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Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:26:49 -0600
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:08:45 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 01:13:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: bootlegs
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:12:48 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fer Sale
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:11:19 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: More IWave
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:53:32 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Caroline Lavelle
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:36:40 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Cult of Ray Mobile to trade
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:30:01 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Dead Can Dance: live in Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 18:35:11 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: seeking for good bands.
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:35:04 -0500
From: Cesar Moscoso (a9428245@PUCP.EDU.PE)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 02:14:17 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: strange situation
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:54:59 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance: live in Amsterdam
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:49:39 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Caroline Lavelle
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:49:37 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Nico (almost 4AD)
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:44:02 CET
From: "Gaveston, Gaveston, I'm hooked on you" (ADAMRADV@PLEARN.EDU.PL)
Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:39:00 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:45:11 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: strange situation
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:36:28 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: strange situation
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:04:32 -0500
From: Deanna Phillips (dp@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: ENO UNCLE
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:19:40 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: (idm) What's up with this?
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:11:55 -0500
From: Phil Downey (3pjd3@QLINK.QUEENSU.CA)
Subject: New... stuff
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:31:52 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: Re: From A to Z
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:01:31 -0500
From: Rastko Kovacevic (rkovacev@ABACUS.BATES.EDU)
Subject: Re: New... stuff
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:40:04 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: What if Lush.....
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:56:31 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Nico (almost 4AD)
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:42:18 -0800
From: Vada Pinson (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: FOR SALE: XMal, Germano, Underground Lovers, Wolfhounds, etc.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:32:44 -0500
From: IVSONGS@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:21:53 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: HNIA videos
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:32:09 -0500
From: Where is my Mind? (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Re: French mag w/avam cd / ESP-Continent
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:05:27 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Yet another Lush opinion
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:20:34 -0500
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: strange situation
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:56:42 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: XMal, Germano, Underground Lovers, Wolfhounds, etc.
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:57:37 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Faith & Disease, ivy records
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:31:52 -0500
From: IvyRecords@AOL.COM

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:26:49 -0600
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"


So the limited edition has been reissued in France.  Doesn't that destroy the
whole "limited editioness" of the CD?  I mean, it's would be like suddenly
reissuing the LIAE deluxe limited edition...doesn't that bother anyone?

Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:08:45 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?


On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, John, Jacci, and Madison wrote
> A friend of mine e-mailed me wondering about a band he just heard of called
> the Martinis.  Evidently David Lovering and Joey Santiago from the Pixies
> are in the band.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?  Does anyone have any info on them? Like, do they
> have any albums out?  Have they done any touring?  Please any info would be
> helpful.

Yes this is true. They have been touring supporting They Might Be Giants.
Don't know about any releases.

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 01:13:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"


In Message Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:26:49 -0600,
  Young Grasshopper  writes:

>So the limited edition has been reissued in France.  Doesn't that destroy the
>whole "limited editioness" of the CD?  I mean, it's would be like suddenly
>reissuing the LIAE deluxe limited edition...doesn't that bother anyone?

i think the fact that the cd was "limited to 10,000," in the first place
destroyed the whole limitedness of the cd, so no, it doesn't bother me.  you
can still get them around here for like $13 if you want them (though some
people on this list try -- usually unsuccessfully -- to sell them for more.)
anyone else find this lame?

anyone who would "limit" a cd to 10,000 is just plain silly.  that's why
whenever i see a "limited numbered edition" piece, and the number's like
17,000 something, i just laugh.  anything over about 4,000 or so isn't
really that limited (at least in the 4ad-listening world).

just my thoughts,

BiZ

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:12:48 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: bootlegs


What do you have by Pale Saints or Stereolab?

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:11:19 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Fer Sale


anybody interested in the new 4AD sampler called "Facing the Wrong
Direction"? Its got some predictable things and some alternate versions
of all our faves.
post me privately
jb


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:53:32 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: More IWave


Ok, stop your groaning. :)
  My server FINALLY supporst IWave, so if you have the viewer, you just have
to click on the link, and viola, you hear the music.  I have some 4AD stuff
as well as others.  If you wish to listen to some of this music, stop by my
      http://www.tezcat.com/~neitzl
 And follow the IWave Link.
 Some songs:
  Respect, The Wolfgang Press....for those of you who said this song was not
to be taken seriously, i say, not so...great song...even if it is amusing!
Love Liz' backup job here.
  Christianity, TWP....no not some ultra rare remix, just the regular album one.

