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Subject: Eyesore .. bargain !!
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:19:39 +1030
From: Wellen Dowd (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Re: MCI's phone #
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:23:22 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: My God, I only made a simple mistake
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:28:58 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Lovelife: The Tour (part one)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:18:12 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:19:17 GMT
From: MARK (9570969X@MMU.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:09 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:11 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: DOH!
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:15:30 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:14 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:10:58 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:16 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: both thislisty news and not... (CT, ruby, liz phair,
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:07:05 -0800
From: Candice A Mack (mackc@WATNXT06.UCR.EDU)
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:17:50 -0500
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: mci putz
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:30:38 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: promo values/Shox/Scheer
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:16:43 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: A Postmodern HNIA (fwd)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:58:50 -0500
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: promo values
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:37:42 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: still some stuff left ...
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:20:56 -0600
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: Re: promo values
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:09:46 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Rollerskate Skinnny
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:55:05 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Elvis Hitler?!
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:45:03 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:07:52 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: Savage Oral Hotbed (sort of)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:44:01 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) briank
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:30:13 -0700
From: "WebAdmin (Owen Jones)" (webadmin@cyberhighway.net)
Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:48:42 -0500
From: "jones, hank" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Tarnation live in Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:03:50 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Nick Cave @ Tower Records NYC
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:06:34 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: Brian Krater
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:42:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Dan Thibadeau (dragon@cyberhighway.net)
Subject: mci guy
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:03:19 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:45:37 -0600
From: The Grand Kumquat (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rollerskate Skinnny
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:42:50 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: promo values/Shox/Scheer
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:26:31 +0600
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@CSTAR.AC.COM)
Subject: Re: mci guy (revenge is sweet...)
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:41:57 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:19:39 +1030
From: Wellen Dowd (kymtosh@STUDENT.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU)
Subject: Eyesore .. bargain !!

              96 00:29:42 am

  Picked up a second hand copy of Lonely is an Eyesore from a local
 shop for $5 (Australian) ... one of the guys behind the counter
 was going spastic because he didn't even know he had it in the
 shop !
--

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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:23:22 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: MCI's phone #


what for?  wouldn't it just be easier to ignore the stupid mail and get on
with your lives.... i mean, this person just did this once, i doubt he'll do
it again.  it would be a different thing if he bugged us several times a
week, now this is stupid, IMHO...

At 03:54 PM 3/10/96 CST, you wrote:
>i couldn't find MCI's customer service # (maybe someone else could post it?)
>here's their service/sales phone #:  1-800-950-5555.  that's the consumer
>sales/service number.  i strongly urge all of you to call and complain about
>this unwanted solicitation, (particularly since it's a toll-free number and
>thus their expense) so that it doesn't happen again in the future.  just in
>case you didn't save your old mail, the guy's name is Brian Krater.  make
>sure you give 'em the name.
>
>thanks,
>
>BiZ, who's got a phone call to make
>
>

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:28:58 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: My God, I only made a simple mistake


okay, okay... after reading this, I take back what I said before...
seems like this guy is a real asshole and I am even willing to contribute to
whatever ends up happening to get this guy pissed off...
okay?

-z.

