Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:36:46 -0500
Hey, anyone heard of this release? I discovered it while sifting
through a pile o' CD's at the Station. It has a Dead Can Dance track,
which makes this post appropriate to tha list. It's "The Host of
Seraphim." It also has tracks from The Residents, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Ravi
Shankar, Popol Vuh, and others. It's on Milan Entertainment. Only
listened to the DCD and the Residnts, and those were pretty cool.
Anyway, just wonderin'.
"If there's been a way to build it,
There'll be a way to destroy it,
Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:53:45 -0500
On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, mbdtssv wrote:
> Are there any Mazzy Star fans out there? If so, can anyone tell me when/if
> they are releasing any new material?
they've put hope sandoval on a strict diet of haagen daas and french
fries, and they now call themselves Mojave 3...
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 16:28:50 GMT
>also, picked up the 12" of Modern English - in the gladhouse, today, the
>B-side has two nude women wrestling over the 4AD logo, weird, was this on
>all the 12"s?
My recollection is that it is on some others, but in a very distorted form.
For years, I couldn't work out what the labels in the middle of the vinyl
were portraying but then some of them became clear when I saw an
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:00:29 -0500
sorry to all, but i got an offer about three seconds after posting that i
had it for sale! the reason i offered it in the first place was so that
somebody who wanted it way more than i could enjoy it. being an insatiable
collector myself, i know how it feels. i also know about exploitation,
and NOBODY should be selling a free cd for 43 dollars. I kinda feel bad
about asking 20, but with postage, the profits will allow me to buy
something else (like a promo copy of the new cocteau twins cd)...
in a perfect world, 4ad wouldnt make so few copies of such cool shit.
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:40:56 -0800
Okay, so what happened? I drove 50 miles to see a no show! Is this it
for the Bay Area?? Or is it on to Los
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:19:20 -0800
Mar 1996 14:48:42 +0000
> On a 4AD note: I heard that Ivo kicked the Red House
> Painters off the label because he didn't like Mark
> Kozolek's guitar solos. What a bloody fool!
Please NOT this again! We've hashed over this too many times and had too many
flames on this topic already. Yes, Ivo is probably a fool for doing that but
most of us haven't heard the demos.
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 01:02:40 -0800
Hei beibii-tachi. From my currently Japan-ed friend:
"Today I went to an elementary school. Was through Obirin. Had fun, was
asked alot of questions about america, ate lunch, got a "thank you" poster.
I came home and found a package I've been waiting for: from the
director of that show I appeared in; he told me his younger brother
performs noise; I didn't really believe him. But didn't turn down his
offer to send a CD or two. It came today. CD, two LPs, 3 books. The
guy is also an artist; one book is a children's book, one I can't figure
out (It's all in sanscrit), one is a book called "diary in [mongolia?]".
The CD is unbelievable. The spine looks like this
*** (oh, first, the bro's name is Ohtake Shinro) ***
PIPELINE 24 smash hits by 24 puzzle punk bands shinro ohtake uea
The guy's brother got together with Y.Eye and 'covered' songs by 24 minor
bands (including ganja farmers). "Covered" because I *doubt* the
originals sounded like this. [?] ......"
So I'm gonna send my friend a postcard tomorrow begging for air and some
more info. Did we already cover this here? Shinro Ohtake, noise man?
Crazy coincidence, I guess. Actually, my friend and I seem to run into
a lot of those...
Has anyone considered creating an ESP- or Time Stereo- or Warren Defever-
or all three mailing & discussion list? I think it would be a good idea...
What do *you* think?
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:09:19 +0000
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:31:46 +0000
I'm taking some time off work to go to as many of the
dates as I can.
The downside of this means that I'll have to temporarily unsubscribe
from the list at the end of today to prevent my PC here at work
becoming clogged up with list messages!
Of course the upside is that I'll be resubscribing on
Monday 11th, when I'll post my review of the first four dates,
(Buckley, Liverpool, Leeds and Sheffield). I'll try to make it an
I'll be hitch-hiking, so wish me luck!
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:05:52 -0500
unfortunately for most, it is already in the mail to some chap in
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:13:26 -0500
keeping discussion of ESP/HNIA/WD within the confines of a strictly
4AD-related list might be confining or inappropriate, but seeing that
this list happily accepts discussion of all 4AD related music and
art---including distant relations---i think its just fine to keep the
as my own tastes tend more toward the HNIA/DCD/TMC/CT's than toward the
lush/pixies/redhousepainters/ end of 4AD, the frequent ESP and Warren
related posting keeps me active in this group. take them away, and
perhaps we'll lose more members than myself...
one final note: why doesnt HNIA have a wwweb page?
