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Subject: M2O'H
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:32:04 -0600
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: TarantuBLAH
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:56:04 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Autechre
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:36:04 PST
From: Burt Reynolds (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: ouch! and my fax page
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:33:53 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TarantuBLAH
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 12:01:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: M2O'H
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:07:46 GMT
From: "Robert A. Szkolnicki" (Robert_A._Szkolnicki@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Lovelife
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:12:38 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:31:48 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:11:01 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kieslowski + Preiner's Music
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:12:14 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Lovelife: 4AD toy with us yet...
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:25:54 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:35:43 -0500
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: somewhat-thislisty TV appearances
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:22:23 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: cidytalk
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:31:39 -0600
From: monica (mmsather@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:32:04 -0600
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: M2O'H


Always happy to answer a question about Mary Margaret O'Hara.  As far as I
know, all she's released is the aforementioned "Miss America" (which I
agree is brilliant) and a Christmas single a couple of years ago (I've
never seen or heard it).  I heard some scuttlebut that she's recorded
stuff, but her label has not been happy with it.  Evidently, she's been
fighting to get the stuff back from them, but to no avail.  Take this with
the requisite grain of salt though...I have no inside information.

By the way, has anyone heard anything more about a new Blue Nile LP?

-- Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

University of Wisconsin, Madison
110 North Hall
1050 Bascom Mall
Madison, WI  53706


Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:56:04 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: TarantuBLAH


On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, jesus el pifco wrote:

> >if you read a few interviews, the album was finished before the break up
> >was immanent.
>
> Well, then it sounds like they knew the end was at hand, or like they just
> didn't feel like trying.

There is a difference between hating the band you're in and losing
interest in music. From the content of this album it's pretty clear
that these folks have lost interest and don't understand what's happened.
I somewhat doubt that it was *impossible* for each member to go his
separate way and still manage to compile ten songs between the four of
them over the space of two and a half years. This has worked just fine
for New Order, the Cocteaux, DCD, etc. If you can stand looking in the
booklet for Tarantula, it seems to be their *most* collaborative work.

> it sounds like
> they didn't put much effort into it.

I'm inclined to think they put a whole lot of work into it. You can't
just sit down with your guitar and knock off something that awful. They
seem to have worked very diligently at creating something which just
happens to be awful beyond imagination.

> Nice lettering on the sleeve, though.

No offense meant, but are you kidding?


Mr. Burns wrote:

> >Its amazing how many nay sayers crawl out of the woodwork whenever a band
> >changes its style!

Gee, thanks for taking me at my word where my reasons are concerned. It's
also pretty amazing that you seem to think they never changed their
style up until this new album.

> >I guess I'll just have to keep listening to nowhere
> >over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

There are plenty of bands we all love that sound *nothing* like Ride
*ever* did...



    einexile who is getting to his mail very late sorry
    is the stereolab album out here or do the rekkid st
    ores here just suck? maybe i should not have delete
    d the messages about stereolab :) go lookie my page

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:36:04 PST
From: Burt Reynolds (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Autechre


Hi all.
Can anyone tell me what Autechre's 2-disc blank-bronze-cover album is
like? What other bands are good comparisons? Thanks for the help!
    brian
    bwilliam@fogelson.csf.ed

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:33:53 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ouch! and my fax page


On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, L-Soft list server at AMERICAN.EDU (1.8b) wrote:

> the 4AD-L list (391 recipients).

Christ, I stop posting for two weeks and someone steals my job of getting
people to unsubscribe from this list. You fickle bastards!

The guide to Fax label releases, that I think I posted once and which a
few people have asked me for at one time or another, is up at

        ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ei/einexile/.vile/fax/faxguide.html

I am trying out for World's Longest URL! :)

Anyway, it should be pretty updated by the time you read this, with a few
reviews and other fun shit thrown in sooner or later.


 e

BTW does anyone know how much the laser of Seven is going to cost? For
that matter is it coming out Tuesday or is that just the f***ing $100
videotape? :(


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 12:01:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: TarantuBLAH


shortly ago e wrote somethig to the effect of:
> I am surprised to see that you think Ride never changed their style
> before this.

I dont know how this idea was taken out of my comments. I hardly think
this is the case. Ride's changes of style have taken them into and out of
interesting areas, my point however is that I don't begrudge them for
changing styles - even if I don't prefer whatever direction it is they've
ended up in. If my commentary indicated otehrwise, that was sarcasm.

After listening to Tarantula for about a week or so, I sat down with it
and a pair of headphones last night. I am torn as to pass a verdict on
the disc. imho there are about six songs that are musically interesting
and worthy of a ride signature, and the other half of the album really
seems pretty worthless to me. Does that mean the album is a failure?
I'm not sure. I dont think a record has to be ground breaking and 'the
nesxt biggest thing' since feedback... but I do admit that Tarantula
leaves me a little cold. Ride's previous changes in style made sense to
me in their own way and gave a flavour to each disc that somehow
complimented the music... on this one, I cant tell why they did what they
did. I guess if there's a handful of songs on it that I can listen to and
enjoy, thats better than Ride breaking up and never hearing anything from
them ever again. A bitter (almost sweet) goodbye.


