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Subject: Re: austin people
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:39:27 -0500
From: john (jrose@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Laika, LFO, Wire/Whore
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:37:38 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:05:46 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:04:15 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:49:16 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:21:18 -0600
From: handling your halogen (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:58:50 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:13:39 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: It's April 1st.
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:12:00 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:05:48 -0500
From: May Herbert (HERBERTMR@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU)
Subject: the amps in L.A.
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:45:58 U
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:08:20 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: New MBV *finally*
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:14:55 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:00:09 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: low subscriber theory
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:49:36 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: RS anyone?/Cocteau 2
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:28:22 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: New Cocteau single?
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:16:47 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: Lush setlists?
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:37:26 -0800
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:19:08 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: the amps in L.A.
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:33:44 -0500
From: "Rodney......who should really be working now......."
Subject: Re: New MBV *finally*
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:13:54 EST
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@FAGAN.UNCG.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV *finally*
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:28:03 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:21:29 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: cocteau twins release date
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:12:05 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Cocteaus NEW box set... hmmm
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:29:21 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: last birthday message
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:29:30 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:01:31 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: RS anyone?/Cocteau 2
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:18:37 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Deleuze
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:43:30 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: help- need ride homepage
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:27:47 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: low subscriber theory
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:28:14 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush setlists?
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:23:32 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: last birthday message
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:09:40 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rollerskate skinny
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:01:13 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:23:14 -0800
From: Cynthia Eng (cindyeng@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: new cure (was re: new mbv finally)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:22:53 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:39:27 -0500
From: john (jrose@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: austin people


>does anyone know the phone number to any one in the band the furrey things?
>or 7%solution? or 16deluxe?

Please don't tell me you're looking for home phone numbers.

IF true THEN
     yikes
ELSE
     sorry to presume that...

To contact SIXTEEN DELUXE, contact:

Trance Syndicate Records
P.O. Box 49771
Austin, TX 78765
USA

 ...OR in the UK...

Southern Studios
P.O. Box 59
London
N22 1AR




______________________________________________________________
    john roseborough              jrose@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:37:38 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Laika, LFO, Wire/Whore


 David Mccallum  wrote on Sat, 30 Mar 1996
 (Subject:  El Ef Oh! Tres Un-4AD-able.)
 > On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, James P.  Crimm wrote:
 >
 > > God, I love this list.  Who can tell me what all LFO has
 > > released?
 >
 > The Warp site, found through www.hyperreal.com has a complete
 > discography (with a few singles I'd love to get my hands (ears?)
 > on).  Though you need a graphical browser to get to it.

The server for the Warp site seems to be down at the moment, it's
usually at http://www.inta.net/~g303/warp/.

 >
 > I'm in the exact opposite situation.  I love _Frequencies_, but am
 > waiting for a reasonable price before getting _Advance_.  Being
 > tortured by rave reviews.  "Old LFO" is tough to describe.  It's
 > been said that in an LFO song the bass kicks in as the medody.
 > Years ago there was a rumor that they were working with former
 > members of Kraftwerk.  I am still waiting for that to surface.

"Kombat Drinking", the final track on "Advance", is apparently about a
night out on the piss with Bartos and Flur.  Laetitia Sadier has
apparently recorded vocals for one of the songs on the album, which will
be released as a single (in 1998, if LFO keep up their usual rate of
work).

 Darryl Stephen Roy  wrote on Sat, 30 Mar 1996
 (Subject: Re: Laika's graphic design)
 > > On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, David Mccallum wrote:
 > >
 > > But then the CD design that looks like
 > > "package-with-stamps-and-string" wasn't very original with Laika
 > > either.  Nothing comes to mind right now, but we've all seen that
 > > design before.
 >
 > Flipper's "Album-Generic Flipper" from 1982 comes to mind as being
 > quite similar.

Or Captain Beefheart's "Strictly Personal", which was originally going
to be called "It Comes To You In A Plain Brown Wrapper" or something
similar - that was released in the late sixties, and there's a Free live
album (I think it's Free) from a few years later with similar artwork
(even down to the band members' faces being on the stamps).