  Circling Girl, Cocteau Twins.....Need i say more?
  Be Still, Cocteau Twins.....Really just Robin and Liz, on a benefit album.

  Vogue, KMFDM....the masters of Industrial.

  We have all the time in the world, MBV....good song.

  White Lines, Duran Duran....So kill me, but i love this song.

  and some others.

  Thank you for your time.
Ernesto

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:36:40 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Caroline Lavelle


Hey all,

I recently stumbled upon a review of Caroline Lavelle's debut "Spirit" (in the
LA Weekly if you must know) and happened to hear a track from that album the
next day. I must say, this might be of interest. I thought it was a lovely
piece of work. For those of you who don't know who Caroline is, she's a famed
Cellist who's played (the cello of course) for a wide variety of cool artists
(even though those names escape me right now).
So anyway, after an entire paragraph of rambling, let me get to the point of
my post, anyone heard this album? Any reviews? Comments?

-nb- Black is the mirror of my soul

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:30:01 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: Cult of Ray Mobile to trade


I have the Frank Black-Cult of Ray mobile that I would like to trade for
the Lilliput CDs, any takers, no?, OK, how about a CT, DCD, TMC or HNIA
poster, preferably older, but whatever.  It's still sealed, some assembly
required.  It's little stars with the ray face on them hanging from a big
ray star.  Kinda cool, if you're into FB.  Still no? OK, make me an offer.

Listening to Velocity Girl's, Gilded Stars, pretty good so far.

Later,



James 

... it is better to build upon the shifting sands
than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 18:35:11 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Dead Can Dance: live in Amsterdam


Good News!

Lisa, Brendan and a few friends, also known as Dead Can Dance, are
performing live in Carre, Amsterdam on June 27 (thursday) and 28 (friday).
The support act for both concerts: Ygdrasil.

Tickets sale starts on suturday March 9...

In 1993, Dead Can Dance started their world tour in Amsterdam, I don't know
if these two are their first concerts this year.


Who are 'Ygdrasil'?


Emiel Efdee
...
the Netherlands, March 1, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:35:04 -0500
From: Cesar Moscoso (a9428245@PUCP.EDU.PE)
Subject: seeking for good bands.


Hi out there , I am really interested in getting contacts or clues about
"INTERESTING BANDS " but  specially about those ones with lyrics in spanish
so if you have some news please let me know .
I also would like to share with you some names :
 SILVANIA (Valencia,SPAIN)
 SILVERBLOOD (Sao Paulo ,BRAZIL)
 MELLONTA TAUTA (Mar del plata, ARGENTINA)
 DOLORES DELIRIO (Lima ,PERU)

On the other hand i would like to know more information about the AVAM
video,and other stunning video compilations, if the L.A branch can deliver
this stuff or if someone would tell me how to get ,at least a copy of them.
I think that's all for today.
bye
    CESAR .


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 02:14:17 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.


>
>I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, just wondering if there
was
>anyone else on the list who got in on the deal.


Well no but I heard the lovelife remix and was wondering if Emma was
singing. I can't tell....

Anyway I look foward to the album!

                                    Brian


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:54:59 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: strange situation


hello there listies:

i am in this weird situation and i want to know what is up, because i am new
to this whole internet thing.  anyway, i was supposed to trade some cds over
the mail with, what i thought, was a nice person.  anyway, that person said
for us both to send on a wednesday so we can recieve our stuff by friday,
right.  well, as you may already know, i am a bit shakey about sending stuff
through the mail [refer to ear/rational reliability] so i agreed to it.  the
only thing was that i did not send on wednesday, i waited for the goods to
get here first... then i sent on monday.  well, it is now friday and this
person is claiming that they never got their stuff.  and get this.... this
person is threatining me by saying the following:

>I have a feeling you already know this, but I'll say it anyway:
>
>I *still* have not received the cd you *say* you mailed. We agreed to
>mail via 2 day priority last wednesday. you lied to me, then said you
>mailed it monday. It is friday and i still have not received it. I am
>NOT waiting for your next excuse...
>
>If that record is not in my Monday morning mail, I will post to the
>400+ subscribers on the 4AD list, as well as on alt.music.4AD *and*
>alt.music.alternative that you are a bad trader and a liar.  I will
>also show the mail to your sysadmin, which is concrete proof that
>you have perpetrated fraud. Then I will call the postmaster,
>and tell him the whole story -- you do know that mail fraud is a felony?
>
>You'd better be on your way to Fed Ex or UPS or anyplace that has
>overnight mailing ...
________________________________________________________________________________
I want to know, what can i do??  I mean, I am a CD short from my collection
and this person comes up with this B.S. about the CD.  I know it was pretty
inadequate of me to not send at the same time but, regardless, I DID send....
Please give me some advice concerning this matter.  I do not want to get a
bad rep or even getting ripped off by mean people on the 'net.

thanks,
-e.

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:49:39 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance: live in Amsterdam


>Lisa, Brendan and a few friends, also known as Dead Can Dance, are
>performing live in Carre, Amsterdam on June 27 (thursday) and 28 (friday).
>The support act for both concerts: Ygdrasil.
>
>Tickets sale starts on suturday March 9...

So, je bent weer goed op de hoogte (you're so well informed).

>Who are 'Ygdrasil'?

Een Nederlandse band met feminine etherische zang.

Cheers,

Huite


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:49:37 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Caroline Lavelle


>Anyone heard of this Cellist who just released her first CD called "spirit" I
>read a great review (LA Weekly tsst tsst).

She's the one playing cello on Heidi Berry albums.
I didn't know of her solo-album, so thanks for that.

Cheers,


Huite

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:44:02 CET
From: "Gaveston, Gaveston, I'm hooked on you" (ADAMRADV@PLEARN.EDU.PL)
Subject: Nico (almost 4AD)


Hello again,

a friend has recently given me a tape by Nico titled 'the marble index'.
i can't stop listening to it, it's an ultimate beauty.
i can remember seeing Nico in Fellini's Dolce Vita and i went hunting in
cd stores at once but i found only her 'The last concert' CD.

perhaps someone here knows about a CD release of 'The Marble Index'? They
do't have any information about it in Poland, even in the shops where they
keep 'garlands' on vitrine display.

adam olszewski
adamradv@plearn.edu.pl


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:39:00 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: "All Virgo's Are Mad"


How about "The Grunge Years" "limited" edition of 500,000 copies off sub-pop.
That always won my award for transparent marketing ploy.


marvynHortman      Director FAQ --> ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:45:11 -0500
From: HORTMAN_M@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.


BTW, the 300/500 thing has been discussed several times before on here.  It
simply refers to the rpms of the CD.  It goes 300 at the start (inside the CD)
and 500 by the time the playback head reaches the outside.  (or do I have that
backwards?)


marvynHortman     Director FAQ -->  ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:36:28 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: strange situation


>i am in this weird situation and i want to know what is up, because i am new
>to this whole internet thing.  anyway, i was supposed to trade some cds over
>the mail with, what i thought, was a nice person.  anyway, that person said
>for us both to send on a wednesday so we can recieve our stuff by friday,
>right.  well, as you may already know, i am a bit shakey about sending stuff
>through the mail [refer to ear/rational reliability] so i agreed to it.  the
>only thing was that i did not send on wednesday, i waited for the goods to
>get here first... then i sent on monday.  well, it is now friday and this
>person is claiming that they never got their stuff.  and get this.... this
>person is threatining me by saying the following:

ok you're shaky about trading.  There's nothing 100% guaranteed on these
matters.  However, it sounds like you made a deal with this person and then
backed out of it, just to secure your end.  I would be pissed too if someone
agreed on terms and then reneged.   I suppose their is an unwritten code on
this list to abide by one's word in the buying, selling, trading bit, so
seeing this reply by this person is not too surprising.  Were you expecting
fluffy white clouds w/ :) :) :) ?

