Subject: Los Angeles list members (v23?)
Subject: yup
Subject: Re: promo values/Shox/Scheer
Subject: ESP
Subject: Re: boo! (Re: a few things)
Subject: Re: Alternative French Music
Subject: MBV news
Subject: Re: Is Treasure best? -Reply
Subject: Re: 23.5.1971 - FSOL
Subject: hnia/warren/timestereo phenomena amongst fans...
Subject: Re: hnia/warren/timestereo phenomena amongst fans...
Subject: tarantula: essential listening
Subject: Re: HNIA soil samples/LA record stores
Subject: Re: boo! (Re: a few things)
Subject: Kelly Deal: "Is David Lee Roth gay?"
Subject: Re: Non-4AD Henry & June Blockbusted
Subject: Re: MBV news (fwd)
Subject: Re: "It's naht ah toomah."
Subject: Rollerskinnys et al.
Subject: Blueshift Signal
Subject: Re: MBV news (fwd)
Subject: Re: Is Treasure best? -Reply
Subject: Re: Baraka
Subject: Re: Savage Oral Hotbed
Subject: thislisty cds and the state of the list
Subject: Re: MBV news (fwd)
Subject: Re: Baraka
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 01:38:58 -0500
In this week's LA Weekly, notice the photo credit for the band Filter in the
music section. Is this the same Paul McMenamin in v23?
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 02:17:54 EST
elvis hitler is just a local band here in detroit that i think likes beer.
that's pretty much it. warren probably just needed a musician and he got one.
i don't think damian was a creative force in either hnia or the dtroit scene.
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 02:23:28 EST
i'll second that chad. all this complaining has got to stop. i'll write later
star vein
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 02:30:30 EST
ooooooh, i'm interested in this. i was thinking about adding a hnia url. i
mentioned it to trey many (hnia drummer also in a very nice pop band on
tooth and nail called velour where he plays geeeetar and he's also in liquor-
ice) said it sounded kool.
rock the ESP beatles!
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 01:40:04 +0600
Mar 1996 17:58:05 -0800
i said:
> >Um, i've got one recommendation: DON'T get "Wake Up!",
others said things such as:
> i say buy WAKE UP. very cheeky and a great
> ensemblage of tunes. bee - u- tee - full...an aural
> treat.
Well, it looks like i'm in the minority and the Boo Radley's "Wake Up"
was well received by some. So does anyone want to take my copy off my hands and
find out for yourself? Drop me a line ([email protected]) and we'll work
something out.
-cz
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 02:41:20 EST
i really like m.c. solaar. he's an awesome rapper. he has sampled sergei
gainsborough. he's truly slick. hector zazou is one heck of an amazing
composer. his disks include dead can dance, cocteau twins, bjork, s. vega,
d. sylvian, r. sakamoto, and so many more.
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 23:49:34 -0800
Yay!
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 16:28:03 -0600
I pulled this from the Music News of the World...enjoy...
My Bloody Valentine Threatens To Release New Album
Not only do My Bloody Valentine have their version of "Map Ref 41xN 93xW"
on the
Wire tribute album Whore (released Mon., Mar. 11) in the UK on WMO Records,
but their own
label has confirmed that MBV will have an album out before the end of the
year. The band has not
released an album since 1991's innovative and breathtaking Loveless, but
that's not from wont of
trying. Traditionally this band spends copious amounts of time in the studio,
and the high standards
that they demand of themselves is legendary. What we hear is this effort has
been delayed
because of a dispute over a mixing desk in the band's recording studio. The
head of A&R at Island
UK told the NME recently that "categorically there would be an album released
in 1996." What
does worry us is the U.S. office of Island told us that "we have no
information about this release.
You know we don't release everything that the UK office does."
---brian
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 01:41:18 -0600
This from a friend of mine with no access to many internet thingies.....=20
I kinda like the list, any other takers?
Ernesto
>
>The list has gots to be:
>
>1.Blue Bell Knoll
>2.Heaven or Las Vegas
>3.Victorialand
>4.Garlands
>5.Four Calendar Cafe
>
>Love's Easy Tears is just an EP but I'd put it between HOLV and
>Victorialand. Treasure has its moments (Donimo, Lorelei) but as an
>album it somewhat falls apart midway through. I am reserving judgment
>for Milk and Kisses but hope to put it at the top.