Bought two compilations at the weekend, both featuring Main.  Sub Rosa's
"Folds and Rhizomes for Deleuze" has four long (>10 min) tracks by Mouse
on Mars, Main, Scanner and Oval, plus a short track of music with spoken
(French) words by Jaques Deleuze, who is apparently some sort of French
cultural theorist and hence unknown on this side of the channel.  The
music is very much in the minimalist/dark ambient vein, Mouse on Mars
inject some melody and dub sound effects, and Scanner slips in a couple
of pirated cockney telephone conversations (yawn), the Main and Oval
tracks are tuneless rumble/drone/buzz tracks (which I quite enjoyed,
being in that sort of mood this weekend).  The other compilation was the
Wire tribute album "Whore", a mixed bag - Laika are great as ever, Main
show they can actually play music with a tune (albeit "Used To", one of
Wire's less hummable songs), there are rather too many straightforward
punky covers, Bark Psychosis (with all the original members) do a
s l o w e d  d o w n version of "Three Girl Rhumba" which sounds
suspiciously like a pisstake.  My Bloody Valentine's "Map Ref (whatever
the numbers are)" is OK but sounds exactly as you would expect it to -
dreamy vocals and fuzzy music with a spiky, wiry guitar part.  Lush do a
straightforward cover in their current style.  Worth getting, but the
original versions are often far better.  Nobody can really mess up
"Outdoor Miner", can they?

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 01/04/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
LFO - Advance

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:05:46 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:16:19 -0500 lorelei tremolor 
>so there are 388 people on 4ad-l...what are the odds that everyday is
>someone's birthday?
>
>confused lorelei

At the risk of (a) sounding like Lt Cdr Data & (b) being
just a little bit anal, the odds are actually 0.90407216:1 ON.
(I think.  Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

What's odder is that a month or two ago it was 420+
on the list (around the time of the "Kim Deal is the
Centre of the Music Universe" thread)

Where's everybody gone?  What's wrong?

lushed off my feet


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:04:15 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: It's April 1st. Do you know where your "Rimy River" is?


Yup!

Wouldn't it be a kicker if they sent these things via surface mail.
"Dispatched in March" but arrived in May!

This is getting a bit ridiculous isn't it?

Almost as ridiculous as slapping down $250 for a book? Hmmmm.

Oh well.

Does anyone have any new information on this?

Roy


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:49:16 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


a b-day list?  oh i'll be damned!  let's start the 4AD Listies B-DaY List!
        mine's on Jan. 4th.



Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:58:50 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!


Brendan Perry has decided to broaden his musical horizons by going to Brasil
        and learning the Samba.  He has included two drum-filled, hip
        shaking samba numbers in his latest album.  His voice carries the
        cry of the Samba dancers down the Avenue where the carnaval schools
        parade.  He was actually down in Brasil during this past carnaval,
        and many Brazilian DCD fans were ecstatic to hear him scream the
        name of the winner of the Schools of Samba,

--> taken from BilliBoard Muzic Magasine (1/4/96)


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:13:39 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


        Well, I am August 12, 1977 at (about) 11:30 p.m. EST.  Do you
realise how many messages this will prompt?  I think there should be one
personal address for these birthday posts.  A compiler who will take all
of them and put them in one post, or on a web page, or the like.  Any
volunteers?

                                       Much Love,
                                                Chris.

        "If there's been a way to build it,
        There'll be a way to destroy it,
        Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:12:00 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: It's April 1st.


and today is my birthday. it's the big 22. i'm already starting to lose
my sight and hearing. i guess the hair and hips are next.....

have any of you listened to this artist by the name of "baby bird". he's
got a track on volume 15; "alan ladd". well, i bought all three albums of
his that i could find and they are amazing. all were recorded on four
track apparently but sound somehow more involved. the manipulation of
sounds is really cool.

4ad content paragraph: i found the tmc box set for $40. anyone wanna buy
filligree and shadow? or a cassette of it'll end in tears?

dave (desarg@mail.wm.edu)
zelzah, where is you?


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:05:48 -0500
From: May Herbert (HERBERTMR@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


I've never seen so many people with August birthday.  Mine is the 24th, and I
know hardly anybody with an August birthday.

Aren't you glad to know that.

later,

may

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:45:58 U
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: the amps in L.A.


Mail*Link(r) SMTP               the amps in L.A.

>anyone going to this show at the troubadour on april 24? it's only $10! what
>a bargain! are they playing in seattle, anyone know?

YEAH! I'll probably be there if nothing else goes wrong in my life :)
Pretty exciting huh!

_NBZ

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:08:20 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)

              Apr 1996 09:05:46 +0000

 lorelei tremolor  wrote:
>so there are 388 people on 4ad-l...what are the odds that everyday is
>someone's birthday?

 Chris Limb  replied:
> the odds are actually 0.90407216:1 ON.

Thanks Chris!  Now we don't have to have 388 responses with birthdays.  ;)
Whew!