At 03:42 PM 3/10/96 CST, you wrote:
>here's what that bastard from mci had to say when i confronted him about
>posting commercial solicitations to newsgroups/mailing lists, and what i
>said back.  as soon as i get offline, i'm going to find mci's customer
>service number, call them, and complain about this guy, who was foolish
>enough to give us his full name.  i'll post the number when i'm online
>again.  if all 400+ of us call and complain about this guy (and kind souls
>forward this to other lists he's hit), my guess is that they'll take some
>sort of action to deter his little spree.
>
>BiZ
>
>------------------------------
>Sun, 10 Mar 96 15:37:55 CST
>
>>> >Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net
>>Thank You I just made a simple mistake.
>
>it's obvious from the nature of your reply that you don't believe what you
>did was a mistake, seeing as how you plan to continue to do this and make
>MILLIONS of dollars.
>
>>I can't believe you would actually
>>spend the energy to respond with such an imature attitude.
>
>and i can't believe you don't know that immature is spelled with two m's.
>
>I plan on
>>becoming a millionare in 2 years with this program.
>
>in the meantime, think about the people who get internet access from a payed
>provider.  (this does not include me.)  they have to pay money to download
>commercial solicitations that they, for the most part, have no interest in
>reading.  now why do you think that anonymous solicitation over the internet
>is frowned upon?  because if it was rampant, the internet
>would slowly die as people thought, "i'm not paying x dollars/month just to
>get 30 messages about a topic that's relevant to my life and 300 commercial
>solicitations."  not to mention the waste of bandwidth people such as
>yourself create.
>
>>Its too bad you don't
>>get it in this life.
>>sincerely.
>>Brian Krater
>>P.s. It's funny you tried to upset me by sending me several messages but
>>my computer is so fucking fast that its no problem.
>
>but you'll have to delete them all sometime, won't you?  if it was no
>problem, why did you bother to write back to me in the first place?
>
>BiZ
>
>


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:18:12 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Lovelife: The Tour (part one)


DAY ONE: BUCKLEY TIVOLI

On arrival in Buckley after a very quick hitch, I discovered that due to =
=0Athe recording of the Top of the Pops, the gig had been cancelled.  =0ABu=
mmer.

DAY TWO: LIVERPOOL LOMAX

A (far too) small venue (Capacity approx 200?), the Lomax had been =0Asold =
out for weeks.  Coast, the support were on first and they put on a =0Areaso=
nable show.  Then it was Lush.  The tiny room now packed solid =0Awith swea=
ty bodies, the band launched into =93Runaway=94, and performed a =0Aspirite=
d set of songs mainly from =93Split=94 and =93Lovelife=94, the earlier =0Am=
aterial represented solely by =93Deluxe=94, =93Sweetness & Light=94 and =93=
For =0ALove=94 (which Miki dedicated to the =93oldies=94 in the audience),.=
  but the =0Aaudience was happy, preferring to dance with more enthusiasm t=
o the =0Alikes of =93Single Girl=94 and =93Hypocrite=94 than the older trac=
ks.  =93Undertow=94 =0Amade its live debut tonight, as did =93Last Night=94=
, which was the first =0Aencore.  Perhaps not surprisingly the second encor=
e (and final song) =0Awas the current hit =93Ladykillers=94, which most of =
the audience had =0Aprobably watched being performed on Top of the Pops bef=
ore coming out =0Atonight.  Naturally, it brought the house down, and broug=
ht to a close the =0Afirst night of what looks to be a promising tour...

DAY THREE: LEEDS THE COCKPIT

 Another tiny venue, this time tucked away somewhere under Leeds =0ACentral=
 Train Station, the Cockpit had such a late start time that the band =0Awer=
e forced to play only a half hour set, which ended up being pretty =0Amuch =
a =93greatest hits=94 package, giving the audience as much as =0Apossible i=
n the short time available.  Bizarre that a band doing so well =0Aover here=
 at the moment (Ladykillers is receiving A LOT of radio and TV =0Aairplay) =
should have such time and space restrictions foisted upon =0Athem.