>
>
=D6=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=
=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=
=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3=D3
"You are the sweetness in my eyes You are an apple in disguise
You are the sweetness i need for life You are the sweetness in my eyes"
=20
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:04:21 -0800
wheee...going to be a good few months...even if we have to wait a year
for the new The The record...
e
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:01:26 -0500
In a message dated 96-03-14 03:19:44 EST, you write:
>P.S. : On an ambient note, a time ago somebody from Astralwerks mentioned
>that FSOL's _cascade_ was going to be re-released. I came across this
>message again a few days ago on the idm-list. Is it out or not ?
Yep.
I just picked that up a few days ago.
David Beardsley
IMMP & Bink! music
[email protected]
Email for a copy of our catalog.. . . .. ...... .. . . . . . . . .
. . .
Superfinemagneticparticles "Murk" is now out.
and I'm actually on this one!
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 00:21:14 -0800
my friend would like to know what the allure is concerning warren
and time stereo and so on and so forth. he just doesn't get it.
he knows warren and he doesn't quite understand the overwhelming
amount of attention warren gets just because he's..uh..warren.
so why the appeal? and why are fans of warren interested in time
stereo? i'd like to see what you have to say so i can pass it
on to my pal...i tried to explain it to him, but there's only
so much i can say...
*k*
...got a cat on my ankle for the rest o'my life...
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 03:03:18 -0800
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, ESP Sunshine wrote:
> so why the appeal? and why are fans of warren interested in time
> stereo? i'd like to see what you have to say so i can pass it
It's not really a 'fan' phenomenon for me. I simply enjoy listening
to Warren's music a great deal. I like Time Stereo because Warren-
related material is released on the label and the label's products in
general radiate this nice home-made, direct level of production aura that
feels nice.
Mike
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:32:19 -0800
It's too bad Ride broke up. For a short time near the end, they did
achieve an exquisite chemistry. For a fleeting moment, there was actually
a band worse than both the Bay City Rollers and Huey Lewis and the News.
I'm not sure it needs to be said, if you follow the logical progression
of things, but I would bet money that no one who has not actually heard
this new album has any idea how bad it is. However much you hated
Carnival of Shite, and however farther you expected them to fall, trust
me, you are NOT prepared.
I cannot think of when I have heard music this awful. It quite literally
toyed a bit with my gag reflex. Just a little. Honestly attempting to
come up with some theoretical comparison, all I can think of is what it
would be like to be forced to look at Greg Brady naked. Here is an album
that actually--not figuratively or in the imaginary world of a cruel
record review, but quite literally--induces mild nausea. Just thinking
about it is close enough.
That's why I recommend it--there are few if any other albums like it. It
seems to have been brilliantly designed to be awful. Every convention
that works has been thrown out while every hackneyed old idea in the book
seems to be lavished over. The singing is awful, like few things I have
ever heard. The rhythms are all fucked up. It's like the drummer is sick
to his stomach and having an anxiety attack at the same time. For his
part, he did not write the good song this time. There is no good song;
everything he touches turns from shit into maggot-eaten lamb brains. You
must find this album and listen to it for as long as you can, because
there are few experiences like it, and I am not kidding around when I
tell you I suspect they actually set out to make the most disgusting
music possible. If so, I have to respect them for it. On the other hand,
the idea of respecting Ride is one I haven't entertained since around
1992. And they certainly look these days like the type of people who
write this sort of music by accident.
BLEAGH.
e
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:21:15 -0500
>1) I noticed in the eyesore database there's a listing for an HNIA song on a
>split Soil Samples 7" that isn't on any of their albums called "darling".
>Anyone heard it? Also, what is on the other side (so I know what to look
>for).
Bash & Pop is on the flip side. I don't think that there was a p/s with it
at all. It's blue vinyl with a yella label.