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:09:01 -0500
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:52:57 -0500
On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, monica wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone on here likes harold budd....I have a few of his
> things, like Moon and the Melodies and Glyph (with Hector Zazou). But I am
> interested in possibly picking up some of his other stuff. I am looking
> for any info or comments that you may have, before I rush off and buy
If you like Harold Budd then you might want to pick up some Gavin
Bryars cds. The newest cd, which is all devoted to the sinking of the
Titanic is so eerie as he takes the depths of the water into
consideration as the band plays on....it made me get a tad teary. It's
absolutely exquisite, honest.
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:14:19 +0200
I have a few items for sale...
I am selling them to the highest bidder, because I am desperately trying
to raise money to pay off my debts to the Department Of Motor Vehicles
before they suspend my drivers liscence. =(
please respond to me privately, NOT to this list!
wolfgang Press - Christianity 4 track EP - promo only
penelope houston - cut you (promo)
a produce - white sands
death in june - something is coming 2xcd
fire and ice - midwinter fires cd
fire and ice - hollow ways cd
pelican daughters - fishbones and wishbones
lisa germano - cry wolf EP (promo only/non album tracks)
tangerine dream - tangents boxed set
kendra smith - five ways of disappearing
(lim. ed. promo with art cards)
nusrat fateh ali khan/michael brook - night song cd
various artists - guernica sampler
(promo only, 9 tracks, [small price tag mark])
nurse with wound - sylvie and babs cd
nurse with wound - soliloquy for lilith 2xcd
nurse with wound - a sucked orange
nurse with wound - chance meeting... cd
various artists - ohren des kaiser hirohito 2xcd
(LPDs, HNAS, NWW, Illusion of Safety, much more...)
various artists - ohrenschrauben/ohrensausen 2xcd
(NWW, Current 93, HNAS, Whitehouse, much more...)
various artists - excursions in ambience 1
(aphex twin, fsol, seefeel, more...)
various artists - excursions in ambience 3
(fsol, pwog, banco de gaia, more...)
current 93 - in menstrual night LP (nm/nm)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:06:57 -0500
Did anyone catch the Detroit Electric CD release party/show
at Alvins on Feb. 29?
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:40:14 -0500
>Time Stereo Catalog
>(Warren DeFever related tapes)
>28143 W. Eight Mile Rd.
> ESP-Summer (w/Ian Masters)
> ESP-Beetles "With The" (Warren: Vocal, Gutiar)
> ESP-Beetles "Live ESP" (Warren: Vocal, Guitar)
> ESP-Family (communist folk songs; Warren: Vocal, Guitar)
> New Grape (Noise & Pop; Warren: Remix)
> His Name Is Alive "Live in Mexico"
>All tapes are side A only (45 min)
>except ESP-Beetles "With The" is both sides (60 min)
>Tapes are $4.50 ppd. in U.S.
>Princess Dragon-Mom material is available elsewhere:
> "The Real Folk Blues" CS on G.R.O.S.S.
> "Honey Moon" CS (comes in a waterbottle) on Square D.
> "Library Girl" EP on Alley-Sweeper
> "Theme For Food" compilation track on Isomorphic
>September 11 1995
I hope no one else posted this yet, If so, sorry.
Also, forgot the Princess Dragon-Mom track:
"Channel Balance" on the Indiscreet Stereo Test CD compilation
You can most likely live without it unless you're testing your SABP Hi-Fi
or you're a HNIA compleatist (and who isn't?)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:39:41 -0800
> art---including distant relations---i think its just fine to keep the
> discussion here.
The problem is - I don't like sifting through 40 Lush posts each day.
I'm planning to unsubscribe soon, but I figured if we could arrange
a separate list for that specific area(s), I'd still be able to get the
info I need. I'm sure there are other folks out there who'd be
interested, possibly folks who aren't on this list (I know there are a
few...). Besides, I don't really consider Time Stereo noise stuff
and Warren-related projects such as that Trance thing to be any more on
subject here than, say, Portishead and Projekt rekords.
> as my own tastes tend more toward the HNIA/DCD/TMC/CT's than toward the
> lush/pixies/redhousepainters/ end of 4AD, the frequent ESP and Warren
> related posting keeps me active in this group. take them away, and
> perhaps we'll lose more members than myself...
Well, the more subjects this list covers, the less specialized it
becomes. I'd rather subscribe to a list that gives me ~5 messages a week
of useful information than one that gives me 50 a day regarding anything
and everything... At any rate, crossposting is still possible.
Sorry if I sound bitchy; I'm not really.
Keep 'em coming...
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:10:08 -0500
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:23:56 -0500
Right. Here's installment 3.
The first number is the total number of votes received; the second number is
the total number of people who voted for that particular, uh, thing.