DAY FOUR: SHEFFIELD LEADMILL

Having drunk far too much at Leeds, I decided to stay sober for this one, =
=0Aand I=92m glad I did!  The best gig of the tour so far, this reminded me=
 just =0Ahow high music alone can make you.  A larger venue this time, the =
=0ALeadmill was still packed almost solid even during Coast=92s set.  By th=
e =0Atime Lush came onstage, the atmosphere was electric, and almost =0Astr=
aight away the audience were thrashing about wildly, one =0Acrowd-surfer ca=
tching the microphone stand with his boot, the =0Amicrophone hitting Miki i=
n the face.  It looked like quite a hard blow, =0Aknocking the microphone o=
ut of its stand, but Miki didn=92t seem TOO =0Aperturbed (=93You nearly had=
 my eye out there!=94).  The crowd continued to =0Apogo and surf wildly eve=
n to such an atmospheric number as =93Light from =0Aa Dead Star=94 which wa=
s played for the first time tonight, and the antics =0Adown the front were =
making the band laugh.  However, the band were =0Aeasily outperforming the =
audience, this was a blindingly brilliant gig; =0A=93Undertow=94 and =93S &=
 L=94 in particular stick in my mind from tonight as =0Abeing two of the hi=
ghlights when the music really SOARED.  Not =0Asurprisingly, a third encore=
 was called for, a Wire cover version (NOT =0A=93Outdoor Miner=94) the name of w
ich escapes me for the mo=
ment.  All in =0Aall: wonderful.  I=92m looking forward to Edinburgh with e=
ager anticipation =0A(Newcastle and Middlesbrough being inaccessible to me =
due to work!).


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:19:17 GMT
From: MARK (9570969X@MMU.AC.UK)
Subject: unsubscribe


  {<9570969X@MMU.AC.UK>}


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:09 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

At 03:21 AM 3/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>


No, thanks



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                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:11 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

At 03:21 AM 3/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>

I don't think so.



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                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:15:30 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: DOH!


PLEASE accept my humble appology for the last several messages!  I meant to
send them to our friend from MCI.  SORRY!

-Tony


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                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:14 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

At 03:21 AM 3/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>

Sure sign yourself up!


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    Tony Jacobson                              tonyman@xmission.com
                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:10:58 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

At 03:21 AM 3/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>

How fast is your computer?



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                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:07:16 -0700
From: Tony Jacobson (tonyman@XMISSION.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

At 03:21 AM 3/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>

Can I call you collect?



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    Tony Jacobson                              tonyman@xmission.com
                 http://www.xmission.com/~tonyman/
             ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/t/tonyman
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:07:05 -0800
From: Candice A Mack (mackc@WATNXT06.UCR.EDU)
Subject: both thislisty news and not... (CT, ruby, liz phair,

              suzanne vega...)
          Mike Toji , Man mf Lee ,
          Sean Flinn 

ruby, perry farrell, as well as members of alice in chains, pearl jam, and
cypress hill are all contributing new songs for the soundtrack to "the
cable guy," starring jim carrey and ben stiller. the album's due may 16.
the farrell track is expected to be a version of lou reed's "satellite of
love."

liz phair has recorded a new song, "rocket boy," for the soundtrack of
"stealing beauty," the bernardo bertolucci film starring liv tyler and
jeremy irons.  mazzy star and the cocteau twins also have new songs in
the flim, which will premiere at the cannes film festival in may. a
soundtrack album is due may 28.

nellee hooper (wheee!  *bjork* producer) and flood--not brian eno, as
previously reported--are producing the new u2 album in dublin. hooper is
also scoring the film "romeo and juliet" starring leonardo dicaprio and
claire danes.

suzanne vega, who has a new song on the soundtrack for the upcoming films
"cats and dogs," is finishing a new album, due this summer.

-c, who doesn't usually plagiarize from the LA Times, sunday calendar
section...

It is the Night that solaces
        Spirits devoured by the woes of loneliness...
                                        --Charles Baudelaire


Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:17:50 -0500
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: unsubscribe


nwnd@grove.iup.edu
bryan c. mickle


please, unsubscribe...now.thank you

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:30:38 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: mci putz


Through a few guesses, I think I've determined that the mci
administrator's address is admin@cyberhighway.net  I suggest everyone
fire off a little note there expressing your displeasure.