Great song that *does* sound somewhat like Mazzy Star. Features Denise James
on vocals.
jason
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:04:47 -0500
In a message dated 96-03-16 02:37:43 EST, cz writes:
>
>> >Um, i've got one recommendation: DON'T get "Wake Up!",
>
> others said things such as:
>
>> i say buy WAKE UP. very cheeky and a great
>> ensemblage of tunes. bee - u- tee - full...an aural
>> treat.
>cz then said this:
> Well, it looks like i'm in the minority and the Boo Radley's "Wake
>Up"
>was well received by some. So does anyone want to take my copy off my hands
>and
>find out for yourself? Drop me a line ([email protected]) and we'll work
>something out.
>
>-cz
I too have a copy of "wake up" I would love to get off my hands. I will sell
it for $6 to the first person who asks (and has the cash to back it up) plus
postage.
jennifer
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:47:49 +0100
I've just read an interview with Solid State. Kelley Deal says things like:
You can find the whole story in this months Turntable (online magazine) on:
Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, March 16, 1996
... [email protected]
... http://www.luna.nl/~efdee/Catalogue/4AD.html
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:27:55 -0800
> It's not the bisexuality. They didn't carry Henry & June because it
> was the first film to be rated NC-17 (US rating that means no one
Apologies that this is so far away from 4AD, but...
Also, Henry & June was not rated NC-17 because of the bisexuality
shown. The board rated it NC-17 because of a postcard shown of a woman in
an erotic pose with an octopus.
David.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:40:28 -0500
there is a new MBV track on a compilation of music put out by the folks
at 'red hot + ______' (dance, blue, etc) its called "incidental peace"...
not sure why i didnt buy it when i first saw it, i think i was short on
cash. ANyway, I forget the name of the comp, but it seems to be a double
cd thingie of ambient/wash/psychadelia/trance on an enhanced
cd (w/ quicktime movies for all us propeller heads)... plus profits go to aids
research.... god why didnt i get this the first time around? Ive gotta go
to the record store today!
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:10:00 CST
hk wrote:
>PS. Oh yeh, while we're on the very unthislisty subject of Bollockbusters,
>could someone tell me why, aside from the blatantly obvious reason of sheer
>cluelessness, that they would file videotapes of 'Absolutely Fabulous' in
>the "Alternative Lifestlyes" section? Although I've only seen one or two
>episodes, I fail to see the connection. Could very well be cluelessness on
>my part, but I'm just curious.
I believe it's because they *god forbid* smoke a joint from time to time.
And of
course, NO ONE smokes marijuana in the U.S. (yeah, right), hence this
brilliant British
comedy is labeled "alternative". Normal people don't do that sort of thing. :)
Lysa
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:15:39 -0800
Two things. First I just have to say again that
the new Rollerskate Skinny album is nothing short of
a masterpiece. I don't know how they do it, but it's the
kind of busy, almost overloaded noisy pop with an undercurent
of strangeness that leaves me bubbling over with excitement.
and second (into astronomer mode) comet Hyakutake is
now easily visible in binoculars in the southeast around
midnight. It's growing brighter every day, and soon will be
passing overhead when it should be readily visible to the
unaided eye. Check Sky and Telescope magazine for finding charts.
Recent listens having nothing to do with 4AD:
Dogbowl and Kramer - Gunsmoke. A few brilliant songs in the
usual warped Dogbowl style, and the rest very good. Kramer
doesn't sing on this one like he did on Hot Day In Waco,
and although Stephen Tunney seems to have peaked with Flan,
this is still a fine listen. Plus it includes the most
explicit song about oral sex ever written.
Negativland - Sex Dirt. Nothing new or revolutionary about this
album which is fairly ho-hum. The Weatherman goes on and on about
dirt, cleaning aids, nonsense sayings, and so on, just like
you'd expect him to do, and it all ends up being pretty annoying
rather than amusing. Even though it does include a sample
of something we gave them, it's best to avoid.
Holiday Flyer - Try Not To Worry. A nice, pretty collection
of Sarah-Sunday indiepop. Only heard it once so far, but it's
destined to be a favorite soon.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:16:09 -0500
Greetings fellow listies...