-cz

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:14:55 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: New MBV *finally*


<<<<

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:00:09 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


i agree, this one question will be just short lines saying such and such.  I
dont want about 60 pieces of mail each day for the next week.  :)

At 11:13 AM 4/1/96 -0500, you wrote:
>        Well, I am August 12, 1977 at (about) 11:30 p.m. EST.  Do you
>realise how many messages this will prompt?  I think there should be one
>personal address for these birthday posts.  A compiler who will take all
>of them and put them in one post, or on a web page, or the like.  Any
>volunteers?
>
>                                       Much Love,
>                                                Chris.
>
>        "If there's been a way to build it,
>        There'll be a way to destroy it,
>        Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"
>
>
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:49:36 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: low subscriber theory


In a message dated 96-04-01 04:38:32 EST, you write:

>What's odder is that a month or two ago it was 420+
>on the list (around the time of the "Kim Deal is the
>Centre of the Music Universe" thread)
>
>Where's everybody gone?  What's wrong?
>
>lushed off my feet
>
>

my theory is that in actuality, there are only 300 or so 'regular' list
members that are subbed and stay subbed.  The other 80-150 come and go as
they wish whether it be people new to the net, or those interested in reading
the list during school semesters.

eh...  just a theory.

-blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:28:22 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: RS anyone?/Cocteau 2


I hope at least some of you have taken my
recommendation for the new Rollerskate Skinny
album to heart and picked it up. I've been bouncing
off the walls over this album for a while now.
The first masterpiece of 1996?

Picked up the two part Cocteau Twins single for
Tishbite yesterday (two CDs: Tishbite + 2 non-album
tracks and Tishbite + 2 other non-album tracks-- whoever
came up with this two-part single thing ought to be hung by
his fingernails). The non-album tracks are wonderful.

Also saw a bunch of the new Stereolab albums as $28 imports-- yikes!
Plus both Felt's Let The Snakes... and Poem Of The River at last
for reasonable prices on CD: $7.99. I guess someone finally figured
out that they're really EPs (at least in length).

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:16:47 -0800
From: Matthew Polder (mpolder@SUN1.PS.UCI.EDU)
Subject: New Cocteau single?


Could somebody please tell me the different versions available of
Tishbite? Is it going to be released domestically? Is Wayne Newton on it?

Please reply to me personally.

thanks,

matthew

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:37:26 -0800
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Lush setlists?


Perhaps I've missed it, but has anyone posted any set-listings
from recent Lush shows?  Just curious.

I've not heard the new album yet, but I have been listening to
the four CD singles and I think they're getting a bum rap on this
list.  There are a couple of clunkers, but overall they're quite
good, and there is at least one excellent song per disc.  (Ex,
Tinkerbell, Carmen, and although they didn't write it --
Demystification).  And to anyone who thinks that this current
Lush sound is a "new" thing, I would think they haven't listened
to Split very much.

Good schtuff to me.

--
Chris.
luna@teleport.com

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:19:08 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!

              Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:58:50 -0500

"...handsome devil..."  said:
>   Brendan Perry has decided to broaden his musical
>   horizons by going to Brasil         and learning the
>   Samba.  He has included two drum-filled, hip
>   shaking samba numbers in his latest album.  His voice
>   carries the         cry of the Samba dancers down the
>   Avenue where the carnaval schools         parade.  He
>   was actually down in Brasil during this past carnaval,
>   and many Brazilian DCD fans were ecstatic to hear him
>   scream the         name of the winner of the Schools of
>   Samba,
>
>   --> taken from BilliBoard Muzic Magasine (1/4/96)

Wow!  That's amazing.  Since Lisa Gerrard covered that Tito Puente song  (...
which one was it that she did on the Mirror Pool tour?), it makes me wonder who
got them on this Latin kick and makes me *really* wonder what the next DCD album
will be like.

-cz


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:33:44 -0500
From: "Rodney......who should really be working now......."
Subject: Re: the amps in L.A.


>anyone going to this show at the troubadour on april 24? it's only $10! what
>a bargain! are they playing in seattle, anyone know?

I'll be there......seing the ghost of kelly.

lalter,
rod

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:13:54 EST
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@FAGAN.UNCG.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV *finally*


>      The new My Bloody Valentine album has finally been released to a
>handful of record stores and reviewers in Great Britain! The album (sans
>title) is supposedly heavily influenced by jungle music and, except for dub
>base and rapid drum machine, follows the trend of late with very little
>guitar devices and very little guitar, period. Kevin Shields plays
>digideroo and keyboard mostly throughout.
>
>      The slated release date is May 1 and will probably have many of the
>fans of MBV's old and outdated style crying, "Mayday". One of the
>highlights of the album is a dub-jungle version of "In the Ghetto" which
>was popularized by Elvis Presley in the '60s (or '70s?). This is going to
>be interesting.      Cheers,     Pat
OK, I'll bite. This wouldn't just be a sick, pervo-twisted April Fool's
joke, now would it?  Hmmm?