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:07:46 GMT
From: "Robert A. Szkolnicki" (Robert_A._Szkolnicki@mit.bison.mb.ca)
Subject: Re: M2O'H


>Jeffrey T. Gayton writes:
>Always happy to answer a question about Mary Margaret O'Hara.  As far as I
>know, all she's released is the aforementioned "Miss America" (which I
>agree is brilliant) and a Christmas single a couple of years ago (I've
>never seen or heard it).  I heard some scuttlebut that she's recorded
>stuff, but her label has not been happy with it.  Evidently, she's been
>fighting to get the stuff back from them, but to no avail.  Take this with
>the requisite grain of salt though...I have no inside information.

>By the way, has anyone heard anything more about a new Blue Nile LP?

>-- Jeff

That Mary Margaret O'Hara info is correct. I will add a couple footnotes. She
appears on another Christmas compilation, a live concert with other female
singers. It is called "Count Your Blessings". Also, watch for SWEET RELIEF
II. She will appear on one track.

As for The Blue Nile ... I don't know. I read on this list a release date for
the summer. I look forward to it.

Robert


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:12:38 EST
From: Dez (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Lovelife


Lovelife entered the UK LP charts at number 8.

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:31:48 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S


You wrote:
>
>i found the american pump up the volume 12" today for $2  -- quite the
deal,
>i think.  i remember one of these vinyl pieces was actually worth
something,
>but i don't remember if it was this one.

hey, does anyone know if there is a CD release of "pump up the volume,"
if so, how hard would that be to find today, just curious.

                -robert.


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:11:01 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S


>hey, does anyone know if there is a CD release of "pump up the volume,"
>if so, how hard would that be to find today, just curious.
>

yeah.  i think it's still in print and orderable from 4ad.  i got mine at
best buy for $10 some time ago.

BiZ

and to all of you i owe tapes (there are many), just bear with me.  i'll get
'em out soon (some of the stuff i need to tape is loaned out, and i'm having
difficulty getting it back :(


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:12:14 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: Kieslowski + Preiner's Music


>it is a very sad thing that this (imho) film making genious has passed
>away. but i guess he wouldn't have made any more films even if he lived
>(or so he claimed). not that his death isn't tragic as it is....

>I remember that after the Three Colours trilogy was completed, he said he
>was going to stop making films and just concentrate on smoking full-time...

Yes, hat's what he claimed after "Rouge"... saying something as 'making film
is an useless and futile art'... (don't remember the right words...).

BUT he was presently preparing a new trilogy, called
_Heaven, Hell and Purgatory_ (Ciel, enfer et purgatoire).

It's really a pity, it was one of the best film director IMHO.

La Double Vie de V=E9ronique (The Double Life of Veronica) is one of his
best films, altough really slow, the emotions are on the images, as it is
with _Blue_. _White_ and _Red_ are more living.
The trilogy _Bleu, Blanc, Rouge_ is also called _Libert=E9, Egualit=E9, Frat=
ernit=E9_
(those films are originally in Polish and French)

The 10 TV-films about the 10 commandments are more classical work. His work
was made after an order from the Polish-TV. But the touch of Kieslowski can
be felt also here.

It has also old films, some of them on Polish subjects, but I think there
access is quite difficult... you have to be involved in the Polich context t=
o
understand...

I saw last month a short film of K. (1966, maybe his first?), called
_Urzad_ (position, wicket...). He has just filmed the atmosphere of a positi=
on
for social help... amazing, it's difficult to believe! Poland in 1966 is
realy a Ubu land...

-----------

The music of Preisner (he has made the music of quite all Kieslowski films,
along with works for the really good film _Fatale_ (Louis Malle) and others
directors) really matches Kieslowski art... I recommend the live CD called
_Preisner's Music_ (Virgin)

------
C'd be thislisty... Saw Tortoise live: nice, and the sound is heavier than o=
n
the lp, which recall me some Dif Juz work...

                       ___
Laurent Lapierre      |-,-|
lapierre@micronet.fr  | - | =20


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 21:25:54 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Lovelife: 4AD toy with us yet...


OK, gang...
from the interesting posts that ensued from the sleeve of Lovelife to the
run-off groove of the import clear vinyl (which is a beautiful thing with a
translucent insert)...

Side A reads:
Browning in a sea of Britpop

(I don't think they're referring to Robert Browning, folks.)

Side B reads (for no apparent reason):
No, I've never seen a blind man's buff

Sheesh, I love this label.
CJ


Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:35:43 -0500
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: M/A/R/R/S


> hey, does anyone know if there is a CD release of "pump up the volume,"
> if so, how hard would that be to find today, just curious.
>
>                 -robert.
Yes.  I know there is a domestic us version released on 4'bway records.
Not sure if its in print though.  The 7" version is available on the hard
to find Japanese 12" 1987 compilation.

Alex
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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:22:23 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: somewhat-thislisty TV appearances


Just skimming over the local paper today and it listed some TV appearance by
some bands I thought worth mentioning here:

Thursday night:
Blur appears on The Conan O'Brien show
Tom Jones appears on Leno (perhaps he'll perform one of his TWP covers!!  -
yeah, right.)

Friday night:
Bjork appears on Leno

by the way, anyone have a taped copy of the Cocteau's appearance on The
Tonight Show (?) a year back during their last tour???  if so, please contact
me via private e-mal...

laters..

~~blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:31:39 -0600
From: monica (mmsather@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: cidytalk


If anyone cares, Cindytalk will be in Chicago on this coming Thursday.  The
show is at The Empty Bottle, and it starts at 10:00pm.


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