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Subject: Still selling CDs...
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:26:31 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction ('Lilliput','Mai Pen Rai', + more!)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:55:29 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: TWP:BWC
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:43:57 -0600
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: Re: harold budd
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:24:17 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Sudess; KoD
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:28:33 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Re: throwing muses release date
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:04:42 -0700
From: Scott Hamilton (ska4me@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: shameless promotion (projekt list) (fwd)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:00:43 EST
From: Christina Johnson (cjohnson@CHAT.CARLETON.CA)
Subject: another auction update
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:30:31 -0500
From: Guernica@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA release date
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:40:59 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: the power of graphic designers/Michael Brook
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:23:16 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Success: The Kitchens
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:32:24 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: another auction update
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:50:57 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Jereth Senese
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:03:13 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Mazzy Star
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:48:42 +0000
From: mbdtssv (mbdtssv@AFS.MCC.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Success: Lush/Elastica?
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:01:37 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Success: Lush/Elastica?
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:02:58 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:17:56 -0500
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Caroline Lavelle
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:07:29 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction ('Lilliput','Mai Pen Rai', + more!)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:15:14 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Avoid Indochine / 300-500
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:47:56 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: latest 4AD release schedule
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:01:26 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: confirmed "4ad tour" dates
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:12:00 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: another auction update
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:55:51 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: lush.../lowlife...
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:43:43 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:56:38 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM

Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:26:31 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Still selling CDs...


A lot of it is left over from last time (well, the spiritualized is
gone).  A few new things, though... including a bunch of Grant Lee
Buffalo promos, if you're into that sort of thing.

Belly - Slow Dust E.P. - $10
Belly - Star (advance promo) - $7
Belly - Feed the Tree - $8
Belly - Feed the Tree (U.S. issue; new, spine scratched) - $5
The Clean - Vehicle - $8
Grant Lee Buffalo - Blue Plate Special (promo) - $10
Grant Lee Buffalo - Fuzzy - $8
Grant Lee Buffalo - Mighty Joe Moon (advance promo) - $9
Grant Lee Buffalo - Honey Don't Think plus live tracks (promo) - $10
Grant Lee Buffalo - El Dorado Motorhome (promo video, ~15 min.) - $20
Heisei Tanuki Gassen Ponpoko - Drama CD - $25
Morrissey - Interesting Drug - $12
Morrissey - Pregnant for the Last Time - $12
Omohide Hatoba - Black Hawaii - $15
Pale Saints - Slow Bulidings (stamped promo) - $8
Ruins - Graviyaunosch - $9
Secret Shine - Untouched (basically new) - $10
Slowdive - Morningrise EP - $25
Teenbeat 1996 Sampler - $2.50 with anything else
This Mortal Coil - 5 Selected Originals (promo) - $15

Priority goes to larger orders.  Shipping is included in the prices.
I'd rather negotiate than let these things go unsold; if you have any
questions, feel free to talk.  n9344881@cc.wwu.edu

Mike

Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:55:29 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction ('Lilliput','Mai Pen Rai', + more!)


>APPLES IN STEREO:  "Fun Trick Noisemaker"  CD  (Spinart/US)
>ECSTASY OF ST. THERESA:  "...fluidtrance centauri..."  CDEP  (Free/UK)
>HIS NAME IS ALIVE:  "Livonia"  CD  (4AD/UK)
>HIS NAME IS ALIVE:  "Mouth By Mouth"  CD  (4AD/US)
>PALE SAINTS:  "Mrs. Dolphin"  CD  (4AD/JAPAN)

i'll bid $6 on each of these.  maybe if i buy one, i'll even send that tape
i owe you (sorry about the delay.  i expect to get to it over spring break).
do you listen to much (loathe to use the word) techno?

later,

eric


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:43:57 -0600
From: Darryl Stephen Roy (dsroy@OWLNET.RICE.EDU)
Subject: TWP:BWC


Speaking of Bird Wood Cage, which I'll take along once I find a cozy
desert isle, has anybody had any luck finding other albums with the
menacing, dubby, sexy feel of this album?  Parts of The The's Mind Bomb
and some G.Lewis-sung Wire come close, but I'd be most grateful if
somebody pointed my nose in likely directions.

Oh, by the way, for those of you who've yet to fall in love with your own
copy, Bird Wood Cage is the one where, having dropped their Public Image
and Talking Heads fixations like worn trousers, Micheal Allen & co. strip
down Stax soul and dreadsome dub to the bare flesh and swing their hips
about.  They are among the very few white boys to understand funk.

Chumming with Al-Pook the destroyer...

