna.

---
joroses@mail.utexas.edu             http://piglet.cc.utexas.edu/~joanna

There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
Coincidence?


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:21:31 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: New LUSH


On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Kennedy Cosker wrote:

>     Okay what do we all think about this new LUSH???

Well, it's nothing like Gala of course, which is my heart n soul, but
i like the new stuff as well.  the beautiful melodies and awesome
chord changes are still there, still keeping the lush sound despite the
absence of swishiness.


>     I have just listened to the 2 new EPs and feel a bit disoriented. I
>     still connot listen to LOVELIFE all the way through. Gone is most of
>     the magic that originally brought me to LUSH. Those thick guitar
>     shrouded dissonant vocal experiences. It all sounds very thin and weak
>     now. I was introduced via SCAR and would blast my neighbors/sound

wait a minute.. you don't get any thrill out of "dear me"?  that's pretty
spooky-ish imo.  i adore that track...and Plums and Oranges, that's a
gem too- it's got elements of Gala in it (nice dissonances), and the words
aren't as cut-throat as the lovelife lyrics are...

>     system. The power of the guitars/mix/vocals was pretty ecstatic. SPLIT
>     was like an orgasm! A LUSH dream come true. The production and songs
>     were great.

funny, i don't consider SPLIT the height of their swirliness. but yeah it
is great anyways...i am a mad love veteran myself and altho i embrace
that and scar and the for love ep, i don't mind the new stuff...


>     PS Does anyone dance to the Cocteau Twins?

hmmm...maybe "dance" isn't a good word. "pitch the baby" usually gets me
kinda moving tho, in a hoppity sort of way.


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:47:45 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??


I used to play "Rococo" from  Aikea Guinea, and people always managed to
prance around. "From the Flagstones" also elicited strange swaying motions.
But I've seen people dancing to Dead Can Dance's " Xavier" as well as attempting
Michael Brook. Nothing stranger than watching people storming to Ministry and
Birthday Party and then suddenly applying brakes to sway to "Urbana".

I suppose if poeple *think*  they've got the rhythm, they go for it..........

No problems for MARRS and Xymox though

Chris


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:28:19 -0400
From: liles melissa m (mmlile@FACSTAFF.WM.EDU)
Subject: Dance-o-rama...


...I ALWAYS sing and dance my ass off to the CoCteaU TwIns...granted
the dance is sort of an animated version of Bradd Pitt's jerky motions
in "12 Monkeys" AND when I sing I just sort of make a lot of vowel
sounds and roll my r's...
...as for DEAD can DANCE, that puts me into a sort of Twyla
Tharp/Masai tribesman kind of mode...
...I also love to dance to the Crane's first album (ala Martha
Graham)...
        M-wissy


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:45:57 +0100
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Dance-o-rama...


You can dance to anything, if you put your mind to it.

Casting my mind back to early 1992, I clearly recall the
audience moshing furiously and stagediving to, of all
things, Lush's performance of "Monochrome" at the T&C
(as it was then) in London.

Still, as to whether such activities could be considered
dancing is another can of worms entirely...

BTW, my final Lovelife the Tour report is a week late, I
know, but WILL be posted later today (promise).



Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:41:55 -0500
From: ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??


There are a couple of clubs in my home town (Jax, Fla) that used
to (when I lived there, at least) play several Cocteau Twins tunes
on a regular basis, that all generally elicited MUCH dancing.
"Wax and Wane", "Lorelei", "Carolyn's Fingers", "A Kissed Out
Red Floatboat", "Iceblink Luck", "Heaven or Las Vegas", and
"Bluebeard".  I think I even got them to play "Because of Whirl-
Jack" and "Kookaburra" once.  Ah...those were the days...


Mike
iceblink@delphi.com

(Who now lives in Boston, where only one club plays the Cocs
now and then...they DID play "Bluebeard" and "Need-Fire" a few
times)


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:49:23 -0400
From: captain dave (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: free stuff


hey, if any of you out there are fledgling entrepeneurs (sp) in the music
business and want to save a few bucks i've got a pile of mailers about
six feet high (and rising). they are mostly those 10"*7" size, but it
really varies. i work at a radio station so i get tons of these and i
hate to throw them away. all i ask in return is that 1)you refund the
miniscule amount of postage it will cost to send this stuff and 2)send my
radio station whatever it is you're putting out. this is the mythical
win-win situation here, kiddoes.
for------------99 cents! it's called "no turning back". this is the same
shox that's on 4ad, no?
email me personally about the packaging: desarg@mail.wm.edu
toodles,
dave