jason

srilank@aol.com

ps-while we're on the subject on "That's not fair!" (the 4AD dealing game)

Zack Martinchek at the address--        X95MARTINCHE@wmich.edu

will take your specially made dub that you sent by mail, and *not* return
one!  Even after 5 months! Sound like a good deal?  Well, get in touch with
Zack today!  He's a sly dog :)


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:04:32 -0500
From: Deanna Phillips (dp@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: Re: strange situation


Dear Jason,

Thanks for sticking up for me and my sad situation on the list. That
little brat -- i had thought he was polishing up his character when he
posted that ear/rational reliability stuff. The irony of it mounted each
day, but I said nothing.

What's funny is that my threats to him were completely hollow...I never
planned to actually defame him in public places. I just don't have it in
me to get into that kind of mess over a stupid cd. But I thought the
threat of it might get him to send it to me. Now it looks like he's doing
my work for me -- astute listies will know not to get mixed up in any
deals with him.

Well I've decided I can't stop the world because one of its residents
sucks, so I would still like to trade with you. There was a post about
the Xymox A Day/Stranger 12" the other day on this list, did you see it?
Someone was saying they had been looking for it for years. I've never
really liked it much myself, so I will be glad to trade it and the
Shelleyan Orphan for the Mirror Pool. Isn't that what we had agreed upon?
You do know that my copy of Century Flower is a promo copy? Just making
sure that is okay.

Let me know if you are still interested. If so I suggest we try the same
technique that failed so miserably with the erik situation. It's a good
technique -- i knew he was jerking me around 2 days after I mailed.


deanna

dp@iglou.com

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:19:40 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: ENO UNCLE


>>also, on an unrelated note, does anybody know what if any album eno
recorded the song 'third uncle' on?  or was it written 'for' bauhaus?<<

"THIRD UNCLE" from Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy). This is also
the album that A Certain Ratio lifted their name from (can't remember which
song).

"ST. ELMO'S FIRE" is a much better song though.


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:11:55 -0500
From: Phil Downey (3pjd3@QLINK.QUEENSU.CA)
Subject: Re: (idm) What's up with this?

          iffy dance music 

On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, einexile the meek wrote:

>
> Sorry about the massive crosspost but I've seen or heard nothing about
> this. maybe just cuz I delete all my mail. :) Has anyone heard it? have
> Seefeel broken up?? What the fuck is going on???
>
I don't think seefeel have broken up.  Just last week I talked to Mark
Clifford and he said that seefeel had taken a couple of months apart.
During this time he has done all his Disjecta work, with the full-length
album waiting for only the artwork to be done, and released soon.
He also mentioned that seefeel are now reassembling to start their next
album.

Phil Downey

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:31:52 +0100
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (larsi@IFI.UIO.NO)
Subject: New... stuff


Whee!  I've actually bought some interesting albums.

Tarnation - Gentle Creatures

Never before have so many people been so right.  1)  You've got these
nice country tunes sung by Paula.  2)  You have these vile "jokey"
country tunes from hell sung by some guy that should be shot.  Several
times.  And then strangled. The first time I listened to this album, I
kinda smiled at those... songs.  Now I just wish I had a remote for my
cd player.  Those songs are *bad*.  Badbadbad.  *Bad*!

Paulas songs are good, though.  I don't know whether they are great or
not, but her songs are, like, Country Songs That Don't Suck And Don't
Souns Like Badalamenti Either.  Which is definitely a plus.  Me like.
Does she have a solo album out soon?


Bel Canto - Magic Box

I saw "Rumour" on the tv some time back, and it sounded so...
Smooth.  Not like the Bel Canto we all know and love.  I now have the
album, and indeed -- it's a very *produced* album.  It's not boring,
though.  There are exciting, new, hep & cool sounds aplenty.

Now -- the songs.  Ahh!  Some of the songs are pure heaven.  It's
like... I want to jump out of my chair and explode in a burst of
millions of stars.  Or something.  Neat!

I think all the previous albums had a definite Belgian/Norwegian feel
to them.  This one definitely does not have that.  Buy it anyway.