D. Stephen Roy  //\\  Die in your thoughts every morning and
dsroy@rice.edu  \\//  you will no longer fear death - Hakakure


Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:24:17 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: harold budd


You wrote:
>
>I was wondering if anyone on here likes harold budd....I have a few of
his
>things, like Moon and the Melodies and Glyph (with Hector Zazou).  But
I am
>interested in possibly picking up some of his other stuff.  I am
looking
>for any info or comments that you may have, before I rush off and buy
>something....thanks!
>
>monica
>
My favorite is WHite Arcades, has the incredible intense yet hyponotic
stance.  For what it is worth, I haven't picked up a single Budd CD or
collaborative that I didn't enjoy.  KInda like that Laswellian
connection, anything so far they tough is good
euthelen


Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:28:33 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Re: Sudess; KoD

              Ingebrigtsen" at Mar 3, 96 11:04:51 pm

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen said:
>
> Joseph Burns  writes:
>
> > Can you please tell me where and how you heard that KoD broke up?
>
> I heard it from someone who said they read it in the NME.  So it's
> pure hearsay.
>
> Does anybody have the facts?

According to the latest Big Takeover, Patrick is pursuing solo work but
the band is somewhat in limbo after being dropped by A&M.  It's possible
that they did in fact split up since by the time the BT gets published,
news is already a couple of months old.

Ed
--
Edward Wakabayashi                    /\   You've kissed everybody else's
                                      \/   so you can kiss my ass as well
zorg@alois.icon.palo-alto.med.va.gov  /\      -*Her Majesty the Baby*-
zorg@interramp.com                    \/

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 02:04:42 -0700
From: Scott Hamilton (ska4me@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: throwing muses release date


On Sun, 3 Mar 1996 at 09:57:16, Dewdrops Records  wrote:

>May 14  Lisa Germano            'Excerpts From A Love Circus'
>        His Name Is Alive       'Stars On ESP'
>        Throwing Muses          'Limbo'
>

i only wish.  i've got it from pretty darned reliable sources that throwing
muses' release has been pushed back until august.  it'll be a long summer.

did appreciate the rest of the info, however.

scott

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:00:43 EST
From: Christina Johnson (cjohnson@CHAT.CARLETON.CA)
Subject: shameless promotion (projekt list) (fwd)


Finally, a Projekt mailing list!  Has anyone tried signing up yet?  I
shall have to try myself...

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:39:00 -0600 (CST)
> From: RFGRUBB@alex.stkate.edu
> To: WSD-L@hmc.edu
> Subject: shameless promotion (projekt list)
>
> If anyone is interested in joining a projekt list, email
> nightshy@benland.muc.edu for more information.
>


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Christina Johnson           e-mail: cjohnson@chat.carleton.ca

      Fee-fi-fo-fum -- Now I'm borrowed.  Now I'm numb.
                            [Anne Sexton, "The Addict"]
--------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:30:31 -0500
From: Guernica@AOL.COM
Subject: another auction update


so many recent new bids have prompted me to post another update.   high bids
(with first part of e-mail names so you know if you're the high bid and at
the same time not divulging your entire e-address to unwanted solicitors):

Red House Painters - "Shock Me" e.p.
    $12-RJH823
Various - "All Virgo's Are Mad" Still Sealed (2 available)
    --no bids-- (min bin $14 please)
Insides - "Clearskin" 1 sealed, 1 mint (i.e. brand new, without the shrink
wrap)
    $13-SKEPTIK1
Swallow - "Blow" still sealed
   $8-brettg
blacktapeforabluegirl - "this lush garden within" small case crack, otherwise
mint as well
   $9-bgmutz
TMC - "Come here my love" 10" - rare
    $65-SKEPTIK1
hisnameisalive - "In Every Ford" 4AD(US) 5-track promo...jewel case is
cracked
    $15-RJH823
Swallow - "Blowback" mint-
    $20-JHH8513
Various - "...think I'm Getting the hang of it"  mint+
    --no bids--  (i know this WAS a freebie in CA,  but someone on this list
must be still looking for this)
Various - "Mai Pen Rai" mint+
    $42-anthonym

Lonely Is An Eyesore  deluxe gatefold edition (12")this thing is absolutely
beautiful and mint

    --still no bids-- !!!!!!!  (this too is for sale at Play It Again in
Royal Oak, MI --- only for $95... min asking is $80)


please remember to include postage in your offers... thanks!

-guernica@aol.com

>>>p.s. for the conveinience of those who read their e-mail once a week, i'll
run this >>>auction thingie until the end of the month.

ok, so i lied.  well since I've fallen behind, I've decided to give it an
extra 2 weeks

nothing like raising a little $ for that "rimy river" ltd. ed that's on it's
way...  woo hoo!!!