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:15:57 -0600
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??


oh, yes!

i actually think nothing is better than dancing to the cocteaux.  i used
to dj at a not-so-friendly neighborhood goth club, and nothing would
brighten things up a li'l like 'orange appled'. :)  the other dj and i
were always pressing the, ummm...customers to get into to something
besides the sisters and siouxsie, but little of it worked.  they frowned
on slowdive and just about everything else we tried.  for god's sake, it
took them 2 years to admit that and also the trees are fabulous (imagine
playing 'shaletown' or 'sickness divine' night after night only to have
someone come up and say, 'is this nick cave?'.  okay, they both have deep
voices, but come on!  all right, i'm done ranting....)

this brings me to another topic, the aformentioned other dj and i were
talking about this a few weeks ago.  do you, as someone who's passionate
about the music you like and as someone who's always searching for
something new, feel the absolute need to spread the word?  when you meet
someone who has similar tastes but hasn't heard some of the bands you
like do you run home, make them a tape and practically force it into
their ear?  are you depressingly disappointed when the say something
like, 'oh yeah, i thought it was pretty good...' in an indifferent voice?

okay....i'll shut up now.

must it be so windy out???

----------------------------------------
.mark. (vonminde@rintintin.Colorado.EDU)

now w/silly website:

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:30:32 -0700
From: karl.hallgrimsson@ASU.EDU
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets anyone?

          babble@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu

I saw them here in Phoenix and they put on a really good show. It sounds
as though they play the same set every night. Hmmmmmm.

On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, anaconda wrote:

> At 12:29 AM 4/10/96 -0500, Michael S Kilgour wrote:
> >Sorry about the non-Cure content, but I was just wondering if anyone is
> >going to the Love and Rockets show in Minneapolis tomorrow?  If so drop me
> >a line as I'd love to meet some fellow Babblers.
>
> Speaking of...
>
> I had the fine opportunity to see them perform last night at the Metro here
> in grand ole Chicago, IL....they opened the set with the Hot Trip to Heaven
> song playing in the background. When the band took the stage, Mr. ash came
> out looking very similar to a mr. bono (ala U2)..quite funny.
>
> They opened with a very rocked up version of Ball Of Confusion..wow!
> Other highlights were a housy version of No New Tale To Tell, a stretched
> out Clean off the new album, a cover of an old Rock classic (rock on I think).
.
> which was the highlight in terms of odd musical sounds up to that point.
>
> The true highlight was when David said "here is something from  _another_ band
> that _this_ band has NEVER covered anything by"...and they proceeded to play
> Slice of Life (from Bauhaus for those of you that do not
> know)...wow...absolutely
> brilliant! Overall, the show was very good, the band seemed to really be
> enjoying
> themselves on stage for a change and the crowd was good!
>
> See them!
>
> bob
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>     Fire, let it burn, Fire, see how it feels...Forthcoming Fire
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:06:05 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Auctionetiquette (Re: hi!!!!! please bid on something!!!!! )


Point taken.

Of course, this point could have been made privately. Posting it to the list
was hypocritical (since one of the points of contention was that my posting
of matters concerning only a few parties, was posted to everyone on the list)
and unnecessary, as was the overall tone of it. It not only insults me as a
person, which is, again, uncalled for, but implies to everyone that did
participate, that they were "suckered" or "ripped-off". How do you think that
makes them feel?

My auction prices were based on the prices I payed for these items and prices
that I've seen the same items for in record collecting publications such as
"Goldmine", which will no doubt differ from the prices that they should go
for or that some of you might have payed or have seen them for. I, and those
who participated in my auction, who signaled this through their
participation, saw nothing unfair about them.

Some of the items, the Spiritualized disc for example, I paid $35 for. This
was the beginning minimum. Because I needed money, I lowered it to $30 and
sold it for that price, which, if you do the math, is less than what I paid
for it. I have seen this CD for upwards of $45 and as low as $16.

Another of the items up for bids which one, and probably more of you, had
problems with, the Princess Dragonmom disc, went to someone who has
personally contacted me to defend the purchase in light of some of the
remarks that have been posted.