Ricq - pattayr@fagan.uncg.edu

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:28:03 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: New MBV *finally*


        ...and what day is it today? Ha, ha.


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:21:29 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


>a b-day list?  oh i'll be damned!  let's start the 4AD Listies B-DaY List!
>        mine's on Jan. 4th.

Get ready, I=B4ll be throwing a Bday party on may 13th... possibly in=
 Austin!
(4AD style...)
*************************************************
'The Picture you see, is no portrait of me...'
                                     NewOrder
*************************************************

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:12:05 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: cocteau twins release date


Not one minute ago I spoke to someone at Capitol
about the release date for Milk And Kisses, so here is
the latest info:

Milk And Kisses will be released on May 14.
Tishbite will only be released as a promo CD single
to radio stations, etc.
A US CD/EP may be released eventually, but not for a while.
A US tour may be in the works for June.

Apologies if this has been covered already on the Cocteau list.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:29:21 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Cocteaus NEW box set... hmmm


Does anybody knows what this thing, besides Milk & Kisses, will carry?

Cocteau Twins-Milk & Kisses LTD CD BOX 5323632 $27.50???
>Limited Edition Collectors' CD Box Set on initial orders only. Reviews
>are glowing, applauding the Twins for a return to the "sublime sounds".
>Liz's vocals are "so gorgeous that those with sensitive constitutions
>may find themselves in danger of passing out" (Wire 146). I've had a
>five dollar range of prices from various suppliers, so price is to be
>confirmed. I most likely won't have many, or possibly any extras, so
>preorder whatcha want. (Fontana)

Ok, so the reviews are great and I=B4m starting to faint not beacuse my
'sensitive constitution' but from the ANXIETY of waiting to hear this ONE!=
=20

Sheesh... I haven=B4t listen to Tishbite yet.

In despair,

Pepe
*************************************************
'The Picture you see, is no portrait of me...'
                                     NewOrder
*************************************************

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:29:30 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: last birthday message


thanks to A guys named Chris for computing the data...

i didn't expect everyone to start e-mailing their birthdays in...
i was just wondering what the odds were...


pensive, pondering lorelei  :)


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:01:31 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: birthday question (non4ad)


In a message dated 96-04-01 04:38:32 EST, you write:

>What's odder is that a month or two ago it was 420+
>on the list (around the time of the "Kim Deal is the
>Centre of the Music Universe" thread)
>
>Where's everybody gone?  What's wrong?
>
>

all of the desperate souls trying (pleading) to get off the list finally
figured out how.

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:18:37 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: RS anyone?/Cocteau 2


>I hope at least some of you have taken my
>recommendation for the new Rollerskate Skinny
>album to heart and picked it up. I've been bouncing
>off the walls over this album for a while now.
>The first masterpiece of 1996?

Yep, I picked it up about a week or two ago.  I really don't know what to
compare it to, but I like it a lot.  It's got this weird mix of brit pop
influence with some plain ol' weirdness thrown in for good measure.  What
are their other albums like?

Jake

Off to visit relatives behind the Orange Curtain for the weekend

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:43:30 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Deleuze


Deleuze unknown on this side of the chanel?!!!! I dont know about
England, but here in the States, Deleuze is a pretty important
intellectual figure.

Gilles Deleuze (not Jacques!) was a french philosopher thought by many to
be the pre-eminent post-modern thinker. As far as things French he sorta
carries the torch from Sartre to Foucault to Deleuze. Following the
student revolutions of '68 he co-authored a landmark text "AntiOedipus"
that attacks psychoanalysis (and many othercultural theories) as being
overly predetermined and dominated by a prefabricated 'story'. The sequel
to the book "A Thousand Plateaus - Capitalism and Schizophrenia", that
takes the ideas of "AntiOedipus" and applies them to just about
everything else. His other books are about everything from more 'strict'
philosophy, as well as linguitics, logic (via 'Alice in wonderland'),
masochism, and culture in general. He committed Suicide at the end of last
year.

His work is far too complicated and lengthy to go into detail here, but
all his books are now available in English. Deleuze often takes a highly
irreverant look at the concepts and institutions of Western thought...
and though his writing is dense, once you break through his style, he
really is delightful to read.
If you're interested in any of the philosophical underpinings of such
things as chaos/ambient music/and I wager even the noise-pop of such
things as Stereolab I highly recommend Deleuze. The easiest entry into
his work is a short book called "Dialogues" that he co-authored with
Claire Parnet (Columbia Press 1987).