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:40:59 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA release date


spoke to warren at the recent 'green room' show, and he was more than
skeptical about the may release date for 'stars on ESP'.

which, basically, sucks.

dan

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:23:16 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: the power of graphic designers/Michael Brook


Max,

Found the DCD 'Ubiquitous' 2-tr. and Liquorice 'Cheap Cuts' 5-tr. pro-cds.
So please delete from my wantlist. And if everything is right, the Lush
'When I Die' 3-tr. and 'Last Night' 6-tr. pro-cd's should be on the way to
Heiloo too, so the only 4AD USA promo CD I'm now still looking for is that
mysterious Lisa Germano 'Energy' 1-tr. pro-cd.


>*see the 4AD Shaving The Pavement ad in Option magazine Mar/Apr 96, page 109.

Does the ad look any good? If so, I'll pick up the Option issue.

Read you,
Frank
+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:32:24 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Success: The Kitchens


Kitchens of Distinction! i thought the reason they broke up was because i
was their only fan...

i think you're absolutely right about 'art' noise vs. 'commercial' noise.
when a group decides to make pop music, they seem to have to be willing
to  be 'popular'---which usually means tailoring the music to the tastes
of that audience.  as opposed to doing exactly what you want and not
giving a shit about sales or success.   witness the difference between
the kitchens' "love is hell" album and thier latest release 'cowboys and
aliens'...  the key for art-pop seems to be an ability to walk the line.
people were drawn to love is hell because it was strange, empassioned
swirly guitar rock with fascinating lyrics and catchy tunes. wasant even
available here in the usa for ages (one little indidan was their label).
then a major label release and a hit single (quick as rainbows).  then a
taste of success, and an album even poppier (death of cool).  finally,
they hire pascal gabriel to produce thier mainstream breakthru single
'now its time to say goodbye', and nobody's listening anymore...  they
anticipated ride, slowdive, curve, my bloody valentine. had a dedicated
following. did something special. then tried to do make big money and
started to suck...

lush may be doing the same thing. same progression. unsatisfied with
marginal success and dedicated art-rock following, they become car
salespersons and start impersonating elastica.

...final analysis?  art assults its audience. bends ears and eyes to its
point of view.  pop placates its audience. complicity with the audience's
point of view....  the middle is difficult

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:50:57 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: another auction update


i'll sell my mai pen rai cd for 20 bucks, post paid.
dan

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:03:13 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Jereth Senese


sorry for posting this to the list, but i seem to have misplaced your
email address,

although not your snail-mail address. to which i will be sending payment
for that cocteaux promo as soon as i get out of work today (3:30)

thanks alot, and watch your mail!!

dan


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:48:42 +0000
From: mbdtssv (mbdtssv@AFS.MCC.AC.UK)
Subject: Mazzy Star


Are there any Mazzy Star fans out there? If so, can anyone tell me when/if
they are releasing any new material?
On a 4AD note: I heard that Ivo kicked the Red House Painters off the label
because he didn't like Mark Kozolek's guitar solos. What a bloody fool! (Ivo
not Mark). Anyway, hope they find a new deal soon, they're far too good to be
thrown on the scrap heap.

ttfn,

Simon

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:01:37 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Success: Lush/Elastica?


On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:32:24 -0500 daniel klyn 
>lush may be doing the same thing. same progression. unsatisfied with
>marginal success and dedicated art-rock following, they become car
>salespersons and start impersonating elastica.

"Lovelife" pisses on anything Elastica have ever done
from a VERY great height!

Chris ]}:>

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:02:58 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Success: Lush/Elastica?


On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Chris Limb wrote:
>
> "Lovelife" pisses on anything Elastica have ever done
> from a VERY great height!
>

ooh, that all 4AD grrrlrock bands pissed from such lofty heights!!

but as i loathe elastica, and dislike most lush, your eloquent apology
for lush is quite lost on me!

sorry
dan

p.s. do you have video of lush performing said act?


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:17:56 -0500
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.


> I called the hotline last week and... zip! I haven=B4t recieved nothing!
> When did you call?
>=20
What is the hotline #?

Alex
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:07:29 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Caroline Lavelle


On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Robert A. Szkolnicki wrote:

> The "Spirit" album won't light any fires. It is a pleasant album. She is not
> a strong singer. She just breaths and speaks through most of it. Reminds me a
> bit of Tanita Tikarum, but not as husky. What I like about it is the work of
> William Orbit. If you are familiar with the Strange Cargo stuff, you will
> easily recognize his input.  The techno-noodling is the beat that keeps this
> moving. I like this album the more I listen to it.

        I'll second that "won't light any fires."  I bought the album, then
sold it back.  I was very impressed with her work with Massive Attack
("Home of the Whale") and at Peter Gabriel's Real World (the traditional
"She Moved Through The Fair"), but the album _Spirit_ didn't do much for me
- and I do like William Orbit for _Strange Cargo III_ and remixes of
Peter Gabriel, Prince and Kraftwerk.
        Just an opinion,
        David.