No one was forced to participate in this auction (although I concede that
everyone was forced to follow it, and for this only I apologize; this will
not happen in future auctions) and if those that did wish to contend their
final prices, I invite them to do so privately.

Auctions and auction prices are something that will, no doubt, continue to be
the source of much disagreement on this list. Some people loathe them.
Others, like myself, have stayed subscribed to this list almost solely for
the chance that they may be able to obtain an item--rare or not, in print or
deleted--that they couldn't have gotten otherwise due to geographic location,
ignorance of the existence of such items, or even just plain laziness at the
prospect of having to hunt them down.

Contrary to the picture painted of me, I am in no way laughing all the way to
the bank. Truth be told, I'm actually using the proceeds to fund my tuition
costs...

at the Joanna School of Netiquette.

Respectfully yours,

Roy Burns


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:04:04 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: nearing the end of "h" in my alph. cd tour


>i don't know how many people on this list would have hole's "pretty on the
>inside" but i was listening to it today for the first time in probably 3
>years
>and was freaked out to hear the music for "dark entries" with hole lyrics.
> the
>song is "mrs. jones" and the music is exact.  i must have been out of the
>room


__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
            Some outside and some indoors--
            Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:02:52 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: THIS IS NOT AN AUCTION!


This is NOT a sale either!

This is merely an appraisal.  I was recently lucky enough to acquire a
copy of '92 ... and dog bones too' and was wondering what people on the
list would think this little gem is worth.

Anyone? Anyone?

email me privately so as not to clog the list.

thanks!

Strick9

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:11:32 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Scheer


Got 'Wish You Were Dead', the new Scheer ep today. The lead song isn't a patch
on 'Shea'. It's a fairly pedestrian rock track, with little in the way of a
memorable tune as salvation. Track two is an acoustic reading of 'Sad Loved
Girl' which is rather sweet. There follows a cover of Blondie's 'Hanging On The
Telephone' which is transformed from a bright pop-punk song into a gruesome slab
of mid-paced grunge, with all the cliches intact of quiet bits followed by
chugger-chugger guitars. I hope it's tongue-in-cheek. The ep is rounded off by
an instrumental, 'Cannon', which is probably the best track. Very rawk, but
strangely compelling. Not an essential buy by any means, but as trad-rock goes
Scheer are about as good as you get.

Dez


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:34 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: speaking of grocery stores..


>i was minding my own damned business the other day in the grocery store
>and what do i hear? a muzak rendition of a track from "four calendar
>cafe"

a muzak rendition? how was it different then? :-)

Dez

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:31 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleddyn = Belinda?


Bleddyn Butcher is a Welsh freelance photographer who does a lot of work in the
UK music press.

Dez

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:30:29 EDT
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Shox


> i got a shox 7" the other day on beggars banquet
>for------------99 cents! it's called "no turning back". this is the same
>shox that's on 4ad, no?

You got a bargain there - it is the same Shox - the same record in fact (Axis
4). It was released in 1980 as part of an initial batch of four singles on the
Axis label, a subsidiary of Beggar's Banquet which was to become 4AD. I didn't
know any of them were pressed up with Beggar's labels. What's the cat. no?
(Apologies for being anoraky here). By the way, the record's crap, but an Axis
label copy fetches around a tenner here (15 USD)

Dez

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:01:25 -0700
From: Sex Dwarf! (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: New 4AD stuff:


Wish You Were Dead - Scheer

This is probably my favorite Scheer ep to date.
Wish You Were Dead is, im(not-so)ho, one of Scheer's best, and the remake
of Hanging on the Telephone is, um.... interesting, to say the least.
But what's with the pig fetuses? or is it feti?

Ciao! - Lush

This is just a one song promo cd, but the cover is great.  You finally
get the BAND holding that wicked new logo, as well as a shopping cart, et al.
Hey, Lush!  The cat. no. on this is Lush 7 cd.

And what's with the new packaging?  The Infliction cd as well as all
of the Lush vinyl have that lovely sticker that makes you think 'wow, if
I never opened this, it would be worth a LOT of money someday.' and then
you go out and buy a second copy so you can actually HEAR what you think
will be making you a mint in the future. :)

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:34:00 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE

              MOJAVE

mojave three will play at repeat the beat in royal oak, michigan for an
in-store performance the same day as the "shaving the pavement" tour
rolls into detroit at saint andrews hall on may fifth. the in-store
performance starts at five p.m.
star vein

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:21:54 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: New Swirlies Album


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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:54:27 -0700
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: May I propose a new rule about auctions?