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:27:47 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: help- need ride homepage


it's about 5:30 pm in new york and i won't be logged on for too long,
but can someone please e-mail me addy for aaron thorne's awesome ride
homepage?

i left it at home and i need it now.  i'll probably be out of here by 6pm
so no need to e-mail me if it's past 6 New York time.

thanks...

lorraine

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:28:14 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: low subscriber theory


At 01:49 PM 4/1/96 -0500, you wrote:

>
>my theory is that in actuality, there are only 300 or so 'regular' list
>members that are subbed and stay subbed.  The other 80-150 come and go as
>they wish whether it be people new to the net, or those interested in reading
>the list during school semesters.
>
>eh...  just a theory.
>
>-blubelknol@aol.com
>

I was mysteriously unsubscribed from the list a couple of weeks ago.  It was
right after I mistakenly mail-bombed the list (sorry again), so I thought
maybe someone forged my email address and unsubscribed me to get rid of me.
(The bastards!)  But if that were the case, wouldn't I have gotten an email
from the listserv confirming that I was unsubscribed?

Our server was down for a day or so during that same time frame.  After a
few days of receiving no mail from the list, I got a copy of the subscriber
list from the listserv and noticed there was only one person from my site
subscribed.  I thought there were several people here (at xmission.com)
subbed to 4ad-L.

What does the listserv do if it can't deliver mail to a subscribed person
for a long period of time?  Does it automatically delete them from the
subscriber list?  Maybe this partially explains what happened.

Any other theories?

-Tony


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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:23:32 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS4.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush setlists?


On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Chris.Hanks wrote:

> Perhaps I've missed it, but has anyone posted any set-listings
> from recent Lush shows?  Just curious.

i went to see lush in january for their promo tour, so i don't know that
they'll be doing that same setlist.  they ended with "demystification",
but that was the only b-side they did.  they didn't do much Lovelife, but
a lot of nice oldies.

it'd be nice if they did Carmen, but i'm sure i'm being too optimistic by
expecting them to do Plums and Oranges, the hidden gem...

i don't like Ex much really.  it kinda exemplifies the way lush's
lyric-writing has gone down.....


lushous lor

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:09:40 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: last birthday message


On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, lorelei tremolor wrote:

> thanks to A guy named Chris for computing the data...
>
> i didn't expect everyone to start e-mailing their birthdays in...
> i was just wondering what the odds were...
>
>
> pensive, pondering lorelei  :)
>

        Although I would like to take credit for the calculations,
it was actually Chris Limb what calculated the odds.  So, thanks to Chris
Limb for his efforts :)
                                       Much Love,
                                                Chris.

        "If there's been a way to build it,
        There'll be a way to destroy it,
        Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:01:13 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Rollerskate skinny


In a message dated 96-04-01 14:44:37 EST, you write:

> hope at least some of you have taken my
>recommendation for the new Rollerskate Skinny
>album to heart and picked it up. I've been bouncing
>off the walls over this album for a while now.
>The first masterpiece of 1996?

i love this album too!  Someone on another list said that the second album
sucked without jimi shields, but i beg to differ. This album rox.
my2cents
jennifer


Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:23:14 -0800
From: Cynthia Eng (cindyeng@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Brendan Perry's New Album has Samba!


His latest album??? What other albums other than stuff from DCD has he
produced?? I heard about an album last year, and then the talk about it
disappeared.

Cindy


On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, ...handsome devil... wrote:

> Brendan Perry has decided to broaden his musical horizons by going to Brasil
>         and learning the Samba.  He has included two drum-filled, hip
>         shaking samba numbers in his latest album.  His voice carries the
>         cry of the Samba dancers down the Avenue where the carnaval schools
>         parade.  He was actually down in Brasil during this past carnaval,
>         and many Brazilian DCD fans were ecstatic to hear him scream the
>         name of the winner of the Schools of Samba,
>
> --> taken from BilliBoard Muzic Magasine (1/4/96)
>

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:22:53 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: new cure (was re: new mbv finally)


><<<<     The new My Bloody Valentine album has finally been released
>to a handful of record stores and reviewers in Great Britain! The
>album (sans title) is supposedly heavily influenced by jungle music
>and, except for dub base and rapid drum machine, follows the trend
>of late with very little guitar devices and very little guitar,
>period. Kevin Shields plays digideroo and keyboard mostly throughout.

this reminds me. . .a friend of mine told me that there's a new cure single
out. . .the album is supposedly due around may 7 or something like that.
the new single is. . .from what i've heard. . .mamba-ish. . .

BiZ