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Subject: new (?) Michael Brook cd "Shona"/new Cure babble
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:39:36 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: lush is good for dogs.
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:58:23 -0500
From: Athol (ktp52952@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: Re: sorta NON4AD-ish: meaning of Baraka
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:27:21 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: Disappointed with the new IDAHO CD
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 03:50:25 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: Brendan Prry and experimentalism
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 05:02:54 -0600
From: Kendal Myka Obermeyer! (kobermey@UNLGRAD1.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:00:37 -0500
From: that unfortunate incident at the aquarium (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: sorta NON4AD-ish: meaning of Baraka
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:04:07 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Vindication for Twinlights/New CT
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:00:29 -0500
From: that unfortunate incident at the aquarium (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:08:37 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Small Auction: 4AD + out-of-print (Spiritualized, etc.)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:34:21 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Kristen Hersh/other LA shows
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:27:58 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:56:02 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:17:26 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:39:51 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:36:32 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: well from ivo's mouth
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:33:00 EST
From: Star Vein (USERZ9JQ@MTS.CC.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse box set
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:18:25 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:03:28 -0700
From: CHRISTOPHE SULLIVAN (csulliva@NMSU.EDU)
Subject: Modern English/Xymox for Sale!
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:56:22 -0500
From: Dumpo712cd@AOL.COM
Subject: SMILE! :) - 4ad bands people hate and Lush
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:58:19 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: New 4AD sampler... Shaving the Pavement
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:43:20 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Barbara Grogan
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:14:58 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Shaving the Pavement (Chicago)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:32:52 -0600
From: "Dominic M. Tolli" (tolli@UKRAINE.CORP.MOT.COM)
Subject: lush shows in the east
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:50:07 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:32:54 -0500
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: Re: SMILE! :) - 4ad bands people hate and Lush
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:55:16 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: lush shows in the east
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:50:33 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: new (?) Michael Brook cd "Shona"/new Cure babble
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:08:00 CST
From: anaconda (anaconda@WWA.COM)
Subject: huH hits the news stands
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:16:41 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: (for LAngeles listies) Super 31 record release on Sun. 4/7
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:14:52 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Edsel Auctioneer (slightly 4AD)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:39:20 +1200
From: Robin Fargher (robinf@DEV.WHOLESALE.NBNZ.CO.NZ)
Subject: Re: huH hits the news stands
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:10:43 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)

Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:39:36 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: new (?) Michael Brook cd "Shona"/new Cure babble


well folks, I stopped by local supplier of all that is musical yesterday and
was looking to replace my somewhat used and aged copy of "Cobalt Blue" that
had been lent out over and over again (I strongly discourage this... if you
must make taped copies for friends)  but anyway, so I was looking through
Michael's bin a low and behold a cd I had not seen before - anywhere.

It's a really beautiful cd...but hold on... it's not on 4AD.  Could this be
the first solo release of Michael's not on 4AD???  Is this a trend to be seen
in the future with other 4AD as we've seen in the past so far where the bands
are still signed to 4AD, but are free to release projects elsewhere??  (ex.
 hisnameisalive  "King of Sweet" and the upcoming RHP(?))

This particular cd was released on Sine Records (56 Standard Road, London,
NW10 6ES)  (cat# sin002)  with such a low catalog #, it's seems pretty
evident this is a new label.

Along with the english record label, and the tell-tale "MADE IN ENGLAND"
sticker, comes the hefty price (for us yanks) ...  $23.99

A bit steep for only 4 songs.  yes that's it only 4 songs.

here's the track listing:
1. urbana 14:20
2. productivity 8:18
3. err  4:18
4. shona  11:28

inside the sleeve it says "Recorded during the Lanzarote Music Festival,
December 1989"...all copyrights are 1995.

the sleeve graphics are reminescent of v23, but with large, clear,
typography.  Design and art direction are credited to "Definition".

