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Subject: Re: ESP
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:08:23 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: Re: Lush in NYC and other things
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:36:28 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets/six bars of bauhaus {unlisty}
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:07:15 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.4
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:12:42 -0400
From: "Scorpio M." (99barwik@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Stuff For Sale [was Re: cocktail revolution]
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:16:42 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:13:39 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:23:15 -0400
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: lush t-shirts?
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:30:41 -0400
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: WANTED stuff
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:27:15 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein (mps2@CEC.WUSTL.EDU)
Subject: 4AD question of the day...
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:43:24 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: bros. quay video available
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:28:25 -0500
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: Re: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:04:31 -0700
From: Brandon Capps (bcapps@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: cocktail revolution
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:22:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocktail revolution
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:23:31 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: stereolab
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:48:53 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:02:13 -0400
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Fore!
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:22:53 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Wire tribute
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:26:13 -0700
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: lush t-shirts?
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:23:46 -0700
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: stereolab
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:35:28 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: How do I subscribe
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:42:30 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:08:23 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: Re: ESP


>does anybody know if Karina Square still has copies of ESP COntinent? I
>cant seem to get it through any domestic distributers.

ESP Continent album: 20$ p&p.

Karina Square
107, rue de Javel
75015 Paris
France/

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 08:36:28 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush in NYC and other things


 Alex queried about The The.  I recently read a post somewhere
 quoting Matt Johnson, who said that the 'new' the the album
 that was slated for release in 1996 and tenatively entitled
 'gun sluts' has been scrapped. Matt sounded disillusioned, and
 dissatisfied. He _was_ residing in NYC recording 'gunsluts', but
 may be back in england now searching for a new direction.

 i also liked 'hanky panky' rather much, although 'dusk' seemed
 a bit poppy and simple to me (that tour, though, WOW!).

 in a vein of unlistiness,
 dan k.

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:07:15 -0400
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets/six bars of bauhaus {unlisty}


 I sas L&R in detroit friday, and booooy, did they ever rock!
 Their intro was a bit from 'body and soul', and when they
 appeared onstage they immediately ripped into 'ball of confusion.'

 While they did play from the new LP quite a bit, they also included
 old favories:

  *so alive
  *the light
  *mirror people
  *holiday on the moon
  *that 'wooh-wooh' train song from express
  *no new tale to tell

along with
  *sweet lover hangover
  *sweet FA
  *natascha
  *spiked
  *fever

and the house-rocker, the ultimate of ultimates was an extended version
of 'yin and yang the flowerpot man', which during the middle-eight morphed
seamlessly into 'bella lugosi's dead' for about six bars, then reverted back
into 'yin and yang'.  Eargasmic! Were i to use 'reviewspeak' (a language
found only in magazines), i would call it a
'proclaimation of the rebirth of cooler-than-thou, wailing electric guitar
rock with a twist of nineties cyberpunk'.  Luckily, i dont talk like that.

Go see them if you can!

dan

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:12:42 -0400
From: "Scorpio M." (99barwik@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.4


On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Creig Jacobson wrote:

> Well, finally!  I've had a whole 4 hours to myself, so here are some more
> results.  Sorry for the delay, and thank you for not hounding me, everyone!

Bands that we wish were on 4AD:
> Also mentioned:
> An April March/The Apples/Bel Canto/Bjork/The Blue Nile/Bowery
> Electric/Chinchilla/DJ Shadow/Mark Eitzel/Elysium/ESP Beetles/Grant Lee
> Buffalo/Lida Husik & Beaumant Hannant/Ivy (NYC one)/Laika/Leftfield/Legendary
> Jim Ruiz Group/Low/Luna/Mellonta Tauta/Miranda Sex Garden/Mistle
> Thrush/Movietone/My Bloody Valentine/October Project/Palace Bros/PJ
> Harvey/Po!/Pram/Radiohead/Red House Painters/Shelleyan Orphan/Spoonfed
> Hybrid/Starchild/Stina Nordentam/Swirlies/David
> Sylvian/Tindersticks/Tricky/Versus/Weezer/Yo La Tengo/Hector Zazou
>


                Uh huh, uh huh,..ok I believe that,...I agree, I....wha-..
        wait a minute....WEEZER?.....um...well if you say so.

                                um...no.  Nuh uh.  :)

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:16:42 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Stuff For Sale [was Re: cocktail revolution]


Paul wrote:
>You might also try the two albums by Grenadine (featuring Mark Robinson
>and Jenny Toomey), "Goya" and "Nopalitos"

What a good opportunity to jump in and mention that I still have
"Nopalitos" for sale:

Grenadine "Nopalitos" CD $8
Versus "Dead Leaves" CD $8
The Boo Radleys "Everything's Alright Forever" CD $8
The Bell Tower "Exploration Day" EP $5
Hypnotic Clambake "Gondola To Heaven" CD $8

Prices include (domestic) shipping via US Mail. If interested, send me
e-mail with your mailing address.