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 13:15:14 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: B. Capps Auction ('Lilliput','Mai Pen Rai', + more!)


In Message Mon, 4 Mar 1996 03:02:42 -0600,
  joroses@mail.utexas.edu (go to the window) writes:

>>do you listen to much (loathe to use the word) techno?
>
>then use the words 'electronic music.' works for me! :)
>..j.

oh shit!  did ireply to the list?  sorry everyone!

BiZ


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:47:56 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: Avoid Indochine / 300-500


>Indochine- Radio Indochine ($12 Import). Live recording form some of
>Indochine=B4s best songs. They are, along with Ettienne Daho, the best=
> things
>to come out form France. I highly reccomend this disc or, if you want to
>start with something more general, try 'The Birthday Album', their greatest
>hits form 81-91.=20

What? Should not be the right place for Indochine here!
Nothing thislisty or interesting IMHO...
I used to like them when I was 12, but now!

Speaking of well known french bands, you should try
_Les Rita Mitsouko_, _Trisomie 21_, _The Little Rabbits_, _Dominique A_,
_Katerine_, and Jean-Louis Murat or Etienne Daho, yes,
... but definitly not Indochine.

Oh, definitly I do NOT want to start a flame; Pepe, email me privately if
you want to talk about french bands (altough I'm not a specialist).

Take care, 4AD fellows...

_______________
>the CD is the typical 4AD/reprise orange-colored CD with the familiar 300 500
>logo with the circle around it (what does this mean anyway???).

>BTW, the 300/500 thing has been discussed several times before on here.  It
>simply refers to the rpms of the CD.  It goes 300 at the start (inside the CD)
>and 500 by the time the playback head reaches the outside.  (or do I have that
>backwards?)

Should be backwards: on the CD, the LINEAR speed is constant...
So it's about 500 rpm in the beginning, and about 300 when it reaches the
outside.

2 lines on the FAQ should be nice, since this part of v23 artwork can
be found on many CDs... Sure Jens would add it if anyone write 2 lines
about that.

                       ___
Laurent Lapierre      |-,-|
lapierre@micronet.fr  | - |


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 17:01:26 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: latest 4AD release schedule


>
> I just had a full listen to scheer's "schism" EP (found it for
> $3 and figured it's worth it just to hear how BAD bad can be) and I must
> say, imho, that this is by far the worst thing I have ever heard
> from 4AD.

Unfortunately, a large portion of the british music press disagrees with
you.. but we are all entitled to our opinions.

Check out Shea... it's much better than Schism... shows that this band
deserves the praise it has been receiving.


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:12:00 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: confirmed "4ad tour" dates


hey everyone-
        i received some confirmed dates and venues for the "shaving the
pavement" tour.  they are as follows:
        friday, april 26th-- washington dc @ the new 9:30 club
        sunday, may 5th-- detroit, mi @ st. andrews hall (431 e. congress)
        monday, may 6th-- cleveland, oh @ the odean (sp?)
well, i hope that these help people in these areas.  i know the dates are
right, the days of the week may be off though.........enjoy yourselves.
                                lesley


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:55:51 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: another auction update


In a message dated 96-03-04 07:56:23 EST, you write:

>i'll sell my mai pen rai cd for 20 bucks, post paid.
>dan
>
>

yeah, but what kind of condition is it it???
-blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:43:43 -0400
From: K- (ash@DHP.COM)
Subject: lush.../lowlife...


lush...
OH... MY... GOD! just got the lush album today (i'd heard it already,
and posted a review of it a while back.) i was worried that the cover
was going to look like the promo (band photo). in retrospect, i would
have kissed a ton of ass to see that happen. that new cover is
atrocious! what on earth is up with this motif, between the two recent
singles and the lp? eeek. oh well, at least the lp is excellent. and
for you who pick it up and don't like it... you probably will. i liked
it from the start, but like it even more now, after having listened to
it a ton.

lowlife...
anyone remember this band? you know, the band will heggie started
after cocteau twins?
it's still in it's embryonic stage, but for those who are interested i
just put up the official site for the band. if you know who they are
and like them, or if you don't know who they are and want to, stop by!
the URL is http://www.dhp.com/~ash

bye all,
        K-

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 22:56:38 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.


In a message dated 96-03-04 13:05:38 EST, you write:

>> I called the hotline last week and... zip! I havenīt recieved nothing!
>> When did you call?
>>
>What is the hotline #?
>
>Alex
>
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jezz..... Jens was right....  doesn't anyone read the bloody FAQ anymore????

-blubelknol@aol.com

(the # is in the FAQ right??  last time I read it, it was.  as was the 4AD
-UK mail order address)  anyway, here it is:310.535.1714


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