I haven't had a chance to check the eyesore database as of yet, but I was
just wondering if anyone else had seen this little expensive devil yet.

by the way, after 2 listens....  it's well worth looking for....even if it is
a bit expensive for 4 songs  ( i justified the expense by reminding myself of
the deal i got last week where I picked up the Nooten/Brook (what a
coincidence!) cd new for a bargain of $4.99)

the place where i picked mine up at also had 1 other left.  i'm sure they'd
be more than happy to mail order, or contact me personally to arrange
something.

btw, I heard the new Cure today on a local station...the first single is
entitled "thirteenth" (or "13th"...whatever, you get the point)...it's quite
different from anything else the Cure has  put out before....  i suppose in a
way i was disappointed, only because i had been expecting something a little
more 'traditional' from them after 5 years, but it is pretty good none the
less.

i'll review the "Shona" cd if there is a large interest in it and once I've
listened to a few more times.  ;)

on one last note, anyone going to the Detroit StP show and would like to hook
up with fellow listies, contact me (personally of course).

~~BluBelKnol@aol.COM

currently in player --  Brant's "Thurtene" comp, truely wonderful after being
shelved for far to long.  btw Brant, how's that Xmas 45" coming along??  ;)


Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:58:23 -0500
From: Athol (ktp52952@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: lush is good for dogs.


was nursing a sudden cold with the tv on the 'extra' show on (dealing w/
hollywood and other fashionable items), when on a segment dealing with
mentally-ill/psychologically-challenged dogs and thier doctors (yeah...),
they played in the background Ciao! and 500 from the new Lush albulm,
Ladykillers...

what's it comming to...

i guess if your dog has mood disorders, you could go to the doctor and
have him subscribe prozack or lithium or even play that lush albulm you
have... now it's good for something!   :>


 -ktp52952@Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu
 -University of Central Florida, Orlando Fl.


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:27:21 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: Re: sorta NON4AD-ish: meaning of Baraka


"breath of life" or "blessing". has roots/translations in a number of
different languages, including hebrew ('baruch', i believe?) and
indian ('baraka', as it is used in the title).

sorry i don't know more than that.

peace love and squalor,
                       K-


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 03:50:25 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, & Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Disappointed with the new IDAHO CD


Idaho is a band that doesn't get discussed too much here, and its a shame
because they are fairly this-listy, especially their first album Year after
Year.  Nice walls of guitar and Jeff Martin has this low syrupy voice like
Ian Curtis of Joy Division.  Slow, plodding, mopey and beautiful.  It is
the Cure's Pornography on barbituates.

THe second album THIS WAY OUT sheds those walls of guitar sound, and speeds
up the tempo a bit, but the album is still nice and mopey.  There is more
of a conventional pop structure to the songs.

I bought these 2 CDs after seeing them open for the Cranes.  Idaho's live
show reminded me alot of Red House Painters, which is why I went out and
bought their stuff.

ANyway, they have just released a 3rd album, Three Sheets To The Wind.  I
rushed out and bought it, and after 3 listens, I must say that this is the
worst of the 3 albums.  It sounds like an attempt to crossover.  Gone is
the low register of Jeff Martin's voice--now he is trying to sing like
everyone else.  There are about 3 good songs on this, but it is all much
too happy for my liking.  Jeff, you should go back to the cough syrup....

Oh well, I'll hold on to it for a month or so more to give it a chance....

Idaho is on Caroline.  Whatever happened to Bark Psychosis?  Aaaah, that
HEX is one fine CD.


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john b. jones                          e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu
              http://web.syr.edu/~jojones

"I can't get out of bed/All I want is the glory" - Idaho
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 05:02:54 -0600
From: Kendal Myka Obermeyer! (kobermey@UNLGRAD1.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Brendan Prry and experimentalism

              "Srilank@AOL.COM" at Apr 2, 96 09:41:55 pm

Speaking of new sounds in conjunction with April Fools, it conjures a
vivid mental picture if you say that Brendan Perry spent a year living
among the Bushmen of the Kalahari, mastering their language which is
full of clicking sounds, and that he plans to implement this untapped
'sound' into his next album.

                                                        *Kendal*


>
> >Brendan Perry has decided to broaden his musical horizons by going to Brasil
> >        and learning the Samba.  He has included two drum-filled, hip
> >        shaking samba numbers in his latest album.  His voice carries the
> >        cry of the Samba dancers down the Avenue where the carnaval schools
> >        parade.  He was actually down in Brasil during this past carnaval,
> >        and many Brazilian DCD fans were ecstatic to hear him scream the
> >        name of the winner of the Schools of Samba,
>
> I think the real april fools joke would be to tell the people that the
> Brendan Perry album was done ;)
>
> jason
>
> srilank@aol.com
>
> ps-This rimy river ltd. ed. advertisement works well as a cover on any
> dartboard.  try it!
>


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:00:37 -0500
From: that unfortunate incident at the aquarium (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!