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:16:43 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: promo values/Shox/Scheer


On Fri, 8 Mar 1996 BluBelKnol@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> ...it just seems as if there
> is always someone on this list trying to provoke an arguement - and with the
> wrong person.
> (ex.: those blaming Guernica for accepting a bid of $42 on the "Mai..."
> sampler)  this is totally obsurd

...seems that the only one wigging-out on this subject is b.b.k.,
refusing to let the thread die until somebody acknowledges the
wonderfulness of black-market profiteering...

nobody is blaming Guernica for paying her/his hard earned cash for an
item s/he really wants.  or for anything at all, for that matter.  the
point is simple, and simply this:  somebody is making big bucks from
trafficking in goods they have no right to. 4ad isnt making money from
it. The artists arent receiving any royalties from it (it=promotional
samplers).  And in a better world, the profit motive would be constantly
checked by a desire to help one's fellow man.  like helping a fellow
listie get something they'd really like.  that's it.


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:58:50 -0500
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: A Postmodern HNIA (fwd)


Heh, it happened again.  A newspaper review of a showing of Quay Brothers
films mentioned their videos for the "British band" His Name Is Alive.
The sad thing is the paper was the Detroit Free Press and Livonia, the home
of HNIA, is just outside Detroit.

                                         John McIntyre
                                          Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
                                          Michigan State University


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 09:37:42 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: promo values


I was just ignoring this whole issue until daniel klyn spake:
>somebody is making big bucks from
>trafficking in goods they have no right to. 4ad isnt making money from
>it. The artists arent receiving any royalties from it (it=promotional
>samplers).

It is in general perfectly legal to resell CDs or anything else as long
as duplicates aren't made. As with any other good the manufacturer gets
his/her bux on the first sale. When we sold our '91 Prelude last fall
Honda didn't make any money on the deal, nor should they have. They
already got our bux in '91.
Now, I grant that promos have "not for resale" stamped on them. I don't
think these have any legal force behind them -- the most they can do is
stop sending you any more promos if they find out you've been selling
them. And of course someone who receives a promo second hand is under no
compunctions whatsoever. By then it's strictly "the price of an item is
exactly what someone is willing to pay for it." If you have several
people who want to buy some item, I don't know what fairer criteria to
use to decide which one gets it. Any ideas?

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
             Dinosaurs early, dinosaurs later,
             Dinosaurs jammed in an elevator!   ________________________
                                                http://www.mooseyard.com


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:20:56 -0600
From: Steven Szaks (gszaks@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU)
Subject: still some stuff left ...


well, I tried to sell some stuff on this list, and I still have a lot of
it..if I can't get rid of this stuff by next wed. (3/20), I am going to
take it to my local rip-off shop, and get rid of it there...please
respond to me, and not the list:  gszask@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu


all are on cd, the first response to an item get's it--this is not an
auction..if you don't like my price (all include postage), offer
something else!!
all are ppd!


belly
moon cd-5       7trk    us(small scratch on spine)      $4ppd
slow dust cd-5  4trk    uk                              $5ppd

breeders
cannonball cd-5 4trk    us                              $4ppd

frank black
los angeles     1trk    us promo                        $3ppd

lush
delux           3trk    us promo (3 different mixes     $4ppd

pale saints
throwing back the apple     1 trk       us  promo       $3ppd

kendra smith
valley of the morning sun       2trk(2 mixes) us promo  $3ppd

this mortal coil
promo compilation from the boxed set(digipak in rough shape) cat#pro cd-5876
                                                                $10ppd
throwing muses
bright yellow gun       1trk    us  promo               $3ppd

non 4ad
cocteau twins
twinlights              us promo (sealed)               $4ppd
otherness               "       "       "               $4ppd

ride
twisterella             4trk    usa                     $3ppd
vapour trail            "       "                       $3ppd

stereolab
french disko            2trk    uk                      $4ppd
lo-fi                   4trk    uk                      $5ppd

v/a
working holiday comp.                                   $6 ppd

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:09:46 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Re: promo values

              11, 96 09:37:42 am

Jens Alfke said:
>
> If you have several
> people who want to buy some item, I don't know what fairer criteria to
> use to decide which one gets it. Any ideas?