On the subject of retro-lounge-space-age-pop, one must of course listen
to Esquivel, the Maestro himself. His recordings from the 50s and 60s are
like EZ-Listening music re-interpreted by Carl Stalling (of Looney Toons
fame)...

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
                  ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:13:39 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Love and Rockets

; from "daniel klyn" at Mar 20,
              96 7:13 am

Since the group has been recently talked about...

Does anyone know any info about Love and Rockets tour dates
(especially in the Philly/D.C area)?

PS  Saw them on 120 Minutes last night...I don't think I would have
ever recognized them if it weren't for the never-changing David J.
(Daniel Ash always did look odd but he has certainly topped himself
this time - someone mentioned how he has the greasy Bono look and
that's what I thought to myself too).  It's also too bad about their
recent fire - I heard that they lost the guitars that they played in
Bauhaus.

Holly
bio4hah@cabell.vcu.edu

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:23:15 -0400
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)


I'm sure someone has already answered this but does anyone happen to know
what the non-Lush, non-Velocity girl song in the VW ads is.  It's knda
growing on me.  Female lead singer with a lot of eeeeee...'s in it.

Thanks in advance,



James 

... it is better to build upon the shifting sands
than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:30:41 -0400
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: Re: lush t-shirts?


On Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:00:13 -0700 Jon D Drake
 wrote:
>Hey,
>does anyone know if lush has t-shirts on their new tour, and if so,
>what do they look like? Any other stuff on sale at the shows?


They did in the UK, but I think they'd sold out by the end of the tour.

Could have got some new ones though.

The designs?  Simple stuff, various sizes & colours with the new logo on
the back, and either "Single Girl"  "Ladykiller" or "Lovelife" on the front
in a simple sans serif font.

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:27:15 -0500
From: Michael Peter Stein (mps2@CEC.WUSTL.EDU)
Subject: WANTED stuff


Hi as my first message to this list I just wanted if anyone could help me
locate these items, I'd be willing to pay top dollar for 'em in good

Mouse on Mars "Frosch" EP (Too Pure) on CD
Lush "For Love" CD single

If anyone is interested in the first 4 Lush EPs (Scar, Mad Love, Lush, and
Black Spring), let me know, I have access to extra copies on CD.

-Mike Stein
 mps2@cec.wustl.edu

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:43:24 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: 4AD question of the day...


Who are the Jive Bombers?

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:28:25 -0500
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: bros. quay video available


found this in the latest issue of cmj consumer:

the best of the brothers quay vol one and two are available on laser disc
from voyager criterion

sorry, that was all that was given, no address or other info, but I would
contact a large video store, or maybe even tower or hmv..


steve

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:04:31 -0700
From: Brandon Capps (bcapps@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)


I think the song you are inquiring about is "Beautiful" by Ivy (the New
York group, not the UK group on Sarah Records).  You can find the song on
their excellent debut Lp titled "Realistic" on Seed Records.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
                             brandon capps
                             p.o. box 1483
                            tempe, az 85280
                                 u.s.a.
                           bcapps@primenet.com
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 MiloV@AOL.COM wrote:

> I'm sure someone has already answered this but does anyone happen to know
> what the non-Lush, non-Velocity girl song in the VW ads is.  It's knda
> growing on me.  Female lead singer with a lot of eeeeee...'s in it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> James 
>
> ... it is better to build upon the shifting sands
> than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.
>

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:22:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocktail revolution


> > Let me know if anyone knows of anything in this jazzy retro pop genre
> > that I might like.  Thanks

Keep in mind, folks, that most of the P5 stuff is more techno-pop than
'jazzy retro pop'.

> You might also try the two albums by Grenadine (featuring Mark Robinson
> and Jenny Toomey), "Goya" and "Nopalitos"

Hmm... that's a stretch...

Mike

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:23:31 -0400
From: "James M. Renaud" (jrenaud@GOPHER.CHEM.WAYNE.EDU) > Could some of you Stereolab fans point me toward a good starting > point album-wise? I'm interested in hearing them, but don't know > where to begin. in my humble opinion i find transient random-noise bursts with announcements on elektra to be a great place to start. i think the record hits moments that are magical and classic. it represents stereolab better than any other disc because it blends the older style and the newer style of stereolab. all stereolab records are good. they are better than most of the muzik out there. most of the stereolab records sound pretty much the same-.they all are good. i don't mean this in a bad way. i think that is why they continue to be so great. i think transient random-noise bursts with announcements is great and definitely in my top twenty of favorite records of all time. "analogue rock," "tone burst," and "pack yr romantic mind" fill out this great record. anyway, they all are good and you won't be disappointed with mars audiac quintet or refried ectoplasm. my favorite stereolab song is "harmonium." star vein. i have a new email address. jrenaud@sun.science.wayne.edu and a new website, but i'm not quite ready for people to see it because the links aren't quite working. it will be a webzine. it'll be totally art orientated with muzik reviews, film reviews, and art reviews. anyway, love from detroit...