Frank wrote:

>>Brendan Perry has decided to broaden his musical horizons by going to Brasil
>>and learning the Samba.  He has included two drum-filled, hip
>>shaking samba numbers in his latest album.
>
>I hate all latin music.

Well, and all Latin music hates you too. What a lovely enlightened attitude
you've got there. I suppose you've heard all the Latin music there is, in
all its forms, so as to reach that conclusion?

Besides, it's a joke.


Larry

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:04:07 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: sorta NON4AD-ish: meaning of Baraka


my copy has a translation of the word on the cardboard slipcase.

y'know, the blurb they always put on the back??  anyway, check
the copy you have access to, otherwise i can look it up for you
upon request (im at work, and am not connected at home).


when youre done with the paper, i'd be very interested in reading
it.

dan

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:00:29 -0500
From: that unfortunate incident at the aquarium (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Vindication for Twinlights/New CT


Matthew wrote:
>I am most happy. When Twinlights came out last year I paid the outrageous
>price of $13.99. Needless to say I no longer frequent that CD store.
>Today however redemption was found. At a nearby Tower that I'd only been
>to once before I asked the girl in charge of singles for the new Tishbite
>CD. She showed me one of them and I asked about the other. She hesitated
>for a moment and then from a secret hiding place pulled out both Tishbite
>singles (that she had been saving for herself) for an astounding $5.99 a
>piece!!!
>
>Yay! Cheers! Shouts of acclamation for this great person!!!

Indeed. So, didya ask her out?


Larry


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:08:37 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: new (?) Michael Brook cd "Shona"/new Cure babble


I've got that 'new' Brook cd "Shona". As anything he puts out, it is well
worth the import price. Though the tracks are have new titles and such, the
music is pretty much variations on the same themes he's been working on
all along. Not by any means that this is bad. The disc is wonderful,
though I wouldnt call it a new full scale release.


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:34:21 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Small Auction: 4AD + out-of-print (Spiritualized, etc.)


Hello all. Just gotten it together long enough to post yet another electronic
auction. The items listed are separated into groups by format (7" Singles /
12" EPs, 10" EPs and LPs / CDEPs and CDs). Unless otherwise noted, all items
are M or M-. Information on bidding to follow...

Ta Da!

Roy (coppin' Brandon's style...almost)

RBN Ry@aol.com


7"Singles^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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single; 4AD; cat. no. SCHEER 1
minimum bid: $7

VARIOUS ARTISTS (Liquorice, Kendra Smith, Red House Painters): "Joe Friday"
7" single; 4AD; cat. no. K9
minimum bid: $10


12" EPs, 10" EPs,
LPs^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

508 --- some ringwear on sleeve and inner sleeves, vinyl is in M-
minimum bid: $15

THIS MORTAL COIL: "Song to the Siren" / "Sixteen Days, Gathering Dust" 12"
EP; 4AD; cat. no. BAD 310
minimum bid: $12

VARIOUS ARTISTS: "Red Hot + Bothered: The Indie Rock Guide to Dating 1" 10" +
fanzine; RED HOT/Kinetic; cat. no. 45954 --- features Liquorice, Folk
Implosion, Noise Addict, Grifters and Freedom Cruise (with Kim and Kelley
Deal); ltd. edition of 1,000; OUT-OF-PRINT
minimum bid: $20


CDEPs,CDs^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

minimum bid: $10

FRAZIER CHORUS: "Ray" CD; Charisma; cat. no. 91641 --- U.S. issue NOW DELETED
minimum bid: $15

cat. no. 2-45902-A
minimum bid: $10

PRINCESS DRAGONMOM (Warren Defever a.k.a. HNIA, ESP): "Slow Poke In. 12 CD
with kernel of corn; Insignificant Records; no cat. no.
minimum bid: $12

Dedicated; cat. no. DEDCD 008
minimum bid: $35

VARIOUS ARTISTS: "Facing the Wrong Way" CD; 4AD U.K.; cat. no. FTWW 1
minimum bid: $25

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*ALL BIDS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIVATELY TO: RBN Ry@aol.com

*Bids will be accepted up until 8:00 pm (central standard time) of Wednesday
April 10th, 1996.

