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Subject: Re: Lush review by Joanna
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:34:16 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Lovelife: The Tour (part four)
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:31:13 -0500
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: 7% solution/Laika
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:40:38 -0500
From: salivating polar bear on skateboard (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: 7% solution/Laika
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:06:45 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: El Ef Oh! Tres Un-4AD-able.
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 18:02:53 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:34:16 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Re: Lush review by Joanna


rich wrote:
> while it is ok to have your personal opinions about the music on Lush's
> Lovelife, it is completely wrong to espouse your opinions on why they made
> the record and what they were attempting.

hk replied:
> And at the same time, to say that it is wrong to espouse on this list any
>  opinion whatsoever that has to do with the work of an artist typically
>  discussed on this mailing list is horribly myopic.  A fan of any form
>  of art has every right to speculate on what the artist had in mind at
>  the outset and on whatever he or she was trying to achieve at the end.
>  The fan also has every right to share those opinions, although whoever
>  that happens to be listening also has the right to ignore said speaker.
>  This two-way relationship of open and free communication should be as
>  obvious as proverbial night and day, and if the notions of niceness and
>  propriety happen to get at least a little violated along the way, then
>  so be it.

Is speculation about an artist's intentions really useful as opinion?
 It sounds similar to offering your opinion of what 2 + 2 is, or some
 other question which has an answer (or answers).  You can try to guess
 the answer to the question of "what was Lush attempting to do on Lovelife?",
 but your guesses aren't really opinions; offer your speculation to one
 of the band members and they can tell you "yes" or "no" or perhaps
 "i'm not tellin' dammit."  Now, it might be different if the artist
 were dead because in that case, perhaps nobody would be able to offer
 the real answers.  One of those "your guess is as good as mine" things.

Sure, feel free to speculate, but i don't see it as open and free
 communication.  True openness would involve Lush giving their answer.
 Then you can offer your opinions on whether or not they're lying =)

kagin
kagin@tyrell.net


Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 12:31:13 -0500
From: lccapsn@IOE.AC.UK
Subject: Lovelife: The Tour (part four)


Here we go, then...

DAY SEVENTEEN: LEICESTER PRINCESS CHARLOTTE

Yet again, yet again, far too small a venue for the mighty Lush!  A
medium sized pub, the Charlotte was sold out.  The audience were
EXTREMELY active, there was a slight case of hysteria in the way they
crowdsurfed and attempted to stagedive...  The band tried to put on a
good show, but the PA seemed a bit shaky, and at times it was difficult
to hear all the instruments.  "Deluxe" sticks in my mind mainly because
that was when an overenthusiastic crowdsurfer knocked me out with a
flailing Doc Marten.  Upon regaining consciousness, I spent the rest of
the night sitting down at the back.  Bummer.

DAY TWENTY THREE: TUNBRIDGE WELLS FORUM

Now wash your hands.  For a converted lavatory, this place is big.  For a
venue, it's TINY!  The recurring cry of the Lovelife tour will be: "This
place is way too small!"  This was the first night I'd seen Novacaine
support, and they were not bad, if a little Manic-Street-Preachersy.  After
Leicester, the audience was a pleasant change, multitudinous and
clearly enthusiastic, but not rowdy.  I managed to quite easily make my
way to the front for most of the set without putting myself in mortal
danger.  And musically, everything seemed back on track, heading
uphill to what I'm hoping will be a storming gig at the Electric Ballroom
in London on Wednesday.  Touch wood. Yes I really enjoyed this gig, it
was good to be back after a week or so.  The set was still pretty much
the same (obviously having settled down into a comfortable rhythm
nearer the beginning of the tour) but as usual the highlights were in
different places.  "Undertow" was particularly brilliant tonight.

Last night I was at Reading, the Alleycat, but I'll include that in my next
report, as I've gotta rush off to Nottingham now...

bfn



Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:40:38 -0500
From: salivating polar bear on skateboard (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 7% solution/Laika


John wrote:

>"7% solution"'s art is nice. doesn't even=
> LOOK like an austin band, which these days is a great thing. the packaging=
> reminds me of laika's "silver apples..".. with the thin-silver-paint-pen=
> printing on black cardboard. fancy.                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is in fact exactly what Laika did on their Antenna EP. Hmmmmm.
Meanwhile, the package-with-stamps-and-string look of Silver Apples of the
Moon now appears to have been copied by...Cracker (gag).

Larry


Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:06:45 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: 7% solution/Laika


On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, salivating polar bear on skateboard wrote:

> > reminds me of laika's "silver apples..".. with the thin-silver-paint-pen=
> > printing on black cardboard. fancy.                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That is in fact exactly what Laika did on their Antenna EP. Hmmmmm.
> Meanwhile, the package-with-stamps-and-string look of Silver Apples of the
> Moon now appears to have been copied by...Cracker (gag).

        But then the CD design that looks like "package-with-stamps-and-string"
wasn't very original with Laika either.  Nothing comes to mind right now,
but we've all seen that design before.


Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 18:02:53 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: El Ef Oh! Tres Un-4AD-able.


On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, James P. Crimm wrote:

>      God, I love this list. Who can tell me what all LFO has released?

        The Warp site, found through www.hyperreal.com has a complete
discography (with a few singles I'd love to get my hands (ears?) on).
Though you need a graphical browser to get to it.

> I like Advance and someone made referance to "old LFO" which has the
> ring of "new Beatles song" to me, but who knows? I never believe reviews,
> anyway. After all, only the future will tell what albums are important
> and which are CRAP, and even *that* is a matter of opinion...

        I'm in the exact opposite situation.  I love _Frequencies_, but
am waiting for a reasonable price before getting _Advance_.  Being
tortured by rave reviews.
        "Old LFO" is tough to describe.  It's been said that in an LFO song
the bass kicks in as the medody.  Years ago there was a rumor that they
were working with former members of Kraftwerk.  I am still waiting for
that to surface.

        David, who loves the Coen Brothers' "Fargo"


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