Lush - Ladykiller 1 & 2

Now, I've listened to these two thingies several times, and I still
can't recall anything about them.  The title track is
Elastica-by-numbers, even though it's not as bad as Single Girl.  I
think.  The rest of the tracks (six-count-em-six) just sort are there.
I'm sure they're nice and everything.  I probably should just listen
to them some more.

"Plums and Oranges" seems like a nice track.  It's the only songs
written by Emma.  All the rest are by Miki, more or less.  A clue!
Miki bad Emma good?  Is that it?

Why have Lush released 14 tracks b-side tracks?


Coil - Black Light District

"Cool!" I thought.  "Coil have finally released a followup to Love's
Secret Domain."  My sweaty hands grabbed the album, and I slunk out of
the store (after paying).  Alas!  Alack!  How my hopes were crushed!
This is yet one more release in their groundbreaking "let's tap
a keyboard key once every few minutes in our sleep" series.  Not that
they're bad at tapping keyboard keys in their sleep, but it doesn't
exactly set the world on fire.  It's ok.


Autechre - Anvil Vapre

Crunch!  Crunch!  Crunch!  Tikka-tikka-tikka-tikka-crunch!

And that's just the first track!

Actually, I liked this EP just fine.  I don't think anything Autechre
have ever released is as good as their first album, though.


And that's it.  What did *you* buy yesterday, then?

--
  "Yes.  The journey through the human heart
     would have to wait until some other time."


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:01:31 -0500
From: Rastko Kovacevic (rkovacev@ABACUS.BATES.EDU)
Subject: Re: From A to Z

              Camil" at Mar 1, 96 09:28:42 pm

> Pixies - Doolitle ($13). My FIRST Pixies purchase and I LOVED IT! What=B4s
> next for me to get form them? Please give me your opinions!

get surfer rosa (or if you're in europe a combined cd of surfer rosa and
come on pilgrim), it's a great album--i do prefer doolittle, though

>
> Stone Roses - The Complete Stone Roses ($12 Import). Compilation that
> includes all the singles released minus (thank god!) the Second Coming
> releases. Great and nostalgic stuff. Why did they came up with such a crap
> as Second Coming?

second coming is not all *that* bad, is it? :)
rastko

--
"We are punished for our refusals. Every impulse that we strive to
strangle broods in the mind, and poisons us. The body sins once, and has
done with its sin, for action is a mode of purification. Nothing remains
then but the recollection of a pleasure, or the luxury of a regret. The
only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your
soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself,
with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful."
                                --Oscar Wilde, "The Picture of Dorian Gray"

Rastko | rkovacev@bates.edu | http://www.bates.edu/~rkovacev | 207.777.7913


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:40:04 +0600
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: New... stuff

              1996 20:31:52 +0100

Jens said:
>   Bel Canto - Magic Box
...
>   I think all the previous albums had a definite
>   Belgian/Norwegian feel to them.  This one definitely
>   does not have that.  Buy it anyway.

Agreed.  The others had that out-of-the-rarefied-cold-air sort of feel to them
(... even *shimmering warm and bright* had that
snuggle-up-to-the-fireplace-to-escape-the-cold sort of feel) but this one...
well buy it and figure it out for yourself.

...why haven't we heard anything from e, our official forwarder of dewy-fields
info?

>   And that's it.  What did *you* buy yesterday, then?

If you must know, i spent too much.  Bought:

*Murder Ballads* by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
old CD by VG Jog (violin) and Zakir Hussain (tabla)
*Night Song* by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and Michael Brook
*Dream* by U. Srinivas and Michael Brook

Hopefully i'll have time to review the pertinent ones for this list.

-cz

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:56:31 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: What if Lush.....


    Before I start I would just like to say that you liked Lush's
"Gala" then you should get Pale Saints "in ribbons", awesome CD! I just
got it at music trader. God bless them!

here's some questions to ponder.......

    What if Merial never left lush? (pretend her boyfriend at the time
died, so they have no reason to boot her out)

    Do you think they would be better or worse?
    Do you think they would have even gotten signed?
    Would the have risen to promenence (fame)?
    Would they have done that "airy fariey thing" on Spooky?
    Or just stayed punky, like they're doing now?