I don't think auctions are 'fair' by any means.  The item just goes to the
person who has the most money (at least the most with which a person can
buy that item).  What about people who can't afford such item or is in a
difficult position to acquire it (like not living in the same country as
the seller)?  That doesn't mean they want it any less than the person
shelling out big money for it.

I always thought a lottery was a fair way of doing business, as long as you're
not interested in gouging the buyer.  It could be something as simple as
'pick a number between 1-100' or you could set something up a little more
elaborate.  Of course, this type of system means nothing to the person who
is only out to make a buck or people who feel they should be compensasted
for providing a 'service.'

Ed
--
Edward Wakabayashi                    /\   You've kissed everybody else's
                                      \/   so you can kiss my ass as well
zorg@alois.icon.palo-alto.med.va.gov  /\      -*Her Majesty the Baby*-
zorg@interramp.com                    \/

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:55:05 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Rollerskate Skinnny


The new album by Rollerskate Skinny is either out now,
or will be very soon, and is entitled "Horsedrawn Wishes".
The departure of Jimi Shields seems not to have mattered
much at all, since this album is every bit as quirky,
noisy, and just plain jaw-dropping-on-the-floor brilliant
as their debut album "Shoulder Voices". It actually goes
BEYOND my expectations, completely fulfilling my dreams
for another near perfect album. When's the last time
THAT happened?! Bands either have their sophomore slump
with crappy material or they decide to completely rework their
sound thereby alienating their fan base. But this second
album shows none of that. If anything it's better and more
consistent than the first, and is as much a work of genius
as Home Is In Your Head (HNIA), D.I. Go Pop (Disco Inferno)
or Skipper (Daniel Figgis) [and, if you can believe this,
has similar elements from all three of these bands].

To give you some idea what Rollerskate Skinny is all about,
I'll post my review from a few issues ago, when I have it
handy. They're compared frequently to Mercury Rev.


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:45:03 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Elvis Hitler?!


If you check the liner notes to Livonia, they thank Damian Lang and he
appears courtesy of Elvis Hitler - Restless records, which leads me to
believe they are still togeather as of '90.  Pretty Scary.  I risked
US$1.99 on Disgraceland, but I never really listen to it, just kinda like
having it around.  It really has little in common with any HNIA stuff
(duh, i guess).  I guess hk@NEOSOFT.COM's review was pretty on the mark,
matbe it would be good to listen to on you're way to the MONSTER TRUCK
RALLY.

Later,



James 

... it is better to build upon the shifting sands
than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:07:52 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

flood him...

NOT THE LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:44:01 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Savage Oral Hotbed (sort of)


>you might be intrested in them. They drum on anything they can get their
>hands on (oil drums, plastic trash cans, saw blades, actual drums) an
>dthey have one of the better live shows I have seen. (The part where they
>take power grinders to oil drums is really impressive, who would have
>ever thought you could play a scale using only simple power tools) I

Actually, I think Die Warsaw got popular doing this a couple of years
ago,
not that it's not still cool, just thought you might be interested
(makes for a good stage show because big fat sparks fly into the audience)

Later,



James 

... it is better to build upon the shifting sands
than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:58:21 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) briank


This is what happened when I sent notice to briank's account

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:30:13 -0700
From: "WebAdmin (Owen Jones)" (webadmin@cyberhighway.net)
Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) briank


*Thank you* for letting us know!!!!

We do noe tolerate this behavior on our service from our users, we are going
to warn him, and possibly remove his account!

Thank you for the information and PLEASE let us know if this happens again...