Hi all,

My tolerance level is usually pretty high, but three auction updates
from the same person in one day pushed me over the threshold, I
guess.  First of all, I have no problem with auctions, making money
off the net, or selling old rekids on the list.  Indeed, I am guilty
of all three.  HOWEVER, posting lots of auction lists to folks who
probably could care less seems a bit... erm... impolite.  So, I
propose a new rule:

If you want to have an auction on 4AD-L, post the initial list and
then post updates *only* to folks who wish to participate in the
auction.  Leave the rest of us out of it.

Case in point:  When Brant recently auctioned off some stuff, I
believe he did this.  I was in the auction, but the posts about
that Bugbears seven-inch that I bought only went to those of us
who expressed an interest.

I admit this makes it more work for the auctioneer.  (You have to
maintain the possibly large list of email addresses.)  But, hey,
you're trying to make some money here, so maybe it SHOULD be a
little work (Ubiquitous Interenet Make.Money.Fast schemes aside

Dallas on April 21. If you want more info on this, you can go to:

Reality
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:28:47 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: NEW ESP Beetles cassette


I heard the new ESP Beetles tape today.  It's not officially out until next week
 i think, but it's good.  I thought it would be all noise, which one side is, bu
 the other is more of a beautiful noise:  drums, bells, chimes, nice, relaxed fe
dback.  Quite relaxing, actually.  Check it out.
Matt

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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:48:58 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein (mps2@CEC.WUSTL.EDU)
Subject: Re: MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE MOJAVE

              MOJAVE MOJAVE

I'll be interviewing Mojave 3 on May 10 (my b-day) while they're in St. Louis.
If anyone wants any specific questions answered let me know (not that I don't
have enough myself!)

-Mike Stein
 mps2@cec.wustl.edu

PS Any comments on Lush's cover of "Mannequin" on the Wire tribute LP.

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:31:20 -0700
From: Lori Udell (psu07533@ODIN.CC.PDX.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets anyone?

          Michael S Kilgour , babble@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu

I saw them in Portland, OR on March 17, sounds like the exact same set.
They were exceptional.  Much better live than I remembered them to be.
See them if you have the chance.

On Thu, 11 Apr 1996 karl.hallgrimsson@asu.edu wrote:

> I saw them here in Phoenix and they put on a really good show. It sounds
> as though they play the same set every night. Hmmmmmm.
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, anaconda wrote:
>
> > At 12:29 AM 4/10/96 -0500, Michael S Kilgour wrote:
> > >Sorry about the non-Cure content, but I was just wondering if anyone is
> > >going to the Love and Rockets show in Minneapolis tomorrow?  If so drop me
> > >a line as I'd love to meet some fellow Babblers.
> >
> > Speaking of...
> >
> > I had the fine opportunity to see them perform last night at the Metro here
> > in grand ole Chicago, IL....they opened the set with the Hot Trip to Heaven
> > song playing in the background. When the band took the stage, Mr. ash came
> > out looking very similar to a mr. bono (ala U2)..quite funny.
> >
> > They opened with a very rocked up version of Ball Of Confusion..wow!
> > Other highlights were a housy version of No New Tale To Tell, a stretched
> > out Clean off the new album, a cover of an old Rock classic (rock on I think
...
> > which was the highlight in terms of odd musical sounds up to that point.
> >
> > The true highlight was when David said "here is something from  _another_ ba
d
> > that _this_ band has NEVER covered anything by"...and they proceeded to play
> > Slice of Life (from Bauhaus for those of you that do not
> > know)...wow...absolutely
> > brilliant! Overall, the show was very good, the band seemed to really be
> > enjoying
> > themselves on stage for a change and the crowd was good!
> >
> > See them!
> >
> > bob
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >     Fire, let it burn, Fire, see how it feels...Forthcoming Fire
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:26:47 -700
From: sapna patel (spatel1@SHRIKE.DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: New Swirlies Album