I don't think that they would sound too diffrent because Miki and
Merial almost exactly sound exactly alike. But I don't think they would
have ever made Spooky.

One more question, when did they throw Barham out?


                                  Opinions please,
                                            Brian

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:42:18 -0800
From: Vada Pinson (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Nico (almost 4AD)


>
> a friend has recently given me a tape by Nico titled 'the marble index'.
> i can't stop listening to it, it's an ultimate beauty.
> i can remember seeing Nico in Fellini's Dolce Vita and i went hunting in
> cd stores at once but i found only her 'The last concert' CD.


If you dig on Nico, check out the movie Nico Icon. I believe it is still
playing around. It came out about 2 months ago. it is not a flattering
look at her at all. It is very real and at times kind of funny. They have
some real good interviews and some live Velvet Underground footage. The
thing is that the sound during the VU stuff is the original record and
not them playing live. that was kind of disappointing. There is this one
part where the narrator is talking with Nico's mom and they put "I'll be
Your Mirror" on the record player and Nico's mom sings along. Awkward
moment.

Brett

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:32:44 -0500
From: IVSONGS@AOL.COM
Subject: FOR SALE: XMal, Germano, Underground Lovers, Wolfhounds, etc.


Hello listies!

These items are for sale. Please reply via this address and NOT THE LIST (I
WILL NOT REPLY TO REPLIES TO THE LIST).

THIS IS NOT AN AUCTION (prices are negotiable in some cases).
You won't know unless you ask will you? Offer trades if you like for one or
more. I like 4AD 7" vinyl quite a lot!
--------------------------------------------------------
1. Lisa Germano
ON THE WAY DOWN FROM MOON PALACE
Major Bill-MB0191
CD
$15
--------------------------------------------------------
2. Underground Lovers
LEAVES ME BLIND
Guernica-GU 2CD
CD
$10
--------------------------------------------------------
3. The Apartments
A LIFE FULL OF FAREWELLS
Hot/Restless-7 72955-2
CD
$10

Somewhere"
--------------------------------------------------------
4. The Wolfhounds (featuring Dave Callahan from Moonshake)
All Wolfhounds releases on the now defunct British label Midnight Records and
are out of print

THE ESSENTIAL WOLFHOUNDS
Midnight Music-CHIME 00.38 CD
CD
$20

ATTITUDE
Midnight Music-CHIME 01.07 CD
CD
$20

BRIGHT AND GUILTY
Midnight Music-CHIME 00.48 CD
CD
$20

BLOWN AWAY
Midnight Music-CHIME 00.57 CD
CD
$20
--------------------------------------------------------
5. The Glove (Robert Smith & Steve Severin)
BLUE SUNSHINE
Rough Trade-RUS-85-2
CD
$10
--------------------------------------------------------
6. Various (features Lisa Germano)
RED, HOT AND BOTHERED Vol.2
Limited Edition 10" Vinyl (out of print)
$25

--------------------------------------------------------
7. XMal Deutschland
TOCSIN (with extra tracks INCUBUS SUCCUBUS II, VITO)
4AD-CAD 407
CD
$10

otherwise condition is excellent.

And they're off...

IVSONGS

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:21:53 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Lush promo e.p.


>Did anyone else manage to get in on this courtesy of the 4AD Hotline????
>
>They were giving away 25 of the little devils, I left a message for one,=
 and
>a week later it is now in my hands...

I called the hotline last week and... zip! I haven=B4t recieved nothing!
When did you call?

Pepe


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:32:09 -0500
From: Where is my Mind? (friday@APOCALYPSE.ORG)
Subject: Re: HNIA videos


> are there more than lip, married, and cant go wrong?

these are the only 3 I know about.
married and wrong are made by the bros. quay
lip is more of an interview than a video (the video bits are them in
warren's basement)
major topic: food! of course.

reid

no, I'm not gonna part witht the videos,
but I am trying to figure out my quicktime compression :^>


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:05:27 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: French mag w/avam cd / ESP-Continent


>I emailed a friend of mine to pick up the french magazine with the red
>cardboard cover copy of avam.  Couldn't find it.  Could someone please
>send more details, or this some sneaky rumor (aaaahahhhh!).
>
>Alex

I'm afraid the The _Magic!_ version of AVAM CD is out of print.