-Owen
----------------------------------------------------------------
moran@hal-pc.org









At 12:12 PM 3/10/96 +0000, you wrote:
>------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
>
>Today I recieved the following piece of drivel from
>
>> HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE
>> CALLS. We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed
>> anywhere in the U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed
>> in 6 second increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly
>> service charge. No hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or
>> Residential. Direct inquires to, Mr. Brian Krater at
>> briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You
>
>I recieved this advertisement on 4ad-list (address
>4ad-l@american.edu); a mailing list dedicated
>to the discussion of the music released on the 4ad record label and
>other similar musics.  I do not feel that this list is the
>appropriate place for Mr. Krater to be posting his advertisements, as
>this is an audience that neither asks for nor appreciates these
>posts.  I ask that you will please forward to Mr. Krater our
>displeasure and suggest that he not do it again, and if he does I
>would request that some disciplinary action be taken against him.
>
>thank you
>
>moran@hal-pc.org
>
>
>
>
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Owen Jones
Cyberhighway Internet services
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:48:42 -0500
From: "jones, hank" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE


And for all of the self righteous, pompus, petty, worthless people in the
world I send you a a heart felt "FUCK YOU!!!"   For your information I
followed your damn instrunctions mabye you ar the ignorant one who cant
express themselves enough that common people can understand the
instructions.  So get of your fucking high horse and just do what was asked
of you and get me and anyone else who askes off of this fucking worthless list.



>On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Emiel Efdee wrote:
>
>> >D
>>
>>
>> Cool! Lets make a word:
>>
>>
>> U
>>
>yeah!  better yet, let's write a whole sentence to all morons who don't read
>        the FAQ and don't know how to unsub.  it makes me wonder, these people
>        who don't know the right way to unsub, are they the same geniuses who
>        go to a club for the hype, get bored, then keep asking everyone where
>        the exit is?
>>>D
>>U
>H
>
>

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 22:03:50 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Tarnation live in Amsterdam


I've been to a Tarnation concert in Amsterdam yesterday. First time I saw
the faces behind the music. They've got many fans over here. About twenty.
The other twenty people in the audience were friends and family of the
worst support act ever (I can't remember the name but they were playing
cheap country covers whith a bad american accent - cause they were Dutch)

So I could say it was just like Tarnation was playing in my living room...
I liked the concert, a lot of non-gentle creatures songs. The bass-player
looked just like he could fell asleep at any time.

In a few weeks Bel Canto is playing at the same location (should I go?)


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, March 11, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:06:34 -0500
From: "...handsome devil..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Nick Cave @ Tower Records NYC


clue me in if Nick Cave is not thislistie...

but for those in the nyc area who enjoy NC's work, he will be promoting his
        new album this coming wednesday (March 13th) at Tower 4th & Broadway,
        at 5pm.  hope he signs my Birthday Party Hits album.  :)

mine always;

Joherius Rex

                        "For worse to be Love's lover
                     Than the lover that Love has scorned."
                                I Let Love In (Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds)

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:21:37 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

>flood him...
>
>NOT THE LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't flood him anymore.  his list admins have temporarily suspended his
account (he was violating the terms of his service agreement with the
company by soliciting) until they can "sit down" with him and get things
straightened out:

From: Dan Thibadeau (dragon@cyberhighway.net)
Subject: Re: Brian Krater

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:42:32 -0700 (MST) We are a local Internet Service provider. The message you got was from one of our users. This is against the contract that he signed with our company and we are taking action to make sure this user won't do it again. His account is disabled until we can discuss with him what he has done. This is the first time this has happened on our service. So far it looks like he is just a "clueless newbie" that was probably trying to post to a classified "ads" list and your lists name popped up in his queries. I appoligize for this and hope we can fix this problem NOW, all admins here are aware of what has happened and action is being taken. Dan Thibadeau Chief System Admin. CyberHighway Inc. "i know a place, a beautiful place, where the moon kisses the sea in a nighttime embrace. forever and ever. . ." -pram "sea swells and distant squalls"

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:03:19 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: mci guy

              20:19:39 -0800

Sorry to dwell on this but ...