*Items will go to the person with the highest bid placed before the
aforementioned deadline.

*Winners who fail to make payment on items will forfeit the item to the next
highest bidder.

*Postage must be paid by winning bidder.

*All participants with contending bids will be updated as necessary.


RBN Ry@aol.com

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:27:58 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: Kristen Hersh/other LA shows


Don't know if this had been mentioned yet, but Kristen Hersh is playing
Friday, April 19th at McCabe's Guitar Shop. Tickets go on sale April 5th.

Also, Modern English is playing the Coachouse In June or something. I
laughed when I saw this. You'd think there'd be some great band burial
ground next to the elephant one and all bands could go there at their
appointed time.

Does anyone know when Lush is playing LA and where?

thanks, matthew


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:56:02 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan


Tim Coronel wrote:
>Does anyone know anything more about (French?) singer Barbara Grogan, who
>appears on a number of Hector Zazou projects?

I may be totally bogus here: but wasn't she the singer of the early-80s
Scottish new wave band Altered Images (whose hit "Happy Birthday"
everyone must have heard) who was also in the Bill Forsyth film
"Gregory's Girl"? Wotta cuuutie...

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
                  ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:17:26 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan


>Tim Coronel wrote:
>>Does anyone know anything more about (French?) singer Barbara Grogan, who
>>appears on a number of Hector Zazou projects?
>
>I may be totally bogus here: but wasn't she the singer of the early-80s
>Scottish new wave band Altered Images (whose hit "Happy Birthday"
>everyone must have heard) who was also in the Bill Forsyth film
>"Gregory's Girl"? Wotta cuuutie...


That would be CLAIRE Grogan.  Quite attractive, actually.

Rick

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:39:51 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan


> I may be totally bogus here: but wasn't she the singer of the early-80s
> Scottish new wave band Altered Images (whose hit "Happy Birthday"

That's a different Grogan (Claire, or something). Fans of
the series Red Dwarf may know her as Kochanski.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:36:32 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan

              <199604031738.JAA00657@vader.inow.com>

> Tim Coronel wrote:
> >Does anyone know anything more about (French?) singer Barbara Grogan, who
> >appears on a number of Hector Zazou projects?
>
> I may be totally bogus here: but wasn't she the singer of the early-80s
> Scottish new wave band Altered Images (whose hit "Happy Birthday"
> everyone must have heard) who was also in the Bill Forsyth film
> "Gregory's Girl"? Wotta cuuutie...
>
> __________                                            __________________
> Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
>                                          or not at all>      ________________________
>                                                 http://www.mooseyard.com

I'm pretty sure that Claire Grogan was the singer for Altered Images.
And BTW, 'Happy Birthday' is actually a pretty groovy 80's wave record
..... and yes she was/is a cutie.

Steve


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:33:00 EST
From: Star Vein (USERZ9JQ@MTS.CC.WAYNE.EDU)
Subject: well from ivo's mouth


someone just wrote aboute being suprised about a michael brook non-4ad
record. m, brook is actually signed with real world and not with 4ad. when
i talked to warren defever he said that not even his name is alive is signed
to 4ad. he said legally no one on 4ad is signed to 4ad. ivo also said in an
interview a ways back that he never signs a band. he actually contracts bands
each record or single or anything is an individual contract with 4ad. this is
why 4ad is so great because they can use so many artists without scaring them
into staying. jennifer toomey, guitarist and singer of liquorice, is also
owner of a decently sized independent label "simple machines" and has another
band called tsunami and she releases singles by liquorice and tsunami concur-
rently with 4ad. warren defever works the same way. he has his own label and
releases at least something a month. also, king of sweet was warren's record
way before ivo's 4ad came knocking. i like this a lot and find it a big plusl
for 4ad. look at what's going on with the cocteau twins in releasing their
milk and kisses. it's taking them for fucking ever. what's cool with 4ad is
that the music comes first and if ivo can't put it first he doesn't sign it.
this is what happened to red house painters. ivo couldn't put a record he
didn't agree out when he didn't believe "4ad" could support in the way they
did the other records. however, ivo never forced anything with kozolek or
made him do anything like prince had to with warner or neil young had to with
geffen and so and so on. kozolek has free reign to take his record to other
labels. that's very cool. ivo stays cool and so does kozolek's muzik.
anyway...
that's all folks,
star vein