BEST 4AD-RELATED TOUR OF 1995
1. 101-Throwing Muses (11)
2. 85-Lisa Gerrard (10)
3. 40-The Wolfgang Press (4)
4. 19-Red House Painters (3)
5. 13-Belly (3)
6. 10-Air Miami (1)
10-Kendra Smith (1)
10-Solid State (Kelly Deal) (1)
10.1-The Amps (1)
MOST ANTICIPATED 1996 4AD RELEASE
1. 130-His Name is Alive-Stars on ESP (22)
2. 77-Lush-Lovelife (13)
3. 61-Dead Can Dance-TBA (14)
4. 42-Brendan Perry-TBA (maybe...) (7)
5. 32-Throwing Muses-Limbo (6)
6. 20-Lisa Germano-Excerpts from the Love Circus (4)
7. 16-Heidi Berry-TBA (3)
8. 14-Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (US) (3)
9. 6-This Rimy River Ltd. Ed. (2)
10. 5-Scheer-Infliction (2)
11. 2-Kristin Hersh-TBA (1)
BEST ALBUM ON 4AD EVER
1. 46-Cocteau Twins-Treasure (10)
2. 42-This Mortal Coil-Filigree and Shadow (10)
3. 25-Throwing Muses-Eponymous (6)
4. 22-This Mortal Coil-Blood (6)
5. 21-Pixies-Surfer Rosa (4)
6. 15-Various Artists-Lonely is an Eyesore (3)
7. 14-Dif Juz-Extractions (2)
8. 12-His Name is Alive-Livonia (4)
12-Pale Saints-In Ribbons (3)
10. 11-Cocteau Twins-Heaven or Las Vegas (2)
11. 10-Red House Painters-Down Colorful Hill (4)
10-Cocteau Twins-Head Over Heels (2)
10-Red House Painters-Ocean Beach (1)
MOST MISSED FORMER 4AD ARTIST
1. 87-Cocteau Twins (12)
2. 48-Red House Painters (6)
3. 39-This Mortal Coil (7)
4. 35-Ian Masters (4)
5. 33-Pixies (7)
6. 30-Dif Juz (5)
7. 29-Swallow (5)
8. 13-Throwing Muses (original lineup) (2)
9. 11-The Birthday Party (3)
11-(Clan of) Xymox (3)
11. 9-The Wolfgang Press (2)
12. 8-Ultra Vivid Scene (2)
13. 6-Bauhaus (2)
6-Pale Saints (3)
There are still a few topics remaining-worst 4AD graphic design, most boring
4AD-L post, and the non-4AD topics (which I've had a LOT of trouble
with)...I'll try to get them finished up and out tomorrow. Thanks everyone
for your patience.
If you missed parts 1 or 2, e-mail me at CreigJ@aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:42:34 -0500
At the end of 1981, 4AD released the Japanese vinyl compilation "Natures
Mortes", which featured two men wrestling on the cover.
All of the vinyl releases that I have from 1982 feature the wrestling
ladies...The Birthday Party's "Drunk on the Pope's Blood", In Camera's "Fin",
Cocteau Twins' "Lullabies" plus the aforementioned Modern English 12"...
From what I've collected so far, the center labels changed each year from
1981 through 1983, after which color labels started to be used.
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:22:06 -0700
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:37:20 -0500
It's true that the best 4AD-related tour of 95 was Throwing Muses, and the
most anticipated 4AD release of 1996 is the new His Name Is Alive, but allow
me to provide the actual correct answers to the following categories:
BEST ALBUM ON 4AD EVER
23-This Mortal Coil-Blood (23)
MOST MISSED FORMER 4AD ARTIST
23-Pale Saints (original line-up) (23)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:26:29 -0800
I must say, I picked up the new lush today and it is really the worst
they've ever done. The ballads like "Olimpia" and "Papasan" just don't
work. Remember how everyone was saying how bad Single Girl was, well
it's one of the best songs on the album.
There are, however, some OK songs "Ladykillers" and "Lastnight" but
other than that.....
The lyrics on this one just aren't there. They buchered "Childcatcher"
and Lovelife really is remenisint of Elastica. I did notice that on
emma's songs, that there are some effects, at least we can rely on
Emma! I think it was Miki's idea to go punk and Emma is just playing
I would really like to see them go their own seprate ways if thats
what it takes to get the spacey effects back. If Emma goes her own way
we'll get Spacey, Miki and Chris' band will probably be punk. I know
I've said that before but its a really viable prediction IMO.
Lovelife is Bad
Lush will break up
Miki and Chris = Punk band
Emma = Spooky type band
Phil = Will get a termanal illness and spend the rest of his days with
the mother of the british kindom, Queen Elizibeth