The New Swirlies record is UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!  For those of you who don't have
it, get it!  And for those of you who dismiss the Swirlies as a "Until the next 
BV album comes out" type band, then you HAVE to listen to this.  The Swirlies so
nd NOTHING like MBV.  The drum machine songs Damon uses are sooooo beautiful!  I
can go on forever about how well this record flows, and how every single song is
beautiful, and how it's the best record I've heard in years, but you MUST listen
for yourselves.  This album proves my point that the Swirlies are the best un-lo
ed band EVER.  And when i say un-loved, i say that to people who dismiss them as
MBV wannabe's.  I love 'em, though!!!!!
Matt
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:22:28 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: messiah


has anyone here heard temple of dreams by messiah?  they're kind of a
crappy band, imo, but that song is really cool and it samples tmc ("did i
dream, you dreamed about me?")

curious,

BiZ


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:54 -0400
From: John Cellura (bcrayon@EN.COM)
Subject: more mojave appearances


mojave will also be doing an in-store performance at Bent Crayon Records in
Cleveland Oh on the same day as their Cleveland show.  Rachel wants to do
it, but WB recs. seem to have other plans.  REgardless, it will happen.

john/c

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:59:35 -0300
From: Rodrigo de Sousa Lariu (mmlariu@copa.rio.com.br)
Subject: Re: Stereolab


        Hey!!
        EVERYONE

>I just recently bought "Peng", and I am quite impressed, to say the least.  My
>roommate bought "Mars Audiac Quintet", and we were both disappointed.  There
>were, of course, a few good songs, such as Ping Pong, but for the most part, I
>found the songs annoyingly repetitious.  The overuse of the moog and organ
>made me crazy.  Anyway, I was curious about "Switched On" because so many of
>you recommended it.  My question -- Is it more like Peng than MAQ?  I really
>don't want to buy something I'm not going to enjoy.  Thanks for your input.
>                                        --Kris

        Both cds from the Labs are marvellous, but, have anyone of you ever hear
 of NEU?
        Neu is a german kraut rock band from the seventies that made very good m
sic and seminal records based on repetition. Try listening to it again and keep 
n mind the repetition.


        Lariu - Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:00:51 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: New Swirlies Album


Where did you get this?  I must've checked 7 or 8 stores in the Seattle
area, and I found nothing.  I've checked Ear/Rational a few times with no
luck, and I've asked the folks at Parasol, but they don't know what I'm
talking about.

Isn't there a new EP as well?

Thanks,
Mike

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:43:08 -0700
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Twin Cities Accents (no-4AD Content)


You wrote:
>
>On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, aka Wavequeen wrote:
>
>> You wrote:
>> >
>> >>P.S.:  does anyone here actually live in North Dakota or
Minnesota?
>> Just
>> >>wondering?
>> >
>> >I am from Minnesota!!!  I have lived there all my life...except now
I
>> go to
>> >school in Madison, WI.
>> >
>> well, i just got back on line after a two week hiatus.  i'm a
>> transplant to minneapolis.  the 'accents' aren't nearly as nasty as
>> most of the people.  forget the crap about minnesota nice, in fact
>> people are so cold here, i'm moving to colorado where I went to high
>> school.  i'm sure minnesota could care less and i will be a happier
>> person as well.  the 'accents' are pretty funny although Fargo was a
>> really over-emphasized.  cheers, euthelene who's outta here in a
year,
>> you betcha
>>
>
>
>
> bitter?
>
no, just after living all over the world, i can truly say this is by
far the rudest place and yes I moved from NYC!  personal experience and
all, just beware

Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:42:08 -0700 retained. retained. retained.
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: In The Nursey fans


I had a chance, once again, to listen to an old In The Nursey song,
"Seraphic". I was wondering if any fan could recommend the good albums
to
buy. I really didn't like their Wax Trax attempt.

Thanx

==================================================
Communicating from the corner of 5th and Vermouth

                                     ~|~
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(c/o elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu)

< I recommend "Twins" and "Koda", also "L'Esprit".  But I've like
everything ITN has done, mutations experiments and all.
cheerio, euthelene

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:45:25 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: P5/Chapter House/Spooky/E.B.T.G./Auctions


    First, I saw some posts dealing with St. Etinnene(sp?) anyway they
did a remix of Pizzicato fives "Peace Music" of "Pizzicato Fives Sound
of Music" The Cd also came with a little fan club card with is cool.

    Second, I got Chapter House's "Blood Music" double cd and it's
pretty cool. It sounds more like the Cure or maybe even early New Order
than I expected. But I especally liked Spooky's extravaganza mix of "We
are the Beautiful". I noticed that Spooky did the awesome remix of
Lush's "Undertow", what else has he/she done?