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:18:25 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Chapterhouse box set


You wrote:
>
>Hello, about a week ago, somebody posted a message about a
Chapterhouse
>vinyl box set, and I lost the message.  Anyway, does anyone have any
info
>on this?

i am very interested as well, if you get any info. via private e-mail
(please post it) :)
if in fact such a thing does not exist does anyone know of anyway to
obtain
-sunburst
-freefall
-pearl

    these are the only singles i haven't tracked down thus far. thanks.

                                        -robert.

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:03:28 -0700
From: CHRISTOPHE SULLIVAN (csulliva@NMSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan


On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Jens Alfke wrote:

> Tim Coronel wrote:
> >Does anyone know anything more about (French?) singer Barbara Grogan, who
> >appears on a number of Hector Zazou projects?
>
> I may be totally bogus here: but wasn't she the singer of the early-80s
> Scottish new wave band Altered Images (whose hit "Happy Birthday"
> everyone must have heard) who was also in the Bill Forsyth film
> "Gregory's Girl"? Wotta cuuutie...
>
> __________                                            __________________
> Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
>                                          or not at all>      ________________________
>                                                 http://www.mooseyard.com
>

No, gregory's girl was played by clare grogan, but yes, clare was the
singer of altered images.  altered images broke up so that clare could
further pursue her "acting career," which subsequently went nowhere.  she
released a solo project in the late '80s which i would love to get a hold
of.  does anyone know what she is doing now?


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:56:22 -0500
From: Dumpo712cd@AOL.COM
Subject: Modern English/Xymox for Sale!


Greetings from Dumpo Music, where we are now celebrating our one-month
anniversary online! Many thanks to all of you who helped make our debut so
successful!

Now available at Dumpo (all items UK unless noted):

MODERN ENGLISH:
DROWNING MAN 7" (LIMP2) --$20
  First release from 1979, not on CD!! b/w "Silent World"
SWANS ON GLASS 7" (AD6) --$12
  b/w "Incident"
GATHERING DUST 7" (AD15) --$12
  b/w "Tranquility Of A Summer Moment"
SMILES AND LAUGHTER 7" (AD110) --$10
  b/w "Mesh And Lace"
LIFE IN THE GLASSHOUSE 12" (BAD208) -- $8
  b/w "The Choicest View"
I MELT WITH YOU 7" (AD212) -- $10
  b/w "The Prize"
GATHERING DUST 12" EP (BAD306) -- $8
  w/ "Gathering Dust", "Mesh And Lace", "Smiles And Laughter",
  "Swans On Glass" & "Home"
SOMEONE'S CALLING 7" (AD309) -- $5
  b/w "Life In The Gladhouse"
SOMEONE'S CALLING 12" (BAD309) -- $8
  b/w "Life In The Gladhouse"
CHAPTER 12 7" (AD401) -- $5
  b/w "Ringing In The Change"
CHAPTER 12 12" (BAD401) -- $8
  b/w "Ringing In The Change" & "Reflection"

CLAN OF XYMOX:
A DAY 12" (BAD504) -- $8.00
  Remix b/w "Stranger (remix)"
BLIND HEARTS 12" (BAD711) -- $7.00
  b/w "A Million Things" & "Scum"


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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:58:19 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: SMILE! :) - 4ad bands people hate and Lush


    I got Smile by Ride at the music store yesterday and was wondering
if this was the the compalation to the two LP's/EP's whatever. Oh, They
also had a Red Raven by the Throwing Muses with 11 live tracks for
$17.00 is this any good? By good I mean poppy and accesable.

     How come nobody talks about bands like That Dog or any of the
Guernica bands? Do they suck (for lack of a better term)?