I recently picked up the Bedazzled comp. "Woke up Smiling"
and have absolutely fallen in love with the song "Halo" by
Blueshift Signal. I was wondering if anyone out there owns
or has heard their self-released disc "Seven Natural Scenes"?
Is it anywhere near as stunning as Halo?
The cd is available from Bedazzled mail order and I just want
to know whether it is worth it to sink my money into.
cheers,
-------------------------------
Robert Foster. Guelph, CANADA.
"I am, therefore.... I think?!"
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:06:39 -0700
If this is the disc I think you're referring to, it's called "Offbeat" ala
Red Hot & ____. It's a single disc with quick time movies on it somewhere.
Now let me warn you...
There are two songs on it that involve MBV: (1) Mark Eitzel meets MBV and
(2) MBV meets Skylab. The first "song" is like a spoken word interlude, highly
remeniscent of Jim Morrison on "American Prayer," and lasting only 45 seconds.
The MBV element, on this track, is a wash of soundscape lapping against the
edge of Eitzel's drama.
As an MBV fiend I was left salivating pathetically--waiting for
something to happen!
The second song is definitely more fulfilling--in the sense that it is
just over five minutes! It's a cool fusion of the first track on the disc,
by Skylab, and the Mark meets MBV thing. Here MBV goes for broke with their
architecture of layered loops and spirals, but with a vibe and sound that seems
like a transmutation of the epilogue of Only Shallow from Loveless or the song
Sometimes from Loveless through a contemporary "ambient" lense.
WHERE IS THEIR NEXT ALBUM! AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEE
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:57:54 -0600
>
>>
>>The list has gots to be:
>>
>>1.Blue Bell Knoll
>>2.Heaven or Las Vegas
>>3.Victorialand
>>4.Garlands
>>5.Four Calendar Cafe
>>
No, No, NO! You got it all wrong! The list should be:
1) Treasure
2) Heaven Or Las Vegas
3) Blue Bell Knoll
4) head Over Heels
5) Four calendar Cafe
6) Victorialand
7) Garlands
As for ep=B4s...
1) Love=B4s Easy tears
2) Aikea Guinea
3) Spangle maker
4) Tiny Dynamine/Echoes...
5) Sunburst...
6) Iceblink Luck
7) All the other ones.
Pepe
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:35:47 -0600
The film your friend had probably seen 10 yrs. ago is called Koyaanisqatsi
(Life Out Of Balance). It's one of my favorite films...I just finished a term
paper on it. I recommend it completely. e-mail me for more info...
Aaron
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:14:43 -0600
That's actually Savage AURAL Hotbed...pretty cool group. They performed at
Carleton College with the Flying Foot Forum, an incredible tap dance troupe.
Industrial, wonderful, hard-core tap dancing. Amazing.
Aaron
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:47:48 -0500
i made a little trip to las vegas and phoenix for spring break and saw a
couple of thislisty cds that people have been asking about lately, so i
thought i'd inform you:
the underground (in las vegas) had three cindytalk cds used for
$7.99 each. i picked up 'wappinschaw' for myself, but there are two
others left (sorry... can't remember which ones). i've NEVER seen these
for less than $20, so it seemed like a good deal to me.
and, tower records in mesa had a copy of hnia's 'king of sweet' for
around $20 new...
i've also been reading quite a few posts of late regarding how useful
this list is and general gripes about content, not wanting to delete
messages, etc., and thought i'd throw in my experience this week as a
more positive example -- perhaps a 4AD-L success story? :)
anyway, i picked up a number of wonderful cds by listening to the
recommendations of members of this list. had i not been subscribed, i
most likely never would have been introduced to moose, elysium,
jessamine, shiFt, alison's halo, or half-string (got to meet kimber from
half-sting at stinkweed's too -- probably the highlight of my trip!). so
although it is sometimes a bit tedious to wade through posts on
groups/topics that aren't of particular interest to me, the introductions
to excellent music that i would otherwise never have heard of makes it
worthwhile to me. so to those of you who have recommended any or all of
the above groups, thanks!
alright, enough of that sappiness...
brian
[email protected]