    Third, I picked up Everything but the Girl's "Amplified Heart" and
am kinda disapointed. I thought it would be more techno oriented and it
sounded more like Mazzy Star. But I think the $12 bucks was worth the
remix of Missing, god what a beautiful song! (even w/out the remix)

    Oh and someone mentioned about all the auctions and i think it's
getting old. I think if someone doesn't reply after one post they
aren't going to. An update every so often isn't bad but lets keep this
under control.

    One more thing, I think we need new words for:

  Alternative (modern rock)
  Cool (Come on now, I think this one has run its course)


                                    Brian

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:15:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: nearing the end of "h" in my alph. cd tour


Shane Clark wrote:
>i don't know how many people on this list would have hole's "pretty on the
>inside"

Me! Me! Great album, probably the most angry and psychopathically violent
piece of music I own, right up there with "Rid Of Me". Their second album
is bubblegum pop by comparison.

>but i was listening to it today for the first time in probably 3
>years
>and was freaked out to hear the music for "dark entries" with hole lyrics.
> the
>song is "mrs. jones" and the music is exact.

I had never thought about it, but you're pretty much right. Although
there are a couple of melodies in "Mrs. Jones" and the others are less
similar, e.g. the part where she sings "viruses raging / breaking my
bones / Mrs. Jones oh Mrs. Jones...".
Ultimately I find it a much more interesting song than "Dark Entries",
which is pretty much the same riff all the way through.

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
            Some outside and some indoors--
            Oh my oh my oh dinosaurs            ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:46:29 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Jumping onto the Auction bashing bandwagon...


I'll throw my two dimes in for the record:

I have sold stuff before in an auction-type giveaway; and I would not have
even *thought* about posting it back to the list.  Like the guy from Dallas
said; its not that difficult to get off your lazy ass and copy and paste the
interested addresses into a distribution list.  I don't care what mailer you
are using; its not THAT hard.

When auctions get continuously updated on the list it seems kind of fishy or
more like the person posting is trying to create a sense of urgency to the
other folks on the list in that they are getting "left-out" by displaying the
running ticker of rising bids.  That's how real auctions work; on adrenalin.

Now *especially* when the auction is posted with *ALL* the info several
times.; this seems a bit obvious what is going on.  If you're going to
continuosly update to the list; the very LEAST you can do is edit each item
down to a single line.  There's no reason to have all the other information
unless you're trying to fish other lurkers out to "bite" on your wares.

Anyway, I'm not saying the person who posted the last auction meant to do any
of those things; but like others have said; 3 updates in one day is VERY
annoying and it makes you wonder...


marvynHortman       Director FAQ --> ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us

PS "typeIt4Me" rules!

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:47:18 -0700
From: "Karl V. Hallgrimsson" (karl.hallgrimsson@ASU.EDU)
Subject: Dracula's daughter lost her voice!


To whom it may concern:

        This message is not really 4AD stuff. Sorry to stuff your mail
boxes. Sincerest of apologies.
        I am a keyboardest looking to start a band called Dracula's
Daughter. So far it is just me on keyboards and right now I am looking
for a vocalist who could help get some lyrics started before we go for
other members. I am influenced by Slowdive, the Cocteau Twins, The
Cranes, and the Cure.
        Here is what I am looking for in a vocalist. She has to be a
girl. I like the sound of a girls voice better. I live in Phoenix Arizona
and she has to live within a 200 mile radius of me. She has to have
similar influences. Other then all of that I am pretty easy going about
what I want.
        If any of you are interested PLEASE let me know.

--Karl(AKA karl.hallgrimsson@asu.edu, http://www.public.asu.edu/~daffy)


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:51:11 -0400
From: "les pierres, les arbres, les murs..." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Mojave 3


>I am listening to Mojave 3.
>
>--
>Leslie Ann Beaulieu
>leslie@yuma.ACNS.colostate.edu
>beaulieu@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu

Are you listening to Mojave 3, or is it listening to you?

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:18:25 -0700
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: S*W*I*R*L*I*E*S


The whole thing with the album is weird...there were no promos or
advertisements or NOTHING about the EP (Sneaky Flutes) OR the album.  But
I went to tower (here in Chicago) about a week ago, and they had 4
copies.  I bought one, a friend bought one, and a week later...no more
Swirlies album.  They do have the "Sneaky Flutes" EP, which is just two
songs off "They Spent their wild...", and like, 4 "joke" songs.  Damon
wrote me and told me it was out, so at least the BAND knows its out.
Actually, the other day I read a Taang! advertisement that was selling
the EP...but as far as the FANTASTIC album, it really wasn't supposed to
be out until Summer, because they didn't have enough $$$ to release it.
Ho-hum.  POint is, it's out.  Taang! is probably sending shipments of it
around the world (a little after the fact), but still, not too soon.