 In response to Brian Krater's spam i said:
>   > Please DO NOT send this to lists on unrelated topics.

  replied:
>    I'm sorry, I thought I was sending this to one
>   person.   What is this list about?
>   B-

In light of his response to BiZ this makes his "Oh really?" routine *even less*
believable.  Would anyone else like to send him an ASCII copy of the FAQ to tell
him what the list is about?

-cz

Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:45:37 -0600
From: The Grand Kumquat (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: NEW FLAT RATE LONG DISTANCE CALLING PLAN FROM MCI 11.9 PER

              MINUTE INTERSTATE

>HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO SAVE MONEY NOW ON ALL YOUR LONG DISTANCE CALLS.
>We offer a flat 11.9 cents a minute rate to calls placed anywhere in the
>U.S. interstate including alaska and hawaii billed in 6 second
>increments 24 hours a day 7 days a week.  No monthly service charge. No
>hidden fees. Free to switch. Business or Residential.
>Direct inquires to,
>Mr. Brian Krater at briank@cyberhighway.net   Thank You

_|^^^^^^^    -"Why are you banging your head against that wall?"
_||     |               -"Because it will feel so good when I stop!"
-|o>  @ |
-|<     /                               lawmic@bethel.edu
-|}    /
-| \  |                   +h3 6r& & 6l0r10u5 kumQu@+ "Ouch, My head hurts"

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:42:50 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rollerskate Skinnny


On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Dewdrops Records wrote:

> The new album by Rollerskate Skinny is either out now,
> or will be very soon, and is entitled "Horsedrawn Wishes".

Do you have label/number information?

> The departure of Jimi Shields seems not to have mattered

Why did he leave?

Mike

Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:26:31 +0600
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@CSTAR.AC.COM)
Subject: Re: promo values/Shox/Scheer


At 08:16 AM 3/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Mar 1996 BluBelKnol@AOL.COM wrote:
>>
>> ...it just seems as if there
>> is always someone on this list trying to provoke an arguement - and with the
>> wrong person.
>> (ex.: those blaming Guernica for accepting a bid of $42 on the "Mai..."
>> sampler)  this is totally obsurd
>
>...seems that the only one wigging-out on this subject is b.b.k.,
>refusing to let the thread die until somebody acknowledges the
>wonderfulness of black-market profiteering...
>
>nobody is blaming Guernica for paying her/his hard earned cash for an
>item s/he really wants.  or for anything at all, for that matter.  the
>point is simple, and simply this:  somebody is making big bucks from
>trafficking in goods they have no right to. 4ad isnt making money from
>it. The artists arent receiving any royalties from it (it=promotional
>samplers).  And in a better world, the profit motive would be constantly
>checked by a desire to help one's fellow man.  like helping a fellow
>listie get something they'd really like.  that's it.

Hmmm, like the way that the Picasso estate makes a percentage of each and
every resale of each and every piece that Pablo every created.  Or possibly
the little dividends that are credited to each and every descendant of the
Ming dynasty for each vase that is sold at Christie's.

Let's face it:  Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay.


Chad

"Move inside my daydream"


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:41:57 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: mci guy (revenge is sweet...)


I emailed the loser's postmaster and got this heartwarming reply:

>We are a local Internet Service provider.  The message you got was from
>one of our users.  This is against the contract that he signed with our
>company and we are taking action to make sure this user won't do it again.
>
>His account is disabled until we can discuss with him what he has done.  This
>is the first time this has happened on our service.  So far it looks like
>he is just a "clueless newbie" that was probably trying to post to a
>classified "ads" list and your lists name popped up in his queries.
>
>I appoligize for this and hope we can fix this problem NOW, all admins
>here are aware of what has happened and action is being taken.
>
>Dan Thibadeau
>Chief System Admin.
>CyberHighway Inc.

Death to spammers!
Now, what were we talking about?

__________                                            __________________
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             Dinosaurs early, dinosaurs later,
             Dinosaurs jammed in an elevator!   ________________________
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