AVAM was not offered with the mag, but precisely with a new subscription
to one year issues of Magic!

Magic! has an issue each 2 months and a week (no joke, it should be each 2
months, but there are always in late), and in each issue you can
find the trditionnal subscription coupon, and you receive a CD if you
subscribe. The CD is always different, don't know exactly when the AVAM was
offered, but it's quite a long time ago...
__________

> E.S.P. "Continent" At the time, they noted
>that only 1000 CDs were pressed.

According to Julien, from _Karina Square_, quite all the 1000 first pressing
has been sold quickly, so they ask for a new pressing... don't ask me
exactly how many, I haven't a clue.



                       ___
Laurent Lapierre      |-,-|
lapierre@micronet.fr  | - |


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:20:34 -0500
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: Yet another Lush opinion


I've just bought both Ladykillers CDs...Miki seems intent on emphasizing
their "Englishness"...like a female Blur? Is that accurate? But 14 B-sides on
two singles...wow! I sense a nice Japan-only B-sides CD (a la "Cookie") on
the way...

Oh yeah, I don't really care for the new Lush...but I love v23's sleeve
concept. Reminds me of the US fx cable network.


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:56:42 -0600
From: monochrome (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: strange situation


At 09:36 AM 3/2/96 -0500, Jason repeated:

>ok you're shaky about trading.  There's nothing 100% guaranteed on these
>matters.  However, it sounds like you made a deal with this person and then
>backed out of it, just to secure your end.  I would be pissed too if someone
>agreed on terms and then reneged.   I suppose their is an unwritten code on
>this list to abide by one's word in the buying, selling, trading bit, so
>seeing this reply by this person is not too surprising.  Were you expecting
>fluffy white clouds w/ :) :) :) ?

Oh yes ...fluffy white clouds, great... Anyway,  I did notify her that I
would send on Monday and I did.  You see, there was a mixup in the address,
as I found out later on, and now I am waiting for the mail to return so i
could resend ...again.  I made the mistake of posting it and I did just
before I got her other message, sorry dp.  Just for the record, I too would
be pissed off if someone pulled that crap on me too.  As a matter of fact,
it's happening to me right now with a mojave3 and a liquorice CD.  And that
has traumatized me to trusting anyone.  I feel really bed about this [for
her] and I will make sure that it never happens again.
THERE!!

love,
erik the coward.

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:57:37 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: XMal, Germano, Underground Lovers, Wolfhounds, etc.


<<<<

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:31:52 -0500
From: IvyRecords@AOL.COM
Subject: Faith & Disease, ivy records


For Immediate Release
Tuesday, March 2 1996

-Ivy Records will be putting out the third Faith & Disease CD ("Live Songs"
IR33-10), comprised mostly of all-new material, recorded live in Seattle and
on tour during the past year. Due out on April 24th.

-In July, Ivy Records will release an all-NW music compilation titled
"Genre-Fest" featuring locals Diamond Fist Werny, Faith & Disease, Kill
Switch...Klick, Maxine, Hominy, Rosa Luna, Memorium, Quinto Sol, Vertigo Bus,
Ninth Circle, and others.
 "Genre-Fest" will be a follow-up of sorts to the successful all-ages event
("Genre-Fest '95: 3 bands, 3 distinctive styles") held at the King
Performance Theater on 1-28-95, presented by Ivy Records and Ticketmaster.

-Seattle's Ninth Circle have signed a two-record deal with Ivy Records and
their debut Cd ("Ninth Circle" IR33-09) will be out on May 9th.


NW Recording News:

-Faith & Disease (with new members Jessie Soloman and Joshua Furman) are
recording new material for an EP at Hanszek Audio for release later this
year, also on Ivy Records.

David Goebel and Eric Cooley
Ivy Records
Po Box 2721 Seattle, Wa
98111-2721
(206) 726-4188


erikas@evo.org, last updated by Eyesore Automation on 3-2-1996