Matt


Listening to my Bridget Cross songs/Tanya Donelly Throwing Muses songs
mix tape...ahhhh, heaven!


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:18:00 PDT
From: "Heileson, Thomas" (heilts1@MPE11.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Stereolab: TR-NBw/A


>> Could some of you Stereolab fans point me toward a good starting
>> point album-wise? I'm interested in hearing them, but don't know
>> where to begin.
>
>
>        in my humble opinion i find transient random-noise bursts
>with announcements on elektra to be a great place to start.

Just want to echo the sentiments re: the above album. I love all s-lab, but
this one is epic, and _very_ high on my all-time list.

>most of the stereolab records sound
>pretty much the same-.they all are good.

Yes, sort of... texturally... but IMnotsohumbleO, _Transient Random_ is a
shining exception to this. Each track really has its own personality & mood.


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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:37 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: free stuff


>for------------99 cents! it's called "no turning back". this is the same
>shox that's on 4ad, no?

yes it is.

4AD history-wise, (regardless if it's on 4AD or bb) that's a whopper of a
deal.

Song content-wise, and I'd say you paid too much.

jason
the shox bouncing listie

srilank@aol.com

Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:32 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: mojave 3


leslie wrote-

>> I am listening to Mojave 3.

...and mike added-

>   I'm not.  Later, I might go to the grocery store.
>
>  -Mike

Ironically, I went to the grocery store on *third* street, AND I wasn't
listening to Mojave 3 on my way.  I mean,  just when you think things can't
get any stranger ;)

jason
the perplexed listie who may have an idear for an upcoming x-files on his
hands {?}

srilank@aol.com

ps-I'm listening to xmal deutschland.


Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:05:00 PDT
From: "Heileson, Thomas" (heilts1@MPE11.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Combustible Edison


>
>> > Let me know if anyone knows of anything in this jazzy retro pop genre
>> > that I might like.  Thanks

I would heartily recommend the immensely talented & brilliant (not to
mention swanky as heck) Combustible Edison. {Not something I'd usually bring
up on this list, but since someone said the "c" word (cocktail)... Anyway, I
imagine a lot of people here would be into CE -- the ones, for instance that
are into either P-5, as mentioned previously, or even those (such as myself)
who love the songy stuff of This Mortal Coil... }

Saw them play in Seattle last night -- utterly amazing. These people are
consummate musicians and composers, hands down.


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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:38:40 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Dancing to the Cocteau Twins??


mark states--

>this brings me to another topic, the aformentioned other dj and i were
>talking about this a few weeks ago.  do you, as someone who's passionate
>about the music you like and as someone who's always searching for
>something new, feel the absolute need to spread the word?  when you meet
>someone who has similar tastes but hasn't heard some of the bands you
>like do you run home, make them a tape and practically force it into
>their ear?  are you depressingly disappointed when the say something
>like, 'oh yeah, i thought it was pretty good...' in an indifferent voice?

all the time.

I mean, what the hell?  People for the most part (yes, Virginia, outside of
this list) listen to some pretty mundane music.  This is being *nice*, mind
you.  So, I see in these poor souls a predicament, and think "hmm, should I
begin them on TMC and HNIA or ween them on Cocteaux and Slowdive?? Work my
way up to DCD and Pale Saints and then continue on, based on their beaten
path to that point?  "ooh I've got it all planned out" I mentally impress to
myself.  "Showers of joy and graditude will surely pour from their giddy
drooling mouths!" says I.
My plan has a point, or so it seems.  So, I subtly and coolly introduce what
I believe to be some of the finest sounds to grace God's green earth and when
I request their mortal opinion I receive in return --

 'oh yeah, i thought it was pretty good...' in an indifferent voice?!!

what?

are you f**king kidding?

I don't get it.  Then again I never learn either and thus I keep doing it,
keep doing it, keep doing it etc...

I know (for a fact) that we are not the only two who do this.

Any success stories out there?

jason

the tape-mixing for your indifferent pleasure listie.

srilank@aol.com


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