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:48:53 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: stereolab


As a somewhat more refined question for the
Stereolab fans, what albums would you recommend for
someone (me) who prefers their lighter moments
(Pack Yr Romantic Mind, Ping Pong etc.)? I have
Transient, Peng and Mars Audiac Quintet. What bugs me
the most about Stereolab is their tendency to go into
long repetitive jams. Sometimes this is OK, but they
soon get into a rut.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:02:13 -0400
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: VW (Not Lush, Not Velocity girl)


On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 MiloV@AOL.COM wrote:

> I'm sure someone has already answered this but does anyone happen to know
> what the non-Lush, non-Velocity girl song in the VW ads is.  It's knda
> growing on me.  Female lead singer with a lot of eeeeee...'s in it.
>
        Could this be the Ivy VW commercial?  I don't recall which song
it is, but it definitely sounded like Ivy.  Just a guess...

                                       Much Love,
                                                Chris.

        "If there's been a way to build it,
        There'll be a way to destroy it,
        Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:22:53 -0700
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Fore!


Yesterday while revelling in the midst of a huge breakfast,
a twee little Easter egg hunt hosted by Jenny Elysium, and
the latest Bedazzled compilation playing the wonderful
Blueshift Signal in the background, I came to the realization
that life's too short so I want to do the next hypothetical
4AD covers compilation, provisionally entitled Foretene, NOW. If I wait
until our other CDs to start making us money, it may never happen.

Some back story. Stop me if you think that you've heard this
one before. The first compilation Thurtene is our first and
best selling CD, and we didn't even know that we were going to be
releasing it, much less forming a label, until several months
into the project. It began as a neat little idea in October of 1992
for people on 4ad-L to pay tribute to 4AD by creating an
album of cover versions. Bands with some connection to 4AD-L
submitted their own takes on 13 songs, with anything from
faithful renditions to totally warped demolitions. While
results varied wildly and project initiator Steve Schuldt
has gone on record as saying that much of it was crap, generally
Thurtene has been looked upon favorably, even getting a lukewarm
review from Alternative Press, and being found in stores from
Portugal to South Africa (I really don't have a clue how that
happened, believe me.)

So what happens next? Foretene! 14 songs by 14 different
bands to celebrate 4AD's 17th year. Does the math make
sense? Of course not, but 17 songs might be pushing it,
and 17 doesn't naturally follow 13, does it? Well it does
if you go by prime numbers, but anyway... I posted a message like
this quite a while ago to stir up interest, and this is my purpose
once again. There are no release details yet, but I do have
a wish list of bands I'd like to include. I'm sure you know who
you are, and I'll be contacting all of you separately. As opposed to
Thurtene where every single submission was used (save one) and where
there were two vague repetitions of bands, with Foretene I hope
to get as many submissions as possible to generate a spirit of
friendly competition. So if you're in a band, and would like
to be involved with Foretene, start thinking of a number of
songs you'd like to cover, and contact me directly. Give me
some background on your band, unless I'm already obviously
familiar with you and list some of your ideas, however vague,
so I know where you're coming from. The ground
rules are simple: pick any song from 4AD, any at all, and filter it
through your own band's style and creativity. Don't change any
existing lyrics, but feel free to experiment otherwise. But contact
me first to start things off and I'll set up a mailing list to
keep you informed as things happen.

My main goal is that Foretene be miles beyond Thurtene,
and with a number of bands either committed to or with assured interest
in doing it, this seems within reach.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:26:13 -0700
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Wire tribute


Just a post to Lush fans who haven't heard of the Wire tribute album
called "Whore".  It contains a track by Lush:  "Mannequin", with two
short paragraphs by Emma and Miki about why they like Wire etc.

Strick9

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:23:46 -0700
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: lush t-shirts?


On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Jon D Drake wrote:

> Hey,
> does anyone know if lush has t-shirts on their new tour, and if so,
> what do they look like? Any other stuff on sale at the shows?
>

I don't know about on the tour, but there are 3 shirts that have been made:

1) "Ladykiller" short sleeve blue shirt/orange print lush logo on back
2) "Ladykiller" short sleeve orange shirt/blue print lush logo on back
3) "Lovelife" long sleeve white (one orange sleeve) red print with silver
glittery outline lush logo on tag in back in same silver glitter

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:35:28 -0400
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: stereolab


for the refined question of a rec for somebody that likes stereolab's
poppy bits and already has Peng/Audiac/Transient, I stick to my rec of
Switched On. True Classic and if you already appreciate them, you love it.
I wouldnt rec Batchelor Pad Musc or the Amorphous Body Study Centre if
you dont like droney

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:42:30 CST
From: o-o-o (gruisinger@CCTR.UMKC.EDU)
Subject: How do I subscribe


I know this is ridiculous but can someone please send me the info on how to
subscribe.  Everything I've found and tried hasn't worked.  Thanks
--gary (gruisinger@cctr.umkc.edu)

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