       One more thing, does anyone know about the existance of any
Gala, Spooky Era demo's that Lush put out? Thanks for you time,



                                        Brian!

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:43:20 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: New 4AD sampler... Shaving the Pavement


I just got this today, it's from 4AD/WB/Reprise, cat no. PRO-C-8096.  I
have a feeling that this may only be available on cassette, since I did
not see any cd copies, but I could be wrong.

Here's the track listing:

Side a
1. Lush - Ladykillers
2. Lush - Tinkerbell
3. Mojave 3 - Where is the Love
4. Mojave 3 - Mercy (KCRW acoustic)
5. scheer - Screaming
6. scheer - You Said (Electric version)

Side b
7. Liqourice - Team Player
8. Lisa Germano - Small Heads
9. Heidi Berry - The Devil
10.His Name is Alive - ESP Summer
11.Tarnation - Halfway to Madness
12.The Amps - Pacer

haven't heard it yet, but all except tracks 4, 8, 9 and 10 have been
released elsewhere...

Strick9


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:14:58 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Barbara Grogan

              

Tim wrote:

>Does anyone know anything more about (French?) singer Barbara Grogan, who
>appears on a number of Hector Zazou projects? Is/was she in another band?
>Any other releases anyone can point me to?

Was she in "The Passions", who released a few records in the early
eighties.  As in "I'm in love with a German film star that I once saw in a
movie.  Playing the part of a real trouble maker but I didn't care.  It
really moved me ...  de-de-de-de-de-de, DI-DI-DI, DI-DI-DI".

If she wasn't, I'm sure someone can tell which singer I'm thinking of!!

Simon Hughes

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:32:52 -0600
From: "Dominic M. Tolli" (tolli@UKRAINE.CORP.MOT.COM)
Subject: Re: Shaving the Pavement (Chicago)


> Just wondering ... does anyone know if the 'Shaving the Pavement' show in
> Chicago sold out?
>
        I don't see how it could have.  There were tickets for
several other shows going on sale through TicketBastard at the
same time Saturday at noon, so I waited down at the Metro.
For about a half hour, this nice sixteen-year-old and I were
the only ones waiting, and once tix went on sale, there were
no more than ten folks in line.  No TicketBastard charges at
that location, as usual!  Oh, as of 3:30pm Wednesday (today),
tickets are still available.  See you there Chicago area folk!

Nick

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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:50:07 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: lush shows in the east


i was wonderin',

did the lush shows sell out in Boston, Philly, and Providence?  i'm still
trying to decide if i'm going to any of those...

lor

Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:32:54 -0500
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Barbara Grogan


for fecks sake. claire grogan is a two foot fucking midget who lives in
Finsbury "soon-to-be-played-in-by-the-Sad-Pistols" Park and she should
just go fall in a hole.

love

impuritycat
xxx

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:55:16 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: SMILE! :) - 4ad bands people hate and Lush


Brian wrote:
>>     I got Smile by Ride at the music store yesterday and was wondering
if this was the the compalation to the two LP's/EP's whatever. Oh, They
also had a Red Raven by the Throwing Muses with 11 live tracks for
$17.00 is this any good? By good I mean poppy and accesable. <<

        Smile is the compilation of the two EPs, yes.
        Is it the Red HEAVEN with the Kristin Hersh solo live tracks? I
have that and it's pretty good although it sounds a bit unrehearsed. If
you're looking for 'poppy and accessible' (I don't know whether that's
supposed to be in jest, or what!), however, you should skip Red Heaven.
In fact, skip Throwing Muses and 4ad altogether if you're looking for
that. Go buy yourself the Hootie CD instead.

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:50:33 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: lush shows in the east


Lush tix are still avail for the Philly date.

(why does it have to be the same night as Ruby!?)


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:08:00 CST
From: anaconda (anaconda@WWA.COM)
Subject: Re: new (?) Michael Brook cd "Shona"/new Cure babble


At 10:39 PM 4/2/96 -0500, BluBelKnol@AOL.COM wrote:


>Along with the english record label, and the tell-tale "MADE IN ENGLAND"
>sticker, comes the hefty price (for us yanks) ...  $23.99

I saw this almost three months ago at a Best Buy here in Chicago. It has been
out for awhile, but I hesitated purchasing it because of the steep price.

>A bit steep for only 4 songs.  yes that's it only 4 songs.
>
>here's the track listing:
>1. urbana 14:20
>2. productivity 8:18
>3. err  4:18
>4. shona  11:28

It is _almost_ 45 minutes, which isn't horrible, but considering the price...

>I haven't had a chance to check the eyesore database as of yet, but I was
>just wondering if anyone else had seen this little expensive devil yet.

See above.

>by the way, after 2 listens....  it's well worth looking for....even if it is
>a bit expensive for 4 songs  ( i justified the expense by reminding myself of
>the deal i got last week where I picked up the Nooten/Brook (what a
>coincidence!) cd new for a bargain of $4.99)

Ack! You lucky dog, but then again, this week I managed to pick up 15 CDs
for 45 bucks (including Lush's Spooky for 1.99  still wrapped) :}

>btw, I heard the new Cure today on a local station...the first single is
>entitled "thirteenth" (or "13th"...whatever, you get the point)...it's quite
>different from anything else the Cure has  put out before....  i suppose in a
>way i was disappointed, only because i had been expecting something a little
>more 'traditional' from them after 5 years, but it is pretty good none the
>less.

It is a decent release. Based on the 4 songs I have heard so far, it is one
fo the better ones. Mint Car sounds like a bland pop song, Jupiter Crash is
an interesting song if for nothing else than the strange timings used and the
nice acoustic guitar. Want, well, it sounds good and has decent lyrics, yet
I haven't heard enough of it. The 13th is actually quite neat once you give it
a few listens...once you get over the thought "isn't this from a Pepe's
commercial?" and listen to it a bit, it is an interesting song. But then they
will never again be the Cure of 1980 to 1984.

bob
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Fire, let it burn, Fire, see how it feels...Forthcoming Fire
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:16:41 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: huH hits the news stands


after stopping by the local bbok shop, i noticed huH sitting there on the
shelf.  curiosity got the best of me since i had never seen one before and
thought they were available by subscription only.  turns out after skimming
over the editor's monthly letter, that very issue (#20) is the premiere
newstand issue.  It also mentions that the CD will still only be available
monthly, to subscribers.  It also still listed Vaughan Oliver/v23 as "Design
Director", contrary to rumors I've heard that he left the project.  The issue
didn't have very much in the way of reviews and interviews (listy wise that
is), although I only had a few minutes the glance through, i'll be returning
tomorrow to pick it up for closer inspection.

thought some of you might be interested in knowing it out in the public's eye
now.

-blubelknol@aol.com
'


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:14:52 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: (for LAngeles listies) Super 31 record release on Sun. 4/7


I don't know if Kelly  will announce this (I don't think she's subbed anymore)
but there's a record release party for Super 31's new CD _Eye Heavy_
on Easter Sunday, April 7th at 8pm at The Alligator Lounge, 3321 Pico Blvd.
in Santa Monica, all ages.
I haven't heard the CD yet myself... I'm sure Brant could say a word or two
on it.
Also appearing are The Lemmings (haven't heard them) and 8 Page Story.
8 Page Story are gigging really hard in these parts; I've caught them about
5 times in the last two months. They're really sounding great-- a blend of
upbeat indie-pop, with some folkish leanings, very fun music. Their singer
is the biggest Cocteau Twins freak I know not on this list-- you can ask
her about the things Robin's sent her recently.

Should be a not-to-miss concert extravaganza for the whole family!

-nick


Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:39:20 +1200
From: Robin Fargher (robinf@DEV.WHOLESALE.NBNZ.CO.NZ)
Subject: Edsel Auctioneer (slightly 4AD)


Slightly not-this-listy, but does anyone know whatever happened to the Edsel
Auctioneer? They seem to have vanished after their excellent Simmer album of
a couple of years ago.

(They did share a member with the Pale Saints for a while, so I don't feel
too guilty!)

Thanks
Robin

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:10:43 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: huH hits the news stands


Huh magazine is pretty good...but its selection for new music on its CD is
godawful. Plus the subscription is very expensive if you include postage
(which you have to pay for). It runs around $80 per year. Not a very good
deal if you ask me...


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